00:01Allah! Allah!
00:04Allah! Allah!
00:30This is a really nice experience.
00:32These are the other artboards I've done.
00:34I thought that would be easy to put in there.
00:38And no, you never go back when I was good.
00:40That's my real thought.
00:46When did you start?
00:48Approximately 2000.
00:50Initially as a project space.
00:52And I've developed only in the last two years
00:56to representing people.
01:00Do you have a curatorial background?
01:04None whatsoever.
01:06Which I planned on.
01:08None whatsoever.
01:10I've come from collecting myself.
01:14Specifically drawings, but not only.
01:18And my gallery is across all media.
01:22To some extent taking advantage of London,
01:26which is a very cosmopolitan hub.
01:28I mean, for example,
01:30almost none of my artists are English.
01:32But they've all come through London.
01:34And even Leipzig,
01:36she graduated from the college.
01:38And so there is a feature,
01:42the London aspect,
01:44which is very helpful.
01:46And now they live everywhere else,
01:48which is not very helpful.
01:50And I've also worked with artists quite long time.
01:54Most of them, with one exception,
01:56I've worked with since college.
01:58And so with Christiana,
02:00five years.
02:02And she opens in the Museum of Modern Art
02:04on Thursday in New York.
02:06And Daniel Gustav Kramer,
02:08who graduated two and a half years ago.
02:12He's just won the German Photography Award in the UK.
02:16Which is...
02:18That's exciting.
02:20And he's German clearly.
02:24And Harris Epaminonda,
02:26as a result of Berlin's preview last year,
02:30has been selected for the Kunstlerhaus-Bittanien Award
02:34in Berlin for a year,
02:36which will start next spring.
02:38And last year,
02:40I showed a video of hers,
02:42but approximately this size.
02:44And she's the youngest artist in the gallery,
02:47but she lives and works in Cyprus.
02:50And I'm showing the new collages,
02:52a video,
02:53and also...
02:54of artists' work.
02:59Do you have a lot of journalists?
03:01I do,
03:02but there are a lot of...
03:03I never select...
03:05I have no particular profile
03:09I'm interested in,
03:10or media.
03:11It's just about individual work.
03:13And there are a lot of strong German artists.
03:15So, probably,
03:17it's my biggest nationality grouping, isn't it?
03:19One Cypriot,
03:21one Japanese,
03:23the painter South African,
03:25but...
03:27an Austrian artist.
03:29He's English.
03:31Ron, on the floor.
03:33He's English.
03:34And...
03:36that's also Christian.
03:37He's Malaysian,
03:38Geoffrey Ty Lee,
03:39but he lives in English.
03:42The London art scene is very, very varied,
03:45which is a strength.
03:47It also makes it quite difficult to penetrate
03:50in any context,
03:52whether it's an artist or gallery,
03:54or possibly even a collector.
03:56But that actually makes it quite interesting,
03:58if you give it time.
03:59There's a model that happens in Germany
04:02that doesn't happen in England,
04:04which I've been talking at universities
04:06about for a long time,
04:08which is the Pottet-Senten Gallery,
04:10which is featured...
04:12There's one below here from Leipzig.
04:15And Christiane was part of the Pottet-Senten Gallery
04:17in Berlin for two years.
04:20And that's superb, really.
04:23You know, as a launching pad,
04:25and as a sort of curatorial project,
04:28but also just giving an opportunity,
04:31creating your own opportunity, really.
04:34And how do I find it otherwise?
04:36I mean, London...
04:37I mean, London's so big that, as a rule of thumb,
04:40you can do anything,
04:41and that's very helpful in contemporary art.
04:45But actually, finding a voice is one thing.
04:50Making your voice heard is an increasing challenge.
04:54Goodbye.
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