00:00In global politics, 2025 may be remembered as the year and old order ended.
00:07In part one of our Wu Say's year-end special,
00:10Professor Emeritus Dato' Wu Wengtai and Melissa Idris
00:14look back at the defining events of 2025.
00:17Here is a segment from the conversation about looking ahead to 2026
00:21and what can be expected from the US.
00:24For now, I want to ask you as we wrap this year,
00:28having said all of this,
00:30that there are serious problems that the world is facing,
00:33that it could get worse before it gets better.
00:36Are you optimistic or pessimistic heading into 2026?
00:43Where do you see the global order falling,
00:48the new global order falling into place?
00:51Can you look into your crystal ball for us today
00:55and tell us what you see happening next year?
00:59Well, I think in the global order,
01:02I think that what we will see is that
01:07we will see peace in Europe,
01:12albeit at the cost, loss of Ukrainian territory,
01:19and the emergence of a semi-cloth curtain in Europe.
01:30You will have countries that are definitely buffer states
01:36like Hungary, Ukraine,
01:39and the states between them,
01:44between these two countries.
01:45There will be peace in Europe,
01:48which is good.
01:49Now, we will see China
01:52being much more assertive
01:56within the first island chain.
01:59And I see it as also the beginning of its testing
02:03of moving into the second island chain.
02:06Largely because the Americans will be really worried
02:09if you go beyond the second island chain,
02:11because then you can fire a nuclear device
02:15from a submarine,
02:17which will reach the United States very quickly.
02:20Approximately.
02:20Yeah.
02:21So I think the breaching of the first island chain,
02:26we will see a testing of that.
02:30Wow.
02:30And what we will see is
02:34the Americans
02:36putting more restrictions
02:38on its trading partners,
02:41on things like
02:43not only can you not reship goods from China,
02:49the products you made,
02:51even though it's using local material,
02:54it better not be owned by a Chinese firm.
02:56Oh, dear.
02:57Wow.
02:57So this forces Malaysia
03:00into a very tricky situation.
03:03That means
03:04one of our traditional sources of growth
03:07is FDI
03:08and transfer of foreign technology through FDI.
03:13So if the Americans
03:14are putting restrictions like that,
03:17how are we going to push being neutral?
03:22Because being neutral
03:26is not a self-declared achievement.
03:31It has to be something that's accepted
03:33by both sides.
03:34Catch the full conversation
03:37on Nawani International
03:38and across our social media platforms.
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