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This week on Woo Says, we continue the mini-series on the Asian Financial Crisis of the late 1990s. The second episode explores how Malaysia navigated the crisis, the costs and benefits of its bold choices, and the lasting effects on the economy. Professor Emeritus Datuk Dr Woo Wing Thye joins Melisa Idris in this conversation.

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00:00This week on WUSAES, we look into the second part of the mini-series on the Asian financial crisis of the late 1990s.
00:08The second episode explores how Malaysia navigated the crisis, the costs and benefits of its bold choices, and the lasting effects on the economy.
00:17Here's a segment from a conversation with Professor Emeritus Datuk Dr Wu Wingtai.
00:22It is important to note that in this time, there was a lot of chaos outside Malaysia.
00:35And this chaos, in turn, undermined investors' confidence.
00:41And basically, they said, hold on, I'm not going to expand operation.
00:47In fact, I'm going to scale back and see what happens.
00:56Now, in the case of Malaysia, the banks basically stopped working because the banks were bankrupt.
01:06So they were not lending up money.
01:08So that was great difficulties.
01:09What usually happens in a democracy when an economic disaster happened,
01:18the usual procedure, the usual ritual that appears is whoever was in charge, take responsibility for it.
01:27He leaves office, and somebody takes over, that somebody may do exactly the same thing, but confidence has been revived.
01:40And when confidence is revived, business goes back to usual.
01:46You could say, in the case of Thailand, right after the exchange rate debacle in July 1997,
01:57Prime Minister Chavalit was replaced by Chungpa within four months.
02:05In the case of Korea, when the exchange rate plummeted in November 1997,
02:14in the presidential election, that was held a month later, the opposition won for the first time.
02:24Kim Dae-jung, the perpetual presidential candidate, he has ran three times before, and he's lost each time.
02:34He won.
02:35Now, basically, economic crisis delegitimized the incumbent, and there is a change in government,
02:48and that business goes back to usual.
02:52Now, this happened in Thailand after the middle of 1997.
03:00In Korea, in Korea, at the end of 1997.
03:05And in the case of Indonesia, when the rupiah had gone from 2,500 to 10,000,
03:16Sohato was re-elected to be president for the seventh term.
03:21So, there was immediate riots in the streets of Jakarta because the elections were seen as unfair.
03:32And what happened to the rupiah?
03:36The rupiah went from 10,000 rupiah to U.S. dollar to 15,000 rupiah dollars.
03:43So, Mahathir could see that the economic crisis is going to give rise to lots of economic unhappiness,
04:01and hence, potential political instability.
04:04And he realized that if people were to start running out of the ringgit even more,
04:16both the stock market in Malaysia will crash as well as the ringgit,
04:22because people will be withdrawing money from the stock market and sending it out to the country.
04:26When you withdraw money from the stock market, the stock market crash.
04:29When you send it out, the money, the ringgit crash.
04:32So, to prevent this crash, Mahathir imposed the capital controls on September 1st, 1998.
04:47And then, after imposing those controls,
04:51he went about restructuring and reorganizing the banks
04:56in order for them to start lending money normally again to revive the economy.
05:04Catch the full conversation on Awani International and across our social media platforms.
05:10So, when they saw the times.
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