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00:40Chevy Silverado, week 16 of the NFL.
00:43Coach, you're back in person.
00:44We missed you.
00:45We missed you.
00:46You fired up?
00:47I'm a Netflix guy right here.
00:49I'm a big superstar over here.
00:51Congratulations on that.
00:55You're a big superstar over here.
00:57So, like, Coach, you had a tough week last week.
01:00We have to just go ahead and address it.
01:01Right off the top, you went 4-11.
01:03Congratulations, Coach.
01:04Yeah, good job.
01:05No ball.
01:06No football.
01:07Thanks, yeah.
01:08Scholar.
01:09Mm-hmm.
01:10And then, Fred, you went 7-8.
01:11Danny, you went 8-7.
01:12Yep.
01:13Keep beating Fred.
01:14No problem.
01:15One game, dude.
01:16No problem.
01:17My toenail.
01:18What are you talking about?
01:19No problem.
01:20I mean, I'm up four games on you, so no problem.
01:22We are coming down the stretch.
01:23Yeah.
01:24Coming down the stretch.
01:25This is when you have to win.
01:26This is the guy with 97 losses talking.
01:2897, Coach.
01:30Yeah, I've been picking against the spread all season.
01:32You guys didn't do it for the first three weeks.
01:34All right.
01:35And this gets tricky because we get into the quit factor.
01:38We got a lot of games that maybe some teams are quitting, which, you know, never fun to watch.
01:43Yeah, and then you hear about teams like Washington who sits their quarterback down, and we're having a youth movement.
01:49Mm-hmm.
01:50We're going to evaluate our young players.
01:51Yeah.
01:52Okay.
01:53Let's pick that game like we know what's going to happen.
01:55Hell's bells.
01:56Hey, if common sense was coming, this would be a better world.
01:59Sometimes you just got to do what's right.
02:02Sometimes you got to do what's right.
02:04We got to protect him from himself.
02:05We got to protect him from this dark cloud over the organization right now.
02:09Start fresh, young man.
02:10Like, what happens if he goes out there in two weeks and get hurt again?
02:13Now y'all going to be looking at my coaches there, these stupidest guys ever to coach football.
02:17No.
02:18Protect him from himself.
02:19We ain't got but three more games.
02:20We ain't going nowhere.
02:21Plus, can I get that high draft pick?
02:23That's all we care about.
02:25Yeah, because you don't have a lot of them.
02:28Yeah, you don't.
02:30So you got to do what you got to do.
02:31Take the man out.
02:32Let Mariota take us to the promised land.
02:34But this is a tough part of the schedule where you get half the games just no one's even trying.
02:38It's tough.
02:39Yeah.
02:40Yeah.
02:41But we got some good games.
02:42I think it's the divisional game.
02:43The divisional team's going to play football no matter what because we got the Eagles twice
02:47and Dallas once.
02:48They not laying down.
02:49They're going to play some football.
02:50Yeah, let's jump right into it.
02:51Let's go to the storyline games of the week presented by the Chevy Silverado coach.
02:53We'll start with the Jags at the Broncos.
02:55The Broncos minus three.
02:56I know you've been very high on the Broncos this year.
02:58They get the win against the Packers last week.
03:00The Jags beat the Jets.
03:01What do you see happening in this?
03:02Well, if I'm going to bet on a game, I don't bet on all these games.
03:05You can't predict some of these teams that aren't playing their players.
03:08The Denver Broncos do one thing that no one else can do on a consistent basis and that's
03:13rush the pass.
03:14Yeah.
03:15Protect the passer and they win close games.
03:17They are a hard team to beat in Denver.
03:20I'm going to take the Denver Broncos to continue to spray a can of whoop-ass around the NFL.
03:27Can they continue to edge these games out at the end?
03:30They played a little better though recently.
03:32Yeah, but you're right.
03:33The ball distribution is improving.
03:35Bo Nix played a great game.
03:37I love Bo Nix.
03:38Four touchdowns, four different receivers.
03:40RJ Harvey is the key to this team.
03:43He's a young back.
03:44He fumbled early in that Green Bay game.
03:46He's got to give them a good steady diet of running the football in some key situations.
03:51Running out the clock, short yardage, goal line.
03:54That's my only concern is, is Harvey ready to go?
03:57But Sean Payton, Bo Nix, they're on the same page.
04:00Good ball distribution.
04:02Great defense.
04:03Yeah.
04:04They're going to win this game.
04:05They're a better team than Jacksonville.
04:06They'll prove it on Sunday.
04:07Only a three-point spread, coach.
04:08Only a three-point spread and the prince who was promised, Trevor Lawrence.
04:12Give that man his props as he said on that throne.
04:15Five touchdowns last week.
04:16Five touchdowns last week.
04:17Five touchdowns last week.
04:18He ran in one, too.
04:20So he had six touchdowns and nobody want to talk about it.
04:22I love the six touchdowns.
04:24It's a credit to Lawrence, but they played the Jets.
04:28The Jets fired their defensive coordinator because they didn't cover anybody.
04:32Okay?
04:33I mean, let's not go crazy here, Fred, about what they did against the Jets.
04:37But they've been doing it every week.
04:38This is the Masters.
04:40They're not playing a public course, okay?
04:43It's some local yokel golf course.
04:46They're playing Augusta this week.
04:48They're playing the Denver Broncos, man.
04:50Let's see what happens.
04:52We're going to take them in top golf to the woodshed,
04:55and we're going to teach them how to play golf.
04:57Three points.
04:58How you feel, kid?
04:59I think I'm going to take the Jaguars.
05:02I think this game is a field goal game.
05:03I think the Jaguars are the most underrated team in the NFL right now.
05:07And what they've been doing since the bye week, they have been shredding,
05:10shredding their opponents.
05:12Some of them, obviously, not like.
05:14You can't choose a skeptic.
05:15You can't play it.
05:16But let's talk about the fact that, like, three, four weeks ago,
05:18when the Los Angeles Chargers, who are now beating everyone,
05:22and alive for the one seed, the Jaguars pasted that team.
05:26That was kind of the start of it, them turning it around.
05:28They can run the football.
05:30Etienne's been electric.
05:31Trevor Lawrence is playing good football.
05:33Brian Thomas finally showing his face, waving his hand in credit.
05:37Jacobi Myers was a great record.
05:39Incredible.
05:40They said it.
05:41They needed a guy who consistently catches the ball,
05:43and that's what he's been doing.
05:44You know what you love about this game, though, is Jacksonville.
05:47You listen to these Jaguars.
05:49We get no respect.
05:50Nobody respects you.
05:51Fucking Gruden, he don't respect you.
05:53You don't.
05:54But they feel like, okay, nobody respects.
05:57Here's your chance.
05:58Go to Denver and beat their butt.
06:00You'll earn a lot of respect by beating the Broncos.
06:03I don't think it's going to happen.
06:04Are you worried about that warm-weather team going into Denver?
06:07It could rain first quarter, snow the second quarter.
06:09I know.
06:10Listen, it's in Denver.
06:11I have been there playing a game.
06:13Are you worried about the cold-weather, hot-weather team?
06:15The altitude and everything.
06:16I mean, Denver's been really good.
06:17I think they have 11 games in a row, home-winning streak.
06:21Yeah.
06:22So, they've been rolling at home.
06:23It's a good reason to pick Jacksonville, isn't it?
06:26Well, we're going to get...
06:27What kind of fools are you guys?
06:28Coach, you've got to add the spread in here.
06:30That's a fair point.
06:31You've got to add the spread in here.
06:32Two points.
06:33I'm going with Jacksonville.
06:34Yeah, all right.
06:35Let's go.
06:36Let's stay strong.
06:37Dan thought about changing his pick right there.
06:38I thought about it hard.
06:39You saw it on my face.
06:40Yes.
06:41But I'm staying with Jacksonville.
06:42Okay.
06:43All right, Jerry.
06:44The Steelers at the Lions.
06:45I'm going to let you start with this one.
06:46Yeah.
06:47Aaron Rodgers looks good.
06:48I'll say it.
06:49He looks good the last couple games.
06:50They're doing a better job of involving more wide receivers.
06:53Adam Thielen.
06:54We've got MVS.
06:55We've got some veterans now.
06:56Getting DK the ball more.
06:58Kenneth Gainwell is the star of this offense, though, right now, which I didn't see coming.
07:02He's running the ball great, catching passes out of the backfield.
07:06Jalen Warren kind of took a backseat.
07:08The only thing I'm worried about this game is the injuries.
07:11Defense is banged up.
07:12I will say this, though.
07:13I think everybody's going to think Lions off a loss.
07:16This is just what Dan Campbell does.
07:18He's going to shred this defense.
07:20Yes.
07:21I think it's going to be a very close game.
07:22I think the Steelers could pull this off, though.
07:24I really do.
07:25And, Dan, that's what I was going to ask you.
07:26With Dan Campbell coming off the loss to the Rams, does that concern you for the Steelers?
07:31Yeah, definitely.
07:32The Lions started the season three and one.
07:34Then they lost their – or, sorry, then the one went to four and one.
07:37Since that point, they've gone win-loss, win-loss every single week.
07:41Yes.
07:42Their season's on the line.
07:43Like, they have to win this game.
07:45This is a playoff game.
07:46And Mike Tomlin, if you know Mike Tomlin, the last two weeks the heat has gotten a little bit –
07:54the temperature's gone down a little bit in Pittsburgh.
07:56Yeah.
07:57This is where they get blown out.
07:59Oh, no, Jerry.
08:00Yes, Jerry.
08:01I mean, this is – okay, I'll say this.
08:04They get blown out here.
08:05They're going to lose next week to the Browns, and then it's week 18 for everything.
08:09That's just how Mike Tomlin's season goes.
08:11Okay.
08:12Okay.
08:13Yeah, the truth is the Steelers – we got a dirty old man alerted quarterback.
08:18They can't – they move the ball, but they eradicate best.
08:22A Steeler identity is usually defense.
08:24They've played none of it for months.
08:26All right.
08:27And you're going to tell me they're going to go into Detroit and they have to win a game
08:31with the fighting Dan Campbells of Detroit?
08:33No.
08:34Have you seen them run the ball in Detroit?
08:37Yeah.
08:38Have you seen them push the ball down the field with Williams and the Ross St. Brown?
08:42Yeah.
08:43Have you watched this team on turf?
08:44Their offense has been incredible.
08:45Yeah.
08:46Jared Goff.
08:47All right.
08:48Jared Goff is the best quarterback in this game.
08:52Yeah.
08:53It's not even close.
08:54The best offensive line is in Detroit.
08:56Motown.
08:57I'm going Motown all the way, baby.
08:59I am as well.
09:00Coach?
09:01Last night, somebody asked me, where are you going, Gruden?
09:03I said, I'm going to Chicago.
09:04I got a ticket to listen to Fred Smith.
09:07I love listening to Smith.
09:10I mean, the stuff you say and the way you say it, it motivates me.
09:14You know, the Lions are not very good on defense.
09:17No.
09:18Since Kirby Joseph and Brian Branch have gone.
09:20Brian Branch.
09:21They blow a lot of defenses last week against whoever they played.
09:25I mean, they played the Rams.
09:26The Rams.
09:27My God.
09:28I mean, 180 yards for the Rams in the third quarter.
09:31They play a lot of man-to-man, Fred.
09:33I wish they'd play some zone coverage.
09:35They're going to be forced to play some, Coach.
09:37Look, this is the battle of the California Golden Bears.
09:40This is Jared Goff and Aaron Rodgers.
09:43Yeah.
09:44This is like a father-son matchup.
09:46It's going to be a hell of a game.
09:47It's going to be a high-scoring game.
09:48Both defenses are struggling.
09:50But honest to God, when you watch Amon Ross St. Brown last week,
09:53who's going to cover that guy?
09:54Nobody.
09:55He had 12 catches, 160 yards.
09:56He was incredible.
09:57Jameson Williams.
09:58You got Jameer Gibbs.
09:59That's too much for the Steeler defense.
10:01I don't think her biggest plan.
10:03T.J. Watt is out of the game.
10:05That's a problem in the dome where the conditions are perfect.
10:08Lions are going to win and cover.
10:10But Pittsburgh, you got to give them credit.
10:12They were impressive on Monday night.
10:14You want to talk about self-inflicted wound?
10:16T.J. Watt was taken down by a trainer in the trainer room,
10:20stabbed in the lung by a trainer in Pittsburgh.
10:23And when's he going to be back, Jerry?
10:24T.J.
10:25Never.
10:26So I got some text messages that have been leaked.
10:28Allegedly, they were from somebody else saying he could be done for the year.
10:32No.
10:33I don't believe it.
10:34I don't believe it.
10:35I can't believe it.
10:36Allegedly.
10:37He's not.
10:38All right.
10:39Well, I'm sorry for that.
10:40But you can impress coach with your coach.
10:41Yeah.
10:42All right.
10:43Here we go.
10:44This is going to be big.
10:45I love this play.
10:46This is going to be big.
10:47I don't like it.
10:48I love it.
10:49Okay.
10:50I really do.
10:51Cover two.
10:52Whatever you want.
10:53We'll beat anything in this play.
10:54Whatever you want.
10:55Man beater.
10:56Yeah.
10:57Listen.
10:58We want this safety.
10:59We want outside release, John, with this wide receiver over here.
11:02We want this safety moving over here.
11:04Just like a goal ball.
11:05Okay.
11:06Probably not going to go to this guy.
11:07But if he's there, we'll get it.
11:08If the safety don't come, we got one on one.
11:11Here's where it gets interesting.
11:12Okay.
11:13We got the tight end here crossing and the wide receiver crossing.
11:17These linebackers, they ain't going to know what to do.
11:19Say they take this way.
11:20They take that way.
11:21Middle of the field, wide open for this wide receiver.
11:24If nothing's there, this is going to be here.
11:26I guarantee it.
11:27I can guarantee it's going to be here.
11:28If it's not there, we got the running back on a wheel route.
11:31End zone.
11:32Mesh.
11:33Is this the great spider wide banana?
11:35What is this?
11:36No, no, no.
11:37Wide banana.
11:38What is this?
11:39This is a great play.
11:41Great play, Jerry.
11:42Great play.
11:43You know why I like it.
11:44You get everyone in conflict going across the field.
11:45Yeah.
11:46They don't know what's going on.
11:47If it's man to man, you got all kind of action going, man.
11:49You got the mesh cross.
11:50Oh, yeah.
11:51You got the swing out of the backfield.
11:52What I like about it is if it's a zone coverage, you tell those crossers to sit down no sooner
11:58than the backside tackle, and you have a nice middle triangle at route distribution.
12:04That's a 10.
12:05This is the best play you've ever done.
12:07I tell you what.
12:08Okay, so can I tell you where this came from?
12:10Oh.
12:11What?
12:12No, no.
12:13Don't give it to us, Fish.
12:14We, so I play video games.
12:16Coach Duggs, I do a whole video game series.
12:18We've been playing, trying to win a national title.
12:20I only have two plays, and this is one of them.
12:23And Jerry's my defensive coordinator, so he watched me run this play 7,000 times.
12:27It's a great play.
12:28It's a great play.
12:29It's a great play.
12:30You got to get it where you get it from.
12:31I only got two plays.
12:32That kind of sends Jerry's credibility to hell, though.
12:35Yeah.
12:36No.
12:37He's out of the staff.
12:38I know.
12:39He's out of the staff.
12:40That's what y'all do as coaches.
12:41Yeah, right.
12:42Y'all see what's about Coach Duggs, and y'all come back and do it.
12:44Yeah, I used to go in there to my meetings with Tim Brown and Jerry Rice and say,
12:48hey, guys, I got a play off a video game.
12:51Let's put that in.
12:52They trust it.
12:53They trust it.
12:54Yep.
12:55They trust it.
12:56It's the only play I can run.
12:57I like it.
12:58I love it.
12:59Yeah.
13:00No, it's credit to the whole staff.
13:01We're staff.
13:02We're staff.
13:03Yeah, we're staff.
13:04We're a team.
13:05Jerry's my defensive coordinator.
13:06Yep.
13:07Back to back tries to win a natty.
13:10He forgot about Jeremiah Smith.
13:11Yeah.
13:12Jeremiah Smith put 200 yards on us.
13:14200 yards and three touchdowns and a quarter and a half on our head.
13:17You get fired for that, Jerry.
13:18Are you the coordinator for the writers?
13:20He's a defensive coordinator, yeah.
13:22I'm going to have to tighten that one up.
13:23Yeah, I got to tighten that one up.
13:24Tighten that one up.
13:25Let's go to the game of the week presented by the Chevy Silverado.
13:27Sunday Night Football, the Patriots at the Ravens, coach.
13:30The Patriots blow the lead last week against the Bills.
13:32Big storyline.
13:33The Ravens win 24-0 against the Bengals.
13:35Where do you stand with the Patriots right now?
13:37You know, I had a concern about the Patriots because they really hadn't beaten a quality team
13:43other than Buffalo early in the year.
13:45Early in the year.
13:46Buffalo turned the ball over three times in that game.
13:48The second half was a big concern.
13:50They couldn't stop Buffalo.
13:51I think Buffalo had 300 yards in the second half.
13:53And New England got shut down.
13:56More than Travion's 65-yard reverse field play.
13:59They didn't do much.
14:00Baltimore is desperate.
14:02They know the Steelers are at Detroit.
14:04Yeah.
14:05I'm just wondering, where is Lamar in all the magic plays, Fred?
14:09Yeah.
14:10We keep waiting.
14:11We haven't felt.
14:12I haven't felt that.
14:13I got a feeling he ain't 100% healthy.
14:14No.
14:15He won't say a word about it.
14:16He's best practice this week.
14:17He's ill.
14:18Yeah.
14:19But you got Zay Flowers.
14:20You got Likely healthy.
14:21We got Mark Andrews.
14:22We got the beast.
14:23Yeah.
14:24Everybody healthy on the O-line.
14:26I just think this is the time where the offense takes off.
14:30They got to win a game, a shootout.
14:32And they're going to have to do it against New England.
14:34Because New England's going to score against Baltimore's defense.
14:36Yeah.
14:37No, they are.
14:38But I'm going to go with the Ravens.
14:39They're taking Baltimore at home and a must win.
14:42And it's going to be a tight game.
14:43I know that.
14:44Fred, what do you think?
14:46Because we play Saturday this week, I'm going to jump in my Chevy Silverado.
14:52Oh.
14:53And I'm going to head on up to Baltimore, get me a cup of crab cakes along the way.
14:57Ooh.
14:58As I sit down and watch Lamar, Lamar, Lamar handle this New England team.
15:02I just think, like Coach said, the Ravens back against the wall.
15:06All right?
15:07That's when you're going to get the best out of King Henry.
15:08That's when you're going to get the best out of Zay Flowers.
15:10And that's when Lamar is going to show you, it's still me.
15:13All right?
15:14I'm still him.
15:15All right?
15:16Even if I can't run the best.
15:17He's one of the best passers in NFL history.
15:19Nobody ever want to talk about that.
15:20I'm going with the Baltimore Ravens.
15:22I just feel like New England hasn't beat a team that we know going to the playoffs right now.
15:29Besides Buffalo, they ain't beat a team that we know going to the playoffs right now.
15:32And I love me some Drake May.
15:34Mm-mm.
15:35Mm-mm-mm.
15:36God's gift to quarterbacks.
15:37But I got to say, this is Lamar Knight right here.
15:39Well, New England's secondary is beat up.
15:41Carlton Davis is hurt.
15:42Yeah.
15:43Marcus Jones is hurt.
15:44Spillane, their leading tackler, his foot is in a boot.
15:48Yeah.
15:49I don't think Milton Williams is going to play.
15:50No, Milton Williams is out for the rest.
15:51They got a lot of guys out.
15:52Yeah.
15:53This is not the Patriot defense that we saw three, four weeks ago.
15:56What do you think?
15:58I think the Ravens are not very good.
16:01I really do.
16:02I've watched all their games, and you said it.
16:05Lamar has something about that offense has just been off.
16:09Like, even the Bengals game, the final score is 24-0, but you had to pick six.
16:14The Ravens really didn't get going.
16:17Like, you know, Derrick Henry had some nice runs, but Lamar only threw the ball, what, 12 times?
16:22Like, they ran 40 plays.
16:24They just, everything's been weird for this offense.
16:27I agree.
16:28Everything's been hard.
16:29Everything's been hard.
16:30Yeah, I know.
16:31That's what I'm saying.
16:32Santa Claus is going to come down.
16:35And I think we're overthinking.
16:36Come on, Lamar.
16:37I think we're overthinking this game.
16:38I think the Patriots are just better.
16:40I do.
16:41All of those people hurt.
16:42Yeah.
16:43I think they're better.
16:44I think they're better.
16:45And I think that was, you know, I don't know if they're a Super Bowl caliber team,
16:48but I think they are better.
16:50And they're coming off a loss.
16:52So, yeah, I'm going to take the plus three.
16:54So, you just don't think Lamar is going to turn into Lamar this year?
16:57I've been waiting, waiting, waiting.
16:59It just doesn't.
17:00Something feels off with this offense.
17:02And there's not a lot of options.
17:03And it's just the red zone hasn't been good.
17:05I don't know what it is.
17:06It's just hard to watch.
17:07So, I'm going to go with the thing that has looked a lot better through the course of
17:11the year.
17:12And obviously, the schedule matters.
17:13And the Patriots have played a soft schedule, but I think they're a better team.
17:16I think the Ravens get back to what make them great this night.
17:20Defense and running?
17:21Running the damn ball.
17:23Yeah.
17:24Saying, you know what?
17:25We're going to run the ball.
17:26You know we're going to run the ball.
17:27You've got to stop it.
17:28No, you might be right.
17:29Because what James Cook did to the Patriots defense was shocking.
17:30That's what I'm telling you.
17:31You're right.
17:32And we're going to bring in a king this week.
17:33All right?
17:34This is what I'm saying is a load.
17:36It's going to be cold out there.
17:37It's going to be probably rainy, misty out there.
17:40Give it to the king.
17:41But it's the scrambling that we've got to have from Lamar.
17:43It's like Josh Allen.
17:44Yeah.
17:45I mean, there's nothing there.
17:46You covered us.
17:47Magic.
17:48He takes off and makes a play.
17:49That's what Lamar, we need that back.
17:51We need that back, Lamar.
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18:16Dan, the Packers at the Bears.
18:19The Bears 10 and 4.
18:21What a game.
18:22What a game.
18:23What a game.
18:24Do they get revenge?
18:25Yes.
18:26It's just because Micah Parsons is not there.
18:28I actually think, I have a hot take.
18:29I think Micah Parsons being out for this game is actually worse for the Bears.
18:33Because I think Micah Parsons, the Bears are going to try to run the ball.
18:36And Micah Parsons is, you know, replacement level run defense.
18:39Yeah.
18:40So they might be able to, and you also have a one game situation where you can switch up what your defense looks like.
18:47You know, what coverage you're playing to try to maybe throw something different at them without Micah out there.
18:52I think it's obviously a terrible injury long term for the Packers.
18:56Yeah.
18:57But in a one game setting, the Bears don't really know what the Packers are going to do to try to attack Caleb Williams, right?
19:02Like you do have a little bit of an element of surprise with Micah Parsons out.
19:06You're going to send some blitzes.
19:07I don't know.
19:08I think the Bears are a better team though.
19:10I really do.
19:11I think they're the better team and I think they're going to win this game.
19:13Coach, what do you think?
19:15You know what?
19:16Green Bay's got some injuries.
19:17Forget about Micah Parsons.
19:18You know, Zach Tom, the right tackle comes out of that game.
19:21And his backup, Kennard, got hurt.
19:23Yeah.
19:24I don't know who the right tackle is going to be.
19:26Jacobs is beat up.
19:27Their safety, Evan Williams, who's a hell of a player, might not play in this game.
19:31But I like what you just said there.
19:33The Bears just might be a lot better than people think.
19:36Their offensive line will rock your ass.
19:39I'm telling you.
19:40They will kick your ass.
19:41Did you see the trap they ran last week?
19:43God dang.
19:44They've done a hell of a job running the ball with two different backs.
19:48Now, the Bears might not have a Dunzee and a kid from Missouri.
19:52I don't think he's going to play.
19:53That is a problem.
19:54That's a problem.
19:55Yeah.
19:56I'm going to tell you this.
19:57The Packers-Bears.
19:59The Packers own this series.
20:01And until the Bears answer the bell and beat the Packers in a real meaningful game,
20:07I'm going to go with Green Bay.
20:08I'm going to go with Love.
20:09Coming into Chicago.
20:11I know it pisses everybody off.
20:12Yeah.
20:13By the way, you're right.
20:14You know, Roma Dunzee, Luther Burden, that's a problem because those guys have been-
20:19Luther Burden especially has been awesome.
20:20Luther Burden has been awesome the last couple of weeks.
20:22But you know who else has been incredible the last couple of weeks?
20:24That I think people, you know, kind of walked away from the debate.
20:27They were trying to take a victory lap five weeks into the season.
20:30Colson Loveland has been awesome.
20:32He's been a difference maker catching the ball out of the tight end position.
20:35And you can see Ben Johnson is starting to get that mold.
20:39You know, when you think about the Lions under Ben Johnson,
20:42obviously everyone thinks about the points and the passing.
20:44But it's always been about running the football and tight ends on the field
20:48and making mismatches that way.
20:50And it feels like he's getting to exactly where he wants to be with this team.
20:53But Christian Watson's going to play.
20:55Yeah, I know.
20:56And Jaden Reed is back.
20:57He's their leading receiver for two years.
20:59We know what the situation is with the Bears defense.
21:01If they can take the ball away, they're going to have a good day.
21:04If they can't, they're going to get exposed.
21:06They are the disparity between the fact that they are the number one team in takeaways
21:10and they're about 24th in points given up.
21:12Yeah.
21:13That tells you everything you need to know.
21:14You got to either take the ball away or you're going to get caught.
21:16And as an ex-corner, I can tell you, it ain't no magic way to take the ball away.
21:20It feels like it this year.
21:22No, no.
21:23We wait on quarterbacks to make mistakes and we capitalize on those mistakes.
21:26All right.
21:27The thing about it is Brother Love might not make those mistakes.
21:30The weather will be in their favor.
21:31They coming down from Green Bay.
21:33And you say it, Coach DeLovlin, I'm going to one-up you with a Quay Walker.
21:36All right.
21:37He can get it done one-on-one.
21:38Yeah.
21:39All right.
21:40At the end of the day, may the best team that run the ball win.
21:42Hater.
21:43All right.
21:44No, no.
21:45I'm not a hater.
21:46Hater.
21:47I've been a Bears hater this year.
21:48Hater.
21:49Listen.
21:50I do not hate Bears.
21:51You're a hater.
21:52I used to come to Chicago in the summertime as a child all the time.
21:55Hater.
21:56And be like, Bears, Bears, Bears.
21:57Hater.
21:58And don't forget, Walter Payton, one of the best Bears of all time is a Mississippi guy.
22:02I love the fact that Walter Sweetman's fighting to run the ball.
22:05Okay, now go pick up the Packers, you hater.
22:07The Green Bay Packers is who I'm picking on this one.
22:11Come on.
22:12Vegas, they don't build those casinos because we win.
22:15They build them because we lose.
22:17And that tells me with this one point.
22:18It's a massive game.
22:19I know it.
22:20And it's needed.
22:21But I'm telling you, I'm going with the team that been there, done that.
22:24I'm not going with the new school.
22:26If the Bears lose this game, it's going to get nerve-wracking here.
22:30Because then you've got to go to San Francisco and then you have the Lions week 18.
22:34Yes.
22:35And that could be a win and get in.
22:36And it's a chance that y'all could not make the playoff.
22:38It's crazy the swings that we went.
22:39Crazy.
22:40What's crazy is the Chicago Bears are in line to win the North.
22:44Yes.
22:45The Bears possibly be the number one seed.
22:48Yeah.
22:49They lost 10 straight games last year.
22:50I know.
22:51We're talking about the Jaguars.
22:52Yeah.
22:53The Chicago Bears.
22:54The Bears.
22:55Coaching matters.
22:56This is the most exciting time of year because you want respect, Dan.
22:59Yep.
23:00You want to win the North.
23:01You go beat the Green Bay Packers on Christmas.
23:04It's Christmas.
23:05Yeah, it is.
23:06It's the most exciting time of my life.
23:08Go, go, go.
23:09I love to see that.
23:10Coaching matters.
23:11What you said, coaching matters.
23:12Liam Cohen and Ben Johnson, what they've done.
23:14Transformed organizations.
23:15Yes, they have, but they are the new kids on the clock.
23:17Okay.
23:18You're a hater.
23:19You're a hater.
23:20Hey, I played cornerback.
23:21I've been hating my whole life.
23:22You are.
23:23You're a hater.
23:24You got a touchdown.
23:25Hey, that's what I do.
23:26All right, Coach, your playbook picked the Bucs at the Panthers.
23:29How are you feeling about your Bucs?
23:31I'm not feeling good about the Bucs right now.
23:33It's been a tough couple weeks, losing two games to division opponents in a five-day period.
23:39You know, both these teams have injuries.
23:41Carolina might not have their left tackle.
23:44They might not have McMillan, their big-time receiver.
23:47Carolina loses at New Orleans last week.
23:50Is division a guy in coaching?
23:51This division is just kind of irritating me.
23:54Both teams are seven and seven.
23:56Oh, sure.
23:57I will never bet against Mayfield in a big game.
24:00Baker, Mayfield, Todd Bowles, I'm telling you, he has been on it this week.
24:04Yeah.
24:05He was not happy after that loss to the Falcons.
24:07I think he's got his team's attention.
24:09Yeah.
24:10I think they had a great week of practice.
24:12We're going to outscore Carolina.
24:13We're going to go eight and seven.
24:15The Buccaneers are going to catch fire this week.
24:18Dan, what do you think?
24:19Such a homer.
24:20I know.
24:21Not a homer.
24:22Look at her.
24:23Yeah.
24:24She a homer, too.
24:25You can't talk.
24:26You can't talk to a homer.
24:27You can't talk to a homer.
24:28You can't talk to a homer.
24:29Well, it's Mike Evans.
24:30It's my Aggie.
24:31I'm going to take the Bucs.
24:35I do not like them.
24:36They're just not a good team.
24:38Both these teams are just not really impressive.
24:40They really aren't.
24:42Do you know what Todd Bowles?
24:44What?
24:45It's the truth.
24:46I would have said that, though, if the Bears were bad.
24:49Listen, I understand.
24:51If the Bears had four wins, I would have said both these teams aren't impressive.
24:54But you can't say that Baker and the coaching staff at Tampa and that defense haven't proved
24:59to you year in and year out.
25:00If we're in the hunt, we got a chance.
25:02Have they?
25:03Listen, I'm a Baker guy.
25:05So that part, he's playing injured.
25:08Let me ask you a question.
25:09Ready?
25:10A little trivia question.
25:11I got you.
25:12Listen, you can cover your ears if you have friends that you don't want to hit me.
25:18Hit me.
25:19Todd Bowles has won the NFC South three straight years.
25:22Three straight years.
25:23All three years he's been there.
25:24Yeah.
25:25What is his overall win-loss record?
25:27I think he right at 600, right?
25:29He's 27 and 24.
25:31They've won the division at 8 and 9, 9 and 8, and 10 and 7.
25:34Are they good or do they play in a bad division?
25:36You get into the tournament.
25:38I watched Brady play in a bad division for two decades.
25:40But they've lost two out of three of them.
25:42Two out of three of them, they've been bouncing the first round.
25:44They won one playoff game against the Eagles team that was absolutely falling apart two years ago.
25:50And that in our head is like, oh, the Bucs are way better.
25:53Like, they're good.
25:54I don't know.
25:55I'm taking the Bucs, but they have not given me anything to trust.
25:59If Baker was healthy, I would think this team is dangerous.
26:02He's clearly not been.
26:03That's been a problem.
26:04Did you just change my mind and still pick the damn Bucs?
26:07Yeah, I did.
26:08That's the problem.
26:09I'm not impressed with either of these teams.
26:10I hate the NFC South.
26:11And it's because if the Bears don't make the playoffs at 11 and 6, I'll fucking riot.
26:15I'm telling you this now.
26:16There it is.
26:17He just literally sat here and talked me into changing my mind from the Bucs and then said,
26:22you know what?
26:23By the way, I'm going with those Bucs.
26:26I'm like, what the hell is wrong with you?
26:28I don't know.
26:29Steven Che is always, he'll find a way to win this stupid division and then he'll walk
26:33around being like, Division Che.
26:34Chest out.
26:35Yeah.
26:37On that note, I can say this now, because I played against his daddy.
26:42Horn is playing hell of a corner right now.
26:45All right.
26:46Now, your guy Evans, he's limping back into the fold right now.
26:49All right.
26:50Bryce Young, he's been up and down this year, but he showed us what made him the number one
26:55pick.
26:56He's made plays in certain situations.
26:58Chuba Hubbard, Rico Dowdle, they can run that damn ball.
27:04And if you can run the ball in this league, you got a chance to dance every week.
27:09I am going with the Panthers.
27:11Okay.
27:12You changed my damn mind.
27:13If you came to my house in August and said, Gruden, it's going to come down to Carolina,
27:21Tampa two times in the last three weeks to win the South.
27:25I would say, give it to me tonight.
27:27Yeah.
27:28We're going to win this game.
27:29The Buccaneers have too many good players.
27:31That's the problem.
27:32We've had some injuries.
27:33That's the problem.
27:34Worse.
27:35And get a kid tackle.
27:36Barton at center.
27:37Yeah.
27:38Bucky Irving's going to come alive.
27:39You'll see.
27:40You will see.
27:41Evans and Godwin are just getting healthy, Fred.
27:44What train did you guys come in here on?
27:46I'm just saying.
27:47The Buccaneers, man.
27:48They got to get their sea legs under them, coach.
27:50You just don't pop back up in this league and be instant grits.
27:53Me and Casey are taking the fuck.
27:55Yes, we are.
27:5624.
27:57Isn't that a crazy stack?
27:58No, it is, but it's a stack that'll keep you higher.
28:00He's got the best job in the world.
28:01Yeah, thank you.
28:02It'll keep you higher.
28:03You go 500, you win the division.
28:04Then you got to be around.
28:05You got to be behind all them old people in traffic in Tampa, too.
28:08Yeah.
28:09It'll take you like two hours to get somewhere.
28:10And you got to worry about Gruden sitting up in the owner's suite.
28:13Yeah, just smiling down with his smirk on his face.
28:16He's always hovering.
28:18Just there.
28:19Yeah, so maybe it's not.
28:20My flight leaves everybody.
28:21All right, you got it.
28:25But remember, Dan still took the Bucs.
28:27I did.
28:28He did.
28:29He's a good player.
28:30That's what I cannot believe.
28:32The Bucs have won three straight divisions.
28:34Yeah, they have, Dan.
28:36They sure have.
28:37It'll be four.
28:38All right, Fred, your playbook pick, Monday Night Football,
28:40the 49ers at the Colts.
28:42First of all, I want to apologize to old man Rivers.
28:46Yes.
28:47He came out there and they're going to make a movie about it.
28:50They got to make a movie about it.
28:51They got to make a movie about it.
28:52He's a joy to watch.
28:53He's a joy to watch.
28:54He's 260 pounds of a round man.
28:57He, I call him AKA Rumpelstipskin.
28:59I don't know why he's out there, but I'm pulling for him,
29:02because I love to pull for the old school, because it's so cool.
29:05But San Francisco 49ers.
29:07Brock Purdy.
29:09Brock Purdy.
29:10I'm going to tell you what he is.
29:11He's that minivan that gets your family everywhere you need them to go.
29:15You don't appreciate it.
29:16Don't wash it.
29:17But when the motor go out, you find out that, you know what,
29:20I really needed that minivan and it treated me well.
29:22Nobody loves Brock Purdy.
29:24Why, Coach?
29:25Because he's not flashy.
29:26He's playing well.
29:27Right.
29:28Why do nobody ever talk about Brock Purdy as elite?
29:31He's been to a Super Bowl.
29:33He's continuously in the playoffs.
29:35Why?
29:36Why?
29:37You gave him $50 million.
29:38Who are you saying doesn't like him?
29:40Jerry and the rest of the NFL fans?
29:43Yeah.
29:44Jerry, look at Jerry.
29:45He's miserable.
29:46He's a miserable person.
29:47But nobody, the 49ers, you know with Shanahan,
29:51they're going to always have an offensive continuity.
29:53They're going to be able to do that.
29:54They're going to be able to play defense.
29:56I think they're going to win this game by 10, actually.
29:59I don't think it's even going to be close.
30:01They got one true weapon over there right now in the coast,
30:04and that's Jonathan Taylor.
30:05And if you're going to ride his back against this front in San Francisco,
30:09you have lost your damn mind.
30:11I'm going with the San Francisco 49ers in this one.
30:13Dan, what do you think?
30:14I love seeing Phil Rivers back out there.
30:16It was a joy to watch.
30:17He's the absolute best, but I'm taking the Niners.
30:20How does Phil Rivers' body feel now from the game?
30:23Oh, he's got to be.
30:24Seahawks didn't really go after him because they're like,
30:26I don't know if they, out of respect, they're like,
30:28hey, we're not going to hurt you.
30:29We're just not going to hurt you.
30:30It's just like me and you going to an old home and jumping on too old people.
30:34They're just not good.
30:35We can't do that.
30:36We can't do that.
30:37I'll tell you though, when you go to Indianapolis and play,
30:39you guys know this, it's a tough place to get a win.
30:41Yeah.
30:42They got a good home field advantage there.
30:44Don't ask me why, but they're going to be revved up.
30:47The one thing Phillip Rivers brings to a team is you have experienced this in the locker room.
30:53There's certain guys that walk in that make you play harder.
30:56The defensive players, what they did last week in Seattle was unbelievable.
31:00Yeah.
31:01They had the Seahawks on the brink.
31:02Yeah.
31:03He took them down there.
31:04They kicked a field goal with 40 seconds left.
31:06They're going to win this game.
31:07It would have been the greatest victory.
31:09About that.
31:10In the regular season.
31:11Yeah.
31:12In the regular season.
31:13Phillip Rivers did everything that was awesome.
31:14Keep them in the game.
31:15I'm telling you, without Sauce Gardner, without DeForest Buckner,
31:18their defensive coordinator revved up some blitzes.
31:21Yeah.
31:22They got after Seattle's ass, man.
31:24Yeah.
31:25The Colts are going to play hard.
31:26They're a tough out at home.
31:28I'm going to take the Colts to not win the game, but it's going to be a very similar game.
31:34I don't think the 49ers do much on defense.
31:36They have no pass rush.
31:38Yeah.
31:39They're 32nd in the league in sacks.
31:40So Phillip Rivers is going to have a chance to run some of these Shane Steichen flood rounds.
31:45If you ever going to blitz, this is the week, Coach.
31:47Let me tell you about Rivers, man.
31:48Rivers, with protection, he can dial them up, man.
31:52And I'm telling you, this is going to be a tight game.
31:5549ers are going to win, but it's going to be close.
31:58Coach, you know for a fact, as we watched Phil Rivers shock put those balls out there,
32:03one of those balls coming down.
32:05Like, listen to me.
32:06Coach, you know damn well he's feeling like a 90-year-old man right now.
32:11I said, can he play?
32:12I was like, yes.
32:13I was like, yes.
32:14I said, how is he going to feel the next day, and the next day, and the next day?
32:18You got to do this grind again, and again, and again.
32:20A grind that you ain't been a part of.
32:22This was a high school coach.
32:25I watched this team cheer him on.
32:28My nephew really sniffed the filth was cheering him on.
32:32No, no, no, no, no.
32:34I love whenever Fred gets going.
32:35You look over at me, and you just want to, you just like, you have like a giggle.
32:38Amazing.
32:39You guys are a freaking superstar.
32:41He is.
32:42That is a fact.
32:43You should go to concert.
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32:59Coach, we'll start with the Saturday game, the Eagles at the Commanders.
33:02And I know Fred's already talked about it off the top.
33:04He's already trying to spin zone it a little bit, but what do you think about this game?
33:07Not much.
33:08I don't like the Commanders at all.
33:11I've said that.
33:12I just don't like what they're doing.
33:14I don't like the fact they're sitting Daniels down.
33:16I know, well, let's get them, keep them healthy for next year.
33:19This kid needs to develop as a pocket passer.
33:22He's got to get better.
33:23The only way you get better is by playing.
33:25I don't like playing a bunch of young guys to see what we have.
33:28Philadelphia needs to go for a knockout punch early in this game.
33:32The Eagles are beat up, man.
33:34They got a lot of guys missing on their O-line, but they're going to win this game and cover.
33:38I think Philadelphia, after that 31-0 win last week against the Raiders,
33:44they did get some confidence back, some morale boosting,
33:48and I think this is going to be another way to really get them grooving
33:53and healthy towards the playoffs.
33:55Dan, what do you think?
33:56I agree with everything you just said.
33:58It's a t-shirt and hat game.
33:59The Eagles got right because they played the Raiders.
34:03They know, look, they got a little, they got some help from the Vikings
34:07and J.J. McCarthy on Sunday night beating the Cowboys.
34:09So now their magic number is one, just win this game.
34:12They're going to win this game, and they're going to win it by 14.
34:16Okay, Fred.
34:17But you know what, Fred?
34:18You're going to find a couple core special teams players.
34:20Yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:22Why are we finding out Gunner out of our guy?
34:25He's a good guy.
34:26You know what?
34:27The one thing we can all agree on about Philadelphia,
34:29the bleacher creatures of Philadelphia, that even though they're a very good team,
34:34very talented, defending Super Bowl winners, they don't like each other, Coach.
34:39No, these friendships is not going well.
34:43And you know right now it wouldn't take much to break that camel's back when it comes to the relationship
34:48between one A.J. Brown and one Jalen Hurts.
34:51And no other team can separate them right now like we can separate them.
34:55All right?
34:56The one thing that can happen if he goes out here and have two catches for 12 yards,
34:59oh, they finna break up like the Beatles, baby.
35:02And we gon' be the team responsible for this emotional breakup.
35:05Like we got them twice in the next couple of weeks, all right?
35:09Yeah.
35:10We got them twice in the next couple of weeks.
35:11And I'm only looking at the spread and I'm talking to myself in my head
35:14and saying, you know what?
35:15It's a divisional game.
35:16They got a lot of people hurt.
35:18The quarterback don't like the wide receiver.
35:20A.J. Brown might have a Bible on the sideline this week.
35:24Playing in preverbs one, two, three, asking them to throw him the damn ball.
35:30I cannot wait to be the reason that they limp into the playoff, hating each other guts.
35:35We got one thing to do.
35:37We got one thing to accomplish.
35:38Break them apart.
35:40That's our job and we gon' do it.
35:42I like that.
35:43That's a good pump pump.
35:44Jerry, love that.
35:45That's a good pump, Fred.
35:46That's good.
35:47Do you actually believe that?
35:48Washington, the Commanders of Washington, America's team.
35:51What do you say about landing yourself?
35:53One time we were playing the Cincinnati Bengals.
35:55That was when the Bengals weren't very good.
35:57And they were out there talking like you.
35:59They had a huddle of Bengals.
36:00And they were like 0-8.
36:02And they were talking like that.
36:03And I remember Keyshawn, he walked out, he said, shut your ass up.
36:07Shut your ass up.
36:09That's what the Eagles are going to do to you guys, Fred.
36:12Shut your ass up.
36:13They are one inch away from fracturing.
36:16They are one inch away from break to shattering into pieces.
36:21And that old line.
36:22That old line ain't the old line that you used to, Coach.
36:25That old line made of butter and we got a butter knife.
36:28Fred, what do you say about lying to yourself?
36:31What's the saying?
36:32You know, you can lie to your wife.
36:34You can lie to your teacher.
36:35But to lie to yourself, that's a damn shame.
36:37Is that what you're doing?
36:38I'm not lying to myself.
36:39I actually believe what I'm saying.
36:41Listen.
36:42This team in Philadelphia has taken on the identity of one, their coach, and their fan base.
36:48And their fan base is a fickle, fickle person.
36:51All right?
36:52And they are fickle.
36:53And they are fragile.
36:54And we're going to eat on that.
36:56I hope on Saturday night you're this happy.
36:59Oh, no.
37:00All we got to do is if they beat us by a field goal, I won.
37:04It's going to be tighter than you think.
37:06It's going to be tighter than you think.
37:08I'm telling you now, man.
37:10I've been on teams that we got this in-locker-room division.
37:15You can't win divided.
37:16You got to be together.
37:18All right?
37:19And they ain't together.
37:20They don't listen to music together.
37:21They don't go nowhere together.
37:22A.J. Brown drives his accord in there, picks his book up, catches three touchdowns in the league.
37:28Every time he have a good game, they don't really have good offensive chemistry.
37:32Because they forcing him the ball.
37:34Forcing him the ball where they got Devontae Smith over there.
37:36Why they got Dallas Goddard over there.
37:38Why they got Saquon.
37:39Guys, get the running back behind him.
37:41Just hand him the damn ball.
37:42They won't do that either.
37:43All right?
37:44I'm telling you now, Coach.
37:45You're going to have to eat them words.
37:46Okay.
37:47Okay.
37:48I'm hungry.
37:49I'll eat them.
37:50I will eat them.
37:51All right, Dan.
37:52The Bills at the Browns.
37:53The Bills minus ten and a half.
37:55Give me the Browns plus ten and a half.
37:57I don't know.
37:58I think the Bills kind of play down to their competition a little bit.
38:00I think I saw a stat.
38:01They're one and four against the spread against teams under 500 this year.
38:05The Bills are going to win this game, but the Browns will probably stick around a little bit.
38:08So, give me them plus ten and a half.
38:10Coach, what do you think?
38:11Yeah, this spread thing, you know, it's tough, you know.
38:14The Browns, they beat the Raiders.
38:16And everybody was excited about Sanders, obviously, but they score eight points against the 49ers.
38:23They lose at home to the Tennessee Titans.
38:25They score three points last week.
38:27They got their brains beat in.
38:28Cleveland's going to lose.
38:29Buffalo has got a chance, right?
38:32They're getting a lot of momentum.
38:33They're getting hot.
38:34That win last week.
38:35Did it for them.
38:36I think that might be the straw, man.
38:38It really turns the tide.
38:39It's the catalyst.
38:40And you look around in the AFC, and if Lamar's out.
38:45If Joe Burrow's out.
38:46Joe Burrow's out.
38:47Yeah.
38:48Patrick Mahomes out.
38:49The usual suspects.
38:50Who's the best quarterback?
38:52It's not like Buffalo's going to get out there in Cleveland and be cold and say,
38:55Ooh, it's cold on Lake Erie.
38:57They're from Buffalo.
38:58Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
38:59That ain't going to bother them.
39:00They're going to hand it to James Cook.
39:01This offensive line of the Bills, let me tell you, they've done a hell of a job.
39:05Oh, they're so good.
39:06They've done a hell of a job.
39:07They're so good.
39:08Now, Deion Dawkins is sick.
39:09He may not be ready to go, but I'm going to go with the Bills.
39:11They're just too good.
39:12Trenton?
39:13You know what?
39:14Nobody ever wants to point this out.
39:15Coach, I said it earlier before we started the show.
39:18Nobody wants to hold Kevin Stefanski.
39:20They don't want to hold him accountable.
39:22You know what?
39:23He didn't sign Deshaun Watson.
39:26Listen, I have watched 12 quarterbacks play in this office and all stink.
39:31All right.
39:32All 12 don't stink.
39:34He's won Coach of the Year twice.
39:36Yes.
39:37I also won Player of the Year.
39:38Didn't mean I was good.
39:39No, you didn't.
39:40The Fred Snoop Player of the Year.
39:42In college.
39:43Check this out.
39:44I'm going to get some people to hold Kevin Stefanski like they did in Scooby Doo
39:47and I'm going to pull that mask off because he's faking like he's a head coach in this league.
39:50I'm telling you right now.
39:51He's lacking leadership.
39:52He's lacking communication skills.
39:53And he don't know how to love on no quarterback.
39:55The one position that needs love in this game is quarterback.
39:58And I wouldn't let him babysit my quarterback for a week because he just ain't good at nurturing.
40:02He ain't good at taking care of.
40:04And he walk outside while they crawling in the floor out there and leaving by theyself.
40:08I'm telling you right now.
40:09The Bills are going to win this game and the Browns are going to see the light.
40:12We need a new head coach.
40:13We need to start fresh from zero.
40:15We got athletes.
40:16We just don't got that leader.
40:18I'm telling you right now.
40:19He ain't that dude.
40:21Fred's preaching today.
40:22Yeah.
40:23I'm going to say right now though, we're about to get to some games that we just should do.
40:26Just picks.
40:27Just picks.
40:28Both teams are eliminated.
40:30We're going to get icky.
40:31We're going to get icky in a minute.
40:32We're going to get icky in a minute.
40:33And not get this Fred smooth commentary.
40:35Yeah.
40:36No, but there's a couple games that still matter.
40:38Yeah.
40:39This has been a great show, but I'm saying.
40:40Okay.
40:41We do this on PMT where we start talking about a team.
40:44Yeah.
40:45I'm like, what are we doing?
40:46Why?
40:47Why are we talking about the Bengals and the Dolphins?
40:49Because Joe Burrow's not happening.
40:50He could be in another jersey next year.
40:52Okay.
40:53All right.
40:54We'll go.
40:55We'll get there.
40:56Okay, Fred.
40:57The Chargers at the Cowboys.
40:58The Cowboys minus two and a half.
40:59Fred, where are your Cowboys?
41:01At least.
41:02Where are your Cowboys?
41:03You were doing a victory dance after Thanksgiving.
41:05At least.
41:06I told you.
41:07I told you.
41:08Who told you?
41:09The Cowboys were the team.
41:10No one wants to play.
41:11Guess what?
41:12No one's going to have to play them.
41:13They're going to be playing.
41:14They're going to be at home with us?
41:15Yeah.
41:16Check this out.
41:17Shut your filthy garbage mouth.
41:18All right?
41:19That's what you do.
41:20You shut your damn mouth, catfish.
41:21All right?
41:22Let me tell you something.
41:23When this game is over with, the Cowboys will be 7-7-1.
41:25They're still in the hut.
41:26I'm telling you.
41:27No, they won't.
41:28I hope the Eagles are going to win.
41:29No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
41:31They have to win.
41:32They have to win the NFC.
41:33And they got to play the Eagles again.
41:35All right?
41:36You get their head-to-head with them.
41:37No, no.
41:38They already played the Eagles twice.
41:39Twice?
41:40Yeah, yeah.
41:41Well, they still going to win.
41:42They're out, Fred.
41:43Listen.
41:44I still got faith that they can finish 9-7-1.
41:47And they'll be out.
41:48And the Chargers.
41:49The one thing I look.
41:50Justin Herbert is playing his keister off.
41:52He's getting sacked so many times.
41:53You know, I was about to say.
41:54Every time I watch him get off the ground, I'm just like, ooh.
41:57They got the block for this man.
41:59I know.
42:00But this is what happens when Sean Slater and Joe Ock taking out our offense.
42:02I'm telling you right now.
42:03This defense since getting Quinn Williams at the Cowboys.
42:06They had an off day the other day.
42:08They're a better defense.
42:09Give them that.
42:10Overshawn is a dog.
42:11Better at what?
42:12Better at what?
42:13No.
42:14Better group, period.
42:15I will not give them that.
42:16They got torched by the Lions.
42:17They got torched by J.J. McCrokey.
42:18Who hasn't got torched by the Lions?
42:20Who's gotten torched by J.J. McCrokey?
42:21I know who about to get torched by Green Bay.
42:24Okay.
42:25All right.
42:26Let's stick on this game.
42:27I'm going with the Dallas Cowboys.
42:29They win at home against the Chargers.
42:31I just think that trench warfare leans to Dallas instead of the Chargers.
42:36Yes.
42:37Two good quarterbacks.
42:38Ooh.
42:39And I love watching George pick.
42:40I know Coach Greenwich.
42:41He had a George picking in the CD land when he was coaching.
42:44Listen.
42:45They are on fire.
42:46Ferguson is a better tight end than you think he is.
42:48Got Javonte Williams.
42:49They can run the ball.
42:50Dallas Cowboys win this game.
42:52Coach?
42:53If we're in 7-on-7 where you have nothing but the passing game, right?
42:57Yeah.
42:58You have no linemen in there.
42:59Yeah.
43:00If we went to one of these Elite 11 7-on-7 camps, the Cowboys would win.
43:03Yeah.
43:04But they get their ass kicked in the trenches.
43:06That's just my opinion.
43:07Quentin Williams is in concussion protocol.
43:09He might not play.
43:10He'll be all right.
43:11J.J.
43:12McCarthy, I swear I thought I was watching Fran Tarkington last week.
43:15He shredded the Cowboys.
43:16I was unhappy with the trench play on the O-line and the D-line of the Cowboys.
43:22Yeah.
43:23Forget about these receivers.
43:24They don't even throw the ball to Pickens last week.
43:26The Chargers have one thing that I love.
43:29It's called grit.
43:30Yep.
43:31Their head coach, no matter what you say, this quarterback they have, he leads the NFL in
43:35grit.
43:36Yeah.
43:37He might be the toughest son of a bitch playing.
43:38Yeah.
43:39Herbert is going to find a way to win this game.
43:41It might not be pretty all year.
43:43Yeah.
43:44But son of a bitch is he tough.
43:45Oh, no.
43:46He will find a way.
43:47And the Chargers are going to win because I think they're a tougher football team.
43:49Okay.
43:50Dan?
43:51Yeah.
43:52I'm going to take the Cowboys.
43:53So wrong.
43:54You're so wrong about the Bears.
43:55No, I'm not.
43:56They're 10-4.
43:57I'm going to take the Cowboys.
43:58Impostas.
43:59Oh.
44:00You taking the Cowboys?
44:01Yeah, I'm going to take the Cowboys.
44:02See, he going backwards today.
44:03Whatever he agrees with, he goes the opposite way.
44:05The Chargers are a better team.
44:06Here's the thing.
44:07The Dallas defense stinks, but the Chargers can't block up front.
44:11It's the one chance the Cowboys have to maybe get some pressure.
44:14I think the Cowboys win.
44:15Here's the big cat theory for all the people that are listening at home.
44:18Here's the big cat theory.
44:19The team that he really wants to win, which is the Chargers.
44:22Yeah.
44:23He really wants the Chargers.
44:24So, he takes the Cowboys.
44:26Yeah.
44:27So, he wins either way.
44:28No, no, no, no, no.
44:29I told you the Cowboys would win.
44:30No, my pick is the Cowboys.
44:32No, no, no, no.
44:33My pick is the Cowboys.
44:34My pick is the Cowboys.
44:35Listen, the Chargers are a better team.
44:38They're going to go to the playoffs.
44:40I like the Cowboys in this game.
44:42It's smart theory.
44:43I go against my own gut because I'm a fucking moron.
44:46Okay.
44:47Second in motion.
44:48If you live 40 years in this life and you're as dumb as I am, you realize to go against your own gut.
44:55Yeah.
44:56Put that on a poster.
44:57Smart.
44:58Smart.
44:59I go against my own gut because I'm a fucking moron.
45:00Hey, listen.
45:01Sometimes you got to believe what's inside.
45:03It's smart.
45:04Listen, God gave me a great gift of finding how to pick losers all the time gambling.
45:10So now I've realized maybe go against yourself.
45:13Okay.
45:14Fade yourself.
45:15That's not bad.
45:16Yeah.
45:17I agree.
45:18All right, Dan, one of those games we can all just do picks.
45:19Jets at Saints.
45:20Tyler Shuck is the man.
45:21Tyler Shuck has shucked up the entire NFC South.
45:23Oh, Shucks!
45:24Beat your Bucs.
45:25Beat the Panthers.
45:26Tyler Shuck's the real deal.
45:27Give me the Saints.
45:28Tyler Shuck, 300 yards.
45:30I'm with you.
45:31Okay.
45:32Okay.
45:33The Jets can't stop a nosebleed.
45:35The Jets could be the worst team pound for pound I've seen in years.
45:40They do nothing right.
45:42Like, usually you kick the ball right.
45:44You play defense right.
45:45You have something.
45:46That's a strong point.
45:48They have nothing.
45:49Special teams.
45:50None.
45:51They're actually elite at special teams.
45:52They return upon every single week.
45:53Well, they're good at it.
45:54Yeah.
45:55They're good at covering kicks.
45:56Yeah, because you get like 30 tries a game to get it done.
45:59The ratios are off.
46:01That's fair.
46:02I'm going with the New Orleans Saints.
46:03They're going to be playing at home.
46:04That's one reason.
46:05Shuck is getting better.
46:07Yeah.
46:08Every week I see him play, it's getting better.
46:09And we know that New Orleans fan base, they'll still be making some noise in that dome.
46:14It'll still be rocking.
46:15Burberry Street will still be going.
46:16Wish I was there.
46:17Get some of them three for one.
46:18This is one of the most positive things I have seen in the NFL the last couple weeks
46:22is the emergence of Shuck.
46:24You know, the Saints, they have a young quarterback now.
46:27When I was in Green Bay, I told Dave Portnoy this the other day.
46:31When we were in Green Bay, we inherited a team that had been struggling.
46:35Yeah.
46:36And when Brett Favre came there in the trade, he started playing well.
46:39We became a destination for free agents.
46:42They say, hey, we'll go play with that quarterback.
46:44Yeah.
46:45You guys giving the Saints hope, man.
46:46They haven't had a guy like this since Breeze.
46:48Now, you know, I hate Thursday night football.
46:50I do too.
46:51I hate it.
46:52I hate it.
46:53And you know, I hate these games in foreign lands.
46:54Yeah.
46:55The Jets should play every game on Thursday night in a foreign land.
46:59That's how I feel about this.
47:02Just Antarctica and Antarctica and Antarctica.
47:05The Jets.
47:06All right, Coach, the Vikings at the Giants.
47:10The Vikings minus three and a half.
47:12You know, I hate Thursday night football.
47:15And I hate these foreign land games.
47:17The Jets and the Giants should play every Thursday night in a foreign land.
47:22The Giants, they make me sick.
47:24I am really disappointed in them.
47:26I had them picked to win a lot of games.
47:28Coach, what would you do to ring in Jackson Dort?
47:31Like, what would you tell this young bull?
47:33Because he can play, but he's reckless now.
47:35I wouldn't let him drive my car.
47:37I just don't think it's cool.
47:38I don't think it's safe.
47:39I don't think it's good for his future.
47:41It's certainly not good for my future if I'm with the Giants.
47:44Yeah.
47:45You're no good in the concussion protocol tent.
47:47They take this very serious, man.
47:48Yes.
47:49These injuries are very serious.
47:50And once they start to mount up.
47:51The quarterback can't play with a sore right shoulder, a sore right elbow.
47:55You can't miss practice time.
47:57You can't miss games.
47:59They got a real issue getting this point across to Jackson Dart.
48:03He's not going to have a very good shelf life if he doesn't figure it out quick.
48:06But bigger than that, the defensive line, there's a ton of number one picks.
48:11They can't stop the run, Fred.
48:13No, run right at him.
48:14I'm here and they don't even like going to meetings.
48:16They're just not accountable.
48:18Yeah.
48:19The Jets and Giants, very disappointing team.
48:22I'm taking Minnesota.
48:23I think McCarthy's starting to show some life, and that's a good sign for the Vikings.
48:28Dan?
48:29Yeah, I'll take the Vikings.
48:30I don't know.
48:31This game means nothing.
48:32Just no energy.
48:33Yeah, this game means nothing.
48:34Come on.
48:35Let's be honest.
48:36Let's move it along.
48:37Jesse James McCarthy is coming into his own.
48:39He's a quarterback that went to IMG, went to Michigan, was not extra tote the load,
48:44and now he's getting a taste on what it takes to be an NFL quarterback.
48:47I'm going with Jesse James McCarthy because once you get to going.
48:51Well, he got it going against him.
48:53Yeah, he did.
48:54He had a lot to do with that defense.
48:56He shredded your ass.
48:57Switch my pick to the Giants.
48:58It had everything to do with that defense.
49:03I mean, that defense up in Minnesota, they play some defense now.
49:06And I think they're going to really take Jackson Doherty and his offense out the game,
49:10and this defense is going to take them to the woodshed.
49:12And you're switching, Dan?
49:13Yeah, I'm switching.
49:14Okay.
49:15I hate it.
49:16Because then you want to be like all of us agreeing on the side.
49:17No, this game is so stupid.
49:19Like, of course maybe the Giants will win.
49:21I don't know.
49:22Of course not.
49:23Yeah.
49:24All right, Dan, the Chiefs at the Titans.
49:25The Chiefs eliminated from the playoff.
49:26No Patrick Mahomes.
49:27If there ever was a team that should quit, it's the Chiefs right now.
49:30Just quit.
49:31Give me the Titans.
49:32That ain't what football players do.
49:33Just quit.
49:34That ain't what football players do.
49:35You've played in every freaking Super Bowl in the last seven years.
49:39You've been in every playoff game.
49:4010 years.
49:41Patrick Mahomes is hurt.
49:43The season's over.
49:44Quit.
49:45Yeah.
49:46All their receivers are hurt.
49:47Rashi Rice is in the protocol.
49:49Their offensive line is hurt.
49:51To me, this is worth talking about.
49:53Cam Ward.
49:54Yeah.
49:55These last couple games.
49:56You say, ah, we don't need to play Jaden Daniels.
49:58Bullshit.
49:59I think these last few games are really important for Cam Ward and the Tennessee Titans.
50:04Let's see some progress.
50:06Let's get a couple wins.
50:07Let's get a good taste in our mouth.
50:09Tennessee's going to win this game.
50:11It's going to be tough, but I think the Titans have a lot more to play for than the Chiefs.
50:16And something to watch.
50:17Cam Ward is 1,793 yards away from breaking Andrew Luck's rookie record for passing yards in a season.
50:24Something to watch.
50:251,793 yards.
50:27He's not going to get those.
50:29That ain't going to happen, then.
50:30On the watch.
50:31This is not going to happen.
50:32On the watch.
50:33That's a stat to watch.
50:34We know that's not going to happen.
50:35It's a stat to watch.
50:36How sad is it to see the exchange of the old guard to the new guard?
50:43It's going to be.
50:44It's one year.
50:45I expect all these teams next year to be back.
50:47Andy Reid hasn't missed the playoffs this decade.
50:50Yeah.
50:51All right.
50:52Patrick Mahone hasn't missed the playoffs since he's been a starting quarterback.
50:57Lamar never misses the playoffs.
50:59Joe Burrow, only time he misses is when he hurt.
51:02It's sad to see Andy Reid.
51:03I played against Andy Reid for a decade.
51:05I respect Coach with the utmost.
51:07Ain't going to be no give up in Kansas City.
51:09I'm telling you that now.
51:10That's correct.
51:11Ain't going to be no give up in Kansas City.
51:12They going to play to the end.
51:14And it ain't about Kansas City.
51:16It's about who are they playing?
51:18The Tennessee Titans.
51:20You want to talk about awful.
51:21What's going on in the AFC?
51:22I'm going with the Kansas City Chiefs.
51:24They will find a way.
51:25Chris Jones and the guys will find a way to get this win.
51:28They just better.
51:29They just better.
51:30I'm sorry.
51:31All right, Fred, I'll come back to you.
51:32What about the Dolphins?
51:34The one that Dan said he didn't even talk about.
51:37Give me the Dolphins, Quinn Ewers.
51:39Just put me up and I'm done.
51:41You don't take Quinn Ewers?
51:42Yeah.
51:43I mean, the Bengals are just in a sad spot.
51:47You know what?
51:48To hear Joe Burrow talk this week,
51:50he looks like a man that already made his mind up
51:53that I'm out of here.
51:54The Brown family.
51:55I done had enough of what you're going to do.
51:57You're not going to put no money into the facilities.
51:59You're not going to put no money into the stadium.
52:01You're not going to get me the players that I need.
52:03I'm thinking about it's a change time for a change of scenery.
52:06All right?
52:07Now that makes me sick to my stomach.
52:08But the one thing I know about Joe, he is a competitor.
52:11He will continue to play.
52:13And Tua has been benched.
52:15Nobody want to talk about that.
52:17I got a 90 million dollar quarterback that's on the bench.
52:22That's mutiny.
52:23That's mutiny.
52:24That mean my coach want to save his job.
52:27You can't tell me Skyler Thompson or whoever behind me.
52:31Quinn Ewers?
52:33Yeah, Quinn Ewers.
52:34You smell that?
52:36Stink!
52:37When he came into the league, he stumped.
52:40He stumped, all right?
52:41And you're going to put him out there because you're sick of seeing me throw it in the dirt?
52:45I'm going with the Cincinnati Bengals, man.
52:47I'm just hurt at the state of the NFL right now.
52:49I'm crying inside.
52:50Coach.
52:51I am too after that statement.
52:54If Joe Burrow can't win this game, coming off a shutout, I mean I know he might not be happy.
53:01That's obvious, but he's got a lot of pride.
53:04Yeah.
53:05And so do the Cincinnati Bengals.
53:06You get your ass beat 24 to nothing.
53:08T. Higgins is going to come back.
53:10They still have Chase.
53:11Yeah.
53:12They got to get their act together.
53:13They got to beat Miami.
53:15Yes.
53:16Coming off a short week with a brand new quarterback.
53:18You got to go with the Bengals.
53:20Okay.
53:21If the Bengals lose this game.
53:22Uh-oh.
53:23Something seriously, seriously wrong.
53:24It's going to be a trade this offseason.
53:26I'm telling y'all blockbuster.
53:28All right, Dan, the Falcons at the Cardinals.
53:30Falcons, I don't know.
53:35Yeah.
53:36Falcons.
53:37Falcons look good.
53:39You know, Arizona just, I don't know what happened to them.
53:42I mean, I'm watching the Rams hand the ball to Blake Corum.
53:44Yeah.
53:45And Blake Corum looks like Barry Sanders.
53:47I mean, he just totally annihilated the curve.
53:49Just peeled out on them.
53:50They gave up 550 yards.
53:51Mm-hmm.
53:52I don't know where Arizona went.
53:53They just quit.
53:54They beat Dallas.
53:55Another tough loss for your Cowboys on Monday Night Football on the road.
53:59They beat the Cowboys.
54:00And since that game, Kyler Murray, he's got a lot of money in his pocket.
54:04I know.
54:05There's some quarterbacks here.
54:06There's situations up here where they ain't got them paid.
54:08Yeah, I don't know.
54:09They're too early.
54:10Mm-hmm.
54:11They're too late to Falcons.
54:12Kirk Cousins threw for 400 yards last week without Drake London.
54:16Well, first of all, they got Kirk out of that terrible pistol.
54:20I hate the pistol.
54:22Don't you bring no pistol to no stadium.
54:24They'll get you kicked out.
54:25I hate when they do that and put quarterbacks there.
54:27No, put Kirk on the center.
54:29They're going to make the play action work better.
54:32I need to see the back of his jersey when he goes to hand the ball to beat John.
54:36That changes everything, man.
54:37I'm going with the Atlanta Falcons.
54:38I know it's my ex-wife team.
54:40I hate them.
54:41But, hey, they're going to beat the Cardinals.
54:44All right, Coach.
54:45The Raiders at the Texans.
54:47You don't have to talk about this if you don't want to.
54:5014 and a half.
54:51They're the worst team I've ever seen.
54:53I picked the Texans to go to the Super Bowl.
54:55I really think they're playing that good.
54:57They've got a lot of injuries on defense, so I think they're going to sit down a couple key players.
55:01But I think they can overcome that.
55:03But I watched the Raiders last week against Philly.
55:06Why?
55:07Your TV started crying.
55:09It was tears coming down on this TV.
55:11Why?
55:12They appeared to be mismatched at almost every position against Philadelphia.
55:16Yeah.
55:17And I think Geno Smith will return at quarterback, but I'm going to go with the Houston Texans.
55:24Yes.
55:25Same.
55:26The Raiders are the worst team ever.
55:27You remember them Whopper commercials we used to watch?
55:29Yeah.
55:30When they say, like, your hand's too small, you can't hold this Whopper?
55:33Yeah.
55:34Them was Kenneth Pickett's hands.
55:35All right?
55:36He has the smallest hands I've ever seen in my life.
55:38I don't know how he's a quarterback in this league.
55:40But then you take him out and put Geno Smith in and it doesn't get better.
55:44You've got Brock Biles as one of the most lethal weapons in football.
55:47You can't even feed him the ball because your offensive line stinks.
55:51You took a running back in the top five.
55:53He's starting to smell like Trent Richardson.
55:56I don't know.
55:57You know?
55:58That cologne stinks.
55:59All I'm saying is the Raiders are in discipline.
56:01It's nothing they do good.
56:03They don't even warm up well.
56:04They do nothing good on the football field.
56:06You know?
56:07I want to fight you, Fred.
56:08I do.
56:09Coach, I'm not violent.
56:10Coach, I'm not violent.
56:11You're enjoying a taunting me right now.
56:13No, no, no, coach.
56:14You see?
56:15I understand what you're doing here.
56:16The black and silver, coach.
56:17You feel it?
56:18It's not feared anymore.
56:19When I go to Las Vegas, this is to see the spear.
56:21I don't go to see any football.
56:23There's no football being played in that city right now.
56:25Well, let me tell you this, Fred.
56:26What Al Davis told me, the greatness of the Raiders is in the future.
56:30You'll see.
56:31I don't want to be alive for that.
56:34You'll see.
56:35We will be 70 years old when that happens.
56:38You'll see.
56:39The greatness of the commanders is in the future.
56:43All right, Dan.
56:44What is your hot take for week 16?
56:45All right, my hot take is the Dallas Cowboys are going to win on Sunday.
56:49But before that, the Eagles are going to win on Saturday.
56:51And then Fred Smoot next week, or whenever we come,
56:54I think we're doing a show after Christmas, is going to say,
56:57hey, the Cowboys are still alive, not realizing they've been eliminated.
57:00That's what's going to happen.
57:01He's going to be like, oh, the Cowboys, the Cowboys, the Cowboys.
57:04He's going to wait until they're just not in the playoff to admit
57:06that they're not in the playoff.
57:07He might even wait.
57:08It might even be the playoff start, and he's looking on the shoes.
57:11He's like, where are the Cowboys at?
57:12What's the Cowboys game?
57:13Where are they playing?
57:14Yeah.
57:15All right, Fred, what's your hot take?
57:17My hot take is to watch the commanders keep the game close.
57:20Might not win in Philadelphia, but in the process,
57:23breaking the brand, the Beatles up.
57:25Paul McCartney likes nobody.
57:27He's a genius.
57:28He feels like he don't have to put up with everybody's stuff.
57:30We're going to see the cracks start to show in the Liberty Bell in Philadelphia.
57:34That's all I'm saying.
57:36This is the beginning of the end.
57:38Something has to give.
57:40All right, Coach.
57:42My hot take is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
57:46This is a wake-up call.
57:48Coach Todd Bowles, he said it well at his press conference after that loss to Atlanta.
57:52It was a Thursday night loss.
57:54They've had a couple extra days to get the therapy.
57:57I'm talking about the mental conditioning to go on a run here.
58:01Baker Mayfield is going to throw for 315 yards.
58:06Mike Evans.
58:07Shred!
58:08Shred!
58:09Shred!
58:10Shred!
58:11Shred!
58:12Shred!
58:13Let's go.
58:14Tampa Bay Buccaneers are going to shred the Carolina Panthers.
58:16You will see.
58:17Fred put his head down on the desk for that.
58:19It shred my brain to hear this over and over again.
58:22God, you know, when you get in a huddle with Godwin, Evans, Bucky Irvin,
58:27McMillan's back.
58:29Yeah.
58:30Abuka.
58:31Yeah.
58:32You got Tristan Wurfs and Gedecky and Barton and Mayfield.
58:35The hell you think's going on?
58:37We're rising.
58:38They haven't played together this year.
58:40This is going to be the first half of how they want to be in the game.
58:44That's a hot take.
58:45I love it.
58:46All right, let's go to survivor pool picks.
58:47Dan and Fred are still alive.
58:49Let's go.
58:50So, Fred, you can't take the 49ers, the Ravens, the Seahawks, the Dolphins,
58:53or the Broncos.
58:54Dan, you can't take the Jags, the Texans, the Bears, the Chargers,
58:57or the Rams.
58:58I'll take the Bills.
58:59Okay.
59:00You're going to take the Bills?
59:01Yeah.
59:02I'll take the Bills.
59:03I'm going to take the Atlanta Falcons.
59:05Okay.
59:06To beat the Cardinals.
59:07Your ex-wife's team.
59:08Okay.
59:09Listen, you know what?
59:10We still cool.
59:11Love, love.
59:12You know what I mean?
59:13I feel like if I asked her, that wouldn't be the answer.
59:15Ain't no love, love.
59:17All right.
59:18So, we'll be off for Christmas next week.
59:19We'll be back after.
59:20Yes.
59:21So, have a fantastic holiday.
59:22Merry Christmas, and we'll see you in 2026, Coach.
59:24Merry Christmas.
59:25Merry Christmas.
59:26Merry Christmas.
59:27Get that cold out your pocket.
59:28Merry Christmas.
59:29Thank you guys.
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