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00:00It's about more than just Joe Lacob and his email response and Kaminga and his playing time.
00:05I just am really interested in what Joe Lacob said about Jimmy's not the problem.
00:12And I agree with him, Jimmy's not the problem, but what are the problems and what are the solutions?
00:18And Steve's not going to be able to say, well, this guy and this guy and that guy and that guy.
00:22And there really are a lot of problems and there aren't any easy solutions.
00:27Like the one solution is, well, how about the guys who shoot?
00:32They shoot better.
00:32And the guys who defend, they defend better.
00:35And the people who have the ball, they stop turning it over.
00:39Those are definitely things that are problems.
00:42When Draymond Green has eight turnovers, that's a problem.
00:45When Buddy Heald, who is supposed to be your sniper 1A, I saved the day.
00:51And you're shooting 31%, that's a problem.
00:54So, we can go through all the problems and we will.
00:58And I don't know what the solutions are other than, hey, guys, play better.
01:02You know?
01:02Well, I think you're spot on.
01:04And this is, for me, still where the conversation falls short is I do think that a lot of us,
01:10you express frustration.
01:13Like, even take this emailer who got to Joe Lacob today.
01:16And it, hey, Joe, you got to do something about this team.
01:19Well, what?
01:21What?
01:21What is it you all want to do?
01:24What is it that any of them can do?
01:27Like, oh, sure, Steve's front and center.
01:29Mike Dunleavy.
01:29We better trade someone.
01:30Well, the main guy they want to trade is not even tradable.
01:33What?
01:34Like, Joe Lacob's response, the first words out of his mouth, it's complicated.
01:38It's complicated.
01:40So, I get the frustration.
01:42I get it.
01:43The Warriors are tough right now.
01:44In fact, Samita in Los Gatos says the team is unwatchable.
01:52Samita, thank you for calling.
01:53Is that your thought?
01:54The team's unwatchable?
01:57Yeah.
01:58Yeah, it's brutal watching these games where they come back, put up a fight, and then lose by, you know, a handful of points at the end because, I don't know, it's just like the wheels come off at the end.
02:11And, you know, watching them is, you know, you watch Steph make these incredible efforts every night.
02:19He is really carrying this team on his shoulders, but no one else is stepping up to the level that he is.
02:27And when Steph Curry is scoring 40-plus points a night and you are still losing, you have a very deep-rooted problem.
02:35No question.
02:36A very, very deep-rooted problem.
02:38Samita, do you want to?
02:39Oh, go ahead.
02:41No, go ahead.
02:43No, I was going to say, do you want to take a crack at what you would do, though?
02:48Like, what do you want to see them do differently?
02:50Yeah.
02:50What's the fix?
02:52Yeah.
02:53You got to play Butler in a different role, and if you're not going to play him in a different position where he can be more effective, then you got to get rid of him.
03:02And I think just about, as you guys were saying, 4-14, none of those guys are good enough.
03:10And I don't know why they're not good enough.
03:13I don't have the, you know, basketball, you know, background to be able to say why they're good enough, not good enough.
03:19I don't know if they're not getting enough minutes.
03:21I don't know if they're not being coached correctly or they just don't have it.
03:25But we have no upcoming saviors on the bench.
03:30It's just not going to happen, whether it's Paws, Kamingo, or anybody.
03:34And Joe, and I think Don Levy has to take some of the heat for this, because who are these guys?
03:40Why are we so invested in these guys who cannot come through when we need them?
03:46And we have Steph Curry at 37 years old scoring 40-plus points a game against teams like the Blazers.
03:54I mean, we lost to Minnesota with, you know, nobody.
03:57You know what's fascinating, though, Samino?
03:59Like, what did you think all those scrubs when they went on the road to Cleveland and Chicago in 24 hours and won two basketball games?
04:06Yeah, I kind of think they were flukes, because, you know, the name of the game is consistency.
04:13Yeah, no, that's totally fair.
04:15Hey, Samina, great call.
04:16Thank you very much.
04:18Like, and here's the reason I bring that up.
04:20She used the word rolls, and I really think that's where the Warriors are stuck.
04:25I think Jimmy Butler is suddenly having a hard time fitting.
04:28We already know that Jonathan is having a hard time fitting.
04:31And all of these people who look like scrubs, and maybe they are,
04:34but at the same time, like, you're playing with Steph Curry.
04:41Therefore, you automatically know your role is kind of like,
04:46hey, just be in a certain spot and see if you can pass 30 the ball.
04:50And that's kind of like, I think that a lot of players get stuck in a spot of,
04:56I don't know how aggressive to be or not be when we're out here with Steph.
05:01And so, again, I'm not saying the Warriors are better off without Steph.
05:05That's stupid.
05:07But I do think sometimes, in a small sample, you get what you got last weekend,
05:11which is Steph's not there.
05:13And same thing, Draymond leaves at Philly, and here we go.
05:17All of a sudden, these guys are like, whoo!
05:20It's like a dog riding at the dog park.
05:22Right, they're right at the dog park, and they're just like, wow!
05:25Like, they start running 1,000 miles an hour.
05:29And you're like, you walked here, but now I took the leash off, gone.
05:34Yeah.
05:35You know?
05:36It's the freedom, and it's a certain amount of, you know,
05:38the role is defined when there's no Steph, and there's no Jimmy,
05:42and there's no Draymond.
05:43You're Pat Spencer, and you're going to start, and you get to cook,
05:46and Will Richard, the same thing.
05:48Quentin Post is a little different, because no matter who's out there
05:51with Quentin Post, he knows what he's supposed to do.
05:53On offense, go ahead and get to your spot right there below the break,
05:58not quite all the way in the corner, but just go out there, Quentin,
06:01and we're going to find you, you know, four to eight times a game,
06:05and you catch and shoot, and you knock it down, hopefully,
06:07and we'll go from there.
06:09The thing about Jimmy, and I was just looking at his game log last year
06:12when he joined the Warriors, and it's almost identical.
06:16To this year, field goal attempts, points a game, rebounds,
06:21shooting percentage, three-point percentage.
06:24So Jimmy is really, for the most part, he's kind of been what you expected
06:28last year when he came, and before the playoffs,
06:31and before Steph got hurt and the rest of it.
06:33He's about 11 shots a game, about 18 points a game,
06:36and that's what he's done this year.
06:38So when Joe says, Joe Lacob, yeah, Jimmy's not the problem,
06:42I kind of agree with him, because Jimmy Butler's not going to be 25
06:46points a night anymore.
06:47That's not who he is.
06:48No, I don't think you want him to do that.
06:51Like, in an ideal world, the offense runs through Steph,
06:54and kind of as things get late in the shot clock,
06:58that's when you start to move maybe toward Jimmy to see if he can drive
07:01and create something for someone else or get himself to the free-throw line.
07:05Or who knows, every now and again, he might actually just finish.
07:08You know what I mean?
07:09Like, that's kind of how I see the absolute basics of the Warriors' offense.
07:15But they're in and out of the lineup,
07:18and the other guys are all seemingly somewhat confused
07:23about when to hit the gas and when to hit the brakes.
07:27Some of them have been kind of locked in the corner.
07:31And, yeah, everybody's frustrated.
07:35Everybody's frustrated.
07:37Because, like, the whole thing just feels kind of stop-start.
07:40Sometimes even within games.
07:41No doubt.
07:42That's why you get, like, a half against OKC or Philly,
07:45where you're just like, well, this is sleepy and awful.
07:47And then the next thing you know, you're like, whoa, gangbusters.
07:50Here they come from behind.
07:52It's just too inconsistent, all of it.
07:55Because you're talking about players 4 through 13 who, honestly, aren't that good.
08:00And if you want to look at all those individuals, they are probably, on a very good team,
08:06they're probably players 7 through 13.
08:08But on this team, somebody's got to be player 4, player 5, player 6, etc.
08:12Yeah.
08:13And that's where...
08:13It's a good point.
08:14It's a little bit harsh, but I'm just going to say it because, you know,
08:18if it's Moody and Pods, and if it's Post and Heald,
08:22and if it's D'Anthony Melton and TJD and Guy and Pat,
08:27these are all, like, some of those guys are true third stringers.
08:31The other guys are second stringers.
08:32D'Anthony Melton is a great example.
08:34If he's playing at his best and you are a really good team,
08:38he's probably your sixth man or maybe your seventh man.
08:41Maybe.
08:41I mean, he can be...
08:41I don't mind if he's a starter on the team.
08:43I think the question that you're getting to,
08:46and I wonder even how you'd answer this,
08:48who do you want to be the Warriors' third scorer?
08:53I mean, who would I want...
08:54Who do you want it to be?
08:56In an ideal setting, it probably would be Buddy Heald.
09:01Buddy Heald would become the splash cousin,
09:04and Buddy Heald would play up to his level.
09:08And if he could do that, because honestly, in an ideal world,
09:11Steph's going to get you 27 or 28.
09:14Jimmy's going to get you 18.
09:16And then Buddy gets you 15, and then Draymond gets you 12.
09:21Quentin will get you 9, and then everybody else can chip in with 8s and 7s and 6s.
09:25See, I think it's such a fascinating answer,
09:28because you answered it sort of in the moment with what the Warriors are currently attempting to do.
09:34I bet plenty of listeners just screamed at their smart speaker or their radio.
09:39All roads, you idiots!
09:40Yeah.
09:41And they're not wrong.
09:43That's in an ideal world.
09:45Right.
09:45We're not living in an ideal world.
09:47And whether you want to side with he hasn't been given the opportunity to do it,
09:53or you want to side with he hasn't made the most of the opportunities that he has been given,
09:58I would argue you're all correct.
09:59I would argue you're all correct.
10:02But yes, that's who you, I think that's who they want to be the third scorer.
10:08He hasn't shown the ability to do it, and Steve is not patient enough to stick with it,
10:14nor probably are Steph and Jimmy.
10:16And so, to me, that's the whole problem.
10:23You don't have one.
10:24No.
10:25And you need one.
10:26You need one.
10:26Go around the other good teams, and you all can name.
10:29Like, I can do OKC.
10:31We can do Denver.
10:32You can all come up with a viable, like, oh, yeah, that person can score the basketball.
10:38If I go to Denver, the guy who owns the Warriors is their third option.
10:43His name is Aaron Gordon.
10:45It used to be Michael Porter.
10:47But, like, those are third options.
10:50They go to OKC, and once you get past Shea and J-Dub,
10:54you could think about Chet Holmgren, or even, you know, going inside to Hartenstein or whatever.
11:01Like, these are teams that have an actual, look at the Lakers, for God's sakes,
11:05I don't even need to name the three names.
11:07You know what I'm talking about.
11:08The Rockets, I just looked at it.
11:10Look at it.
11:10Because I'm fascinated by Houston.
11:12Their third scorer is a guy named Aman Thompson.
11:15You know he's averaging 17 a night?
11:17Is he really?
11:1817 a night.
11:20He's going to be special.
11:21He's going to be really special.
11:22And I just looked at Houston because I was thinking about Joe Lacob
11:25and his comment in the email, style of play.
11:28And the style of play that the Warriors play does not suit Jonathan Kaminga.
11:32The Warriors are shooting the second most threes a game in the association,
11:36and J.K. is not a good three-point shooter.
11:39So I thought, huh, what other team out there doesn't shoot the three,
11:44but actually scores pretty well?
11:45And that's Houston.
11:47They shoot fewer than 30 threes a game, and they're averaging a buck 21 a night.
11:51They're fourth in the association in PPG, points per game.
11:55The style of play that they play, it suits them.
11:59KD's not a three-point guy.
12:01Shingun, no.
12:02Aman Thompson, God no.
12:04But all they do is get to the line, offensive rebound, and score.
12:08They have an identity.
12:10They have a style of play that suits their roster.
12:13The style of play that the Warriors are playing, it doesn't suit Kaminga,
12:17and unfortunately it doesn't suit a lot of these guys.
12:19Well, that's kind of the point.
12:20Like when we go, hey, why are you shooting so many threes?
12:24And then you go, hey, why are you so small?
12:26Well, you kind of answer your own question.
12:28Right.
12:29Like the Rockets can go inside because they have the length to do so,
12:35and they can get high percentage looks because they can shoot over people.
12:39The Warriors can't go in there.
12:40They can't go in there.
12:41Even Jimmy Butler, you were just saying.
12:43They're too small.
12:44Yep.
12:44Too small to go in there, so you've got to fire a three.
12:47But then they're not that consistent from three.
12:49And there you go.
12:51There's your answer.
12:52That's right.
12:53Some nights you're going to be okay from three,
12:56and you might win those games.
12:58You might win those games if you can defend on the other end.
13:01But if you're going to be cold from three,
13:03you're going to get five points in the first quarter in Philadelphia.
13:07That's what you're going to get.
13:08You know what I mean?
13:09So 888-957-9570, we made an executive decision on the fly there.
13:15Maybe we'll do Grandy's grades on the Niners tomorrow.
13:18People are just too, this is too.
13:20I was about to bury them for getting to 10 wins.
13:24I was going to give their defense a C+.
13:27Salah, where were you last weekend?
13:31Sitting there with a Mai Tai, letting the offense do all the work.
13:34Anyway.
13:35Seriously.
13:35We'll get to it.
13:37For sure we will.
13:39And Kerr's in a half hour, but there's a lot of you that want to weigh in.
13:43So let's do that.
13:43We're here for you.
13:44Rick and Concord.
13:46Hi, Rick.
13:46Thanks for the call.
13:49Hey, guys.
13:51Thanks for having my call.
13:52Yeah.
13:54Long time listener, but for me, it's all about touches in the paint.
14:02Right now, they don't have the balance.
14:05We just want to take all the three-pointers in the world.
14:08We are, you know, three-point attempts is high.
14:11So that means there's just no finisher.
14:14At the time, we're doing well.
14:15Camingo is doing well.
14:16He was finishing.
14:17We were touching the paint.
14:19Jimmy was touching the paint.
14:20At this point, I would love to see GP2 get a run at it.
14:26Just because we know he can finish.
14:29We know he can defend.
14:30He knows his role.
14:31He doesn't need to try so hard.
14:33The ball gets to where it needs to be.
14:36Jimmy can play his role.
14:37He can be the wing guy.
14:38He can be the cutter.
14:40And at some point, Camingo was that guy.
14:44And for some reason, he became the wing and just held the ball outside and had all these turnovers.
14:50So I would really like to see GP2 get a crack at it, give him five, six minutes, see how he goes.
14:57But I think at the time we were winning, he was in the game.
15:01The play was fast.
15:03He knew how to play defense.
15:04He knew how to play with these guys.
15:06And he's a consistent guy within that group that knows his role.
15:10Rick, thanks.
15:11I don't necessarily disagree.
15:13I could probably, I mean, hell, we'll listen on anyone right now, right?
15:18Here's the thing about GP2.
15:19I do think there are moments where the offense, really, the ball movement with GP2 and him kind of getting into that dunker spot or maybe a corner three.
15:30And he obviously does not hurt you on the defensive end.
15:33It can be really good.
15:35The problem with GP2 is if they get him out of the corner and they put him out there on the wing, he becomes a non-factor immediately offensively.
15:45And here we go.
15:46Rinse, repeat.
15:47Wait, can you put GP2 on the floor with Jimmy Butler and Draymond Green?
15:51No.
15:51You're done.
15:52Yep.
15:52You're dust.
15:53You're dust.
15:54The three-point line becomes a total problem.
15:57And so when you watch some of these other teams, when you watch the game in Portland the other night,
16:02doesn't it feel like the three-point line is surrounded?
16:07We've got you surrounded.
16:08Come out with your hands up.
16:10And the ball will move, and it doesn't matter who it gets to.
16:14It's a dangerous, open, three-point look.
16:18The Warriors have too many players that help them on the defensive side that are basically unplayable on the offensive side because it means there's too many non-shooters on the floor.
16:28And that's an interesting comp because Portland is 29th in the association in three-point percentage.
16:34Unless they're playing the Warriors.
16:35Right.
16:35And it's because the Warriors don't guard it very well.
16:38At least they haven't against Portland.
16:40And maybe it's just Portland having a couple of great nights at home against Golden State from three.
16:45But it's not a wrong way to describe it because even when Portland wasn't shooting threes, they're getting a lot of easy shots at the rim.
16:54Because they have so much size, you know, throwing up alley-oops to Robert Williams and company.
16:58And they're able to get easy buckets that way.
17:01So if the Warriors aren't hitting threes, they're having a hard time getting into the paint and getting buckets that way because they're outsized across the board.
17:08Totally.
17:09Brandon in Orinda next up.
17:11Hi, Brandon.
17:11Thank you for calling.
17:14Hey, can you hear me?
17:15We got you.
17:17All right, sweet.
17:18Yeah, so going back to Dib's question, he asked, who do you wish would be the third scorer?
17:23And for me, that's got to be the little gator.
17:26Right?
17:27He's the cheapest.
17:28He's the youngest.
17:29We have him for the longest.
17:30We want to get excited about the future.
17:32How about the young guy?
17:34That's all I got.
17:35Yeah, Brandon.
17:36I mean, again, I'm in I'll listen on anyone mode.
17:40I don't think Will is ready for that.
17:43Like, does he feel, again, being a number three scorer means you got to be ready to kind of do that every night.
17:49Yep.
17:49And I don't think, like, Will has shown he might pop a night and then he's going to kind of disappear.
17:55I think he's still figuring it out.
17:57I will say this about Will Richard.
17:59When someone brings up GP2, my mind kind of goes to Will Richard because he's an energy guy and I think he's at least a solid enough defender.
18:08He has the makings of a good defender.
18:10But I'm a little bit more comfortable with him firing a three-pointer from the wing.
18:16No doubt.
18:17Than I am GP2.
18:18Not quite the defender that GP2 is.
18:21But a better offensive player and a guy who can shoot the three and he's shooting it at almost 40% in the time that he's been out there.
18:27But the biggest problem, and, you know, Steve will break this down without running the numbers, but if you look at minutes per game, they've got a bunch of guys in that 16 to 26-minute range.
18:41And that doesn't include pods.
18:42There's a little bit above that.
18:43But you've got, like, nine guys who are all in that, ah, we're going to play you and we're going to see.
18:49We can get you a little run.
18:50We can get you a run.
18:51Don't miss.
18:52And then we'll see.
18:52I mean, don't miss or don't blow a defensive assignment.
18:55Don't turn the ball over.
18:56Yeah, and then there's Kaminga who's averaging 26 minutes a game, but he's only played in 17 of the 27.
19:01So that's the one where, and you said it before, like, if you wanted to say who would you want your third scorer to be, it would be Kaminga.
19:11It would be Kaminga with the ha-ha, playing the right way, defending and rebounding, hitting the occasional three.
19:18Dunker spot.
19:19And he hits a three a game.
19:20He's about 33%.
19:21Hit a three, have four or five dunks, hit a few free throws, give us 15 and seven every single night.
19:31Perfect.
19:32Perfect.
19:33That's who you would want it to be.
19:34And both sides have not been able to figure that out.
19:37Right.
19:37It was super frustrating.
19:39You can't score when you're getting DNPs.
19:41Boy, that's true.
19:42That was my whole high school career.
19:44Matt.
19:45Matt.
19:46Matt on 101.
19:47Hi, Matt.
19:48Thanks for calling.
19:48How are you doing?
19:50Thanks for taking my call.
19:51Yeah.
19:52I love the rhythm and flow of your show.
19:54Appreciate it.
19:55I'm struck by the rising tide of negativity towards Steve Kerr.
20:00Mm-hmm.
20:00I'm shocked.
20:01Lute Olsen, Phil Jackson, Greg Popovich, Steve Kerr.
20:07He knows how to do the hardest thing in sports, which is get to the finish line.
20:12He knows how to get to the end of games.
20:14Even though we're struggling with that right now, he knows how to get to the end of a season.
20:20Incredible.
20:21Four championships as a coach, five more as a player.
20:25Indisputable excellence.
20:27About the current team, I see the role for Kaminga exclusively as the third scorer.
20:33He should be starting the second quarter of every game along with Projemski.
20:39I'm an avid basketball fan for over 60 years.
20:44One of my first memories is Mike Reardon and Dave Stallworth.
20:48Wow.
20:48Those 69-70 Red Holtzman Knicks starting every second quarter with the liberty to shoot the ball.
20:57We know Kaminga is a flawed player, but we know he could get double figures off the bench every night.
21:04I'd start Steph and De'Anthony Melton so that we could have on-ball defense to start the game with De'Anthony
21:13and have Buddy ready to come in and score as well with Draymond and Jimmy and QP.
21:20And then Kaminga and Projemski coming off the bench to light it up.
21:25We know Kaminga's flawed.
21:27He'd excel in that role.
21:29Matt, thanks.
21:30Appreciate it.
21:30Thank you, Matt.
21:30Yeah, I mean, look, the thing is, is to all of us, it seems like it's so simple.
21:38And after talking about this for two years, I don't think most of us still understand why that seems so hard for the Warriors.
21:49But there have got to be reasons.
21:52Like, why can't they just say, Jonathan, just come in and be crazy energy off the bench?
22:01And you can score.
22:02You can do some scoring.
22:03But it's going to be in spurts.
22:06Yeah.
22:07I'm sure they've said that.
22:09I think they've tried that.
22:10Your analogy about being a parent with children, and Kaminga's not a child and Steve's not a parent,
22:15but the whole overarching idea of you're able to tell somebody something, and our boss, he's told us a lot of things about how we should go about doing our job,
22:26and we don't all listen to what he advises.
22:29Grandy's telling me to go to break right now.
22:30You don't have to.
22:31I don't want to.
22:32I don't want to either.
22:33I was making a good point.
22:35Yeah.
22:35I love when people have that whole thing.
22:37Like, you know what you need to do?
22:38You need to sit them down and talk to them.
22:40Yeah.
22:40I could just turn your mics off, too.
22:41You wouldn't do that.
22:42Look at the power-hungry, grandiose.
22:45I control it all over here.
22:46That would backfire on your ass.
22:48Yeah.
22:49You can't spell grandiose without grandi.
22:52That's true.
22:52You can't spell it all over here.
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