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While the holidays are known as a season of giving, many B40 families in Malaysia continue to face daily struggles that don’t pause for festivities. Darren Teoh and Andrew Lim from Great Vision Charity Association share the realities on the ground and how youth can make a difference.
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00:00Hello and welcome to It's About Youth with me, Faye Kwan.
00:10Many associate the year-end holidays with the season of giving.
00:14And while this festive season may be a very joyful time for some,
00:18many families in Malaysia's B40 community continue to face daily struggles that don't pause for the holidays.
00:24So today we're looking at what poverty looks like on the ground in Malaysia, urban Malaysia,
00:29and the role that youth can play in supporting underprivileged communities.
00:34Joining me on the show today to speak a little bit more about this is Darren Thiel,
00:38President from Great Vision Charity Association,
00:41as well as Andrew Lim, a former social worker and volunteer at Great Vision Charity Association.
00:46Thank you both of you for joining me.
00:48Thanks for having us.
00:49It's a pleasure having you here, especially at this time of the year as everything is wrapping up.
00:55Firstly, Darren, to start us off for this episode,
00:57maybe you could share a little bit with us,
01:00or how would you describe the current state of poverty and urban hardship in Malaysia today?
01:06Okay.
01:06In my opinion, now, at this moment,
01:10the poverty situation is very different from like 10, 15 years ago,
01:15where a lot of families that look okay from the outside,
01:19but inside the home, you can see they are struggling, actually,
01:22because with the cost of living is so high,
01:25they have to juggle so many things in the family,
01:28like for example, transportation, education for the children,
01:32yeah, and a lot of others like maybe job struggles, yeah.
01:37So there are so many things they have to take care of, yeah.
01:40Yeah, so that's why we are here.
01:43We are helping these families, especially for the education part,
01:46yeah, to ease their burden, yeah, of shouldering and supporting the family.
01:52Yeah, that's right.
01:53It's definitely great work that the both of you do,
01:55but I'm curious, when it comes to the B40 community
01:59and the ones that you work with on the ground,
02:02what do these families typically look like?
02:04What are their backgrounds or any specific challenges or their daily realities?
02:09Actually, they are like just typical families, yeah.
02:12A lot of families, they look okay, yeah, just normal family,
02:19but with a single hope.
02:21They just want like a safe home, they want stable income, yeah,
02:27and also education for children.
02:30These are just the core important support and need from us, yeah, from the society.
02:37Other than that, you can see a lot of families nowadays,
02:41they don't really look into like, especially with the cost of living so high,
02:46they don't really look into luxury items.
02:49What they need is just the basic needs, yeah.
02:52I think food on the table.
02:53Food on the table, yeah, correct.
02:55So that is something that we hope every family can at least materialize,
03:00you know, the basic needs they want, yeah.
03:03Yeah, so with the help and support from the society,
03:06I believe this can be achieved, yeah.
03:09Just that we need everybody's help, just a little more act and support.
03:14We can make the society different, yeah.
03:17I think everyone has a role to play,
03:18and I'd like to get to that a little bit later in the interview.
03:21But Andrew, how about you?
03:22From your years volunteering and as a former social worker,
03:26what are the kind of families that you've worked with
03:28and the challenges that they face?
03:30So I think one of the issues is the isolation.
03:32People assume that help is everywhere and they often get isolated
03:36or not being looked into or overlooked into that,
03:40like government offices or NGO shelter support system.
03:44But because of those, people assume that the help is everywhere.
03:49So because of that assumption, those who are struggling,
03:53they're often quietly overlooked from it.
03:56I see.
03:57Yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:57Okay.
03:58So they don't, and the B40 families, they often don't ask for help.
04:03They hardly reach out for help because they might feel embarrassed
04:07and they might, or they may feel that, you know, I don't,
04:10this aid or this support, it's not meant for people like us.
04:13Things like that.
04:15Or sometimes they may think that they're not qualified for that
04:17because on paper, they may look stable.
04:22Yeah.
04:22Okay.
04:23That's quite an interesting insight and it goes to show that
04:25there needs to be a bit more communication and outreach
04:28to these sort of communities, right?
04:30For them to know what kind of aid that they can access.
04:33You spoke, Darren, a little bit about the rising cost of living.
04:36I was wondering if you could elaborate a little bit more about that.
04:38How has that changed over the years
04:41and affected the families that Great Vision works with?
04:43We know, I mean, even for us, groceries are expensive,
04:47property is getting more expensive.
04:49What's it like?
04:50Yeah, there are so many experts in life that, you know,
04:54all this family has to take care of.
04:56Like, for example, a few important ones like education and medical bill.
05:01That is something that a lot of families are struggling to overcome and to support.
05:08So that's the reason why we constantly need funding to help these people.
05:15And luckily, we get the support from the society,
05:19from the public to support this good cause.
05:22And you can see that with the changes of lifestyle, you know,
05:29they have been living with, we are able to give them not only material support,
05:37we are also able to give them, like, for example, mentorship, advice,
05:44and also psychology support.
05:48All these are so important that they might be able to overcome
05:53not just financial help, but also how they view, you know,
05:58the life as a human being.
06:00Yeah.
06:01That is something that we would want to change.
06:04So I believe that especially, like, this kind of interview
06:08helps to spread the news out,
06:12the message that we want to spread out to the people
06:15to really put in some effort to help this group of people.
06:21Yeah.
06:22Well, thank you for pointing out mental well-being.
06:24I think that is a topic that we, that is always brought up in our shows,
06:28especially among the youth.
06:30And, Andrew, you know, with Great Vision Charity
06:33working so much with B40 communities,
06:35but I wonder about the young people within these communities,
06:39the youths and underprivileged students,
06:43what are some of the biggest barriers that they face
06:44when it comes to personal development?
06:47When you mentioned that the biggest barriers,
06:49I think that, from my opinion, my own, sorry,
06:52from my own opinion or my observation,
06:55I think that many of the communities think that financial strain
06:58it's the biggest barriers in education or sort.
07:02But I think that that is just,
07:05financial strain is just the surface of all the other issues, you know.
07:09What really, what really,
07:12the bigger challenge is actually the emotional exhaustion,
07:15the lack of social connections or proper guidance to them.
07:20And the anxiety that comes with it as well.
07:23Yes, correct.
07:23Because this comes from many youths from the B40 families,
07:28actually, they come from,
07:30they grow up in a very survival mode from the family.
07:33So, aside from their studies,
07:34they actually have to take care of the family,
07:36taking care of the siblings.
07:38You know, some even may have,
07:39after school, have to help out with the parents' stalls.
07:42Almost sort of like forcing these kids to grow up a little bit faster, right?
07:46Taking on the role of their parents.
07:47Yes, yes, yes.
07:48So, their focus are actually,
07:51they have to divide their focus,
07:53what I'm trying to say.
07:53They have to divide their focus and not only in studies,
07:55but also, like what you said,
07:57they are forced to grow up,
07:58to be an adult.
07:59Yeah.
08:00No playtime.
08:01Correct, correct, correct.
08:03So, since young,
08:04they started to shoulder the burden of supporting the family.
08:07Yeah, to share the burdens with the family.
08:09So, yeah.
08:11Yeah.
08:11So, if you talk about personal growth or personal development,
08:15I think there is no time for them to think about growing up
08:21or think about making their future plans, you know.
08:23It became a luxury for them.
08:25It's just about getting through the day.
08:27The day, yeah.
08:28Especially when their life is already a struggle.
08:31Yeah.
08:32And often, I find that a lot of youth nowadays,
08:36they have this doubt in their mind,
08:38like, am I good enough?
08:40Yeah.
08:40So, that's how, at Great Vision,
08:43we are able to give them mentorship,
08:45yeah, to guide them,
08:47so that they can grow into a good human being.
08:51Yeah.
08:52That's our mission.
08:53Right.
08:54Yeah.
08:54Not just financial support,
08:56yeah, but also mentally and psychologically.
09:01Yeah.
09:02Yeah.
09:02Yeah.
09:02Yeah.
09:02And this is why I think it's the second point
09:05that I think can bring up it's that information gap,
09:09it's another issue, the barriers for them.
09:11They may not have access to NGOs like us
09:13or programs that government or even other NGOs,
09:17not only us,
09:18that the scholarship programs,
09:21living aid program,
09:22all this is actually,
09:23there's an information gap.
09:24that they do not know how to access to it
09:27or how to apply to it.
09:29So, I think this is another,
09:31yeah, another issue that has been facing from the youth.
09:36All right.
09:36Thank you so much for laying out the challenges.
09:39I definitely like to delve a little bit deeper into that
09:41as well as the role that youths can play.
09:43But first, let's head for a quick break.
09:45Stay with us.
09:46Okay.
09:46Welcome back to It's About Youth,
10:05where today we're looking at urban poverty
10:06and the role youth play in giving back
10:09to underprivileged communities.
10:11Now, earlier we were talking about the barriers
10:14that youth face when it comes to personal development.
10:17There are struggles with both financial
10:19and mental well-being,
10:21being forced to grow up a little bit faster
10:23and not having that childhood to just play
10:26and be a kid.
10:28Now, over at your sister NGO, Great Heart,
10:31Andrew, I understand that over the years,
10:33you've also guided many student groups
10:35to plan and execute charity projects
10:38and encourage the younger generation
10:40to be involved in charity.
10:41So, it's kind of like the youths helping fellow youths.
10:44What would you say, though,
10:45are some of the most common misunderstandings
10:49that youth have when it comes to helping communities in need?
10:53I think that many have the concept
10:56that charity has to be something,
10:58you know, something big,
11:00something dramatic,
11:01or something like...
11:02A lot of money.
11:02Correct.
11:03It involves a lot of money,
11:04doing big donations and all.
11:06But I do not completely agree with that.
11:10You know, charity is...
11:12To me, charity is about giving.
11:14And giving can be something small.
11:16It can be a small contribution,
11:18starting like cooking a meal for your friends or family,
11:21or giving a class to a child,
11:25or passing a skill to a child,
11:27you know, all these things.
11:28And sometimes,
11:31all these small contributions
11:32can actually bring a very huge impact to.
11:36It can affect,
11:37or it may even change a person's life.
11:39For instance,
11:40we have one of our founders,
11:42Mr. Rick,
11:43he once shared that
11:44one time he was at our community centre,
11:47and one old lady,
11:49we were giving her lunchbox every day.
11:51So, one day,
11:52she came,
11:53she saw Rick,
11:54and she was really touched,
11:55and she was holding Rick's hand,
11:56like,
11:56Thank you, Rick.
11:57Thank you so much.
11:58You have helped me so much.
12:00So, what I'm trying to say
12:01is that sometimes
12:01it's just as simple as giving a lunchbox,
12:04but it actually changed her life.
12:06It actually,
12:07I won't say changed,
12:08but it created an impact for her.
12:10It did something to improve her life.
12:13Yeah.
12:14And also,
12:14another misconception
12:15that I think that many students
12:17think that charity is a one-way thing.
12:20Like,
12:21once I was talking to a university student,
12:24I asked him,
12:25what is the definition of charity to you?
12:29And he told me that
12:30charity is giving
12:31or sacrificing for others.
12:34It's not completely wrong,
12:36but what I think is that
12:37it can be mutual.
12:39Charity can be mutual.
12:41Speaking for myself,
12:42coming from
12:43a background of social worker
12:47since I was 21 years old,
12:48so I've been a social worker
12:49for six years,
12:50and to me,
12:52I came from a very average family,
12:54but going on ground,
12:55actually showed me
12:57I've learned different things,
12:59meaning I've learned
12:59to appreciate more
13:00on the things that I have,
13:02or maybe things
13:03that I have not noticed yet,
13:05or the situation of my life.
13:08And secondly,
13:09it actually motivated me
13:11to do better for my life,
13:12for my family,
13:13how to change my life,
13:14because going on ground,
13:15I'm seeing a lot of B40s families,
13:18their issues,
13:20their situations.
13:21Actually,
13:21it motivates me differently.
13:23So I think it can be mutual.
13:25We learn something
13:26through their life as well.
13:28And as you said,
13:29it's not just big acts of giving.
13:31Sometimes it's just giving your time,
13:33giving up that few hours
13:34to volunteer
13:35and give back to the community.
13:37I think I'm very curious,
13:39because I loved hearing
13:40your stories,
13:41your personal insights
13:42from your time on the ground
13:44and how it's changed
13:45or touched people
13:46on both ends.
13:47I was wondering
13:48if you could share
13:49a little bit more about that.
13:51Has there been a moment
13:52that really touched
13:53or stayed with you
13:54or something that really reflects
13:56the work that you do,
13:58the power of support,
13:59mentorship,
14:00and maybe even intervention
14:01at the right time?
14:02Darren,
14:03shall we start with you?
14:04Yeah.
14:05You know,
14:06we have a program
14:07called Didikase Program.
14:08So we help the B40 families
14:11to ease the education part,
14:15especially the fees.
14:17So there was a girl
14:19from the B40 family.
14:22She wanted to give up
14:23her education
14:25because the family
14:27couldn't support it.
14:29So we were able
14:32to support her
14:34to let her further her studies
14:37until diploma.
14:38and she got
14:40pretty good results.
14:41And what she told me was
14:44after finishing her studies,
14:47she wanted to give back
14:48because she thinks
14:51she received something good
14:53from us.
14:54She also would want
14:55to give back
14:56something good
14:56to the society.
14:58That was very touching.
15:00I was very impressed
15:02with her thinking.
15:04So I tell myself,
15:07our mentorship works.
15:09That not just financially
15:11helped her,
15:12we also helped her
15:14to grow
15:14to be a better person.
15:16So you can see
15:17with the help from us,
15:19this whole thing
15:20really inspired
15:21the whole cycle
15:22of giving.
15:23it doesn't just stop there.
15:26Can you imagine
15:26if everyone
15:27who received
15:29our help
15:29do the same thing?
15:32So that will multiply
15:34and eventually
15:36the group of people
15:38that is willing
15:40to give back
15:41to the society
15:42will be growing
15:43bigger and bigger.
15:44That is something
15:45that we want to see.
15:46It shows that
15:46just one small step
15:47can really make
15:48a big difference.
15:49Andrew,
15:50how about you?
15:52Myself,
15:53there's a case
15:55a few years back
15:55that I personally
15:57helped.
15:59A little bit
16:00back story
16:00about that case
16:01is that one day
16:02my colleague and I
16:04during that time
16:04we were travelling
16:05for a main thing
16:06in Melaka.
16:07So there's this
16:08old uncle I saw
16:09he was walking
16:10next to the main road
16:11with a stick.
16:12So it's not like
16:13tongkat or anything
16:14but it's a tree stick.
16:16A branch?
16:16A branch, yes, correct.
16:17He was walking
16:18with two branch
16:19and his leg was wrapped.
16:21So after that
16:22I decided to stop
16:22and said that
16:23maybe he needed
16:24to go somewhere
16:25let me just give him
16:26a lift.
16:27So I'm like,
16:27oh okay,
16:27I went down
16:28and then I spoke to him
16:29and I said,
16:30Uncle, where are you going?
16:31He said, I'm going home.
16:32I said, Uncle, okay
16:33I give you a ride home
16:35since your leg is injured.
16:37So after that
16:39he told me that I'm home
16:41so I just need to
16:42walk into my house.
16:43So I looked on my left
16:44and I was stunned
16:45because the house
16:46looked abandoned.
16:48It was full of banana trees
16:50all the ruput rumput
16:52all this kind of thing
16:52you know.
16:53So, but anyhow
16:54I still walked him
16:55into the house
16:56and the door wasn't locked.
16:57It was already half open.
16:59So I pushed the door
17:00I walked him in
17:01I was stunned.
17:02I was really stunned.
17:04Then the house was
17:05the kuali was black
17:06it wasn't washed
17:08and there's a motorbike
17:09inside the house
17:09a lot of things
17:10and the house is smaller
17:11than a usual PPR size.
17:13So, and then I went
17:14into his room
17:15he was sleeping
17:15on a plywood.
17:16That's all he was sleeping.
17:18So, I went back
17:19to the car
17:19I took my colleague
17:20you know what
17:20let's just do a house assessment
17:22on the spot.
17:23So, my colleague and I
17:25we went and do the assessment
17:26he said we offered him
17:27to transfer him
17:28to Old Folk's home
17:30because we got to know
17:31that he's actually single
17:32he don't have any
17:32next of kin.
17:33So we said
17:34you want to go to Old Folk?
17:35He cried
17:35he started crying
17:36because he's been
17:37wanting to go
17:38to Old Folk's home
17:38but he knows
17:40that the procedure
17:40is really complicated
17:42so he don't want
17:44to be a burden
17:45to anyone.
17:46He has a niece
17:46he has a niece
17:47that brings him
17:48to clean his wound
17:49every week.
17:51So we went
17:51the following day
17:52we went there
17:53you know
17:53the following day
17:54we went and picked him up
17:55to visit the Old Folk's home
17:57but he decided not to
17:58because it's too far
18:00it's not convenient
18:00for his niece
18:01to send him
18:02to a hospital
18:03every week.
18:05So,
18:05but it was
18:07the first time
18:07that I cried
18:08I look at the case
18:09that I cried
18:10yeah
18:10but we after that
18:12decided to refurbish
18:13his house
18:13we got pest control
18:14to clean everything out
18:15you know
18:16to bottom all the
18:17rumput and stuff
18:18but this was a case
18:19that really motivated
18:20me a lot
18:21or made me think
18:23of why I chose
18:24social work
18:25as my professional
18:26career path
18:27during that time
18:28because I felt
18:29that charity
18:29isn't about just
18:31like what I mentioned
18:33isn't just about
18:34giving donation
18:34or doing events
18:35sometimes it's about
18:36the timing
18:36it's about showing up
18:38at the right time
18:39helping the right person
18:40providing the right help
18:41that may change
18:42his life
18:43because after that
18:44we also did a follow up
18:45we've been giving him
18:46groceries every month
18:47so I think
18:48yeah
18:49okay I hope he's doing
18:50well
18:51he's doing well right now
18:52he's doing really well
18:53right now
18:54because we
18:54I did a video
18:56online and it went viral
18:57and some people
18:58actually went and
18:59visit him as well
19:00and gave him some help
19:01actually there are so many
19:03inspiring stories
19:04because we have been
19:06established for 12 years
19:09and every year we have
19:12so many programs
19:12so many activities
19:14we have seen so many
19:16people that need help
19:18so yeah
19:21if you ask us
19:23about stories
19:24we can share
19:25the whole day
19:25we can go on
19:26and on
19:28unfortunately
19:29it's a half an hour
19:30program
19:30but thank you for sharing
19:32and it really shows
19:33you know
19:33whether it is
19:34providing tertiary education
19:35for a student
19:36helping out
19:37an uncle on the roadside
19:38you were really there
19:39at the right place
19:40at the right time
19:40and helped to change
19:41their lives
19:42and especially
19:43you know
19:43for you Andrew
19:44you've mentioned
19:45that you were
19:45a social worker
19:46since you were 21
19:47and I wonder
19:48if other youths
19:49can be motivated
19:51or encouraged
19:51to follow
19:52in your footsteps
19:53or Darren
19:54for you to
19:54be able to
19:55mentor more
19:58youths
19:58to be able
19:59to do something
20:00similar
20:00for those
20:03who are sceptical
20:04about this
20:05what do you have
20:06to say
20:07why should youth
20:08care about
20:09poverty
20:09why should they
20:10care about
20:11inequality
20:11helping out
20:12what sort of
20:13unique strengths
20:14or perspectives
20:14do you think
20:15they bring
20:15to the table
20:16they should care
20:16definitely
20:17okay
20:19youth nowadays
20:20they are
20:20very different
20:21they are
20:24very creative
20:25they have
20:26a different view
20:27of problems
20:28they can have
20:31a very refreshing
20:32solution
20:34on
20:34problem solving
20:36skills
20:37so
20:38with that
20:41we should
20:42include them
20:43in every aspect
20:44of the current
20:45society problems
20:46because they have
20:48a different way
20:49of solving
20:50the problems
20:51so we need to
20:53talk to them
20:53more often
20:54we need to
20:55have time
20:56to spend
20:57with them
20:57understand
20:58their needs
20:59to know
21:00them
21:01to keep
21:02educating them
21:03about
21:03why the society
21:05need them
21:06why we need
21:07their help
21:08to make this world
21:09a better place
21:10so this is
21:12not just
21:12a charity
21:13future
21:14this is
21:15sorry
21:16this is not
21:17just a charity
21:17cause
21:18this is
21:19our future
21:20it's our nation
21:21future
21:22so we need
21:23them
21:23to
21:24together with us
21:25to form
21:26a better nation
21:27yeah
21:28that's how
21:29we often
21:29have a lot
21:30of programs
21:31to include
21:32the youth
21:33yeah
21:33so that
21:35they can
21:35understand
21:36what we are
21:37doing
21:37they can
21:38get involved
21:38they can
21:39also
21:40participate
21:41and
21:42get involved
21:43in the
21:43arranging
21:44and
21:45coordinating
21:45our work
21:47yeah
21:48so with that
21:49the involvement
21:50of this youth
21:51they get to
21:53have interest
21:53yeah
21:54how this
21:56kind of
21:56charity
21:56work helps
21:57you know
21:58in
21:58growing their
21:59personal
22:00growth
22:02that's how
22:03we
22:04have all
22:05these programs
22:06to
22:06cultivate
22:08the youth
22:10involvement
22:12yeah
22:12and I'm
22:13curious
22:14what does
22:14meaningful
22:15volunteering
22:16among youth
22:17or meaningful
22:18youth involvement
22:19look like
22:19for you
22:20is there
22:20anything
22:21that they
22:21can do
22:22beyond
22:22just the
22:22you know
22:23one-time
22:23charity drive
22:24something more
22:25long-term
22:26yeah
22:26definitely
22:26there are
22:27more long-term
22:28programs
22:30that we
22:31encourage them
22:32to take part
22:32yeah
22:33doing a charity
22:34program
22:34it's not just
22:34like going
22:35for one event
22:36take pictures
22:38you know
22:39posting social media
22:40and announcing
22:41that oh
22:41I do something
22:42good
22:42it's not just
22:43it's not like that
22:44yeah
22:45it's beyond that
22:46yeah
22:47so it has to be
22:49constant commitment
22:50you have to show
22:52up in the
22:53programs
22:53yeah
22:54you have to
22:54spend some
22:55time to
22:55understand the
22:56needs of the
22:57needies
22:57yeah
22:58so all these
22:59are important
23:00as a volunteer
23:02yeah
23:03so in order
23:04to cultivate
23:05that
23:06we
23:06our program
23:07is actually
23:08very fun
23:08yeah
23:09we don't just
23:09go there to
23:10help people
23:10that's it
23:11we go there
23:12to help people
23:13we want them
23:14not just to
23:14spend a day
23:15with the
23:16needies
23:17yeah
23:17we
23:18have a program
23:19for them to
23:20get involved
23:21you know
23:21in the long term
23:22for example
23:23helping kids
23:25you know
23:26in their studies
23:27it's not just
23:28one time
23:28one hour
23:30teaching
23:31yeah
23:32so our warranty
23:33also spend
23:34like weekly
23:34monthly
23:35you know
23:36to give them
23:37free tuitions
23:37yeah
23:38to give them
23:39like mentorship
23:39so along the way
23:41actually they both
23:42learn
23:42they both grow
23:44yeah
23:44so they see
23:45the value in that
23:46yeah
23:46that is something
23:47that we want
23:48yeah
23:48and for
23:49those who
23:51are watching
23:51this show today
23:52some of them
23:53may be inspired
23:54or youth
23:55especially
23:56they may want
23:57to help
23:57but they don't
23:57know where to start
23:58both of you
24:00are the best
24:01people to ask
24:01for this
24:02what sort of
24:03opportunities
24:03are available
24:04for them to
24:04contribute
24:05and really
24:05make a difference
24:06maybe
24:06Andrew
24:07we start with you
24:07I think that
24:10you can start
24:11with us
24:11we are a great group
24:13of young volunteers
24:14we have a lot
24:15of young volunteers
24:15with us
24:16which is why
24:17our events
24:18and all
24:18is usually
24:19very hyped up
24:19very happy
24:20you know
24:20very fun going
24:21so even the older
24:23volunteers
24:24actually enjoy
24:25spending time
24:26with all of us
24:26so but I think
24:28no matter where you're at
24:29which NGO
24:30youth want to join
24:32you know
24:32it's important
24:34to find
24:34or choose
24:35the right NGO
24:36to be attached with
24:37or to participate
24:38in
24:39because
24:40I think that
24:42the right NGO
24:43has the right protocol
24:45has the right SOP
24:47to conduct
24:49their programs
24:49for instance
24:50like at our NGO
24:51Great Heart
24:52or Great Vision
24:52either way
24:53you know
24:54we have very strict
24:55SOP
24:56to choose
24:57or filter out
24:58our beneficiaries
24:59so this can
25:00actually ensure
25:01that we are
25:02helping the right
25:03people
25:04and making
25:05our action
25:06or our giving back
25:07it's going towards
25:09the right direction
25:10so we don't help
25:11the wrong party
25:12as well
25:12or letting people
25:13or helping people
25:16who are trying
25:16to take advantage
25:17of it
25:18that's a good point
25:19to raise
25:20ensuring that
25:20the funds
25:21really go to
25:21those who need it
25:22and Darren
25:23yourself
25:24yeah
25:24I totally agree
25:26with Andrew
25:27so actually
25:28we have four NGOs
25:29we have Great Vision
25:31Great Heart Charity
25:33and we have
25:34Earth Warrior
25:34if the youth
25:36they are
25:37into ESG
25:39they love
25:40recycling
25:41they love
25:42our Mother Earth
25:43so they can join
25:44our Earth Warrior
25:45we have a lot of
25:47every week
25:48we have activities
25:49street cleaning
25:51activities
25:51so we encourage
25:53people
25:53the youth
25:55especially
25:55to join us
25:56those with the energy
25:57to get out
25:58get out in the morning
26:00go out
26:01on the street
26:02we pick up rubbish
26:03and also
26:05we have one
26:06coffin donation
26:06so we have
26:08four NGOs
26:08and of course
26:09all these NGOs
26:11are approachable
26:12the youth
26:14they can join us
26:15depending on
26:16what they want
26:16to achieve
26:17so I believe
26:19everyone's needs
26:20are different
26:21so we have
26:22these four NGOs
26:23to cater for
26:23everyone
26:24we also have
26:26a Harapan Mulia
26:27campaign
26:28ongoing now
26:28that is to raise
26:29funds for education
26:30for next year
26:31so we are
26:32aiming to raise
26:33500,000
26:34to help 40 students
26:36and also
26:37to establish
26:38a lot of
26:38charity clubs
26:39in schools
26:40and universities
26:42so
26:43with the fund
26:44that we raise
26:45I believe
26:45that will benefit
26:46a lot of youth
26:47so I hope
26:49that with
26:50the audience
26:51everyone in the public
26:52will be able
26:53to join us
26:54hand in hand
26:54to make this
26:55achievable
26:56so yeah
26:57all right
26:58and let's hope
26:58this interview
26:59has inspired
27:00some to come forward
27:01and help with
27:02a great vision
27:02great heart
27:03thank you so much
27:04to both of you
27:05for sharing your insights
27:06and inspiring stories
27:07today
27:07I've been speaking
27:08to Darren Theo
27:09and Andrew Lim
27:10from Great Vision
27:11Charity Association
27:12this has been
27:13It's About Youth
27:14with me
27:15Faikuan
27:15thank you for watching
27:16and see you next time
27:17I'll see you next time
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