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00:00And to get back at Lisa, she weaponized a watch.
00:03It's Watch What Happens Live with Heather Gay and Matt Rogers now.
00:17Hey everybody, welcome to Watch What Happens Live.
00:20I am your host, Andy Cohen.
00:21We are live in the Bravo Clubhouse during the most wonderful time of the year.
00:25So please welcome my guest, real housewife of Salt Lake City, Heather Gay.
00:30And Lisa may have imported her glam from Athens tonight,
00:34but my next guest is flying his lubed-up sleigh to a city near you
00:39for his holiday spectacular Christmas in December.
00:42Get your tickets now and give it up for our pal Matt Rogers.
00:45Hi Matt, great to see you.
00:48Hey folks, do me a favor, pick up your phone and get on www.hl.tv right now
00:53because we have lots of polls coming your way in just a second.
00:57Don't forget to send me your questions on threads at BravoAndy
01:00and tweet me at Andy for Heather and Matt all night long.
01:04Great to see both of you.
01:06We're happy.
01:06We have two number one questions for you, Heather.
01:09Oh, really?
01:09Okay.
01:10Why is there no audio video from the plane?
01:12Oh, big one, yeah.
01:14Is there none?
01:15Right now?
01:16Yeah, I'm asking you.
01:16I think I was like teasing at you later.
01:18Yes.
01:19Well, I think you have to tune into a reunion.
01:21I think we really nailed down on a lot of those reasons.
01:24Right.
01:24Also, I don't know if anyone remembers the spinner van
01:27where we attacked Brittany for recording us.
01:30We don't record each other.
01:31It didn't go well the time they did it.
01:33That's a very important point.
01:35Especially in times of crisis.
01:37Isaac from Texas for Heather.
01:38This is a big question that we got recurring.
01:41Why is Meredith calling you a liar such a big deal
01:44when you withheld the black eye information in season three?
01:48Well, withholding information is a lie of omission.
01:53Okay?
01:54Okay.
01:55I just also...
01:56Meredith, you're not the only lawyer around, apparently.
01:59I mean, Meredith has never called me a liar before,
02:04and she's never had reason to.
02:06And, like, me protecting myself
02:08in a really, really tumultuous situation
02:10with a pretty violent person
02:12is very, very different than her looking at me
02:15when I saw something with my own eyes and saying,
02:17you're my friend, but you're also lying about me,
02:19when I wasn't.
02:20All right.
02:21By the way, I'm so shipping your relationship
02:24with Below Deck's own Frasier.
02:26And how is he doing since his heart issue at BravoCon?
02:32He's doing much better.
02:33Good.
02:34And I know a lot of people are watching
02:35that care about him.
02:36Thank you so much.
02:37He's doing a lot better.
02:39Don't vape.
02:40Don't do it.
02:40Yes.
02:41Don't vape.
02:42Guess what, y'all?
02:43I have great news for you.
02:45It is time to...
02:46Work the Bible!
02:48Here we go.
02:49We asked this before, but we are asking again.
02:52Now who do you believe about the plane?
02:54Meredith and Lisa or everybody else?
02:57Matt Rogers, who do you believe?
02:59I think it would be pretty crazy if six women were all lying.
03:03If you guys are all lying, that's a crazy red flag about you.
03:08I just don't believe it.
03:09So I believe them.
03:09The audience is on your side too, 91%.
03:12Next, we saw this happen again tonight.
03:15I want to know, does Lisa speak for Meredith too often?
03:18Yes or no?
03:19Heather, what do you think?
03:20Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
03:22I know at the reunion, every time one of them started to speak for the other,
03:26the rest of you were like, let them say it on their own.
03:29Yes.
03:30The audience is saying yes, absolutely.
03:33Stay on www.hl.tv for this one.
03:36We want to know what Mary...
03:37We know what Mary Cosby thinks, but tell us,
03:40are Cartier watches for grandmas, yes or no?
03:43I don't think so.
03:45No, you think no.
03:46No, Bowen Yang wears two.
03:47Bowen Yang wears two.
03:50They're definitely not for grandmas.
03:52They're for cool, chic, fashion forward people.
03:53Timothee Chalamet wears two.
03:55Bowen Yang wears two.
03:56Yeah, Cartier's cool.
03:58The audience is saying no, they are not for me, ma.
04:00Thank you, audience.
04:01I am excited for this next fall.
04:03Who is more competitive, Angie or Lisa?
04:06I mean, this came up tonight.
04:08Who do you think is more competitive?
04:10Heather?
04:11Lisa.
04:12You think Lisa.
04:13What do you think?
04:14Yeah, I mean, I think Angie is very playful.
04:17I think Lisa is actually territorial.
04:19Oh, I love that.
04:20The audience is agreeing with y'all right there.
04:23Thank you very much.
04:25And Lisa is so competitive,
04:27I bet she will love winning that poll.
04:29Speaking of, whose style would you copy?
04:32Angie's, Brittany's, Bronwyn's, Heather's,
04:35Lisa's, Mary's, Meredith, or Whitney?
04:37Matt Rogers, whose style would you copy?
04:40Were you a lady?
04:42I think Heather always looks amazing.
04:43Okay, beyond Heather.
04:44But I would say that in terms of how much fun she's having,
04:48Bronwyn, I think, looks great.
04:50But Lisa always is very chic.
04:51Okay, and Bronwyn is winning this one.
04:53Thank you very much.
04:55So you're going to wear, like, an inflatable tube as well.
04:57I would wear Angie's sunglasses, I would say that.
05:00Well, you said Bronwyn.
05:00Mary said Heather and Bronwyn have bucket-shaped faces tonight.
05:04So our next poll on WWHL.TV is, do you have a bucket face, yes or no?
05:10I don't really understand what you mean.
05:11Matt, do you think you have a bucket face?
05:12Do I have a bucket face?
05:14Heather, do you think Matt has a bucket face?
05:16I think Matt has a smart face and a handsome face.
05:20If that means he's a bucket, then welcome.
05:22The audience at home says they are not bucket face.
05:25Thank you very much.
05:27Next, who of the Salt Lake City women had your favorite reunion look?
05:31Angie Bronwyn, Heather, Lisa, Mary, Meredith, or Whitney.
05:35Matt Rogers, do you have a favorite?
05:37Angie's a big winner on this.
05:37I actually do think Angie has the best look.
05:39I think Angie's...
05:40Oh, I'm doing better than I thought.
05:42You all looked amazing, and I loved your look, Heather.
05:44You did, you did.
05:45Well, they said vibrant hues and face, so I think I nailed it on the brief.
05:50I think so, too, and Angie's winning this poll.
05:51I think collectively all the women look better than they've ever looked.
05:54Okay, moving over to Vanderpump Rules.
05:56Did Kim have the right to be upset tonight, yes or no?
06:00Matt, you haven't seen it yet, but I got to tell you something.
06:02I don't know who Kim is, but she had the right to be upset.
06:05And she's on Bravo, bitch.
06:07She had the right to be upset.
06:09She should tear it up.
06:10The audience is agreeing with you.
06:12Thank you very much.
06:13And does Demi have a resting bitch face, yes or no?
06:17I think Demi...
06:17Matt, take a look at Demi.
06:19Does she have a resting bitch face?
06:20Is that her resting face?
06:21Yeah.
06:22If so, then yes.
06:23I can diagnose Demi with resting bitch face.
06:26And the audience is agreeing with you.
06:29We don't even need to close this out.
06:30Finally, of the Pump Rules boys,
06:33who would you want to send a good morning text to?
06:35Chris, Jason, Marcus, or Shane?
06:37Matt Rogers, look at those little pictures.
06:40There are some very hot guys.
06:42I'm going to say all four at once are pretty great.
06:45By the way, a few of them are on OnlyFans you might be interested in.
06:48Are you serious?
06:49And it becomes a major story point.
06:50So I think you're going to want to start watching.
06:52I'm going to go with Chris because the audience feels like...
06:57Yes.
06:58Okay, there you go.
06:59I think Jason looks smart.
06:59Thank you very much.
07:01It's Chris.
07:01And thank you for voting, everybody.
07:04Have you ever found yourself watching the Price is Right or Wheel of Fortune
07:07and thought to yourself,
07:09huh, this is fun, but not gay enough?
07:11Well, guess what?
07:12You're in luck.
07:13Over at the bar, it's Matt's co-host of Game Show.
07:16Coming to a city near you, Dave Mazzoni.
07:19Hey, Dave.
07:21Great to see you, pal.
07:22As 2025 mercifully grinds to a halt,
07:25we are being inundated with infinite year-end lists.
07:28But the only one you really need to care about right now
07:31is Matt Rogers' do's and don'ts of the Bravo multiverse.
07:34So as a spin on the Lost Culture Classic, let's play.
07:37Do you think so, honey?
07:39We're going to pepper you, Matt, with leading housewives questions.
07:42Let us know if each premise makes you say,
07:44I do or don't think so, honey, and why or why not,
07:47starting with Salt Lake City.
07:49Do you believe people with square faces are dingbats like Mary Cosby believes?
07:54I don't think so, honey.
07:55I don't discriminate based on face shape.
07:57Do you think Meredith will ever change her stance on what went down on the plane?
08:01I don't think so, honey.
08:02I think if it's been this way so far, it'll remain this way.
08:06Do you think anything really happened between Heather and Captain Jason?
08:09I know so, honey, that it did.
08:11Do you think Britney and Jared are meant to go the distance as a couple?
08:17I don't wish so, honey, but I do think so, honey.
08:20However, I will say I think that Britney's star is rising
08:24and she's going to outgrow everything right now.
08:27I think Britney's heading to Broadway.
08:29I think she's headed for a snowflake.
08:31She's a star.
08:32Beverly Hills, even just after the premiere,
08:35do you think Rachel Zoe is a good addition to the group?
08:37Absolutely.
08:38I do think so, honey.
08:39Wow, what a pro.
08:39I mean, I think we have a new Supreme, Andy.
08:41Do you think Sutton isn't being completely honest
08:44about her fallouts with Garcelle and Avi?
08:46I don't think so, honey.
08:48That honesty is the issue here.
08:50I think that she's maybe being honest,
08:52but I don't think she's really understanding
08:54why Garcelle didn't feel supportive.
08:56Because if you think about it,
08:58like, she was sitting at that reunion
09:00and Erika looked her in the eyes and said,
09:02you're boring.
09:03And then two seconds later, Sutton was like,
09:06oh, I really, like, think me and Erika
09:08are on the right road.
09:09Right.
09:09And if you put that in context
09:10with everything Erika had said to Garcelle,
09:12I can understand why Garcelle was upset.
09:15Potomac, Monique's return.
09:16Yay or nay?
09:17Absolutely.
09:17I do think so, honey.
09:19And you know what?
09:19I'm such a diehard Candice Dillard Bassett fan.
09:22I never thought I'd be excited to see Monique,
09:24but I love Monique.
09:25Potomac, is Giselle being too hard on Angel?
09:29I don't think so, honey,
09:30if you think that you're going to come into Potomac
09:32and Giselle's not going to be hard on her.
09:34Thank you very much, Matt Rogers.
09:37Very true.
09:38Nailed it.
09:39Very true.
09:39Tonight, Angie educated the women in the art
09:41of having one's under-eye fat pads removed.
09:45But since Heather is only five days removed
09:48from the Salt Lake City reunion,
09:49I want her to tease who and what
09:51we should all have our eyes on with reunion.
09:54I have questions.
09:55Answer with the cast of your friends.
09:58Got it.
09:59I'm going to have questions.
09:59Whose feet were held to the fire the most?
10:03Meredith.
10:04Who shed the most tears?
10:07Bronwyn.
10:09Who got the most heated?
10:12Lisa.
10:13Who has the most growth to do after the reunion?
10:17All of us.
10:19Do you feel closer with anyone specific after the reunion?
10:29Whitney.
10:30Whitney.
10:30Whitney.
10:31Oh, that's good.
10:32Whitney was an MVP.
10:33That's good.
10:33Whitney was an MVP.
10:34I was really, really proud of her.
10:35Who busted out the most receipts?
10:38Angie Kay.
10:38Yes, she did, in the form of a scroll.
10:41I love her.
10:42Okay.
10:44Who delivered the most genuine apology?
10:48This might be controversial, but I feel like Meredith at some moments, she did.
10:53All right.
10:53Thank you very much, Heather.
10:55Coming up, we have a lot more with Heather Gay and Matt Rogers.
10:58Here's her stop and by later this week.
11:00Don't go anywhere.
11:03Andy, you're so shady.
11:05Andy, you're so shady.
11:07Oh, my God.
11:17Are you the dead socialite with the funeral tomorrow?
11:20Maxine Delacour?
11:21You know who I am?
11:22Oh, this is bad.
11:25Oh, this is so beyond bad.
11:27This is a tragedy.
11:29This is Carmen.
11:30I really can't have another person crying over me.
11:32No, I'm not.
11:33A very close friend of mine from out of town is supposed to attend your funeral tomorrow,
11:38but if you're alive, then, well, I guess he's not coming to Palm Beach after all.
11:43That's right.
11:44That was Matt Rogers and Palm Royale.
11:47New episode of Shop Wednesdays on Apple TV.
11:50You haven't seen that yet?
11:51I haven't seen that yet.
11:52No, it comes out Christmas Eve, I think, my episode.
11:54See that?
11:55Welcome back to Watch What Happens Live.
11:57I'm Andy Cohen, live in the Bravo Clubhouse here with Real Housewife of Salt Lake City,
12:01Heather Gay.
12:03You haven't watched Surviving Mormonism on Peacock yet.
12:07I highly recommend it.
12:09Kudos to you, Heather Gay.
12:11Over at the bar, it's Matt's pal, Dave Mazzoni.
12:14All you red sauce queens, check out the Tomato Party, Dave's event and catering company,
12:19which operates nationwide.
12:21Drinking Game Reminder, if you're 21 or over any time you hear this word, drink until you're
12:26looking for something bucket-shaped to puke in.
12:30Let's take questions from our fans.
12:32Here's Nanny from Massachusetts in our studio audience with a question for Heather.
12:37Hey, Nanny.
12:38Hello.
12:38This is a dream.
12:39Sorry.
12:40This is very exciting.
12:41You're a dream, and I love your festivities.
12:42Beautiful.
12:42Well, you know, in my festive era.
12:44Yeah, good.
12:44Okay.
12:45Yeah.
12:45There you go.
12:46So, okay, Heather, if you had to choose, if Meredith gave you an ultimatum right now
12:50to choose between her and Brittany, who would you choose?
12:54Brittany.
12:55Because friends that give you ultimatums aren't friends.
12:57Oh, okay.
12:58Exactly.
12:59All right.
13:00Okay.
13:01Good answer.
13:02Our virtual fan Jillian from D.C. has a question for Matt.
13:06Hey, Jillian, Matt's tour is heading to D.C. in a couple days.
13:10What's your question?
13:11Hi, everyone.
13:14You look amazing.
13:15My question is for Matt.
13:17After having Lady Gaga, Jennifer Lopez, Jennifer Lawrence, and Reese Witherspoon on Las Culturistas
13:25this year, who are you setting your sights on to be a guest in 2026?
13:30You know, we just got confirmation that we have some unbelievable guests even just for January.
13:35So, check out what's going on then.
13:39Just a rogues gallery of people who refuse to do Watch What Happens Live.
13:45My bucket list is Celine Dion, only because I had my-
13:50Oh, she's done Watch What Happens Live.
13:51Yeah, I had my, like, ultimate icon, Mariah, on, and so I want that for Bowen.
13:55And so Celine Dion would be it.
13:58I would think Taylor is high on your list.
14:00I always feel like Taylor, if she's going to come on, like, it would have to be, like,
14:04the second to last episode of Las Culturistas ever.
14:07Right.
14:07We love Taylor.
14:08Yes.
14:09Okay, thank you, fans.
14:11Heather, um, Aaron from Rancho Cucamonga wants to know why you kept that mattress for 20 years.
14:18Because-
14:18You love a good mattress.
14:20Honestly, like, I didn't know you were supposed to replace him often.
14:22Yeah, right.
14:23It's a big deal, you know?
14:24Like, it's just, like, the last thing on my list, honestly.
14:27Matt, Nina S. wants to know which housewife or Bravo Liberty you totally hit it off with at BravoCon.
14:32Can I tell you, um, one of my favorite people in the entire, like, Bravo sphere is Amanda Petula.
14:40I love her.
14:41Yes.
14:41I love seeing her.
14:42I hit it off with her in Cannes.
14:44I love her and Kyle.
14:45I mean, I just adore them, and I adore her, and I think she's going to have, like, a Paige-esque superstar moment.
14:51I adore her.
14:52Totally agree.
14:53After arguing about who had the first Cartier watch, Lisa told Angie, it's not a competition.
15:00And in the same breath, mention that her Porsche was newer than Angie's and the first of its color in all of Utah.
15:07So let's play a competitive game of Bravo First Calls.
15:10Feels like the first time.
15:12We are putting 60 seconds on the clock to pose rapid-fire trivia questions to my guests as graphics of Angie and Lisa's faces rain down on the clubhouse.
15:20It's not a competition.
15:21If my guests can work together to get a combined seven questions right before the time runs out,
15:26they will win the game and avoid being crushed under thousands of Angie's and Lisa's.
15:32Okay, 60 seconds on the clock.
15:34Here we go.
15:35Heather, who was the first Real Housewife to walk off a reunion, Danielle Staub or Ramona Singer?
15:41Ramona Singer.
15:42That's correct.
15:43Matt, who was the first Real Housewife to get divorced on the show, Gina Keough or Countess Luanne?
15:47Gina.
15:48That's correct.
15:49Heather, who was the first Real Housewife to ask for a divorce on camera?
15:52Tamara Jack.
15:53That's correct.
15:54Matt, what was the name of the first super yacht on Below Deck, Honor or Valor?
15:59Oh, sorry, Frase.
16:00I'm going to say Honor.
16:02That's correct.
16:02Oh, yeah.
16:03Who was the first Real Housewife to appear as a charter guest on Below Deck?
16:07I feel like it was Cynthia Bailey.
16:09That is correct.
16:11Matt, where was the first Salt Lake City international cast trip?
16:15Oh, my God, was it, uh, uh, uh, um, Barb, uh, oh, my God, um, um, um, um, Monica's hometown.
16:21It was, um.
16:21Puerto Vallarta?
16:22No, no, it was Barb, but, uh, Bermuda.
16:25Bermuda?
16:25Bermuda!
16:26Yes, Bermuda.
16:26Wow, one more.
16:28Heather, who was the first Real Housewife to skip a reunion, Jacqueline the Reader or Adrienne Maloof?
16:33Adrienne Maloof.
16:34It was Jacqueline.
16:35What?
16:36Matt, which series, oh, wow.
16:38No, give me that question.
16:39Oh, wow.
16:39Give me the question.
16:40The question is, which series from the Bravo Vault premiered first, Flipping Out or The Rachel Zoe Project?
16:45I don't know what Flipping Out is.
16:47Uh, I'm going to say The Rachel Zoe Project.
16:48It was Flipping Out, okay.
16:50Since our pals at T-Mobile love to hook up their members with unforgettable experiences,
16:56they have taken over our clubhouse by filling it with 20 lucky members.
17:00To get the holiday season started, T-Mobile is gifting all you guys and everyone else in our audience
17:08a great bag of goodies.
17:11What?
17:13It's true.
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17:16Wow.
17:16Thanks, Gay Shark.
17:20Those are the T-Mobile goodies.
17:23Oh, Gay Shark, you're the best.
17:26After the break, we have a festive holiday surprise.
17:29We will be right back.
17:31You're the best, Gay Shark.
17:32Hey, everybody.
17:46Welcome back to The T-Mobile.
17:48I am Andy here with Heather, Matt, and Dave at the bar.
17:52Hi.
17:55Okay, Heather, um, Mariana Kay said, I mean this in the nicest way possible.
18:01But do you think Lisa, do you think Lisa has an addiction to glam?
18:06Why would you want to be stuck in hair and makeup if you could be roaming around Santorini?
18:10Well, that's why I was mean to her.
18:14But I, no, she, listen, she doesn't have an addiction to glam, but like, she's built her
18:20persona on looking good and flawless all the time, and she has bad vision, so she can't
18:25do her glam by herself.
18:27God bless her.
18:27So I understand, and I, like, I endorse it, but just get your glam there early.
18:32Right.
18:32Be on time.
18:33We love you.
18:33We want you at the party.
18:34Frankie H emailed Matt.
18:36What was Lady Gaga's exact message to you and Bowen after she reached out after your performance
18:41of Abracadabra at the Culture Awards?
18:43She loved it.
18:44She said she was proud of us, and that made the whole thing worth it because I think that
18:48was the number one thing that was making me really nervous about the whole thing, was
18:52getting it right because I knew that she would see it because she was so close to Bowen.
18:55And she loved it.
18:57She reached out, and she said she was proud of us, and that was amazing.
18:59Wow.
19:00Yeah.
19:00That's cool.
19:01She's a really amazing class act person.
19:04Yes.
19:04She's so cool.
19:06Wow.
19:07Well, in Matt's timeless holiday classic, Rockefeller Santa, he sings with reverence about
19:13laying eyes on New York's most iconic Christmas tree.
19:16Now it's my esteemed honor to unveil another evergreen beauty that's both more low-rent
19:22and more high-concept, our clubhouse Christmas tree.
19:25Allow me to present this year's ornaments, which we will be adding to the tree tonight.
19:33We have Meredith Marks engaging with the BravoCon DJ booth.
19:38Next, we have Jessie Lally's Droopy Jewels.
19:44Wow.
19:46They're small.
19:47These will be going on the tree.
19:50Okay, next up, we had to showcase Brittany Bateman's high body count hair.
19:56Oh, my gosh.
19:58Stuck to the thing.
19:59Favorite ornament already.
20:00Okay, this is so good.
20:02Okay, get a load of our custom Jessie Solomon sucking a toe ornament.
20:08Oh, my God, Jessie.
20:11That is so funny.
20:13Look at the toe.
20:14Ew.
20:15He might have sucked a toe.
20:16Maybe.
20:17Oh, my God.
20:18Okay, our final ornament is, um, okay, wait.
20:22What's that?
20:22This is the Haitian motician's coffee maker, of course.
20:28Miami is a gift from God.
20:31It should win a Pulitzer.
20:32I totally agree.
20:33Happy holidays from the clubhouse.
20:35I want to thank Heather Gay, Matt Rogers, and Dave Mazzoni for being here.
20:40The word of the night was Meredith.
20:42We said it 13 times if you were playing on a juggling game.
20:45No driving.
20:46Tomorrow night, Molly O'Connell and Chef Rozier are here after Southern Tron.
20:52Watch your after show on Facebook Live right now.
20:54Good night, everybody.
20:56See you on the radio tomorrow morning, and I'll be right back here tomorrow night.
21:00Aw, that's sweet.
21:01Congratulations.
21:03Woo-hoo!
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21:04Woo-hoo!
21:04Wow!
21:05I'll be right back here tomorrow night.
21:05Yes, you are a kid.
21:06Someone's favorite from the career sister told me.
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21:20All right, now.
21:21Sound of music.
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