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00:00:00Now, ladies and gentlemen, let's have a welcome from Patrick Kielty.
00:00:30Thank you very much.
00:00:44Wow.
00:00:45Thank you so much.
00:00:47Hello.
00:00:48Welcome.
00:00:49Welcome to the Elite Live Show.
00:00:52We are live from Dublin.
00:00:55We have another crock and line-up for you tonight.
00:00:59I have no idea what that was, but thank you.
00:01:02We are opening the live line with this new host.
00:01:05Kieran Cuddihy is going to be here.
00:01:08Leader of the Social Democrats Holly Kearns will be joining us.
00:01:13We will have music from the brilliant Nell Meskell.
00:01:17You are in for a treat.
00:01:20Comedian Jarlith Regan will be here with his guide to gobshites.
00:01:28Apparently, if you don't know one, that means you could be one yourself.
00:01:33Also tonight, as last week was Halloween, by my calculations, that means that there's
00:01:38only 28 sleeps until this year's toy show.
00:01:44It all happens.
00:01:45It all happens on Friday, the 5th of December.
00:01:54Our elves are on the road to tell a lucky kid tonight that they're going to be appearing
00:01:59on this year's toy show.
00:02:01So, if you have someone in your house who has sent in an audition tape tonight and you
00:02:06recognise where this is, I mean, why would you not?
00:02:10Oh, no, that's closer.
00:02:11OK, that's better.
00:02:12We could be knocking on your door.
00:02:14I mean, if you're from Nace, Limerick, New Bridge, Dublin.
00:02:19But before all that, there are many events that have divided Ireland through history.
00:02:25The Battle of the Boyne, the Anglo-Irish Treaty, me being allowed to host this show.
00:02:30However, none come close to win Roy Keane and Mick McCarthy split the nation down the
00:02:37middle before the 2002 World Cup in Japan.
00:02:41I want us to be winners.
00:02:43Can't all be Roy Keane.
00:02:45Do you think the Portuguese are eating cheese sandwiches?
00:02:48I'm trying my best, Roy.
00:02:51Anything you want to get off your chest?
00:02:53The captain can't speak up for the lads, who will?
00:02:55The lads are good, Roy.
00:02:57You call this little setup you've got going on here man management?
00:03:02That's all sorted for tomorrow, boss.
00:03:04What is?
00:03:05The banana boat.
00:03:09It's so good.
00:03:10It is so, so good.
00:03:12My first guest tonight are the award-winning actors who have brought the drama of Cy Pan to
00:03:16the big screen in one of the most anticipated movies of the year.
00:03:19Would you please welcome Eina Hardwick and Steve Coogan?
00:03:21CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:03:22CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:03:24CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:03:26Welcome to the show, Eina, welcome to the show.
00:03:28Steve, you're just back from, I believe, climbing Kilimanjaro.
00:03:29Yes.
00:03:30How did that work out for you?
00:03:31Er, I got to the top.
00:03:32Amazing.
00:03:33Yeah.
00:03:34Yeah.
00:03:35There wasn't much oxygen but I made it.
00:03:36Yeah.
00:03:37I was, I was 60 years old last, a couple of weeks ago and I thought, can I have a party?
00:03:38Or climb a mountain.
00:03:39CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:03:40CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:03:41CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:03:42Welcome to the show, Eina, welcome to the show.
00:03:44Steve, you're just back from, I believe, climbing Kilimanjaro.
00:03:47Yes.
00:03:48How did that work out for you?
00:03:49Er, I got to the top.
00:03:51Amazing.
00:03:52Yeah.
00:03:53Yeah.
00:03:54There wasn't much oxygen but, you know, I made, I made it.
00:03:56Yeah.
00:03:57I was, I was, I was 60 years old last, a couple of weeks ago and I thought, can I have a party
00:04:01or climb a mountain, so.
00:04:02CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:04:04Eina, Steve has been up a mountain.
00:04:09You have brought a movie about Roy Keane back to your hometown in Cork last night.
00:04:15What was their reaction?
00:04:16Were they delighted or did they think you were just doing your job?
00:04:20Er, it was harder than Kilimanjaro, I think, is probably fair to say.
00:04:23Yeah.
00:04:24It was terrifying.
00:04:25It was terrifying.
00:04:26It was, we went to Toronto with it first and I remember thinking, it'd be great, you
00:04:30know, if this, it'd be great if it came out with a draw here.
00:04:32Because, you know, it's not, it's not exactly the national, the national game.
00:04:35And then I thought, I sat in the audience in the Everyman last night and I was like,
00:04:40this is a mental idea.
00:04:42We're going to premiere this film in Cork in front of 800 Corkonians and within five
00:04:47minutes they'll be able to turn around and go, nah.
00:04:49But, er, no, thankfully they, they, yeah, it went down a treat and it was, it was very
00:04:54special because that was like my local theatre and, you know, did plays there as a kid
00:04:59and, erm, have been going there my whole life.
00:05:01So it was a very special kind of homecoming and a great Irish premiere for us.
00:05:05I mean, it's a great, great movie, Steve.
00:05:08Er, you know, for those who are unfamiliar, give us the background to this.
00:05:11Mick McCarthy, Roy, World Cup, Japan.
00:05:14Well, I mean, anyone in the audience who is familiar with football will know that, er,
00:05:17I mean, they look, they don't look too young to me.
00:05:20So, I would say that they might remember that episode in Irish cultural history where, er,
00:05:27Mick McCarthy and Roy Keane were at loggerheads and, er, couldn't resolve the differences.
00:05:32And, erm, it was happening in, under the, er, microscope of the World Cup when Ireland were there.
00:05:38Er, and it, it, it was on, it was the only thing people were talking about at the time.
00:05:43It was sort of, it sort of drowned out every other news story at the time.
00:05:47It's a very diplomatic, er, description of one on there, Steve, I have to say.
00:05:51Well, it's an interesting story because, you know, it's about, it, it, it, it was Roy and, er,
00:05:57and, er, er, Mick were at each other's throats.
00:06:00And, erm, er, and when I read the script I thought it was a little bit just too pro-Roy and not,
00:06:06didn't quite give Mick enough, er, er, credibility and, er, as a second generation Irishman,
00:06:14er, as he was and as, as I am.
00:06:16Erm, so, erm, er, but I think, you know, I think in the end what we, what we did in the film,
00:06:21I think people would be pleased because we, it's fairly even-handed.
00:06:24I'd say it's like, you know, it's, I'd say it's probably 51.
00:06:28Yeah.
00:06:2951 Roy, 49, 49 Mick.
00:06:32Or mainly Roy.
00:06:34Ayn has given you the, the Roy look there, as you just said.
00:06:37Do you know, it's very funny because we were supposed to be at Loggerheads, er, I mean, I, I, no Ayn,
00:06:41in fact, this is, we, Ayn, I didn't know this, but do you want to tell them?
00:06:45Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:06:46So.
00:06:47First day of college, Trinity, I was going to the Lear, the drama school up the road,
00:06:51and, erm, we got to sign up for all the societies and I knew it was the only day I could go see anything
00:06:57because after that we'd be up in campus and we, you know, we wouldn't be near Trinity campus
00:07:01and, erm, I signed up for the His Society and who was given the talk was Mr Steve Coogan
00:07:07and I am and was a huge Steve Coogan fan and we went to see the talk, it was brilliant
00:07:14and about an hour later, saw Steve at the back and my friend said, go on, you've got to do it, like, you've got to go up.
00:07:19Erm, so I doorstepped him and, erm, and you were very lovely.
00:07:24Well, I, I did, well, I...
00:07:26APPLAUSE
00:07:28Yeah, that was, that was lucky Steve.
00:07:30I said to my...
00:07:32Well, I, I, I said to, I said to Ayn, I said, er, was I nice to you?
00:07:36He said, yes, I said, thank God for that.
00:07:38Erm, and as my mother said, be nice to people on the way up, you might meet them again on the way down.
00:07:42And, er, and thank God it was, it was nice saying it, cos I have met him on the way down.
00:07:47LAUGHTER
00:07:48Er, he was number one on the call sheet and I was number two, so, er...
00:07:51Well, I mean, what was it like whenever you guys got together on, on set?
00:07:54You were stand, you stood off a little bit at the start?
00:07:57Well, I, I kind of, well, because I was, you know, such a fan going in, I said, I did that classic thing
00:08:02that I used to advise no one to ever do, where I was like, not gonna tell them I'm a fan.
00:08:06Erm, if anything, I'm gonna go in and I'm gonna be, you know, I'm gonna be ruthlessly professional.
00:08:11And, er, so I probably, I probably went too far the other way and I think it was probably very standoffish for the first week.
00:08:18And just kind of looking across at everyone having a great time and enjoying their job and I was going,
00:08:22that looks like, that looks like good fun.
00:08:25And then after the first week, things relaxed a little and, erm, we had a ball, we had a great, great time.
00:08:31I do, I do remember thinking that you were so, you were very, you were in a very Roy Keane mode,
00:08:37shall we say. And, er, I wasn't, I thought, should I, should I, should I be, should I be friendly with him?
00:08:43Or will that spoil the magic of the, er, of the, of them being at loggerheads?
00:08:48And, erm, I thought, I think I went over to you and said, er, you know, er, are we all right?
00:08:54Meaning, er, you know, Steve Coogan and Aiden Hardwick.
00:08:58Well, I mean, I know Mick and, er, Roy weren't all right.
00:09:01Erm, and, er, yeah, I think we sort of, we warmed up a bit.
00:09:05But I think it was, but I certainly thought there was a little bit of let's not get too friendly early on
00:09:11because we need to preserve this conflict.
00:09:13Well, look, I mean, you definitely did that.
00:09:15I mean, what you guys put on screen, that you just spark when the two of you are together.
00:09:19We've got a little clip here. Er, this is you guys in Saipan.
00:09:23I've seen the pitch, Mick.
00:09:26Okay.
00:09:29So, right, it's not great, but, you know, it'll do for what we need.
00:09:34Why, since when have we needed a rockery?
00:09:36I mean, seriously, you're asking lads to risk injuring themselves in it. Why?
00:09:39I should have spoke up during the meeting.
00:09:41It, it's day one, Roy. Relax.
00:09:44We don't have the kits, we don't have the drinks, we don't have the sun cream, we don't have footballs.
00:09:49We're just doing drills. We can manage without that stuff.
00:09:54We're not footballs.
00:09:57It'd be better if we had footballs.
00:10:01You actually spoke to Mick before you took on this role.
00:10:13I did. I did speak to Mick, and he was a little bit, you know, circumspect about the whole thing.
00:10:18But I said to him, look, this is, I want to hear, I want to talk to you because I want to hear your opinion.
00:10:22I want to, I want to, you know, I'm, I'm your representative out there.
00:10:25You know, Ana's representing Roy, but I'm sort of representing you.
00:10:28And I want to, you know, be, be, sort of say, give your points of view.
00:10:35And, you know, he, he sort of, he did say, you know, I mean, he has, you can see it on YouTube.
00:10:41He did say, you know, it's, of all the World Cup stories, it's, it's probably behind the hand of God.
00:10:49And I can't remember who the other one is, but it's, I think it's the, it's probably the third biggest story there.
00:10:56And people remember it, you know, so, you know, if the conflicts, if the conflicts hadn't happened between them,
00:11:01perhaps it would be a moment that was forgotten in, in Irish history.
00:11:05And I think it's, it's interesting because it's not just about football.
00:11:07The point about the film is that it's about Irish identity and the whole thing of, you know, are, are the Irish, you know,
00:11:15everyone loves the Irish, but they don't want them to be too successful.
00:11:19They don't, they like them because they can sort of, and I think you say, don't you as Roy, you know,
00:11:23that the rest of the world pats the Irish on the head.
00:11:27And that was what Roy was kicking against. It was like, we've got to fight to win.
00:11:31And Mick, I think was saying, look, we're here. Let's just be grateful for that.
00:11:37And it's a very different, it sort of encapsulates two attitudes, I think, about the Irish.
00:11:42It's like, you know, there's a balance between being liked and asserting your national pride.
00:11:48I mean, you know, whenever you were, you know, on screen, you could just see that you had that fierce focus of Roy
00:11:56and, you know, what it meant to him. I mean, I'm assuming mastermind as Roy King, your specialist subject,
00:12:02it could probably be an easy one for you at this stage.
00:12:04Well, yeah, I mean, it was, it was a very, I took in everything I could, you know, I read everything I could and watched everything I could.
00:12:11But then after a while, you kind of just forget that they're public figures and you have to play two men in this situation.
00:12:19You know, it's a bit of a shipwreck story. They're kind of stranded on a desert island far from home.
00:12:24And it was like, in the end, it became just about playing that situation, I suppose.
00:12:28And, like, you mentioned the kind of the rigour of the man there and the commitment and dedication.
00:12:34I mean, that was a kind of fascinating thing to try and uncover and to try and kind of rise to because it's a million miles, I think, from myself.
00:12:43I mean, to be fair, I thought you were in great nick. You got yourself in really good shape for this.
00:12:47Yeah, well, I can tell you it was, it was a brief six to eight weeks and then it was done.
00:12:54There he is. Like, that is the face of a pro there. I mean, to be fair, Steve, I mean, you put the work in too.
00:13:01I mean, this is you sitting down, having a rest, as Mick had said. Getting the legs out.
00:13:09Ain't I had abs, I had attitude.
00:13:12But I think, do you know, I have to say, pay tribute to Ain, as a startling young Irish actor who's got an incredible career ahead of him,
00:13:21was that on the first day on set when he was, he sort of became Roy, I was sort of shocked at how good he was.
00:13:34And I thought, oh, I'm going to have to, like, book my ideas up here. I'm going to have to bring my A game because he was so focused.
00:13:40So it's like, so I have to say, you know, the young actors, like, can teach you a trick or two.
00:13:47And it's like having a good, a good sparring partner, you know, he raised my game.
00:13:55If I can return the favour, I mean, it's lovely to hear you say that.
00:13:59That's what I was hoping for.
00:14:02I'll leave it at that. No, if I, I think, I think any of that preparation, coming in with that commitment was, was because the whole week leading of filming,
00:14:11I was going, what if I get into the first scene with Steve and I just crumble and just go, ah, I can't do it.
00:14:16He does. And that was a genuine fear. But of course, it's, it's the opposite.
00:14:21When you, when you get into a scene with a brilliant, brilliant actor like Steve is, it makes your life 20 times easier than you thought it would be.
00:14:28Because they take it out of your hands and your performance is kind of in their hands.
00:14:32And that is the greatest gift. I think you can arrive on set and realise, oh, this is going to be fun, actually.
00:14:37Because all I have to do is look this person in the eyes and sort of respond. And you're going to, it's easy to forget yourself.
00:14:44It's easy to sort of lose yourself in that way.
00:14:46I mean, you know, just looking at what you've done the last few years, I mean, you know, on the big and small screen, it's been amazing.
00:14:52You're going to be heading to the theatre to tread the boards after this.
00:14:57Yes, indeed. Played by the Western world. Yeah.
00:15:00And James sing. And like, to use a hackneyed term, it is my, it is a dream job to play that part and a dream cast.
00:15:08After, well, once you work with Steve Coogan. Once I work with Steve Coogan.
00:15:11I have a lot of dreams, you know. It's a, it's a really phenomenal cast led by Nicola Coughlin and Siobhan McSweedy.
00:15:20Wow. Marty Ray, Lorcan Cranich, Declan Conlon. It's an amazing, amazing group of actors.
00:15:25And we're halfway through. So it kind of feels like I mentioned school a little bit the last few days.
00:15:30But Katrina McLaughlin is directing. And I saw her direct this in my drama school about eight years ago.
00:15:38I thought that's how you do that play. So it's, it's been a, yeah, a delight to get in the room and everyone.
00:15:43And you're off to Canada with Pamela Anderson and Jamie Dornan. Is that a movie or a holiday?
00:15:48What's that? Yeah, I mean, I was hoping to lose Jamie, but he insisted on coming along.
00:15:54So, there you go. Yeah, no, we're doing a film in Canada.
00:15:58Michael Cera, the actor, is directing it. And Pamela Anderson's playing a sort of an older actress
00:16:06who's still hanging on in there. And I play her driver, who's a little bit obsessed with her,
00:16:12which won't be a big stretch.
00:16:15Very good. So, Luke, it was in Cork last night. You're heading to Belfast with us.
00:16:21It's going to be playing in Belfast at the film festival up there.
00:16:24Saipan is going to also be in cinemas across Ireland from December the 26th.
00:16:28Tickets are on sale now. One more time, Steve and Aina.
00:16:32OK. Competition time for you at home now. Roll it there, Theresa.
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00:18:01OK, time now to make a Toy Show dream come true, as our elves are on the road to surprise one lucky performer
00:18:07with the news that they're going to be joining us on Toy Show night.
00:18:11Who could it be? Let's see where we are. OK, do you recognise this house?
00:18:18Do you recognise that car? We're on our way in.
00:18:23Someone is sitting in there going, is it? This is my house! It's my front door!
00:18:28This is live. This is live. We're going to break the good news. If you're watching the show, open the door.
00:18:37CJ? What the hell? How are you doing, CJ?
00:18:43Good. You are going to be live on the Toy Show, CJ.
00:18:49Oh, my God! We saw your addition to it. Thank you so much!
00:18:53We thought you were amazing, and you're going to be joining us on a very special musical performance on the...
00:18:58Oh, my God, thank you so much! Wait, is this Patrick Kilty? Yeah!
00:19:02Oh, my God, thank you so much!
00:19:05OK. I'm literally just like...
00:19:08How do you guys even know where I live? My dad didn't even say that. He sent her.
00:19:11What the hell? What the hell? Oh, my God!
00:19:15Take a breath, CJ. Take a breath. We're going to come back to you.
00:19:18We're going to get a chat with CJ after the break.
00:19:20We're going to be peeling CJ off the roof in New Bridge.
00:19:23We're also going to be revealing... How cute is that?
00:19:26We're also going to be revealing how you could be joining him in studio with a big Toy Show in Iceland.
00:19:31We'll be back after these.
00:19:34Where sometimes I'm all down in love of plastic water...
00:19:42Why don't you come and offer gallery...
00:19:52Aye...
00:19:56Welcome back, the newly lit show!
00:19:57Hey, I'm Steve are still with us before the break our toy show else told CJ and new bridge
00:20:04He was going to be joining us on this year's toy show. He's a time to take it in CJ. How you feeling? Oh
00:20:12I'm feeling absolutely brilliant just watching the toy show year after year just like I'd love to be on that stage
00:20:18But now it's finally happening just oh my god just then knocking on the door then just like you're gonna be on the toy
00:20:23Show it's just all happening in one moment so quick
00:20:27It's just like what's going on?
00:20:29CJ save it save it don't don't don't waste it tonight the next time I see you
00:20:33You are going to be with me on toy show night on the 5th of December one more time. Let's hear it for CJ
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00:22:12one of Ireland's most successful comedians and podcasters
00:22:14who, in a world of war, famine and global warming,
00:22:17has written a guide to quite possibly the biggest threat
00:22:20to planet Earth today, the gobshite.
00:22:23Apparently, they're everywhere, and he tells me
00:22:25that one of them could even be hosting this show tonight.
00:22:28Please welcome Jonathan Regan!
00:22:30CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:22:32Welcome to the show. You met Steve before. You guys go way back.
00:22:51I have met Steve before, but I have to say that Steve is my son's favourite comedian.
00:22:56You have no idea how hurtful it is to be a comedian
00:22:59and know that you're not your son's favourite comedian.
00:23:02He absolutely thinks Steve's the best.
00:23:05Well, I'm just grateful I've got any fans who are under 30.
00:23:08LAUGHTER
00:23:08I haven't met Ena before, but I have met Roy Keane.
00:23:12Yes, you have met Roy Keane, actually. We've got a little snap of this.
00:23:17One of my favourite photos. I'm shaking his hand there.
00:23:19Can you see how happy he is to meet me?
00:23:21I can, yeah. He looks like a Make-A-Wish kid in that...
00:23:25This is a photo of Roy Keane getting to meet me.
00:23:27And when did Roy Keane work in a bag store?
00:23:3120% off the bags there, that looks like a good deal.
00:23:34UCD Sports Centre. The word went around campus that Roy is on campus.
00:23:39Myself and my friend Enda Kern ran across campus with the old wind-on camera,
00:23:44got the photo. Roy was clearly delighted with it.
00:23:46Clearly.
00:23:46And we moved on with our lives. But I've also met Mick as well.
00:23:50Mick was on The Irishman Abroad, as was Steve.
00:23:52Mick, as you said, one of the nicest people in the world.
00:23:58I'm convinced that if my car broke down in London tonight, he would come and get me if I could ring him.
00:24:04That's the kind of guy he was.
00:24:06Or if you needn't picked up from the airport after touring America, you're just back from Chicago.
00:24:10I am, I am.
00:24:11Mr Big Stuff.
00:24:12I'm just back from Chicago, or as my mother informed me, Chicago.
00:24:16Chicago.
00:24:17There's an R in there.
00:24:18I believe there's a lot of advice before you went.
00:24:20Look, there is a lot of advice from Irish mommies whenever you're heading off.
00:24:24Mainly it's, you have to be so careful.
00:24:26You have to be so careful.
00:24:29Particularly getting into Chicago at the moment, I was advised to get a burner phone.
00:24:35To not laugh at the late show.
00:24:37To, yeah, get a red hat, she said, or prepare for prison in Honduras.
00:24:43But I made it there, made it back, and tomorrow I'm off to Australia for the Australian leg.
00:24:48Oh, wow.
00:24:48Amazing, amazing.
00:24:49And in between, we've got this.
00:24:53Here it is.
00:24:55This is the book, apparently, we all need.
00:24:58What qualifies someone to be a gobshite?
00:25:02The gobshite, it's, you know, it's a uniquely Irish word because it relates to the spectrum of idiocy in this country,
00:25:09which I think we all know begins with Egypt and ends with gobshite, right?
00:25:14There's nothing wrong with being a bit of an eejit.
00:25:16Everyone's a bit of an eejit.
00:25:17You don't know all the names of all the eejits in your life.
00:25:19You can make a good living from being an eejit, right?
00:25:22And it's not a bad, yes.
00:25:25This is the thing.
00:25:25It's not a bad thing because it's not a static position.
00:25:28You can formerly be an eejit.
00:25:30You can be like, remember Sean?
00:25:31What a fucking eejit he was.
00:25:34Works for Google now, right?
00:25:36Sean has moved on with his life, right?
00:25:38But if someone is a gobshite, they're done.
00:25:43That is where the expression comes from.
00:25:45Once a gobshite, always a gobshite.
00:25:48It's over.
00:25:49There is no way back.
00:25:51And you try and remember who they are in your life.
00:25:53It's probably Bruce Forsyth, that, isn't it?
00:25:54It is a little.
00:25:56But there is, like, I'm sure you know the gobshites in your life, Patrick.
00:25:59You try and avoid them whether you're, unless you are dating them, married to them, working with them.
00:26:05I mean, there's none of them in RTE, obviously.
00:26:09Or, worst case scenario, raising one.
00:26:12Right.
00:26:13And that's when an intake of breath in the audience there.
00:26:15Because that is really the fear of every parent.
00:26:18You wake up bolt upright in bed at night and you go, oh, my God, am I raising a gobshite?
00:26:24Or worse, is the die already cast?
00:26:27Is he, he's already a gobshite?
00:26:29And now my job for the rest of my life is to clean up the trail of destruction he's going to leave behind himself.
00:26:35Yes.
00:26:35This book is going to help you identify them, sidestep them, avoid them and cope with them for the rest of your life.
00:26:41OK.
00:26:42It's, so, it can be a friend.
00:26:45A friend can be married to one.
00:26:47Yes.
00:26:47It can be a sibling.
00:26:48It can be a sibling.
00:26:49It's often a sibling.
00:26:50We've all, we've all been there.
00:26:52Steve's laughing slightly too hard at that.
00:26:55It's, so, would you be, are you the golden child in the family, Steve, would you say?
00:27:00Well, no, you know, I'm, I've, I've, I've done all right, but, um, you know, there's, as my father says.
00:27:06You're not our Brendan.
00:27:06There's, there's no way, there's no way you're the golden child in your family.
00:27:10You wouldn't go into entertainment.
00:27:10No, no, my, my, my mother cuts me down to size, I mean, all the time, so I don't get too big for my boots, which is another thing you're not supposed to do.
00:27:17Um, uh, yeah, in fact, I said, in fact, she's the other day, she said, um, she said, did Dave Baddiel and, uh, Frank Skinner come to see your show?
00:27:25She said, yeah, did they enjoy it?
00:27:26I said, yeah, they loved it.
00:27:27She said, I suppose I couldn't say anything else.
00:27:31So, uh, so, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, uh, yeah, I'm kept in check.
00:27:35I mean, there's quite a lot of, of these people in the world of showbiz.
00:27:38Uh, Aina, have you, have you encountered any gobshites on your travels?
00:27:42I'm sweating here, because I'm doing the arithmetic through my brothers, and I'm looking at my brother in the audience going,
00:27:47he's looking at me going, I'm the gobshite.
00:27:50Like, I can see it in his face right now, and I'm like, yeah, yeah.
00:27:52Well, it's very, it's very easy to spot them, right?
00:27:55There's red flags everywhere, right?
00:27:56You'll, you'll know the person when I, when I say this to you.
00:27:59Is this person, if you're worried somebody is a gobshite, you have to ask yourself,
00:28:03are people regularly angry at this person for reasons they find hard to understand?
00:28:08Are you regularly explaining why everybody's angry at them?
00:28:11Do they use the phrase, how was I supposed to know that?
00:28:14Quite a lot, right?
00:28:16And this is the acid test, before family functions, before the guests arrive,
00:28:20does somebody pull them aside and say, don't you open your mouth this time?
00:28:24That's, that's truly, that's red zone.
00:28:26You need to be careful there.
00:28:26And if you've a friend who's in a relationship with one, how, how do we?
00:28:30Oh, well, look, Tina, my wife, obviously read the, the gobshite guidebook,
00:28:35and started spotting things in it going, yeah, but Jar, you, you did, you did that.
00:28:38And I was like, yeah, no, a lot of this does come from my own personal experience,
00:28:42because a lot, a lot of women watching this now are going to be, hold on, I, I've always
00:28:46concerned that my husband does.
00:28:47Because they're mostly men.
00:28:48They're mostly men.
00:28:49I would say eight, eight, eight out of ten gobshites are male.
00:28:52I think it's because they learn slow, right?
00:28:55They learn slow, like, yeah, I think, last, we can all admit that.
00:28:58It took me.
00:28:59This isn't looking great here.
00:29:00No.
00:29:02Yeah, but like, you know, we take a while to take things in.
00:29:06Certainly in my marriage, I, it took me ten years to learn that when she was saying we,
00:29:10she meant you.
00:29:12She said, we really need to keep this house a lot tidier.
00:29:15She's saying, you're a messy fecker, sort yourself out.
00:29:18It took me ten years to realize that when she's criticizing herself, don't join in, right?
00:29:23If she's criticizing you, get on board, right?
00:29:26But most of all, I learned after ten years that if attempting to pick up your wife, never
00:29:31make any sound of any sort.
00:29:34No noise, no noise is acceptable.
00:29:36Not even a little, nothing, right?
00:29:38Absolutely nothing.
00:29:39I mean, these are just, these are things that can reveal you.
00:29:41I learned, these men are in, in a state of flux.
00:29:44We're, we're all trying to move through it.
00:29:45And I can feel, by the way, your, your, your eyes are locked on me, like Roy Keane.
00:29:49You're like, right, I'm working on this.
00:29:50I mean, I, I am trying to ignore it, Charles.
00:29:53I'm not going to lie.
00:29:54I mean, you, you're playing Chicago, you're playing Australia.
00:29:56Is, is the gobshite a, a kind of an Irish phenomena or, or are they having a moment globally,
00:30:01would you say?
00:30:02What would you say?
00:30:02I mean, they're being incredibly successful at the moment, gobshites.
00:30:06They're, they're, they're, they're rising to power across the world.
00:30:12I mean.
00:30:13Yeah.
00:30:15I mean, this is the thing, Patrick, we all cope with gobshites in our life and we think
00:30:23we are alone.
00:30:25It feels lonely, like how can nobody see this fella is a gobshite?
00:30:29That's what the book is all about.
00:30:30You buy a copy for yourself and you buy a copy for the gobshite in your life and you leave
00:30:34it on their desk in the hope that they'll put it together.
00:30:37But it's unlikely because gobshites rarely have the capacity for self-reflection.
00:30:41Right, so you won't, won't hold out much hope, but it will, it will make you feel less alone
00:30:44in this battle.
00:30:45Okay, the guys are playing Roy and Mick.
00:30:48I'm assuming each of them, Roy and Mick would think the other could potentially be this.
00:30:53I mean, who do we think was the gobshite in that scenario?
00:30:57Well, they were both wrong, right?
00:30:58Neither of them was a gobshite, right?
00:30:59They both wanted the same thing, just one believed it could happen more than the other,
00:31:03right?
00:31:04Yeah.
00:31:06Yeah.
00:31:06I feel like I just got the Roy response there, yeah.
00:31:10You can see with the body language here, the lads are reverting to type.
00:31:14Yeah, well, it's like, you know, I'm battling my side, he's battling his side.
00:31:18I'm on team Mick, he's on team Roy.
00:31:21Although my mother thinks that Roy King could do no wrong, even when he did the dirtiest tackle
00:31:26in the world, it wasn't his fault.
00:31:28Yeah.
00:31:30Whose side were you on on that one?
00:31:32Ah, listen, I think we all felt for both, and over time we've learned that there was
00:31:38more nuance to it.
00:31:40And people can wrongly be labelled gobshites in these situations.
00:31:43I love you've kind of turned into the Tawnister here.
00:31:46Yeah.
00:31:46Well, you see, Patrick, it's a...
00:31:48There's a bit of diplomacy involved here.
00:31:50At the end of the day, both parties had reasonable arguments.
00:31:56OK, you've gone, we hold on.
00:31:58Very good.
00:32:02Very good, OK, this is it.
00:32:05The gobshite guide at Survival Manual is out now.
00:32:08You can find Jareth on tour here.
00:32:11After he comes back from Oz, Belfast Castle Bar, six dates in the Olympia.
00:32:16They are going to go quick.
00:32:19Ticketmaster.ie for those.
00:32:22Jareth is going to stay with us, but for now, give it up one more time
00:32:24for Jareth Regan.
00:32:31Time now for music from an Irish singer-songwriter who has shared a bill
00:32:37with Robbie Williams, been tipped for the top by the New York Times,
00:32:40and who has been described by Roland Stone as someone who can lift your heart
00:32:44and break it in the very same song.
00:32:46I am delighted to say you're about to find out how,
00:32:50as here to perform the closest we'll get, please welcome Nell Meskel.
00:33:07I could love you.
00:33:10Won't you love me?
00:33:14Let me do it while I want to.
00:33:19What's the point in pretending we're just friends, or better yet, it's too confusing
00:33:35Life's too long, I don't want another lover
00:33:40Why put it off, if not now, then it's forever
00:33:47Oh, I could be your full time, never need another
00:33:52What a waste to hide it from each other
00:33:55If you're all in, I am all in as well
00:33:59But if I'm only your half drunk, sometime lover
00:34:05Then I guess that's more than nothing
00:34:09If you're all out, I am all out as well
00:34:13Then I'm all out
00:34:24Oh, I could lose you
00:34:32You could lose me
00:34:35It'd be awful, but it'd be easy
00:34:41Wish I was sober the night I told you
00:34:48I'd only call him because you called her
00:34:54Yeah, I could be your full time, never need another
00:34:59What a waste to hide it from each other
00:35:03If you're all in, I'm all in as well
00:35:07But if I'm only your half drunk, sometime lover
00:35:12Then I guess that's more than nothing
00:35:16If you're all out, I'm all out as well
00:35:23Well, hold on, and hold out
00:35:26Forever in and out of love
00:35:29Till frail bones get heavy
00:35:32Will you keep me steady?
00:35:36Oh, with our last breath
00:35:39Will we regret the words we left unsaid?
00:35:45Given
00:35:45Yeah, I could be your full time, never need another
00:35:52What a waste to hide it from each other
00:35:55If you're all in, I'm all in as well
00:35:59But if I were your half drunk, sometime lover
00:36:05Then I guess that's more than nothing
00:36:08If you're all out, I am all out as well
00:36:12Yeah, I could be your full time, never need another
00:36:18What a waste to hide it from each other
00:36:21If you're all in, I'm all in
00:36:26Hello, Mrs.
00:36:50How are you getting on?
00:36:52Oh, it's so good, wow
00:36:54That was amazing
00:36:59Thank you so much
00:37:00So good to see you
00:37:01So good to see you
00:37:02And congrats on all the success
00:37:04It's mad
00:37:05Thank you
00:37:05You must be delighted with it
00:37:07Yes, it's been a fun couple of weeks
00:37:08I just got off a tour
00:37:09And I'm feeling like very, yeah, ecstatic
00:37:11It's been a really fun time
00:37:12And your mum and dad are in the audience
00:37:14They are, it's fine
00:37:15Singing along with that
00:37:17There we go, Derville and Paul
00:37:18I mean, I weirdly feel like some type of proud dad
00:37:24Because a few years ago you came on the radio show in London
00:37:28I didn't realise you'd just moved to London at that stage
00:37:30I know, we were actually laughing about that
00:37:32Because I think I have to sing some sort of football chant
00:37:34And I was like, that's not my realm
00:37:36But it was really fun
00:37:37No, and at that point I didn't realise that, you know
00:37:39You'd decided not to do the leave insert
00:37:42And I didn't realise that a lot of your music
00:37:44Had sort of come from a tough couple of years before that
00:37:47Yeah, I mean, I'd been writing for a really, really long time
00:37:50But I think, I don't know
00:37:51When I was about 14 or 15
00:37:53I had a back surgery
00:37:54And I kind of was just at home the entire time
00:37:57And I had nothing to do
00:37:58And so I was like
00:37:58I think I'll start taking it a bit more seriously
00:38:01And then I got a few vouchers to record some songs
00:38:03And I was like, I'm going to make an album
00:38:05It was definitely not an album
00:38:06But it was a few songs
00:38:08And it was a really fun time
00:38:09And then I think, yeah
00:38:10I decided I wanted to do it forever
00:38:12So, yeah
00:38:13And there was a good bit of support at home
00:38:15I know it was a creative house to grow up in
00:38:16Yes
00:38:17Your dad was there for you from the start
00:38:21My dad would try to teach me guitar
00:38:24But I'm the most stubborn person you'll ever meet
00:38:26And so I would be like, no!
00:38:28And I would scream and I would cry about it
00:38:30And so he did try and teach me
00:38:32He was very supportive
00:38:33Eventually I tried to do the whole self-teaching thing
00:38:35But he is a legend
00:38:36You should see the shrug behind camera too
00:38:39He's like, alright, what are you doing?
00:38:40What are you doing?
00:38:42You have another family member
00:38:43Who's trying to be a musician at the moment
00:38:46He's trying, yeah
00:38:47I mean, are you helping him out with this?
00:38:48Tell us what's going on
00:38:49Honestly, I'll get some FaceTime calls from him
00:38:51Like pretty late
00:38:51And he's like, listen to this chord progression
00:38:53And I'm like, okay
00:38:54And we'll talk about it
00:38:56And it's really nice to be able to connect about music
00:38:58And so, yeah, no, he's a legend
00:39:00He's very
00:39:01So this is your brother Paul who's playing
00:39:02Who's this guy he's playing?
00:39:04I don't know
00:39:04Paul McCartney?
00:39:05Paul McCartney
00:39:06Yeah, Paul McCartney
00:39:07So it's no big deal at all
00:39:11No
00:39:11Yeah, no
00:39:11I mean, Ina, when you guys were at theatre school together
00:39:16I mean, you playing Roy Keane and him playing
00:39:18Shakespeare and McCartney
00:39:19Yeah
00:39:20I'm going, I'm like, that's some imings
00:39:22It's not on the bingo card
00:39:22It's not on the bingo card
00:39:24It's not, I'm sure it wasn't on the bingo card
00:39:26When we were doing our second year Greeks
00:39:29No
00:39:29But
00:39:29So you guys know each other then quite well
00:39:31Yeah
00:39:32I mean, this is like the thrill of seeing you there
00:39:34To see the last few years
00:39:35I mean, how incredible it's been for you
00:39:37Thank you so much
00:39:37And you too
00:39:38Yeah, no, it was
00:39:38I was very happy to see your name on the list
00:39:40So I was like, I was thrilled
00:39:42Yeah
00:39:42Yeah, really exciting
00:39:43I know you're a woman who likes to manifest things
00:39:47And they seem to be
00:39:48It seems to be working out
00:39:49What are you manifesting for the new year?
00:39:51Yeah, I actually have two vision boards
00:39:53At either side of my bed
00:39:55So that every time I like wake up
00:39:56I'm like looking at something
00:39:57So I can like be manifesting it
00:39:59But yeah, I think just like a lot of shows
00:40:01And just to continue writing songs
00:40:03And I got to record this EP in New York
00:40:05With some incredible musicians
00:40:06And I think that was such a
00:40:07It was such a joy
00:40:08And I think I couldn't have ever manifested that
00:40:11I think it was just something that kind of happened
00:40:13And it was so beautiful
00:40:14So I think more of that
00:40:15But yeah, I had
00:40:17What has been on the vision board
00:40:18That you've managed to take off?
00:40:19I just played my first arena tour
00:40:22With Haim literally last week
00:40:24And it was the most fun of all time
00:40:26And I have those arenas
00:40:28And I have bands like Haim on my walls
00:40:29And I've had them since I was younger
00:40:31I used to have a photo of Dermot Kennedy
00:40:33Literally right by my face
00:40:34As I would go to sleep at night
00:40:35Which I know sounds creepy
00:40:36But it was
00:40:37And just I was obsessed with him way
00:40:39And he
00:40:41Yeah, and then I got to support him
00:40:42And so that was pretty mad
00:40:43But yeah
00:40:44I would say keep manifesting
00:40:46It works
00:40:47Okay
00:40:47I have a little board
00:40:49Beside my bed
00:40:50Yeah
00:40:50What's on it?
00:40:51Don't be a gobshite
00:40:52Yeah, perfect
00:40:53Perfect
00:40:53That's right
00:40:55It's going to happen someday
00:40:56It's going to happen someday
00:40:58But it still hasn't come true
00:41:00Look, Nell's new EP
00:41:03The Closest We'll Get
00:41:04Is available now
00:41:05She will be back in Ireland
00:41:06For some live shows next month
00:41:08Dublin, Cork and Belfast
00:41:10Full details on
00:41:11NellMeskell.com
00:41:13Thank you so, so much
00:41:14Thank you so much
00:41:15It's great to see you
00:41:16A big thanks to Nell
00:41:17To Jarrett
00:41:18To Steve
00:41:18And to Ina
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00:43:20My next guest became the youngest leader of any political party in the Dáil less than four years after entering electoral politics.
00:43:30Since then, she has almost doubled the number of TDs in her party and was the first to endorse Catherine Connolly in her successful run for the Iris.
00:43:38Would you please welcome Holly Kearns.
00:43:50Welcome to the show. Six weeks back in the Dáil after maternity leave. Are you enjoying being back amongst it all, the cut and the thrust of it?
00:44:07I am. It was, to be honest, bittersweet and I think a lot of women who go back to work after maternity leave will find that.
00:44:14I was definitely excited to get back and to get stuck in.
00:44:18But also getting used to being away from the little one is tricky and politics isn't necessarily designed for women who've just had a baby either.
00:44:26So, a bit of both.
00:44:28A bit of both. Since you've had your new arrival, Ireland has had a new president.
00:44:32The Social Democrats are the first to endorse Catherine Connolly. You must be delighted with that result.
00:44:38To say the least, I mean, obviously, you know, we were really proud to endorse Catherine from the beginning.
00:44:45I was lucky enough to get to know her in the previous Dáil and, you know, she always stood out to me as somebody who stood on the right side of important arguments.
00:44:55She had that something special about her as well, you know, when she stood up to speak in the Dáil.
00:44:59She was really softly spoken, but everybody listened. And that's kind of a unique trait.
00:45:06But I would have worked a lot in the first Dáil term on the aftermath of the commission investigation into mother and baby homes.
00:45:13And that's when I really came to know that she was an incredibly decent politician.
00:45:18She has real integrity. And I think we're all incredibly lucky that she will be our president.
00:45:24Would you say this is the start of a new era or, you know, I know there were a lot of spoiled votes in the election.
00:45:30There was a low turnout. Do you think maybe people need to engage a bit more in the political process at the minute?
00:45:37I think it's really important to acknowledge those spoiled votes. And of course, they're not a homogenous group of people either.
00:45:43But there was a lot of people saying they didn't feel represented on the ballot paper.
00:45:46Were there enough people on the ballot paper?
00:45:48Clearly not, you know, in that scenario. Now, I think an important thing to note as well is, take Catherine Connolly.
00:45:56She, you know, announced her campaign a long time ago. She was, you know, on the campaign trail for months.
00:46:03None of those candidates who tried to get on the ballot and didn't put that much into it.
00:46:08And it should take a bit of work to get onto our ballot paper for presidential election, I think.
00:46:12So, you know, I think we should be really open to discussion and conversation about this.
00:46:16But I think it's also important to acknowledge that because I think we're lucky that we now have a president who will turn up to the oars like she did for that campaign.
00:46:25She was serious about it. She knew what it took to get on the ballot. She knew what it would take to win the election.
00:46:29And that's the type of president that we'll have now. So I think in some ways the process works quite well.
00:46:34But we do need to look at it and always be open to conversation about it. Absolutely.
00:46:37But so we have the spoiled vote scenario and that's really important to look at.
00:46:40But what we also saw, Patrick, was a campaign that I think felt similar to, for example, the marriage equality campaign in Ireland.
00:46:48It felt similar to the repeal the eighth campaign where we saw a whole load of, for example, younger people who maybe hadn't been politically mobilized in the past who joined Catherine's campaign.
00:47:00And I know because, you know, having gone through the repeal campaign and coming out of and getting involved in politics, that that's really important because it can feel like politics is kind of for somebody else, you know, but politics affects all of us.
00:47:14And we need, you know, more representation. We need more diversity in the Dáil.
00:47:18So to see more people getting involved, getting energized and mobilized, involved in politics is so important.
00:47:24And I hope those people will stay involved.
00:47:26One of the people that this election brought to the fore, Ivan Yates, Ivan Yates was found to have coached Jim Gavin.
00:47:37He also had his comments about smearing the bejesus out of Catherine Connolly.
00:47:41Do you think that there needs to be a declaration of interest going forward, going into campaigns?
00:47:47Yeah, absolutely. I think he should have declared his interest. It's as simple as that.
00:47:52And I think, you know, one of the interesting things about Catherine's campaign was how much she rose above all of those kind of different elements that were going on in the background.
00:48:03And do you know if she received any media training from a journalist during the campaign?
00:48:08You would have to ask her. Yeah, I'm not sure. You don't know. I don't know if Catherine Connolly had any. No, no.
00:48:13Have you ever had any media training from a broadcaster?
00:48:16Not from a broadcaster, no. I've had media training once.
00:48:20It's something that you think needs to be put out in the open a bit more?
00:48:26Look, any broadcaster should just declare their interest. I think that's just in the interest of the listeners.
00:48:32Everybody should know if there's any kind of a bias. And, you know, particularly with the presidential election campaign like that,
00:48:38it's just extremely important. And, you know, hopefully other people will learn from this going forward.
00:48:45That's all I can say on the matter, I suppose, really.
00:48:48In the news this week, Simon Harris and emigration. He has said that emigration is too high. The system's not built for the numbers.
00:48:58You have said that he's kind of coming out of the Nigel Farage playbook. He's someone who has had death threats and attacks on his home.
00:49:09Is that responsible, comparing him to Nigel Farage?
00:49:13I think it's really important that we call out the behaviour from the Tornista in recent days,
00:49:19because what we've seen is a very obvious reaction to the result of the presidential election.
00:49:27The government seem to be in panic mode. And what they're doing is trying to point the finger of blame for their failures elsewhere.
00:49:35And that is not only irresponsible, but in the current climate, when we know things are so fragile,
00:49:41when it's a number of days after the riots outside City West, it's actually reprehensible,
00:49:45because it fans the flames of a very serious and delicate situation.
00:49:50And I think, you know, we saw the riots in Dublin before, and after that, there were children of colour terrified to go to school.
00:49:59You know, when you think about the reality of what this kind of flame fanning does,
00:50:05and he needs to take responsibility for that as a leader.
00:50:08To be fair to him, though, you know, the attack on the IPAS Centre, you know, this week,
00:50:13you know, he has called that a, you know, despicable crime. And so he has, he has come out and condemned that.
00:50:20That is the very least that he could do is condemn an attack whereby somebody quite literally tried to burn children,
00:50:27including a nearly three week old baby alive. And like, what the Tornista essentially said was,
00:50:33that the number of immigrants, of people coming in, was too high. And in that he included the number of people who come in on work permits.
00:50:42So, the Tornista is, for one, kind of bending the numbers, because he was talking about the 80% of people who refused,
00:50:48not including this on appeal, 30% of those people get it. So he's kind of fudging the figures,
00:50:54saying that there's too much immigration. But like, including the people on work permits, he hasn't said,
00:50:59would he like to reduce the number of people working in our healthcare services, in construction,
00:51:04to build the thousands of homes that we so desperately need from the hospitality sector, from meat processing plants.
00:51:10He hasn't said any of those things. All he's trying to do is use, quote unquote, kind of tough on immigration language.
00:51:16And we saw after this outrageous attack on the IPAS centre where the children were.
00:51:22He was, he was speaking about, you know, the next thing that was like the rush to cabinet.
00:51:28They're talking about charging international protection applicants for accommodation.
00:51:31Now, let's break that down for a second. For one, it can't be legally enforced.
00:51:35Ireland has an obligation to provide accommodation for people. For two, it would actually cost the state money.
00:51:40And for three, if you want somebody to be able to move out of an international protection centre,
00:51:45they have to be able to save up for a deposit.
00:51:47So all they're doing is trying to talk tough on immigration.
00:51:51And I think a really kind of interesting analogy or comparison to this is we saw Mamdani, the recent election of the man in New York,
00:52:01and his speech after he got elected and he said, New York is a city that is built by immigrants, powered by immigrants,
00:52:10and now led by an immigrant. And where is Ireland's positive message for the people who've come here?
00:52:16It is their legal right to do that. Instead, it's the government pointing the finger at them.
00:52:21And this is a trend with this and previous governments where they promise something, do nothing,
00:52:27and then try to blame somebody else. The latest fall guy is EU red tape.
00:52:31They're constantly looking for something else to blame for their failures, and it's simply not good enough,
00:52:36particularly when the situation is so sensitive.
00:52:39I mean, he said that, you know, migration is a good thing. I think, you know, the other thing in terms of the contribution that they've made,
00:52:46he's also said that they make a positive contribution to that, is...
00:52:50While saying the numbers are too high.
00:52:52If this is the conversation that we're having, I mean, is that not a good thing that he's given his opinion,
00:53:00that you're given your opinion and we can kind of have a conversation about it?
00:53:04Absolutely. I 100% agree with that. What we've been calling for and asking for the Tornish to do and the Taoiseach is to make sure that our discussions are based in fact.
00:53:13So fudging figures like that and insinuating that the numbers are too high is simply incorrect.
00:53:18We've seen other members of the Taoiseach conflating crime with immigration that is also factually incorrect.
00:53:24There isn't in...
00:53:25There's actually more crime amongst Irish people than there is amongst our immigrant community, and that's just a matter of fact.
00:53:31So it's really important that we talk about it.
00:53:33But what we're constantly saying, Social Democrats and the Taoiseach, is let's make sure this is based in fact.
00:53:38That's all we're asking.
00:53:40There are some people who are concerned about immigration. I mean, where do you think that comes from?
00:53:47I know that there is. And what it comes from is a government in action.
00:53:54So people often can't even get a GP. You can't access affordable housing.
00:54:01We have over 5,000 homeless children in this country at the moment.
00:54:06And I think there is a really profound disconnect, Patrick, because we're talking about a country that has a GDP per capita
00:54:13that makes us one of the wealthiest countries in the world.
00:54:15And the number of children living in consistent poverty doubled last year.
00:54:19We have, you know, record budget surpluses and threadbare disability services.
00:54:24There is a huge disconnect from between, like, where we're at and our actual potential.
00:54:31And what I would say to people is that is a choice that we have when it comes right to an election,
00:54:36because, like, Fianna Fáil and Fianna Gael have brought us so far.
00:54:40And, of course, loads of good things have been done.
00:54:43But what they are doing with our health service, with housing policy, with childcare, you name it,
00:54:49is ultimately, and this is their position, you know, their right-of-centre part,
00:54:54both of them are right-of-centre parties, and their position is to throw these issues up to the gods in the private sector.
00:54:59And then it is out of their control, it's out of their hands, and then they're scrambling.
00:55:03And that is, like, their ideology.
00:55:05And what we're saying is, the wrong decisions got us into these crises, the right ones can get us out.
00:55:11You know, it might sound, you know, it's not radical, what we're proposing,
00:55:15but it actually would have a radical impact on people's lives for the state, for the government of the day,
00:55:20to, like, build our public services.
00:55:24When we go into an election, when the Social Democrats went into the last election,
00:55:26we said, we're not going to promise massive tax cuts and investment in services.
00:55:30I think people deserve a bit more straight-talking.
00:55:32That is what the government have done. What did they do?
00:55:34They deliberately misled us on the housing figures in the lead-up of the government.
00:55:37They promised the Occupied Territories Bill.
00:55:39All the talk for public model of childcare, it's evaporated.
00:55:42There's a lot of people that are listening to you and to listen to the stuff that you're saying
00:55:46and, you know, would support you and would have loved at the last election
00:55:51that you had gone into government.
00:55:53You know, there's some people that think you were protecting the future of the party
00:55:59rather than actually getting into government and changing people's lives.
00:56:04So, before the election, because what we do see is everybody will have experienced this,
00:56:09political parties, politicians promising the sun, moon and stars, and then under-delivering.
00:56:14And I think people are really sick and tired of that.
00:56:17So we took a different approach in the lead-up to the last general election, whereby we said...
00:56:21But after the general election, though, you chose not to...
00:56:23Yeah, yeah. So we had our five deal-breakers.
00:56:25OK.
00:56:26And we said to people, if we can get these five things in, because, trust me,
00:56:29there's way more than five things that we want to get in,
00:56:31but we recognise that no party's in a position to be a majority government,
00:56:35it's about coalitions, that there is going to be compromise,
00:56:38and we want to be really... have a pact with the public to say,
00:56:41we get these five things in, if we can't, we won't go into government.
00:56:44And I think having that straight-up conversation with the public is really important,
00:56:48because what we see, and what I was so fed up of with Irish politics before I went into it,
00:56:53is this kind of underestimation of the electorate?
00:56:55Like, just tell them that during the election,
00:56:57and then don't bother doing it afterwards.
00:56:59I think that we deserve better, so that was our approach.
00:57:01We had our five deal-breakers,
00:57:03and we couldn't get those into the programme for government,
00:57:06so we didn't go into that government.
00:57:07And it wasn't a massive ask.
00:57:08We're talking about the bare minimum here,
00:57:10the accelerated implementation of Sláinte Care,
00:57:13building a public model of childcare,
00:57:16things that... a senior ministry for disability.
00:57:18All of these things are achievable.
00:57:21I think it feels very out of reach for us in Ireland to imagine
00:57:24actually having a national health service.
00:57:26We're one of the only countries in Europe that doesn't,
00:57:28and we spend more per capita on health than those countries.
00:57:31So there is another way, but we have to choose it.
00:57:35And I think, you know, the Social Democrats had those five deal-breakers
00:57:39going into the last election.
00:57:40We've since doubled the size of our parliamentary party.
00:57:43I hope to go into the next election with a lot more deal-breakers
00:57:46and that we really plan to grow and build,
00:57:48because it doesn't have to be this way.
00:57:50Change is possible.
00:57:51But I know we have a huge job work for us.
00:57:53In the lead-up to the last election,
00:57:54people all over the country are saying,
00:57:56I wish I had a candidate in Sligo, I wish I had a candidate here.
00:57:58I want to say to those people, I hear you.
00:58:00That is our laser focus now as a party.
00:58:02That is what we are working towards and building towards,
00:58:05because the next government...
00:58:07I think Catherine Connolly, her campaign has showed what is possible,
00:58:10but we want to make sure that the next government
00:58:12has the biggest socially democratic influence.
00:58:15So that is, you know, a big job of work for us,
00:58:18but I want to reach people.
00:58:19We need to earn people's trust.
00:58:20And crucially, we need to keep it.
00:58:22I think there's space for a new style of politics.
00:58:25I want to talk about the Social Democrats
00:58:28in terms of you're pretty much a controversy-free party
00:58:31and then along comes Owen Hayes with the Palantir shares
00:58:35and the black face.
00:58:37Do you regret his selection as a candidate?
00:58:41It was a difficult time for the party
00:58:44and I know that we'll have loads more difficult times.
00:58:48I think the important thing...
00:58:49Do you regret it though, selecting him?
00:58:51No.
00:58:52I think, you know, the test of any party
00:58:56or any organisation or whatever it is,
00:58:58is how you deal with situations.
00:59:00There's always going to be difficult situations
00:59:02and the party acted very swiftly.
00:59:06There was quite a serious sanction for Deputy Hayes.
00:59:09What was it?
00:59:11A suspension of eight months is nearly unprecedented
00:59:14in terms of party suspensions.
00:59:18He has unequivocally apologised.
00:59:22He donated the increase in share price
00:59:25to charities on the ground in Gaza
00:59:28and now I believe that he deserves a second chance.
00:59:31So you would be supporting him then as a candidate in the next election?
00:59:35He has an opportunity now to earn people's trust back
00:59:38and I absolutely support him to do that.
00:59:39I think that he deserves it.
00:59:41If there is going to be a left-wing government here in Ireland,
00:59:45chances are it will be led by Sinn Féin and Mary Lou.
00:59:49Would you support, a few supporters in,
00:59:53would you support her for Taoiseach?
00:59:56For me it's not about who's in what position,
00:59:59who's the Taoiseach, who's the minister for what.
01:00:02It's about what is the nature of this government.
01:00:04But as the biggest left-wing party,
01:00:06they will ultimately lead a left-wing government,
01:00:09you would think, if it happens.
01:00:11So would you be happy with her as Taoiseach?
01:00:15It's just not about who's Taoiseach for me.
01:00:18It's about what we would like to see is a left government.
01:00:21We would favour that absolutely.
01:00:23And what we've always said and what I continue to say now
01:00:26is we'll talk to everybody after the election
01:00:28and we would talk to people on the left first
01:00:30because we want to get as many of our policies in as possible.
01:00:33We have much more in common with parties on the left
01:00:36and we would always ask people to vote left, transfer left.
01:00:40OK, so it's not about people, it's not who the Taoiseach is,
01:00:45but if it's Sinn Féin, Sinn Féin are going to want to board a poll
01:00:49within five to ten years.
01:00:52So would you support that?
01:00:55I think what we need to be really careful of
01:00:58in relation to border polls and anything to do with a united Ireland
01:01:04is to not make the kind of mistakes that were made with Brexit,
01:01:07that we're voting on something that's kind of in the abstract
01:01:10and we don't know what the specifics of it are.
01:01:12I mean, the specifics of it are, though, that Sinn Féin, you know,
01:01:15that is their core value, that is what they want.
01:01:18You were talking about your party and, you know,
01:01:21the things that you guys would not go into government unless you got.
01:01:25They're going to want that. Would you support that poll within five to ten years?
01:01:31We want to see united Ireland.
01:01:33What we think is, we need to know what that would look like.
01:01:36And I think the reality is, in the south, we have a lot of work to do in terms of reaching that.
01:01:42We know from polling that's done, people broadly really want to see that.
01:01:47And when they're asked about the different compromises or things that might have to change,
01:01:52that hasn't even been on people's radar down here.
01:01:55So we're very aware that there's a lot of work to be done.
01:01:58And we think that that work should start with...
01:02:00You don't think a united Ireland's on people's radar down here?
01:02:03Oh, no, I think it's on their radar. I don't think it's on their radar.
01:02:05What I'm saying is... No, absolutely, sorry.
01:02:08All of the polling suggests that people absolutely want to united Ireland, 100%.
01:02:13What people in the south haven't considered as much is how that might work.
01:02:19For example, would we still have a stormant?
01:02:22Would we change our emblems?
01:02:24All of these things.
01:02:25I think we have quite a long way to go in terms of getting to that point.
01:02:28And I think if we want to see united Ireland, which I do,
01:02:31the best way to achieve that is to have, for example,
01:02:34citizens' assemblies cross-border to establish what the best way is.
01:02:38And then when we do a poll, we know what we're being pulled on.
01:02:41Do you think it's possible within five or ten years?
01:02:43That I don't know in terms of setting up a citizens' assembly,
01:02:47making sure that it's extremely thorough and includes unionists and nationalists in the north,
01:02:53as well as the different perspectives in the south.
01:02:56All of those things would take some time.
01:02:57And I think, actually, a lot of what would help, you know,
01:03:01if you're living in the north and I know that the NHS is far from perfect,
01:03:05don't get me wrong, the fact that we don't have a national health service down here.
01:03:09I think we have a lot to work on.
01:03:11But what is crucial is that when people are being polled in a border poll,
01:03:14that we know what we'd be voting on.
01:03:16I think that that's actually really important.
01:03:18So everybody can get on board with the same plan rather than a kind of united Ireland
01:03:22United Ireland in the abstract.
01:03:24But for them it's not an abstract thing.
01:03:26They believe that that plan is achievable within five to ten years.
01:03:29Do you think it is?
01:03:31I honestly don't know.
01:03:33I think it depends on how the next five years goes.
01:03:35And that's the truth, you know.
01:03:37I think we would have to know, for example, how would it be governed?
01:03:41Would we still have a Stormont but the government down here would operate the same as the one in the UK does at the moment?
01:03:47None of those specifics have been ironed out.
01:03:49And I think if you ask people a question without giving them the reality of what they're answering,
01:03:56it opens it up to a lot of misinformation, a lot of presumptions.
01:04:02And I think that could actually hinder us in terms of working towards a united Ireland.
01:04:06So our approach would be very much working towards achieving it.
01:04:09And how long that would take.
01:04:11I think we would only find out when we would start the process in terms of citizens assemblies
01:04:15and all of the things that I think it would take to get there.
01:04:18Your career has been in fast forward since everything's gone at a pace since you got into politics.
01:04:28If it goes at the same pace that it's been going, is there a chance that we might see you on the presidential ticket next time round?
01:04:37No.
01:04:38No?
01:04:39No.
01:04:40No.
01:04:41What do you think is going to be next for you then in terms of where you want to be in the next few years?
01:04:50What I would hope for is that the Social Democrats would be in government.
01:04:55We really want to go into government.
01:04:57We want to affect the kind of changes that we've been campaigning for.
01:05:01We want to implement the policies we've been working on.
01:05:04And we really want to see Ireland reach its potential.
01:05:10I think in terms of how lucky we are, you know, how prosperous our country is.
01:05:16We have so much potential and it's right there.
01:05:19There's no need for having the lowest employment rates for disabled people in the EU, for having thousands of people stuck in their childhood bedrooms.
01:05:28So people, you know, almost reminds me of 2008, the amount of people leaving to go to Australia.
01:05:33You know, we have an enormous potential and where I'd like to see the Social Democrats is in government and working hard to achieve that.
01:05:41Thank you so, so much for coming on tonight. One more time, Holly Cairns, thank you.
01:05:52Still to come, it's time to talk to Ciarán as the new host of Live Line will be here.
01:05:58Don't go away, back after these.
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01:07:32The Live Line is open. It is time to talk to Ciarán Cudahy.
01:07:36CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:07:51Great to see you. Finally got to meet you.
01:07:53We thought you were going to be unveiled in front of the fans.
01:07:55You failed the medical a few weeks ago. Yeah, that's right.
01:07:58Last minute hiccup. Last minute hiccup.
01:08:00What's the reaction been since you got the gig?
01:08:02It's been great. It has. It's been really, really great.
01:08:04And, you know, when you work in this industry, I guess when you work in any industry and someone offers you a new job, wherever it is, your mind turns to practicalities to a degree.
01:08:14And it's only when people stop you in the street. Just random people come up and stop you in the street.
01:08:19No, no. These people, are they telling you the problems that they have in their life yet?
01:08:23Well, there's a little bit of that starting to creep in already, which is probably good practice for what's coming.
01:08:27But, you know, they come up and it's actually been really, really nice. It's been really, really, like it's almost life affirming when people come up to you on the street and tell you how delighted they are.
01:08:37Total strangers, how delighted they are for you. It's been great.
01:08:40And where were you when you found out you got the gig?
01:08:43Well, I guess it was a few weeks ago, I would have had the first few conversations with, you know, people in RTE and then the conversations, the more important conversations with my wife and my family about whether you'd actually do it.
01:08:59And yeah, it was over the course of kind of those a few weeks ago when the official offer would have come through.
01:09:08And yeah, it's kind of surreal. And do you know what one of the more surreal moments in it was, what made me think of like what a big gig it was.
01:09:17You know, on some level you realise it's a big gig, it's live line, was that when the person offered me the job, they said, oh, by the way, keep this date free.
01:09:25You're probably going to have to go on the Late Late Show.
01:09:27Okay.
01:09:28And I'm like, wow, wow.
01:09:29Well, there you go.
01:09:30That is a big deal.
01:09:31That is a big deal.
01:09:32You're a Kilkenny man. Is there going to be a daily hurling slot?
01:09:36Oh, there we go.
01:09:37Yes.
01:09:38That's that shot.
01:09:39Yeah.
01:09:40Couple of All-Stars picked up tonight, of course.
01:09:41Yeah.
01:09:42Yeah.
01:09:43I saw that didn't manage.
01:09:44We would have had more if Tip hadn't swindled the All-Ireland semi-final.
01:09:47I mean, yeah.
01:09:48Fact.
01:09:49John McGrath, John McGrath hurler of the year.
01:09:50Yeah.
01:09:51Yeah.
01:09:52Well deserved, has to be said.
01:09:53And David Clifford, of course, picking up a footballer there.
01:09:55Big surprise.
01:09:56Third time.
01:09:57He's only 26.
01:09:58We're all frantically Googling him back in the room to work out what age he is.
01:10:01He's incredible, isn't he?
01:10:02He's absolutely incredible.
01:10:03Different gravy.
01:10:04And there's no point in having a national platform if you can't abuse it for your own
01:10:09ends.
01:10:10Okay.
01:10:11I'll be talking about Clekenny hurling.
01:10:12I'll be talking about club hurling.
01:10:14I'll be talking about coaching under 10's camogie and under 12's hurling.
01:10:18I'll be talking about commuting from Clekenny and listening to hurling podcasts.
01:10:22All of that and more.
01:10:24Okay.
01:10:25I didn't realise that you ended up in Canada at one point.
01:10:29Yeah.
01:10:30Working on building sites.
01:10:31Yeah.
01:10:32And having your own kind of Roy Keane World Cup trauma during that.
01:10:35Oh God.
01:10:36Yeah.
01:10:37So I trained as a solicitor and then I, 2009 people will remember what the country was
01:10:42like in 2009 when I qualified and finished my apprenticeship.
01:10:45And I went to Canada and I was working for a company and building these apartment blocks.
01:10:50It was during the World Cup, 2010 World Cup.
01:10:53And because of the time difference that was the South Africa World Cup, we clocked into
01:10:57work one morning and we turned straight back around and we went down to an early house
01:11:01to watch the World Cup semi-finals.
01:11:03Of course you did.
01:11:04And the problem, right?
01:11:05Our problem wasn't that.
01:11:07Our problem was we got greedy, right?
01:11:09So you know yourself.
01:11:10You have a few drinks.
01:11:11You get the confidence up and it gets to five o'clock and we think, right, we should
01:11:15ring Enrique now and get him to clock us out of work again.
01:11:18And one of the lads from Bandon says, and I shouldn't, Phil McLaughlin, says, no, don't
01:11:25do it.
01:11:26Don't do it.
01:11:27Let's wait and we'll get someone to clock us out in a few hours time and we'll get
01:11:30overtime.
01:11:31We'll get double pay.
01:11:32And yeah, that's all great.
01:11:34But as soon as you're there on overtime, there's kind of red flags beside your name.
01:11:38And sure enough, our boss from Columbia took a little look at these lads and followed
01:11:42up to find out what work had been done in the apartment we were working on.
01:11:45Nothing had been done and we were duly fired.
01:11:48There we go.
01:11:49There we are.
01:11:50When you came home then you...
01:11:51Sorry, I hope not to be fired from the next job.
01:11:54Not quite as quickly.
01:11:55I mean, I very much doubt that is going to happen.
01:11:59When you came back, you ended up in Newstalk.
01:12:01I believe you were sent on an undercover assignment at an early age.
01:12:06Oh, yeah.
01:12:07Almost.
01:12:08Out here.
01:12:09I'd never set foot in the RTE campus until a couple of weeks ago.
01:12:13But I nearly did about...
01:12:15When was that?
01:12:16Say 2011 maybe.
01:12:18So I was only an intern in Newstalk.
01:12:21That's how I started there.
01:12:22And kind of went in on an internship and never left.
01:12:25And one of my editors had a bee in his bonnet about the subsidised soup in the RTE canteen.
01:12:32This is a national scandal.
01:12:33I mean, it is to be fair.
01:12:34Day one, week one of Live Line.
01:12:36This is what we're talking about.
01:12:37All right.
01:12:38But the subsidised soup in the RTE canteen and he wanted me to go in with a hidden microphone
01:12:43and do a big expose about the price of soup.
01:12:48My attitude was very much...
01:12:49I went in an internship here and there's about three employers in this industry in the country.
01:12:53If you think I'm doing an expose in RTE about soup, you've got another thing coming.
01:12:57Have you actually found out how much the soup costs in the canteen?
01:13:01How much is it?
01:13:02It's 275.
01:13:04See?
01:13:05Scandal.
01:13:06A national scandal.
01:13:07A national scandal.
01:13:08That's your first call on Monday.
01:13:09Yeah, exactly.
01:13:10There you go.
01:13:11I mean, whenever you take this over, the magnitude of the stories that you have to cover.
01:13:16I mean, you know, Saipan was front and centre on Live Line whenever that was happening.
01:13:23If you had taken over a week earlier, there was another Kilkenny man who would have been,
01:13:29I'm sure, the main topic.
01:13:31Yeah.
01:13:32What's your take on that?
01:13:33I know you played Hurling against DJ Kerry.
01:13:35Yeah, I marked him in a match actually, in a club match.
01:13:37He would have went towards the end of it.
01:13:38What's the feeling down in Kilkenny about that?
01:13:40Ah, the feeling is, and I only speak for myself really, but it's just sad.
01:13:45The whole thing is sad.
01:13:47You know, it's indefensible what he did, and I think the judge described it as reprehensible,
01:13:53and it's hard to disagree with that.
01:13:55And the primary victims are all those people he swindled money out of, absolutely.
01:13:59But, look, not everyone would feel sorry for DJ on some level as well.
01:14:04And it was really, the contrast was so stark this week, I thought, when I was listening
01:14:12to the radio and, you know, people were recounting their own experience of how he defrauded them
01:14:17and the effort he put into defrauding them.
01:14:20And then, Nudie Hughes passed away, and almost in the same episode, there's just people talking
01:14:26in such reverential terms about his contribution to the GAA, his contribution to his community,
01:14:34and all of that.
01:14:35And I just thought, you know, DJ's torched all of that for himself.
01:14:41You know?
01:14:42And that's sad.
01:14:43You know, like I say, primarily, it's awful for the victims of it.
01:14:46But I, on some level, I feel sorry for him as well.
01:14:49I know not everyone will, but anyway.
01:14:51Well, look, you'll be in the thick of it from next week.
01:14:53Yeah.
01:14:54Talking about stories like that, and Price of Soup, and all good stuff.
01:14:59Will it be Talk to Ciaran the way it was Talk to Joe, do we think?
01:15:02We'll have to, we'll let the listeners maybe decide that.
01:15:05See, that's the beauty of Live Line.
01:15:07It's the listeners decide everything.
01:15:08They decide what you're talking about, whether it's, you know, soup or DJ,
01:15:13or whether it's, you know, two or three weeks of the menopause,
01:15:17which got such great coverage as well.
01:15:19Or whether it's the lighter stuff, the seemingly innocuous stuff,
01:15:22but the stuff that stays with you.
01:15:24Like, I remember a couple of years ago, driving around really slowly,
01:15:28trying to get home, take as long as I could to get home,
01:15:30because a fella had phoned in and he had had,
01:15:33he had every edition of the RTE Guide, the Christmas, except one.
01:15:37And he was desperate.
01:15:38And the whole, the whole show was basically people rummaging in their attics,
01:15:41looking for a magazine.
01:15:43You know, that's what it was.
01:15:44But it was just amazing, amazing radio.
01:15:47And that, that was dictated by the listeners.
01:15:49It was the listeners made it.
01:15:50And that's, that's the beauty of it.
01:15:51So I'll let them come up with the tagline as well.
01:15:53Okay.
01:15:54Our office is on the, the same floor as, as the Live Line studio.
01:15:58I was actually...
01:15:59I understand you barely work.
01:16:00I mean, to be fair, I mean, most people actually say I barely work
01:16:03while they're watching the show.
01:16:04So, you know, that's fine.
01:16:06But when I was passing the Live Line studio today,
01:16:10we actually saw a flashing red light on the phone.
01:16:13So we thought you might like a little lesson to this.
01:16:17Hello.
01:16:18Good afternoon.
01:16:19And you're very welcome to Ciaran Cunnihy.
01:16:22Ciaran.
01:16:23Don't talk to Joe now.
01:16:24Just listen to Joe.
01:16:25Would you please just listen to Joe?
01:16:27Remember the first 27 years are the hardest.
01:16:30And if the phone isn't ringing, you're doing something wrong.
01:16:33And if it is ringing, you're doing something really wrong.
01:16:37You're brilliant.
01:16:38I've heard great feedback already from my ex-colleagues in RTE
01:16:42about your enthusiasm, your ability, your intelligence.
01:16:46And by the way, your good looks.
01:16:48And that's just from the fellas.
01:16:50The women think you're gorgeous as well.
01:16:52So best of luck, old pal.
01:16:53You'll be brilliant.
01:16:54And in the great tradition of Gayborn,
01:16:57Pat Kenny, Marion, the great, great broadcasters.
01:17:00Break a leg, old pal.
01:17:02Break a leg.
01:17:03You'll be brilliant.
01:17:04That is really nice.
01:17:06What does that mean?
01:17:07That is so nice, isn't it?
01:17:09Yeah.
01:17:10It's amazing.
01:17:11But moments like that, they're surreal, aren't they?
01:17:14I got a card from Joe a couple of years ago.
01:17:17Joe's a great man to send cards to people.
01:17:19You probably have cards from Joe.
01:17:20I've had a few, yeah.
01:17:21And sometimes, you know, his signature is on it.
01:17:23But he sent one and he referenced something that had been on the show
01:17:26on Newstalk that I was presenting.
01:17:29And it stopped me in my tracks, the idea that someone of his stature
01:17:33had heard something I said on the radio.
01:17:36You know, I know it was a national radio show, but still on some level
01:17:39it's real.
01:17:40So that's amazing.
01:17:41That's lovely.
01:17:42That's really nice.
01:17:43Look, and you're going to be in the chair and we wish you all the best
01:17:45for it when you take over on Monday.
01:17:47Thank you so much.
01:17:48Ciaran Cunney.
01:17:49Thanks for having me.
01:17:50Well done.
01:17:51Good to see you.
01:17:52You can talk to Ciaran on R2 Radio 1 from Monday,
01:17:55the usual live line time off 1.45.
01:17:58OK, time now to find out who has won the trip to New York.
01:18:02It is Zoe Madigan from Clonmel in County Tipperary.
01:18:07Congratulations.
01:18:10Well done.
01:18:11That is our show for this week, folks.
01:18:14We will do it all again next week.
01:18:16Until then, this has been The Late Late Show.
01:18:17I've been Patrick Keelty.
01:18:18We'll see you then.
01:18:19Good night.
01:18:20CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:18:22It's Scarlet on The Late Late Show.
01:18:27CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:18:30CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:18:37Thanks.
01:18:38I'm going to get the opportunity to come over,
01:18:39and you are going to take it over.
01:18:40Thank you so much, Mike.
01:18:41Thank you very much.
01:18:42I'm going to go to that looks.
01:18:43I'll try a little bit more.
01:18:45Thank you, Mike.
01:18:46Thanks, Mike.
01:18:47Thanks for your time to be here.
01:18:50Thank you!
01:18:51.
01:18:52I'll try again.
01:18:53You're the best.
01:18:54I appreciate you.
01:18:56Once I've been doing my strength in a meeting.
01:18:57I will be doing it.
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