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00:00When nations bomb each other in the name of religion, revenge or self-defense,
00:05what does it reveal about our civilizational process?
00:10Religion can be the most violent and debasing force.
00:15Religion in its pure spirit is a beautiful thing.
00:17It does not engender wars.
00:20The thing is, you are misusing religion in the worst possible way.
00:24It's not really human beings that are bombing each other.
00:28It's the process of humanization gone wrong.
00:31I'm not saying all conflicts are religious.
00:34But religion is a major reason whenever there is a conflict.
00:38My car is better than your car.
00:41My argument is better than your argument.
00:43And my God is better than your God.
00:44My God is better because He is my God.
00:48If religion is not purified, it would either be further contaminated or it would be dropped.
00:54The best option always is to have.
00:58When nations bomb each other in the name of religion, revenge or self-defense,
01:08what does it reveal about our so-called civilizational process or human evolution?
01:16Religion exists to civilize the animal.
01:28But the animal can turn religion into its own thing.
01:46It's not really human beings that are bombing each other.
01:55It's the process of humanization gone wrong.
02:03Religion is the process of humanization of the animal.
02:09Sublimation of the beast that is born from the womb.
02:16Religion exists to elevate that beast into a being, a human being.
02:26But that beast is very mischievous.
02:34It can, it can turn religion into something of its own.
02:39So that's what is happening in the Israel-Iran case also.
02:48You can, you can say it's a geopolitical thing.
02:56You can say it's to do with oil or regional influence.
03:00Huh?
03:01You can say it's a thing about a contested history.
03:10But the bleak reality is that it's mostly about religion.
03:18It's a, it's a religious struggle.
03:25You know these two countries were actually some kind of friends till 1979.
03:32In fact, in that entire region, Iran was one of the very few allies that Israel had.
03:43Very few allies.
03:47There was Iran, there was Turkey, not Turkey, and Ethiopia.
04:01Israel took birth in 1948 and immediately there was war against the Arabs.
04:12And they all took Israel as a, as a stab right in their heart, in the middle of their region,
04:26in the middle of Middle East, a wound called Israel.
04:30That's how the Arabs took it, but there immediately was war.
04:36Then Iran was one of the first regional countries to recognize Israel.
04:42Though the recognition was not overt, but it was covert and proxy recognition, because Iran
04:57is not one of the Arab countries.
05:01Iran comes from a Persian lineage and its history predates that of Islam.
05:10So Iran too has had great differences with the Arabs.
05:20And Iran is Shia, whereas most of the Arab countries excluding Iraq are Sunni.
05:30So even that is a religious thing, the Shia Sunni thing.
05:37So till 1979, Iran was a monarchy and the monarch was pro-West.
05:52And Iran was a more Westernised place than the Arab world.
06:01And Israel had decent relations with Iran.
06:06In fact, when there was the six-day war, then it was Iran that provided fuel, oil to Israel.
06:17And Israel's Mossad was collaborating closely with Iran's own secret services.
06:26That was the level of cooperation between these two countries.
06:31Not that they were best friends.
06:34But compared to Israel-Arab relations, Israel-Iran relations were far more cordial.
06:44Then came 1979.
06:47And the monarch was thrown over, he ran away.
07:05He said he is proceeding on a vacation.
07:09So he ran away and then Ayatollah Khomani, he had been out of Iran for a long while, almost
07:2415 years.
07:26He was in France or some European country.
07:30He returned from there.
07:33And it took over the reins and Iran got a new Islamic constitution, where the head of
07:44the religious board would also be the head of the government.
07:51So Ayatollah remains the head of Iran and that continues to this day.
08:00And it is in 1979, with the Islamic revolution, that Israel-Iran relations go topsy-turvy.
08:13Suddenly Iran declares Israel as the little satin.
08:19Who is the big satin?
08:21US.
08:23The US embassy that was besieged for around 14-15 months.
08:35And their staff, around 50 people, were kept hostage.
08:39Such a long siege.
08:42And there was a total deterioration in relations because of the so-called Islamic revolution.
08:54Why did Israel have to be attacked?
08:58It is such a small country, you see, half the size of Kerala.
09:03Half the size of Kerala.
09:04That's how small Israel is in the area.
09:07And in population, it's even smaller.
09:10Why did Iran have to be so hostile to Israel when they were friends till just yesterday?
09:19Because Israel is a Jewish country.
09:25Israel is a Jewish country.
09:27So Israel had to be attacked.
09:30To the extent that it had to be said that Israel is a cancerous tumour in the Arab region.
09:37And it has to be surgically, totally removed.
09:44It has to be totally removed.
09:47Goodness.
09:48Look at the extent of hostility.
09:53Why this hostility?
09:55Because your entire nation is now founded on religion.
10:02So you must oppose the other religion.
10:05And also because within Islam, there are Shia-Sunni differences.
10:10And Arabs are mostly Sunnis.
10:14And if Iran has to assert itself, then it has to present itself as more radical than the
10:22Sunnis.
10:25You're getting it.
10:27If Iran wants to be the regional leader, then it has to show itself as ahead of the Arab
10:34countries in terms of its jingoism, in terms of its radical approach to Islam.
10:45So then Iran would fund and weaponize Hezbollah and Hamas.
10:52You're getting it because all of you are Sunnis, so you're anyway not listening to me.
11:09How do I present myself as a worthy leader of the entire Muslim world?
11:16By finding out an enemy and attacking it more rapidly than any of the other countries do.
11:23You all are Arab countries, right?
11:26And here is Israel.
11:28You are not attacking Israel in the same way as I do.
11:33Because I oppose and attack Israel in the fiercest way possible, therefore I qualify to be the leader.
11:40Are you getting it?
11:47Had both these countries been Muslim, would there be a strife?
11:55Had both these countries been Jewish, again would there be a strife?
12:00But we want to close our eyes to the bare fact that religion gone wrong is the worst thing
12:08possible to human beings.
12:11Religion can be the most uplifting of forces and equally the most downgrading of forces.
12:19Depends on whether religion is understood in its pure spirit or in its distorted externalities.
12:30Now, Israel is constantly bombing Iran.
12:41In the fear that if Iran manages to have a nuclear weapon, then Israel would be obliterated out
12:50of existence.
12:51It's a small country, two or three nuclear bombs and the entire country is gone.
13:00So their doctrine is no Arab country would ever be allowed to have a nuclear bomb.
13:10They have had the holocaust already.
13:12They don't want another one.
13:20There are barely like 1.5 million Jews in the world and half of them live in Israel.
13:27It's a very small number, you know, 1.5 million.
13:33I think we are all concentrated here.
13:37It's a small number and if you bomb this concentration then everybody is gone.
13:43And they are saying we will bomb it because it's our religious duty.
13:58The Zionist regime must perish.
14:03A little Satan must disappear.
14:14And Israel in its turn approaches Muslims with the kind of hardness that is rarely seen in
14:28history.
14:29You know the human tragedy that Gaza has now become.
14:41You know of the devastation, the shortages, even the starvation.
14:47You know how even the relief supplies are being blocked by the Israelis.
14:52And you know how they have been condemned by the entire world, including Europe.
14:59Not just condemned, they are actually being sanctioned now.
15:03Still there is a great hardening of Israeli attitude that remains towards the Muslim world.
15:21And that is when both the countries come from the common pedigree of Abraham.
15:36First come the Jews, then the Christians and then the Muslims.
15:40And they have common prophets as well.
15:44And still look at the fighting.
15:50Even within Islam, look at how the Shias and Sunnis fight.
15:57Are you getting this?
16:02Religion can be the most violent and debasing force.
16:08And we are not talking only of Judaism or Islam here, we are talking of all religions across
16:14the world.
16:15When distorted, they are the worst thing that can happen to mankind.
16:23And then sane people find it better to drop religion altogether.
16:28They say we have nothing to do with religion.
16:31We are irreligious or atheists or agnostics.
16:37We have nothing to do with this primitive historical thing called religion.
16:42They say religion is a thing of the past.
16:46Religion is a medieval phenomena.
16:50And modernity should have nothing to do with religion.
16:52And one can understand where they are coming from.
16:55They have seen the most rotten aspects of religion.
17:00Therefore, it is understandable that they want to keep their hands off it.
17:05Are you getting it?
17:12Now, Israel is saying unless the Iranian religious leader Khamenei agrees to a total abortion of
17:29the nuclear program, he will be physically removed.
17:36You understand what that means?
17:39We will kill the president himself.
17:45As if that can halt an entire nation.
17:54And nuclear technology and fissile materials are relatively very easily available today.
18:02And there are just too many players willing to sell nuclear secrets and material for a price.
18:13You have Pakistan, you have North Korea, you even have China.
18:17All these are people who can aid Iran's nuclearization.
18:26Sooner than later, Iran will have a nuclear weapon.
18:29And Israel already has 80 to 90 nuclear weapons.
18:35And these two countries are not far from each other.
18:43You know what's coming.
18:46Thank you so much religion.
18:50Similarly, the India-Pakistan conflict.
18:55You really think it's about Kashmir or any other issue?
19:04No.
19:05Let's face the fact.
19:08It's a Hindu-Muslim thing.
19:10Pakistan sees itself as the inheritor of the subcontinent's Muslim legacy and the unfinished
19:24Muslim agenda.
19:25Now, one can contest whether there was anything called a Muslim agenda at all.
19:32But at least the Pakistani generals think that there was one.
19:38And they say we exist to take care of the unfinished agenda.
19:47You look at their weapons.
19:49They are all named after invaders.
19:52Gori, Ghaznavi.
19:55Doesn't that tell you about their mindscape?
20:02The inner environment they are operating in?
20:08Somebody asked them, why have you named your missile as Gori?
20:13They said because India named its missile as Prathvi.
20:17They thought Prathvi means Prathvi Raj Chauhan.
20:23So if you can call it Prathvi, we'll call it Gori.
20:27That kind of tunnel vision.
20:30Don't understand that Prathvi is not necessarily Prathvi Raj Chauhan.
20:38Again, a religious thing.
20:43I am not saying all conflicts are religious.
20:46But religion is a major reason whenever there is a conflict.
20:51Be it riots within a country or be it wars between countries.
20:56It's a major thing.
21:00My religion.
21:03The second world war was so much about race.
21:06My race is superior to yours.
21:11Which is again a thing that's allied with religion.
21:17Race.
21:18You are getting it.
21:28Religion dropped is better than religion left unpurified.
21:32But religion dropped would also mean a great elevating force dropped.
21:44A great possibility, a great potential that could have assisted the human being that has
21:50been forsaken.
21:52That's the problem with dropping religion.
21:57That's the reason why your Gita mission is so important.
22:05Because if religion is not purified, it would either be further contaminated or it would be
22:12dropped.
22:13And both these things are happening.
22:14People are either dropping religion totally or they are getting in the thralls of, in the captivity
22:25of totally contaminated religion.
22:28Don't you see that happening in India?
22:34Those who are gullible, they are taken in by contaminated religion.
22:42And those who have some sense, they say we have nothing to do with religion.
22:46Keep it aside.
22:47Now, both these are imperfect options.
22:52The first one is an outright abominable option and the second one too is suboptimal.
23:04The best option always is to have religion in its pure spirit.
23:11Religion in its pure spirit is a beautiful thing.
23:14It does not engender wars.
23:21Are you getting it?
23:27One is a beast.
23:30One has nothing better in life than to cut open the other's throat.
23:38But one is some kind of a rational beast.
23:43So one seeks to justify cutting open the other's throat.
23:48One says, you know, this is to defend my religion.
23:53The thing is, you are misusing religion in the worst possible way.
24:05You are misusing religion to justify, you are very...
24:18My car is better than your car.
24:22My argument is better than your argument.
24:25And my God is better than your God.
24:30My God is better because he is my God.
24:36And I will spit on your God because he is your God.
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