Sean Combs- The Reckoning - Season 1 Episode 02- What Goes Down Must Come Up
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00:00Happy birthday to you, everybody!
00:23I always looked at him as just being like this rich Harlem cat who just want to dance and
00:48make money.
00:49No violence in him, but every time I turn around, there's violence.
01:04There's violence with his name on it.
01:10At the time, there's this tension that is going on between Pac and Puff.
01:18Puff wanted to work with Pac on a lot of levels business-wise, and Pac wasn't having it.
01:23He was more interested in Biggie and his crew.
01:29Puff was very threatened by Pac.
01:31He was very threatened, especially if you're an executive who wants the guy to make you
01:36money, and the guy is saying, no, fuck you.
01:40Around that time, Tupac was going to do a song with Lil Sean at Quiet Studio.
01:49Out of the blue, they wanted me to do the song, so I said, all right.
01:52Stopped off to get some weed, smoked the weed.
01:55Then I was getting a page, where you at, where you at, where you at?
01:58Why you ain't coming?
01:59I was like, I'm coming, I'm on my way, hold on.
02:01I wasn't thinking, why they want me here so bad?
02:04We're walking up to the building.
02:06Somebody screamed from the upper top of the studio, and it's Lil' Caesar.
02:10He's like Biggie's side man, right?
02:12We was in the recording with Big and Puff, and I'm yelling, like, yo, Pac.
02:15And he looked up, yo, what's up, little nigga?
02:18I go back in the room, I tell Big, I'm like, yo, Big, Pac downstairs.
02:21He was like, oh, all right, go get him.
02:23Getting to the elevator, and when I was about to walk out, two dudes came from both sides.
02:28Get the fuck back in the elevator.
02:30Shit.
02:32Recording artist Tupac Shakur was shot five times last night in a robbery attack.
02:36After surgery, his condition was upgraded to satisfactory, and he checked out of the hospital
02:41against his doctor's advice.
02:43I think they're trying to rub me out, really.
02:45Robbers don't leave behind $80,000 Rolexes, you know what I mean?
02:49They don't do that, in case nobody knows.
02:52Let's look at the facts.
02:56Puff is there.
02:57Pac has been shot in New York under your watch.
03:01Question would be, who knew that he was pulling up?
03:04Biggie, knowing myself, had nothing to do whatsoever of Tupac being robbed.
03:13That's just a fact.
03:15After everything that has unfolded, I have to think twice about how that situation went
03:20down.
03:21Do you think Puffy was robbed, Sugar?
03:23I believe so.
03:24I do believe so.
03:25I have proof.
03:26You can see now why someone like a Puff would want someone like a Pop out the picture.
03:32You know, Pop was vilified while he was alive, and Puff was exalted.
03:41That's the bigger picture.
03:43And that's the story that hasn't been told.
03:55Obviously, Mark Lee, AJ Brown, what have you, it allows them to get a clearer picture,
04:01stretching the defense horizontally faster, right?
04:04And it also, conversely, makes the defense think a tick longer.
04:08Yeah.
04:09Like, that shit was crazy to me, that shit wasn't there, which is a sign to me like,
04:21nigga, time to order the future.
04:22Time to order the future.
04:23That was a little building.
04:25For the building that I got, you know what I'm saying?
04:29It was a sign to me like that, but I'm saying, that shit was there like two months ago, right?
04:34Puff is in this position where he has all this turmoil, but he's not at the point where
04:52he's saying, where I went wrong.
04:55He's saying to himself, how do I get out of this?
04:59Maybe I can convince some witnesses that I'm not the guy who I am.
05:05Eventually, he's going to get to the point where he's going to ask himself, how did I
05:09get myself into this situation?
05:11And Biggie.
05:2295, he had two of the hottest acts.
05:25Craig Mack gave us flavor in your ear.
05:27Here goes the brand new flavor.
05:30Time for new flavor in your ear.
05:32And Biggie.
05:33Come up in your waist.
05:34Please don't suit up the place.
05:35Why?
05:36Cause I see some ladies tonight that should be having my...
05:39Bad boy was rising up.
05:40My little lab right here, you know, where I cut my deals and all that.
05:44Got my little headset.
05:45He's living out a dream, you know what I'm saying?
05:47One time, Sean was in his office and I'm in a little cubby hole around the corner.
05:51He buzzes me.
05:53So I get up and I go in with my papers and go.
05:57A girl is giving him a blow job at the desk.
06:00He wanted me to see that.
06:03He wanted me to see her face.
06:05And then he was able to get her to do that right then and there in the office.
06:08She leaves.
06:10I'm, what did you want me for?
06:12Ah, I didn't want you for anything.
06:14That was the beginning for me to see this is what's going on here.
06:20Can everybody in here make some noise for B.I.G. for bringing it back to the East?
06:24So the seeds for all of this was early on.
06:28And that came from people in the industry co-signing his activity because it brought money in.
06:40I don't know if y'all niggas know this.
06:43The Juicy with platinum.
06:45The Big Purple with platinum.
06:47The Big Purple in your ear remix with platinum.
06:50That whole bad boy thing was so big.
06:54Faith Evans.
06:55I'm gonna be first lady on her daddy's lady.
06:57Total.
07:00Biggie.
07:02In Greg Man.
07:04The thing over here is Greg Man.
07:06It was a consistent back-to-back-to-back-to-back.
07:13So let me just give you a day in the life of Puff Daddy.
07:17Gets up from wherever he stayed that night.
07:21Heads to the office two hours late.
07:24You might have somebody pulling him over saying,
07:26Hey, ain't you in that video?
07:27Ain't that you?
07:28Oh, yo, here go a demo.
07:29I had the big baseball bat cell phones.
07:35And the phone might ring.
07:37Such-and-such is on the phone calling from jail.
07:39Yo, I'm coming home.
07:41You might have a group standing in front of the office.
07:44Already with the microphone ready to sing.
07:46You love me, I love...
07:48Just to get their shot at Puffy.
07:51Everybody wants to see him.
07:53He is now the new gateway into music.
07:55You're gonna take all of this power and money you're getting now
08:01and play by the rules?
08:04No, I'm the rule now.
08:05I am the exception to the rule.
08:08Puff Daddy!
08:13You know what I'm saying?
08:16One day, it seemed like out of the blue, my door opens up.
08:22Sean walks in.
08:24He had a baseball bat.
08:26Had a big attach-a-case suitcase with the snaps on it.
08:30The stocks were there.
08:32We in a fucking hustle.
08:33We in a grind.
08:34Do your job.
08:35Whatever your...
08:36He wanted me to sign my 25% over.
08:39And Diddy's over me like this.
08:41He wants to stop that.
08:43He wants it now.
08:44I'm not gonna stay fucking lying down.
08:46I'm not.
08:47I can't do that, man.
08:48He said, there's a business deal I need to take care of.
08:51I need to do this.
08:52I need to get this all on one side, but I'll give it back to you.
08:55I'm gonna give it back to you.
08:57Shit ain't fucking funny.
08:58That's the problem.
08:59You don't know how to be a accountant.
09:02And he threatened until I did.
09:07People always say to me, why would you do that?
09:12Like, why did you do that?
09:14Like, that was, you know...
09:20I didn't want to give it back.
09:21I wanted to stay in good graces.
09:23I still wanted to be at the company.
09:26It wasn't like he was firing me.
09:29But I was definitely confused by it.
09:33It might sound strange, but if you've ever built something and you want it to last, you think about how to make it last.
09:42I thought he was kind of cool at first, and then we started seeing some things.
10:03Craig started becoming disenchanting.
10:07I want to congratulate Craig Mack on his Grammy nomination.
10:11No question.
10:12Yes, baby, yeah.
10:13That's cool.
10:14Yo, you got nominated for a Grammy, but we had no money.
10:19If you look at Bad Boy, Bad Boy didn't sell enough records to explain his wealth.
10:26But enough artists were on the label that sold enough records to explain his wealth.
10:34Someone's trick was, I'm going to make you a star.
10:36You sign, follow the money.
10:38That's what you're going to try to do as hard as you can.
10:41You're going to try your best, and we know you're going to try your best.
10:44So you sign your deal.
10:45We gave you your advance.
10:46At Uptown, that's the only money the artists have ever seen, that first advance.
10:50Andre had to wait it.
10:51He never saw anything else.
10:52Did he pick that up?
10:54He made it even tighter.
10:57Don't leave the girl around me, true player for real.
11:00Let's Puff that be.
11:01It's a shell game.
11:03You hide everything that is an earning.
11:06You confuse the earnings.
11:08And now I own everything.
11:09You'll go out into the world.
11:11In the shell game, you'll be looking for your money for the next 20 years.
11:14Sean did that to every artist.
11:18You're in the studio.
11:20Now you have to recoup for being in the studio.
11:23Puff owns the studio.
11:26And I have four sessions, which you owe me $400,000.
11:30If Puff records a song with his artist, he pays himself.
11:36If he's in your video, he pays himself.
11:39He insert himself into their videos.
11:42A video come on, you'll be like, I fucking hate that guy.
11:44As an artist, you can go number one.
11:46The song is being played all over the nation.
11:49But you don't have the money to go to it because you're not making the proper money off of your royalties.
11:55Craig and I hit a point where we were fucked up.
12:01No money, nothing.
12:02Hell, I was getting money from my father to take care of the house.
12:08We were all at, like, somebody's album release party.
12:13And Craig's going to tell Puff to give him a few dollars and he'll hit him back once he went and did this show.
12:19He literally went in his pocket and pulled out a knot of money this big and gave him $100 bill.
12:30You really just don't give a fuck.
12:34I think Sean had an envy for his own artists.
12:40He was jealous of their talent and wondering, like, this talent is wasted on people who don't even really know what to do.
12:47And if I had that talent in my know-how, wow.
12:51That's interesting because a lot of people Puffy's age want to grab this mic and rap.
12:56But Puffy, you wanted to do other things and you're doing a lot of them.
13:00Can you talk about his skills as a rapper?
13:02Sucks.
13:03He has zero talent musically, nothing.
13:05He don't know how to discuss.
13:06He don't know nothing about R&B.
13:07He don't know none of that stuff.
13:08He used to ask me to always be there on the sessions because I would tell the truth.
13:12I'd be like, that's not it.
13:14People would be there like, yeah, that was tight.
13:16That was tight.
13:17I'd be like, look, for real, you got a lot of people who just tell you anything.
13:21That sucked.
13:22It doesn't sound good and it makes no sense.
13:26But he always wanted to be an artist.
13:30We're about to just drop our R&B stuff.
13:32The Puff Daddy album.
13:33Yeah, what about the Puff Daddy solo project?
13:35Yeah, we don't like to talk about that to me.
13:38Sean used other methods and ways to get the way he had to go.
13:45Big on strategy, big on swag.
13:49All of those things became important.
13:51When the ball down to the music, even if I didn't touch it, I showed you what to do.
13:56So that's what he was.
13:57Damn, you know what I'm saying?
13:58What?
13:59Right here, right there.
14:00Damn, you know what I'm saying?
14:01Shit.
14:02Where's the makeup at?
14:03Makeup.
14:04Right here, man.
14:05The whole bad boy was built on him.
14:08You cannot take that from him.
14:11But I think that Puffy wanted the light, like he always wanted.
14:16From dancing the whole night, you see anybody that's boasted and loud like that, they want
14:19to be in the spotlight.
14:21It wasn't like no secret, that's what he wanted.
14:26Six foot three, 335 pound, Suge Knight has managed to become the head of a hundred million
14:33dollar record company.
14:34It's the record label at ground zero of the whole gangster rap phenomenon, Death Row Records.
14:40Suge was about that money, but he didn't want to be in that limelight like Puff.
14:46He had his own lane.
14:48You're a big guy and there are people who are afraid of you.
14:51There's probably people who are afraid of you.
14:53Back in 1988, the person who did the greatest job of protecting me was the head of my security
14:58at the time, Suge Knight.
15:00Right now I'm on the heartbreak tour with Bobby Brown in New Edition and we've been out
15:04since September.
15:05We're about to get on the tour bus and these dudes came over and he was like talking crazy.
15:09Y'all niggas this, y'all niggas that, this, this, this.
15:14And I seen Suge kind of just turned this way and gave him one of these.
15:20Bam!
15:21Like that.
15:22And knocked dude down the hill.
15:24And it looked like a cartoon.
15:25Dude was rolling down the hill.
15:27Boom, boom.
15:28It's Tim's skateboard.
15:29He's a street dude.
15:31He's a real street dude.
15:33But Suge knew talent and he knew business.
15:36They took me on tour and I learned how every person who's writing songs is getting beat
15:43out their money, like they're publishing.
15:44He was able to dovetail that into starting Death Row Records.
15:48One, two, three, bring it to the folk.
15:51Snoop Doggy Dogg and Dr. Dre is at the door.
15:54Death Row can be bigger than Motel or Sony or Warner Brothers.
15:59Death Row is going to be the biggest record company there is.
16:02Chronic album is the foundation.
16:04Before Bad Boy, Death Row was the most successful label in the business.
16:11Sean had admired Death Row and wanted us to emulate them.
16:17And that was my job.
16:19How do I make Bad Boy equal to success of Death Row?
16:24And of course, my eyes was like this.
16:26Death Row?
16:27They had a head start.
16:29They had artists.
16:30They picked superstars up from other indie labels.
16:32We're starting off.
16:34Me and him were friends.
16:36Wow.
16:37Yeah, yeah.
16:38He would pick me up from the airport.
16:39You know, I was just networking with the brother and show me a lot of love.
16:43You know, I really had thought we were cool.
16:46Me and Puffy, we used to run around with each other.
16:48He was getting into business.
16:49I was in the business.
16:51Living life without fear.
16:53Putting fire...
16:54Only a few years later, Bad Boy, Death Row.
16:57Death Row is the label that pays, man.
16:59The two hottest labels.
17:02But I would look over at Death Row and say,
17:05they're taking care of their artists better than we are.
17:08They're putting your head, fuck the artists.
17:11And my thing was opposite.
17:13It's about me and my people.
17:15Fuck you.
17:17Craig wasn't happy there.
17:20Death Row was courting him.
17:22Because Should was opening up a Death Row East.
17:25And it was found out.
17:27Shot by the face.
17:28Yes.
17:29It's the Source Hip Hop Music Awards!
17:39The Source Awards was happening in New York City.
17:46Come on, New York!
17:48And behind the scenes, people were running back and forth to the next dressing room, to the next dressing room, which were in trailers, parked outside of Madison Square Garden.
17:58How important is it to have the Source Awards?
18:01Let me just wait and find it.
18:03You got that?
18:04Come on, man. Who bagging on the door like that?
18:06What is the deal, man? Keep the door closed!
18:10And it escalated with words from the podium at the awards show.
18:15Any artists out there who want to be an artist and want to stay a star and don't want to have to worry about the executive producer trying to be all in the videos, all on the record, dancing.
18:27Come to Death Row.
18:37I'm the executive producer that a comment was made about a little bit earlier.
18:41But check this out.
18:42Contrary to what other people may feel, I would like to say that I'm very proud of Dr. Dre, of Death Row, and Shook Knight for their accomplishments.
18:51You know what I'm saying?
18:53I'm a positive black man, and I make music to bring us together, not to separate us.
18:58And all this East and West that needs to stop.
19:00So give it up for everybody from the East and the West that won tonight.
19:04One love.
19:06Sean wants to present strength.
19:08He wants to show coolness.
19:12And then there's a side of him that's all out dark.
19:16He processes things differently.
19:18He remembers every slight.
19:23Once again, y'all, please give it up for all the nominees.
19:27Before I signed with Bad Boy, I was working at the door of the club in Platinum House.
19:48Every Friday we had a bad boy party.
19:52So Puff was there.
19:54Suge Knight came that night with his friend Jake.
19:58And I was working the door.
19:59Suge was looking for Puff.
20:01Sean would try to go after people's side chicks, like a girl in Atlanta that Suge was dealing with.
20:14Sean wanted me to take $50,000 out of the overhead account so he could buy her a diamond necklace,
20:22wooing her because she was Suge's side piece in Atlanta when he came there.
20:31A real police officer in a real police uniform came and got on the shape.
20:37I said, man, you touch the homie. We're going to tear this mother up.
20:41He said, well, I got to throw him out. I said, for what?
20:43He said, he was puppy.
20:44Suge and Jake is being escorted out the club by the off-duty officer we always had there moonlighting.
20:55Jake comes out, Suge come out, Puff come out. Everybody's outside.
21:01A man appeared with one hand behind his back and he was holding a pistol.
21:07He touched Jake with the pistol and he looked at Suge like this and was shooting Suge Fran like this.
21:18He shot him five times.
21:23Suge grabbed the hold to Puffy and the choke hold and put him in the front of him like this.
21:30So he was moving Puff around like this in case you shoot him.
21:33You're going to shoot Puffy. You're not going to shoot me.
21:35Puff was like, it's going to be all right, man. It's going to be all right.
21:43Suge said, what you mean it's going to be all right?
21:47He said, tell your mama it's going to be all right.
21:50Tell your kids it's going to be all right.
21:53And then the shooter ran.
21:59Ambulance came and took Jake to the hospital.
22:02A couple of days later, he died.
22:06That's what started the East Coast, West Coast war.
22:12We're through. We're through. We're through. We're through. We're through.
22:15We're through. We're through. We're through.
22:17Tupac Shakur out of the hospital after surgery from bullet wounds is convicted on sex charges.
22:21After Puff gets shot in Quad studio. He had the rape case.
22:27A New York jury convicted the rapper of first degree sexual abuse, but acquitted him of more serious charges.
22:32Since your period of incarceration at Clinton Correctional Facility, have you taken the time to reflect on your gangster thug image?
22:43Puck and Big were friends at one time. But then once Puck is in jail, Bad Boy and all of his associations were nemesises.
22:56When I'm in jail, strangers is telling me, you know, you don't know? Big your old boy shot you.
23:04Cause they bragging. They telling their in jail. Yo, we just got Puck.
23:08Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
23:11Once the conflict happens, Puck needed someone strong that was going to stand with him.
23:20And it had just so happened that Suge had his own issue with Puffy.
23:26So Suge went to jail and visited him.
23:29The whole shit was like some mob shit.
23:32mob ship into tupac a young cat i'm gonna join the family dog get me out
23:43suge knight first signed tupac to a recording contract when tupac was in this new york state
23:49prison unable to come up with the million dollars needed for bail while his lawyers
23:53appealed a 1995 conviction for sexual assault
23:57i want everybody to give a big welcome from tupac
24:07out on bail rapper tupac shakur's rushed to market double album all eyes on me debuts at number one
24:12on this week's billboard chart with the addition of tupac there's no way y'all can stop us now
24:21we're coming to the east coast to prove there is no fear overthrow the government y'all got right
24:25man which is bad boy and all that and we will bring a new government here that will feed every
24:30person in new york all right cool man all right man thanks a lot sean tried everything to get biggie
24:37upset he had to go at him with business this guy came at us i was more in a mind frame uh
24:47keep your mouth shut big you know what i'm saying just don't feed into it if you feed into it it's
24:53gonna do nothing but escalate you know what i'm saying biggie never wanted to be an enemy to park
24:59as things was coming from the west coast biggie did not want to give any shots back when pop was
25:07producing all eyes on me he called us and said i just faith evidence big's wife
25:13he's like what first though fuck your bitch and the click you claim west side when we ride come
25:20equipped with game you claim to be a player but i fucked your wife we bought something that's not true at
25:25all biggest though my husband legally i am having his baby no i'm not sean kept putting pressure on biggie
25:32you gotta answer back tupac had me pissed off you know what i'm saying and the rumors
25:39that's spreading it's on some tip like we set them up you know what i'm saying and that's crazy
25:45the east coast west coast thing was invented period because no matter what we all went to the east
25:51they came here went to the west whatever they wasn't arguing with each other but we was able to roam
25:56it was this bad boy in death row and that right there put people in danger because it made people
26:08be like f you f you and people started doing stuff for no reason because there's no it's just people
26:14that want to ride for each other and then look what happened so doing the street thing my affiliation
26:26was with the mansfield hustlers today uh we go by mansfield gangster crips now police say the drugs
26:37and violence are being spread by two long-standing rivals in the los angeles youth gang scene groups who
26:43call themselves crips and wear blue colors and bloods who wear red did you guys provide protection sean
26:52cones was a friend christopher wallace was a friend and you know when we hanging out with our friends
27:04we're gonna protect our friends so they knew and they were our associates you got beef with them you
27:13got beef with me period a number of reports have come out bad boy entertainment had actually hired
27:19crips for security work out on the west coast is that true um we've never hired crips or any other
27:27gang faction to do security for us it would be extremely unintelligent to hire um a gang some
27:35gangs to do security for you a lot of the new york guys come out to la zip is a person that i know
27:41that was puppy's man that was his guy eric von zip is a drug lord from harlem but sean told me he was his
27:53uncle he might have known janice on the fringe he might have known sean's father from those days
28:00zip had a relationship with the south side crips and then he also had a relationship with us sean said
28:09zip can give us protection going back and forth to la because he was in with the crips and we had a
28:16beef with shook knight and the bloods knight dresses in all red the colors of the drug dealing blood street
28:23gang one of the death row people got jumped by someone at a mall and that someone was from south side
28:34crips one of the crips tried to take a death row chain i think that was an order from bad boy that was
28:41an order from puff because it was specific we want a death row chain introducing the one and only iron mike tyson
28:53everybody got what they wanted that night people got to see tyson knock a motherfucker out and tyson with a
29:06left hook and selling his down it's over in the first round
29:12that's probably the reason this guy was all up in a lot of
29:15shit from fight night when you seen a tyson fight you want to fight
29:29at the fight the guy who was ripped off for the death row chain is with suge and pop
29:36it was Orlando Anderson from south side crips who was connected with puff
29:50next thing i see i see like
29:52Like, phew, it's like your niggas down.
30:04That was the foundational moment
30:07when all this was getting out of control.
30:10I'm out of one right now.
30:13I got a double guy shot and a medical ASAP.
30:16Rapper Tupac Shakur was shot in the chest...
30:22...this morning shot multiple times in the chest
30:24in a drive-by shooting.
30:25Death Row record label owner Marion Shug Knight
30:28was also in the car, but his injuries were minor.
30:31Craig called me up. It was late.
30:35He was out there at the fight
30:37because he was supposed to have performed
30:39at some club that Shug owned.
30:44And I guess Tupac was supposed to come through.
30:46He was like, how come Tupac just got shot?
30:51Craig was, like, scared.
30:53Who was he scared of?
30:54Probably Puff.
30:57He ended up not going to Death Row after that.
31:04Hi, I'm Tabitha Soren with MTV News.
31:06Controversial rapper and actor Tupac Shakur
31:08has died in a Las Vegas hospital
31:10of complications from several...
31:12I was in jail.
31:13I was in jail when he got shot.
31:16There was a lot of niggas in jail
31:18that were celebrating Pac's death.
31:22I'm glad that I didn't kill anybody
31:25or anybody killed me.
31:26But I damn sure came close.
31:31Police in Las Vegas say they have no motive
31:34for this latest shooting,
31:35but the rapper's troubled past
31:37will certainly be part of the investigation.
31:41Do you know who was responsible
31:43for the killing of Tupac Shakur?
31:45No, I don't.
31:47I think that Sean now, in my mature mind,
31:52had a lot to do with the death of Tupac.
31:55In 2006, I was recruited to work a task force
32:07that was going to look at a cold case investigation.
32:11At the time, Tupac's murder was an unsolved case.
32:16Gang crimes oftentimes are difficult to solve
32:18because you don't get cooperating witnesses.
32:21They want to stick to a code
32:23that typically entails not cooperating
32:26with law enforcement
32:27and then taking matters into your own hands.
32:30It ain't my job to snitch on nobody,
32:33because I would never snitch on nobody.
32:34We had built a narcotics case against Keefie D.
32:39Keefie D was kind of the shock caller
32:41for the Southside Crips.
32:43He was the most prominent drug dealer.
32:45He was very influential in his gang.
32:48His nephew, Orlando Anderson,
32:50was a very well-known violent gang member.
32:55Tupac Shakur had assaulted Orlando Anderson
32:57just after the Mike Tyson fight.
33:01So Keefie D was potentially looking at a life sentence.
33:04for federal drug trafficking.
33:07We wanted to question him
33:08about his potential role
33:10in the murder of Tupac Shakur.
33:12We let him know
33:13that he could potentially mitigate
33:15some of the damages
33:16if he wanted to come in and talk to us.
33:18And the U.S. attorney agreed
33:21that they'd allow Keefie D. to do a proper session.
33:25Keefie, today what we're going to do,
33:26we're just going to go over with a fine-tooth comb
33:29to the Las Vegas incident.
33:30We do have to emphasize to you
33:33it's determined that some of these details
33:35are incorrect and everything's off the table.
33:38A proper session is when
33:40a person facing criminal charges
33:42can answer questions
33:43wherein self-incriminating information
33:46would not be used against him
33:48in a criminal prosecution.
33:50It doesn't mean they have any kind of immunity.
33:54Hey, I want to say this story, too.
33:57I feel, like I said that day,
33:59don't bullshit me
34:00and I won't bullshit y'all.
34:02You know what I'm saying?
34:03In the year prior
34:04to the murder of Tupac Shakur,
34:06he has had several conversations
34:09with Sean Combs.
34:11I met him all.
34:12He gave a party at
34:13Southern Club down in Santa Monica.
34:17That's where I met him.
34:18The first day I met him.
34:19Sean Combs' affiliation
34:22with the Southside Crips
34:23came by way of a New York street figure
34:26known as Zip.
34:29Zip set up the introduction
34:31between Combs and Keefee Dee
34:33and then they developed
34:35their own relationship.
34:37And Zip introduced,
34:38he said, this is my boy.
34:39What are you introducing, man?
34:40This is my friend.
34:41This is my nephew.
34:41That's my boy.
34:42My boy.
34:43This is Pup.
34:44And after that,
34:45they used my car on the video.
34:47Which car was that?
34:49The 64 Chevy I have.
34:55What color was it?
34:56Blown.
34:57I was actually a video
34:58and Pup was driving the car.
35:00Usher, for her song,
35:00whatever,
35:01he was in a Laker uniform
35:02and he had the little kid
35:03dancing on my car
35:04when he got back.
35:06It was fucked up
35:06and he paid
35:08to get it repainted.
35:15Pup, he called Zip on
35:16and he wanted to speak to me.
35:18They gave it up.
35:19He took to her.
35:20And then I,
35:21he gave us some tickets
35:22and I brought the crew.
35:23Say, I want to have
35:25a new flavor in your hair.
35:26I want to have a new flavor.
35:28Check it out.
35:29Check it.
35:30Yeah.
35:30To all the ladies
35:31in the place.
35:32Keefy D says
35:33that Sean Combs
35:34kind of makes
35:35this general announcement
35:37while they were
35:39all inside a hotel room
35:40after a musical event.
35:42So it's Harrell,
35:45Buffy, Zip,
35:46you.
35:47About 40-something
35:48off-siders.
35:49Yeah.
35:50That was stupid as hell
35:51too, you know.
35:54Shit, he said
35:54he didn't kill us anything
35:55for no dudes there,
35:57you know.
35:57Tupac and Shug,
35:58you mean?
35:59Yeah.
35:59He said it in front
36:01of all those people
36:01I couldn't believe him.
36:03You know what I'm saying?
36:05All home full of trips.
36:07So this is after
36:07Jake got killed.
36:09So he was on point.
36:10He was worried
36:10about something happening.
36:11Yeah.
36:12So he got miles off
36:13about a bunch
36:13of different stuff
36:14so he was scared.
36:14No, he was scared
36:15to death.
36:16Yeah.
36:16Okay.
36:16Okay.
36:18Then there's a more
36:19specific incident
36:20that takes place
36:21at a deli
36:21on Sunset Strip
36:22in Los Angeles,
36:23a place called
36:24Greenblatt's Deli.
36:25What made it a specific
36:27like, hey, I'm serious,
36:28I want you guys
36:28to kill these guys?
36:31Well, he told me
36:32the Greenbackers.
36:34When we got there
36:35we were laughing at him
36:36because he was just
36:37brought a suck dick
36:38to suck every dick
36:40in there.
36:40He hung up kissing
36:41or whatever.
36:42We were laughing
36:42like a woman.
36:43Man, what you laughing
36:44at, dog?
36:45Man, don't just come
36:46out here and get
36:47in any brawl, dog.
36:49I took him downstairs
36:50and he's like,
36:51man, I gotta get rid
36:52of those dudes, man.
36:54It's gonna be a problem.
36:55It was after he made
36:59the wreck.
37:00Hit him up, came out.
37:01Yeah, yeah,
37:01that pissed him off.
37:06Yeah, we wanted a million.
37:09He tells you,
37:11seriously, man,
37:11I need to get rid
37:12of these guys.
37:12I mean, he's looking
37:13at you in the eyes
37:14and he's like scared.
37:15Yeah.
37:16You tell him,
37:17we'll do it for a million
37:18and he's like,
37:19okay, I'll do it
37:21for a million?
37:22He agrees,
37:22he shaved on
37:23or something like that?
37:24Yeah.
37:25Whatever.
37:26You know,
37:26he, uh,
37:28I meant our shit out.
37:29We'll wipe the ass
37:30out quick.
37:31You know,
37:31it's nothing.
37:34Here we go,
37:35round one.
37:36Scheduled for 12.
37:37And Tyson comes
37:38right up,
37:39right up.
37:39He says that when Las Vegas
37:41happens and they're
37:42all out there
37:43and his nephew
37:44gets assaulted
37:44by Tupac,
37:45they're like,
37:45this is the perfect
37:46occasion.
37:48We was eating
37:49and they came
37:50and said,
37:51he just beat up
37:53lane.
37:54And we was in the hotel
37:55and the MGM
37:57and the restaurant.
37:58There was a few New Yorkers
37:59though,
37:59we were with Zip.
38:01Like, man,
38:02y'all need some help?
38:04We got this.
38:05It's your perfect
38:06opportunity, baby.
38:08Remember Zip coming?
38:09Yeah.
38:09Because of what happened
38:10with Zip.
38:10The vehicle
38:27that Zip was driving
38:28that night
38:29reportedly had
38:30what we call
38:30a trap in it,
38:31which is a concealed
38:33compartment
38:34where you can place
38:35a gun.
38:37It's a difficult
38:38thing to find.
38:40Zip had driven
38:41that car
38:42to Las Vegas.
38:44A few days
38:45before Tupac
38:46was murdered,
38:47Sean requested
38:48that we rent cars
38:51and have
38:53multiple drivers
38:54drive clear
38:56across the country
38:57to this fight.
39:00But I arranged
39:01through my budget
39:03to make that trip
39:04happen for those drivers.
39:07And to this day,
39:08it stands out
39:08in my mind.
39:10Why did we rent
39:11multiple cars?
39:12Why did we hire
39:13people from Harlem
39:15and other locations
39:16to drive?
39:21You tell us if,
39:22hey, we're going to go
39:23handle this shit
39:23or whatever?
39:24Yeah, they asked,
39:25like, if y'all want us to come?
39:27Like, we know
39:28where them motherfuckers
39:28at.
39:29They were telling us
39:29they're going to be
39:30at the 662 Club.
39:31Two cars go to 662?
39:33Yeah.
39:34The van and the cabin.
39:36They didn't show up.
39:37We waited about 15,
39:3920 minutes.
39:39They didn't show up.
39:41So it's like,
39:42let's go get some liquor.
39:44Then we came up
39:45at Harlem
39:46at the Las Vegas
39:47Boulevard.
39:49And, oh, shit.
39:50Here they come
39:51in that BMW.
39:52They can't get cars.
39:53On their way
39:54to the club,
39:55Suge is blaring
39:56his music too loud.
39:58He gets pulled over
39:59by some police officers.
40:01They essentially,
40:02you know, say,
40:03just turn down your music.
40:04No big deal.
40:05And it's at this point
40:06in time that Suge
40:07and Tupac
40:09see these girls.
40:11Like, they're Suge.
40:12Suge.
40:12Like, the police
40:13were going through
40:13his car or something
40:15or another.
40:15And then the traffic
40:17was stopped
40:18and then they got
40:18in the car.
40:19Did you see
40:20who was with Suge?
40:21Um, I thought
40:22it was Tupac.
40:23And then he was like,
40:24come on, come go with me.
40:26Come go with us.
40:27We're going to 662.
40:28I'm browsing.
40:29Tupac!
40:31Tupac!
40:31And we like,
40:32there they go.
40:33Just one of the U-turn.
40:35And we just pulled up
40:36on the side
40:36and checked their car
40:37and see where they was.
40:38So what directed
40:39your attention to them
40:40was some girl
40:40shouting at Tupac?
40:42Tupac!
40:43He gave us up away.
40:44Otherwise,
40:45they would have got away.
40:47And he leaned over
40:49on the window
40:50and we rolled around
40:50the window and popped.
40:53He should look over
40:54and he sees you.
40:55Yeah.
40:56Yeah, he looked at him.
40:57Okay.
40:59Fuck is he doing
40:59what he does
41:00since we were seven,
41:01eight years old?
41:03I seen a bully
41:04going shit again.
41:05I thought he was dead.
41:07I thought he was dead.
41:09If you knew
41:10who killed Tupac,
41:11would you tell the police?
41:13Absolutely not.
41:15I want to park the car
41:17and put the gun
41:19on the tire
41:19and look.
41:20Where'd you guys go?
41:21We smoke weed and rain.
41:23Yeah, that's weird.
41:24What?
41:25They don't tell them.
41:25They're a party in the room.
41:27And they pulled up
41:28in the ambulance
41:28while we were standing
41:29right there.
41:31Take our bullshit.
41:32You guys on the street
41:33where's with?
41:34We on Las Vegas Boulevard
41:35at the crosswalk
41:36and they pull up
41:37the ambulance
41:38right next to us.
41:39With him in the car already?
41:41With Tupac and Chug
41:42in the car.
41:43It's close.
41:44Did they see you?
41:46No, they couldn't see.
41:47We didn't give a fuck.
41:48We didn't give a fuck.
41:48They're talking about
41:49the ambulance
41:50to park right here.
41:51Right next to us.
41:52That shit was funny
41:53in the car.
41:57And I haven't ever
41:58told nobody this.
42:01So you get back to LA
42:02in the next day.
42:03Zip calls.
42:04You says,
42:04meet me at the hot
42:05with the place we're at.
42:06We're going to mail
42:07her.
42:07In the MIPs.
42:08You guys go over there.
42:09Zip shows up.
42:10You guys,
42:11what happens to that?
42:11People call it.
42:13Was that us?
42:13That us?
42:14He told them,
42:14yeah, it was us.
42:15On Zip's phone
42:16or your phone?
42:16On Zip's phone.
42:18And Zip gives you
42:19the phone?
42:20Yeah.
42:21People say,
42:22well, that's us.
42:23He was happier there
42:24or shit.
42:24And did you ask him
42:25the ambulance money?
42:26When you're going
42:26to get paid
42:27or whatever?
42:27No, I don't know
42:28how to say that
42:29on the phone.
42:29Zip, go get our cash.
42:32Okay, so you tell Zip
42:33we need to get paid.
42:35What does Zip say?
42:36I'm going to go back
42:37home and have it?
42:37Yeah, I'll get back
42:38with y'all.
42:39Yeah.
42:39According to Keefy D,
42:43he was never compensated
42:44for the murder.
42:47But he said
42:48that a partial amount
42:50of the money
42:50was intended
42:51to be forwarded
42:52to him
42:53through Zip
42:54to the tune
42:55of about $500,000.
42:57The million dollar
42:59solicitation amount,
43:01only half of it
43:02was fulfilled
43:03because only Tupac
43:04and not Shug
43:06was killed.
43:08Keefy D has a conversation
43:10with Darius Rogers
43:11with DMACC.
43:12He don't let the DMACC
43:13do this to the DMACC
43:14right there.
43:16And DMACC says
43:18there had been a payment
43:19from Combs
43:21to Keefy D,
43:23but it had gone
43:24through Zip
43:25and then that money
43:26was never forwarded.
43:28We're just hoping
43:32and waiting
43:33to see what kind
43:34of progress
43:34Las Vegas would make
43:36with Keefy D's cooperation.
43:40Nothing really happens.
43:43Ultimately,
43:45Zip dies from cancer.
43:48Thank you for coming
43:48out to Zips
43:49and I want everybody
43:50to know that
43:51when you come here,
43:52we want to keep
43:53and Orlando Anderson
43:55is shot and killed
43:56in 1998.
43:58So,
43:59it's really Keefy D
44:00and Puffy Combs
44:02are the last men standing.
44:03They can be held accountable
44:05for Tupac Shakur's murder.
44:06Keefy D,
44:36and Puffy Combs
45:06I remember 99,
45:11we were working
45:11in the studio
45:12on a song called
45:13Muscle Gang.
45:15This is our game.
45:18We ain't playing
45:19with you these niggas.
45:21Come on, man.
45:22The song comes on
45:23and Puff is talking
45:24in the beginning.
45:25It's 1999.
45:29No more Mr. Nice guys.
45:31I'm like,
45:31what is he talking about?
45:34Talk with me,
45:35I dropped a million dollars
45:36on your head.
45:36Everything that's done
45:42in the dark
45:43must come to light.
45:45Everything that goes up
45:46must come down.
45:47We'll be right.
45:49We'll be right.
45:50Yeah, I'm headed to
46:08hunt 13th and Lennox, King.
46:10I gotta catch my man.
46:11Okay, I'll see you up here.
46:13I'll see you up here.
46:14Are y'all rolling?
46:15Yeah, we rolling.
46:16With the backdrop of East Coast,
46:30West Coast beef,
46:31Sean took Biggie to Los Angeles
46:33to record what would be
46:36the finishing touches
46:37on Biggie's
46:38Life After Death album,
46:39which wasn't titled that yet.
46:41Yo.
46:47Yo, baby, wake up.
46:47Wake up, baby.
46:48Diddy, what the fuck, man?
46:49What's up?
46:50Come on, man.
46:51It's a quarter to six.
46:51We got the 7.30 flight
46:53going to LAX.
46:54Oh, Cali?
46:56No doubt, baby.
46:58We had been warned
46:59to not come to LA.
47:02There were warnings
47:02all along
47:03for the last few months
47:04that we are not
47:05to set foot
47:06on the West Coast.
47:09It was awards show season,
47:11and Sean wanted him
47:13to start promoting the album.
47:16Come on, Saltrain.
47:17Get up out your seats.
47:18Come on.
47:19Get up out your seats.
47:21Biggie did not want to go,
47:23but Sean talked him
47:25into doing all
47:26of those things.
47:27Down low,
47:28get up out your seats.
47:29Come on.
47:30High pop for a freak.
47:31All the honey.
47:32They were like
47:33catcalling and booing.
47:42What's up, Cali?
47:44We were not welcome.
47:47After the awards show,
47:48Saturday morning,
47:51Biggie and I were
47:51to go to London,
47:52and we were going to have
47:53a two, three-day
47:54press jump get.
47:55To have Biggie be
47:56one of the first artists
47:58from Bad Boy
47:59to meet the European press.
48:01I had worked on that
48:03for months and weeks
48:03leading up.
48:05We were supposed to go
48:06to the airport.
48:07That morning,
48:08I'm calling Biggie
48:09like crazy.
48:10What's going on?
48:11Wake up.
48:12He's like,
48:12yo, Puff is bugging.
48:14He just called me
48:15and told me,
48:16I want you to stay here
48:17in L.A.
48:18I don't want to stay.
48:19I want to go.
48:21But Sean was adamant.
48:25Cancel the flight.
48:27Biggie's not going to the U.K.
48:29What do you mean
48:29he's not going to click?
48:30He hangs up.
48:32This was his M.O.
48:33Ego,
48:35power,
48:36tripping,
48:37all of it
48:38because Sean
48:39wanted to do a party
48:41on enemy turf.
48:46I'm scared to death.
48:48That's how real it is.
48:52I think somebody's
48:53trying to kill me.
48:54I'll be waking up paranoid.
48:55I'll be really scared.
48:57I'll just be peril.
49:03That night,
49:05Big and Puffy
49:07was with us.
49:13They were having a party.
49:18I spoke to Big
49:21and I was like,
49:22yo, man,
49:23you know,
49:24what are you doing?
49:26Cats in L.A.,
49:28man,
49:28they get down
49:29in these circumstances,
49:30man,
49:30and you just can't be
49:31walking around here freely.
49:42Everybody's mean.
49:46I look around,
49:47I say,
49:48where's Big?
49:51I want to get out.
49:52Get out.
49:53They're running,
49:54they say,
49:54wait,
49:54hold up,
49:54hold up.
49:55This is the street.
49:57Zoom in.
49:57Zoom in.
49:58Run in.
49:58Shoot.
50:07That's Big and Puffy.
50:08That is Big and Puffy.
50:09That is Big and Puffy.
50:09Y'all get down.
50:10That is Big and Puffy.
50:11Somebody's got shot.
50:12Y'all get down.
50:15What are you reporting?
50:16Yeah,
50:17we need an ambulance.
50:18on Fairfax and Wilshire.
50:20Please,
50:20Los Angeles.
50:21We have a man shot.
50:22We have a man shot.
50:23Okay,
50:24hold on.
50:25I'll get that.
50:25Run on the corner of
50:26Wilshire and Fairfax.
50:27Fairfax.
50:29Let's go,
50:29let's go.
50:29Hold on.
50:30Listen,
50:31sir,
50:31I can't hear what you're saying.
50:33We're man shot in our car right now.
50:36Right now,
50:37we're trying to roll
50:37into the hospital.
50:39I know the way.
50:40See the sign-up.
50:42I gotta go back.
50:43You gotta turn around,
50:44Jimmy.
50:44You're going the wrong way.
50:45What the fuck is wrong
50:46with y'all, man?
50:47What's going on?
50:48Yo, Big,
50:49I was following Big's lead
50:57on, like,
50:58you know,
50:58we're going to do this peace tour.
51:01And,
51:02you know,
51:04it didn't work out.
51:06Sean said,
51:07it's on can't stop,
51:08won't stop.
51:08Biggie wanted to go.
51:10He's lying about that.
51:18Sean wanted that trip
51:19and was pushing it
51:21for weeks and weeks.
51:23He lied about it
51:24and let me know
51:26that's a weak spot for him
51:28and he's nervous
51:29about that information.
51:36He ushered Biggie
51:37to his death.
51:40Who do you think
51:43called Biggie?
51:47Next question.
51:51All it was
51:52is a Puffy
51:52and Suge Knight war.
51:55You're messing
51:55with lives here
51:56and that's exactly
51:57what happened.
51:58Two lives were lost
51:59as a result of what?
52:01Stupidity?
52:03When I sat down
52:04with Valetta,
52:05we briefly brought up
52:06Sean Combs.
52:08It was clear to me
52:09that she had no real
52:10respect or appreciation
52:11for him.
52:13Sean clearly didn't do
52:14all that he could have
52:15done to help out
52:16in the investigation.
52:17In fact,
52:18he was a hindrance
52:19in the investigation.
52:21Puffy was kind of
52:22stonewalling people
52:23from talking
52:24because he knows
52:25because he knows
52:25if you make inroads
52:27on Biggie's murder,
52:28you're going to make inroads
52:30on Tupac's murder
52:31and that potentially
52:32can lead right back
52:33to him.
52:36Now we're Biggie's mom
52:38and Faith
52:38and the kids
52:39taking all this.
52:40Biggie's mom
52:42and Faith
52:42and the children
52:43are extremely strong.
52:44They've been,
52:45matter of fact,
52:45they've been strong
52:47for me
52:47and helping
52:47to hold me up.
52:49Sean assumed
52:51the position
52:51of his best friend
52:53in every article
52:54and publication
52:56and that wasn't
52:58necessarily true.
52:59And I'm going
53:00to be there for them
53:01just like he would
53:02be there for them
53:02to make sure
53:03that they're all right.
53:04Sean said,
53:05we're going to do
53:05the biggest funeral
53:06for Biggie
53:07that New York
53:08has ever seen.
53:10And we start
53:11to put that together.
53:12He starts to see
53:13the price.
53:14And he says,
53:15we're going to do
53:15the biggest funeral
53:16but Biggie's going
53:18to have to pay
53:18for this funeral.
53:21He was going
53:21to make the funeral
53:22be a recoupable
53:24charge
53:25to Biggie
53:26and death.
53:28This is one
53:29of my closest friends
53:30and it's still
53:31one of my closest friends.
53:33I just,
53:34I feel his loss.
53:35I just miss him
53:36so much.
53:38Sean doing
53:39a big show
53:40looks good
53:40on him
53:41but he's not
53:43going to tell
53:44the world
53:44that Biggie
53:45was going
53:45to pay for it.
53:54In Bestar,
53:56Brooklyn,
53:56the whole
53:57hood was outside.
54:00If you could make
54:00it there,
54:01you was there.
54:03It was a big
54:04loss for the city.
54:05I loved Biggie.
54:09Biggie inspired me.
54:10He gave me hope.
54:11He made us feel
54:12like you was
54:12from the town.
54:13You could make it.
54:14We loved Biggie
54:15so it was like
54:16losing a family member.
54:19Biggie just wanted
54:20to be a rap superstar.
54:22He didn't want
54:23to hurt nobody.
54:26He was probably
54:26one of the only people
54:27I had really trusted
54:28for a long time.
54:30It's not a feeling
54:30that I really felt a lot
54:32like in my life.
54:33I don't really have
54:34a lot of friends.
54:35I think people think
54:36I have a lot of friends,
54:37you know.
54:39I don't think
54:40I really make
54:41a good friend.
54:43Before he was
54:44assassinated,
54:45Biggie had
54:46an opportunity
54:47to be on the cover
54:49of Rolling Stone.
54:51We were delivering
54:52the elements
54:53so that can happen
54:54and Sean called me
54:55and said,
54:56pull that cover.
54:57I need to be
54:58on the cover.
54:58My solo album
55:00is coming in July,
55:01No Way Out,
55:03and I need
55:03to amp that up.
55:07He took the cover
55:08from Biggie.
55:14Another thing
55:14at the time,
55:15Biggie was negotiating
55:17his contract.
55:18Every day I wake up.
55:20We acquiesced
55:22and gave him
55:23everything he wanted
55:23and then he died.
55:25Can't believe
55:26you ain't here.
55:28Sean wanted me
55:30to change
55:31the agreement
55:32to more favorable
55:33terms for bad boy
55:35and his family
55:36and mother
55:36would not know.
55:38And since he had
55:38signed the agreement,
55:40he wanted
55:41those changes
55:42to come from
55:43out of the center
55:44of the agreement
55:45and have those pages
55:46replaced with
55:47the other terms.
55:48And I said,
55:49that's not right.
55:49I'm not doing it.
55:5190 days later,
55:52I'm fired.
55:54It's like I feel
55:55empty inside
55:56without you being here.
55:58I remember
56:05Michael Jackson,
56:07the Motown 25 special.
56:08MTV,
56:09Madonna,
56:10Like a Virgin.
56:11And I remember
56:11Puff
56:12with Sting.
56:14Check it out.
56:15having a TV moment
56:22in music
56:23that's very rare.
56:24It elevates you
56:25to such another level
56:27of superstar.
56:28It made him
56:29rock star bitch.
56:30It's kind of hard
56:32when you're not around.
56:33Know you're in heaven
56:34smiling down.
56:35Watching us
56:36while we pray for you.
56:37He became humongous.
56:39But now it's him.
56:40Now I'm the man.
56:42It was like a dream
56:43come true
56:44to see the lines
56:46like in front of
56:47the stores.
56:48Like people going there
56:49to get my record.
56:51It's crazy.
56:52It all happened
56:52pretty quickly for you
56:53from being an intern
56:54to being on the cover
56:56of the Rolling Stones.
56:58Thanks for Biggie's
56:59mother who's sitting
57:00right there
57:00for having
57:01notorious V.I.G.
57:04You've abused everyone
57:05and used
57:06most of everyone.
57:08Put your legs
57:08in the air for V.I.G.
57:10Everybody put your legs
57:11in the air for stuff.
57:12There are horror stories
57:13like this
57:14all throughout.
57:16Cleared of gun possession
57:17and bribery charges
57:18Sean Puffy Combs
57:20walked out of free man.
57:21Some people speak up
57:22about it.
57:23Most do not.
57:24The first member
57:25is
57:26Aubrey.
57:28It's a pattern
57:30with him.
57:30Come in, daddy, baby.
57:32Violence was a very
57:34normalized part
57:35of living in that world.
57:36Hey, yo,
57:37you're a bad boy now.
57:39Allegations of
57:40sexual misconduct.
57:41Huffy called
57:41these encounters
57:42free calls.
57:43Witnessed Diddy
57:44abusing Cassie
57:45and that they
57:46encouraged Cassie
57:47to get away from him.
57:50Everything in life,
57:51you're going to have
57:51people that are bad
57:52and people that are good.
57:54You know?
57:54You have to choose
57:55your side.
58:00Death Wars
58:04Oh,
58:06sorry.
58:07We are just
58:10given
58:12you
58:12to
58:17and
58:18we are
58:19we are
58:19going to have
58:20you
58:20right now.
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