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Miami Heat Ready For Giannis Antetokounmpo Chase? | Do They Even Have Enough?
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Tobin throws Giannis into the trade machine... While he tries to give his 'mature' trade talk, Leroy knocks him down.
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00:00
I'm not going to beat around the bush here
00:01
because I know you're going to get mad at me.
00:03
You want a trade?
00:05
A Giannis trade?
00:06
Do it.
00:07
Go ahead.
00:08
Okay.
00:09
Here's the trade.
00:11
Hey, Tobin.
00:12
Don't beat around the bush.
00:13
I'm not going to beat around the bush.
00:14
I'm on your side today.
00:17
The Miami Heat.
00:20
Hypothetically.
00:21
Acquire.
00:22
Giannis Antetokounmpo.
00:25
Okay.
00:26
I've thrown him into the trade machine.
00:30
Going back to the Bucs.
00:31
This is one version.
00:32
I have two versions.
00:34
Andrew Wiggins.
00:36
Simone Fontecchio.
00:40
Jaime Hacquez Jr.
00:46
Nikola Jovic.
00:49
You see?
00:50
And let me tell you why you're a fraud.
00:52
Hold on.
00:52
Hold on.
00:52
Let me finish.
00:53
Let me finish.
00:54
Okay.
00:55
It's being my tour.
00:57
And Koloar.
01:00
Oh, that for Giannis?
01:02
For Gian?
01:02
No.
01:03
Like, I think your tone is wrong on that.
01:04
Fix your tone.
01:05
I think your tone is wrong on that.
01:06
No, it's not.
01:07
Fix your tone on that.
01:09
Dande.
01:09
Was his tone not wrong on that?
01:11
Leroy, do you know who Giannis Antetokounmpo is?
01:13
Are you confused?
01:13
Yes, I do.
01:14
But wait.
01:16
Wait, wait, wait.
01:16
Hold on.
01:17
I'd make some more serious.
01:18
Hold on.
01:18
Hold on.
01:18
Hold on.
01:19
Let me make this quick point.
01:22
If you trade that many players, when he gets here, he's the team that he just left.
01:29
Not really.
01:30
Because you think about the team you got.
01:31
So here's what it would be.
01:32
You would have Bam, Davion Mitchell, Tyler Hero, Norman Powell, and Giannis Antetokounmpo.
01:37
You'd have Pella Larson on the bench.
01:38
You wouldn't need to find a big man somewhere.
01:40
So that's definitely what I think.
01:41
Which is not easy to find.
01:43
He's the sexiest asset you got in the trade.
01:45
Now, you could do another version if you wanted to keep Wiggins.
01:48
And you could throw, you could take Wiggins and Simone out.
01:50
And you could put Tyler Hero and Yaka Chonis going back that way, too.
01:54
So, you're, Kolel's gone.
01:56
Well, he's the best asset they got, dude.
01:58
I don't know what to tell you.
01:59
Like, he's, and here's the thing.
02:01
Make up your mind.
02:02
What do you mean?
02:03
Do you like him or not?
02:04
I love him.
02:04
Like, how?
02:05
I'm not saying I want to, I'm telling you.
02:07
See, this is the thing that I hate doing trade talks with you.
02:09
It sucks.
02:10
And this is why I've stopped doing it.
02:11
Because you're not an adult.
02:14
And you just, I want Yannis.
02:16
I want Yannis.
02:17
I'm going to give up Casper Shaka Chonis and get Yannis.
02:19
Didn't say that.
02:19
That's you.
02:20
No, no.
02:20
That's literally you.
02:21
That's literally you.
02:22
No.
02:23
That's literally you.
02:23
I don't suggest.
02:24
That's not how trades work.
02:25
I don't suggest trades, though.
02:27
You just asked me for a trade.
02:28
No, I asked you.
02:29
You just asked me for a trade.
02:30
You're a fraud of the highest degree.
02:33
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
02:33
You're a fraud of the highest order.
02:35
I ask you.
02:36
And one of the only reasons why I ask you.
02:38
Because the trade has to work.
02:39
No, no.
02:40
You want me to know?
02:40
You want to know why?
02:42
Because from day to day, week to week, year to year, you fall in love with certain players
02:49
or certain players suck or whatever.
02:52
And I just have fun with it because last year, Jaime was in every trade.
02:58
And then this year, he's possibly six man of the year.
03:02
And but if it were up to you, he would already been gone.
03:05
Not really.
03:06
I mean, like for who?
03:07
It depends on the player.
03:08
If you were saying for Kevin Durant, yeah, I would have traded Jaime Hacquez for Kevin
03:11
Durant.
03:11
What a bastard.
03:12
I'm a true bastard.
03:13
What an insult to me, to Jaime Hacquez.
03:16
Would I have traded him for Damian Lillard?
03:18
Yes.
03:18
Twice on Sunday.
03:19
I would have traded him for Damian Lillard.
03:20
My issue with it is if you trade too many assets, then you're no better than the team he left.
03:31
I mean, you don't think pairing Giannis Antetokounmpo with two all-star guards.
03:36
But you're still going to need a big.
03:38
You don't have a big now.
03:39
Well, he has Bam Adebayo.
03:42
Okay.
03:42
And when they're not on the floor?
03:45
Look, they'll have to probably – and I was kind of looking – I was finagling this.
03:48
I was like – because he can't –
03:50
And why would you want – why would they take Kalel?
03:52
Because they already have – they already gave – what's his name?
03:56
Boatload of money.
03:57
You think Miles Turner's going to stick around with the Bucs, dude?
04:00
Huh?
04:00
You think Miles Turner's going to stick around with the Bucs?
04:02
I don't think so.
04:04
I mean, you could throw – I mean, like, if they wanted – I'm not going to do, like,
04:07
the whole Miles Turner and throw this.
04:08
Because some of these guys, they can't trade yet on these student machines because he can't
04:11
get traded until December, whatever.
04:13
I got you.
04:13
But you asked for a trade.
04:14
I gave you a trade.
04:15
I got you.
04:15
That just seems like you're –
04:18
Well, here's the thing with trading Kalel.
04:19
Okay?
04:20
And this is the thing that sucks about it.
04:21
Of course, I don't want to trade Kalel where.
04:23
But here's – and I kind of mentioned this with the rundown of the teams.
04:27
The thing the Heat are going to go up against is the bevy of picks that other organizations
04:33
have.
04:35
And the only thing that can be more attractive than a bevy of picks is having a, whoa,
04:42
player.
04:43
You know?
04:44
A la Shea Gildress Alexander going to OKC for Kawhi Leonard Paul George.
04:49
Now, it worked out terribly for that team.
04:51
But this is a case where if you're talking about adding a two-time MVP, yeah, I think
04:56
it's going to take that kind of a haul, dude.
04:57
Like, I don't – I don't think that this is going to be one of those things where I
05:01
think he probably already tried the squeeze in the market thing and get, you know, to
05:05
a team for a very little.
05:07
Like, I think this is going to be more like Anthony Davis.
05:09
Like, you're going to give up Lonzo Ball and Brandon Ingram and Kyle Kuzma and picks.
05:15
Like, I think it's going to take something like that to get a guy like this.
05:17
So, look, if you're not into it, you're not into it.
05:19
I'm not saying I hate it.
05:20
I'm not saying I'm not into it.
05:22
And I'm not saying I wouldn't want Giannis on the team.
05:25
I'm saying that at what point does having Giannis but losing all of those assets, at
05:36
what point is it where it gets to be it's not helping?
05:39
I just think let's legitimate.
05:41
Like, if Jovic was having a better season and he wasn't playing like Jaime last year
05:45
and you could have him go or maybe he sticks around because they're like, we don't want
05:51
that guy.
05:52
He's been terrible this year.
05:53
So, maybe you keep his size on there.
05:56
But, yeah, I kind of feel like and I thought this was the Kevin Durant thing.
06:00
Like, if the Heat really wanted Kevin Durant, they probably would have had to give up Kalil
06:02
Ware and they didn't.
06:04
They didn't want to do it for Kevin Durant.
06:05
I understand he's 100 years old, you know, Giannis a little bit more in his prime.
06:09
Now, will he always be this effective?
06:12
I don't know.
06:12
There's definitely those questions that have to happen.
06:14
But, I think if the Heat want to get in the game for Giannis Antetokounmpo, I don't
06:18
think there's a way to do it without giving up Kalil Ware because they don't have the
06:21
picks.
06:22
Now, I will say, Adam Silver, you hack what you should do because we know what you did
06:31
for the Mavericks, okay, giving them that number one overall pick with a .2 nothing percent
06:39
chance, what you should do is you should give me back my pick so I can trade it to the Bucs
06:47
because you know what you did with the Terry Rozier thing.
06:51
You covered it up.
06:52
It was a complete scandal.
06:54
And, you got scandals all around.
06:56
You can't keep your house in order, Adam Silver.
06:58
You got the Clippers scandal.
07:00
You got the gambling scandal.
07:01
All these scandals all over the place.
07:04
And, the Heat just beat a bunch of good boys.
07:07
Mickey Harrison, a good boy.
07:09
Pat Riley, a good boy.
07:10
Do everything right.
07:13
What you should do is give us back our pick or compensatory so we can trade.
07:18
All right?
07:18
What's fair is fair.
07:19
And, then we can let Giannis decide.
07:23
You give that war chest back to the Heat, then we can decide.
07:26
Technically, they could unprotect one of their picks.
07:29
And, I think they can get three picks.
07:30
But, that's it here nor there.
07:32
We're owed a pick.
07:33
I shouldn't have to unlock anything.
07:34
You traded somebody under investigation.
07:36
Which, by the way, wouldn't have even happened if you would have just let Damian Lillard come
07:40
to the Heat but just shamed his agent.
07:44
Oh, don't you demand trades in public.
07:46
You're making Joe Cronin look like a big meanie.
07:49
Kind of owe us one, Adam Silver.
07:52
I'm going to be honest with you, dude.
07:53
You kind of owe us one.
07:56
So, either give us back our pick or make this trade happen without giving up Kalal where I would like that, please.
08:02
He owes us.
08:03
Thank you for your attention in this matter.
08:05
Yes, thank you for your attention.
08:06
No, no, you know what?
08:07
No thank you for your attention in this matter.
08:09
Give me back my pick.
08:11
Or get me Giannis.
08:12
I want Giannis.
08:13
For Tom.
08:15
And you owe it to us.
08:16
You traded us for an, you made us trade for an investigated play.
08:21
You hit it.
08:22
You swept it under the rug.
08:25
Dozens of bets flagged by Mississippi that day.
08:29
I'm not going to tell anybody about this.
08:32
Now, should anybody ever trade a first round pick for Terry Rozier?
08:34
Yeah, not the story for another day.
08:36
You didn't make a big deal about it then.
08:38
I didn't like it back then.
08:40
I liked getting Terry Rozier, but I thought it was a lot at the beginning.
08:43
I didn't understand.
08:45
I was like, who are we betting against?
08:50
Anyway.
08:51
Give me back my pick, dude.
08:52
Or Giannis.
08:53
I'll take him.
08:54
One of the two.
08:58
I don't think that's that much to ask.
09:00
Is that not a lot to ask?
09:00
I think Dan Day agrees with you.
09:01
I don't think that's that.
09:02
Is that crazy?
09:03
He owes us, Dan Day.
09:05
It's just Giannis.
09:07
Oh, just asking for Giannis is just too demanding?
09:10
Just, then fine.
09:11
Just a pick.
09:12
Let us at least get in the derby.
09:16
With your cover-ups.
09:19
Crazy.
09:21
Imagine how many scandals this guy's just sweeping under the rug.
09:25
Oh, we cleared him.
09:27
You cleared him?
09:29
What do you mean you cleared him?
09:30
There is a gambling ring.
09:33
A ring, dude.
09:36
The Portland Trailblazers don't have their coach this year.
09:39
What do the geek get?
09:40
Nothing.
09:41
I got $26 million of dead money.
09:44
Can't trade it.
09:45
Just going into an escrow account.
09:47
Not paying him.
09:48
Can't trade him.
09:49
Can't pay him.
09:50
Can't do anything.
09:52
What is the retribution for that?
09:54
Oops, my bad.
09:55
Give the heat back their pick, you rat bastard.
09:58
Sorry.
09:58
Too strong.
09:59
Too strong.
09:59
I'm sorry.
10:01
I'm sorry.
10:02
Too strong.
10:03
I retract that, Mr. Commissioner.
10:05
I apologize.
10:06
You got too passionate.
10:06
I won't talk to a commissioner like that again.
10:08
I'm really sorry.
10:09
I apologize.
10:10
If anybody, please, I'm sorry.
10:12
I didn't mean that.
10:13
Too much.
10:14
Too much.
10:15
I should have gotten rat fink.
10:17
Oh, you know, absolutely.
10:20
I feel like that was stronger.
10:22
In about six days.
10:24
No.
10:25
Four days.
10:26
You think my credentials are going to be revoked?
10:28
No.
10:28
Four days when this college playoff comes out.
10:31
No, I don't care anymore.
10:32
I'm out.
10:33
I'm out.
10:33
You don't want me in the playoff?
10:35
I'm going to enjoy my Pop-Tart Bowl.
10:36
We're a minor league team, apparently.
10:38
We're not in the college.
10:39
You know.
10:40
Whatever.
10:43
Five championships.
10:44
Apparently, it doesn't get you into the dance with the big boys in the SEC.
10:48
Idiots.
10:49
Who gives a rat's ass about Vanderbilt?
10:51
Get these guys.
10:54
What?
10:54
Shut up, Pavia.
10:58
Expand the playoffs.
11:00
I don't know how it works.
11:02
BYU in the playoffs.
11:05
We put you so.
11:05
I hope BYU does make the playoffs.
11:11
Secret lives of Mormon wives.
11:13
Let me ask you something, dude.
11:16
Who do you want on the sidelines for national television, all right?
11:20
You want the playmaker, Michael Irvin?
11:22
Okay?
11:23
Or you want Whitney from Mormon wives?
11:26
Oh, you're going to go take it out on Whitney?
11:28
I actually, you know, I'm very torn on Whitney because she's adorable on TikTok, but I really
11:32
don't like her on the show, and especially that to me, she can kick the sharpest of rocks
11:36
for what she did to Jesse.
11:37
I prefer Whitney over to me.
11:39
Huh?
11:40
Why is it to me?
11:41
That's how she says it.
11:42
Just trying to be fancy.
11:43
That's how she says it, dude.
11:44
Anyway, I apologize.
11:46
I got to take a break.
11:47
Yeah, we can.
11:48
I apologize, Mr. Commissioner, but seriously, give me Giannis.
11:50
You started talking about Mormon wives.
11:52
Whose fault is that?
11:54
You apologize, too.
11:55
You're the one doing it.
11:56
Just, we're owed Giannis.
11:59
Ode Giannis.
11:59
We're owed Giannis.
12:00
They get Cooper flag for Trey Luka.
12:03
You know, we all know the Luka Trey was a ruse.
12:06
We all know it.
12:07
You wanted him on the Lakers.
12:09
You gave him a wink, wink, gave him Cooper flag.
12:12
Where's our mate good?
12:14
For scandal.
12:16
You sat back on your hands.
12:18
Jimmy Butler's out here tanking games.
12:21
Didn't say a peep about nuking trades then, but when it was Damian Lillard wanted to get
12:26
to the heat, oh, don't say anything, Damian Lillard.
12:29
An upstanding citizen like Damian Lillard.
12:31
Not that Jimmy Butler's not an upstanding citizen, but Damian Lillard.
12:35
I mean, has he ever angered anybody?
12:38
Oh, no, just Joe Cronin.
12:39
Oh, heavens to Betsy.
12:43
Point for Tobin!
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