00:00Cameron says, did you guys see the clip of Neon giving Giannis a heart attack
00:04telling him LeBron signed with Cleveland?
00:05I did see that.
00:08His chat was trolling Giannis saying that LeBron had signed with Cleveland
00:12and Giannis did look like he was going to throw up.
00:15I got to say, this could be something.
00:20It could be nothing.
00:22But Giannis is acting very squirrely around this LeBron thing on this stream.
00:26As if he wants him or he does.
00:29As if he wants him.
00:30Yeah, as if he wants him.
00:31Oh, no, he wants him.
00:31He wants him.
00:32As if he wants him.
00:33As if he wants him.
00:36And wants him and maybe knows something.
00:38I don't think he wants him because he understands his game more than most
00:42because it's very similar.
00:44LeBron's a better three-point shooter, but.
00:47No, their games are not that similar, guys.
00:49Why not?
00:50Because Giannis can't pass like LeBron.
00:51Well, no.
00:53So their games are not similar.
00:55And he can shoot better than them.
00:57Their games are not similar.
00:58Well, I think that.
00:59They draw the same.
00:59Maybe do they draw the same attention?
01:02Yeah.
01:02Yes.
01:03The games are not similar.
01:05I think that if you're looking.
01:07I think that if he was like, yeah.
01:08If you're going to put a guy who, you know, we can go late in the game,
01:12handle the ball.
01:14You're going to have, you know, somebody like that with me.
01:17Yeah.
01:17I think you'd be into having.
01:18I would rather LeBron than Giannis.
01:20Yeah.
01:20Oh, I think everybody's saying that.
01:21Like the heat do.
01:22You know.
01:23You rather LeBron than Giannis?
01:24In that situation.
01:25Oh, no.
01:26He has to bring the ball up the court.
01:29Yeah.
01:29But don't you want LeBron not to bring up the ball all the time?
01:33No.
01:34But we were talking about into the game situation.
01:36That's it.
01:37But he wouldn't have to bring it up all the time.
01:38Like those.
01:39Like all.
01:39See, the thing like.
01:40Yeah.
01:40Like in a game, like Giannis is going to do his transition.
01:44Bring the ball up fast.
01:45Bam can handle the ball.
01:46And Damian Mitchell can be a point guard for you in situations.
01:50Like he can handle the ball for them.
01:51I like the first two things you said.
01:53That last one.
01:54Yeah.
01:54But we're talking about over a game.
01:55Yeah.
01:56Okay.
01:56Like over, over an entire game.
01:58And if you're going to talk about.
01:59I was just talking about.
02:00A low usage.
02:01You got 15 seconds left and LeBron brings the ball up.
02:04Yeah.
02:04If you're talking about like.
02:05He can take it to the rim or he's going to make an accurate pass.
02:09You know, you can trust him with that.
02:11If you're going to talk about like the guys that you throw around.
02:13Who are going to be like low usage, like two guys, but can protect LeBron defensively.
02:17Again, like the thing that I think is beneficial is you have guys like, like Wiggins and Davion Mitchell by
02:23his side.
02:25Like, I think that's it.
02:26It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a good, it's a good solid forges around him.
02:31Do I think the heater ultimately going to get picked by LeBron?
02:32No, I don't.
02:33I think that is going to end up with Cleveland, but I definitely think Miami has arguments.
02:38Cause I think all of them have a little bit of a squirrely basketball fits because of his age.
02:42You have to have that supplement.
02:44The Philly one has been one that's popped up, but I just think that like, I don't make sense to
02:48me.
02:48I just think you hitching yourself to Joel Embiid is such a role for Tyson.
02:52Well, you're not.
02:52You're not Joel.
02:53Well, the only thing you're not hitching him is what you always are.
02:56Like, I know you say you're not, but you always are.
02:59When Joel Embiid makes that much money for your team, you always are.
03:02Because you want to know something?
03:03He's an eye poke away from you playing with whoever, whoever they have in the G League right under him.
03:08You know, I, I, I just, I mean, look, it, I just think it could, it could work.
03:22Um, I think something about stars, certain stars can get together and make it work and feed off of each
03:31other and realize where they have to be better at.
03:35And I think sometimes that's what they, that's why they want to play with each other.
03:41They ain't got to worry about whether this guy's dependable or is going to do what he needs to do.
03:47And from that standpoint, I can see it.
03:50Um, I, I don't, I just know that, you know, are we, we looking at nineties basketball and it's going
03:59to be the opposite of what last season started as.
04:02Yeah.
04:03But last year didn't work though.
04:04No, I'm not saying it worked.
04:06I'm just saying it wasn't like it was working.
04:07Yeah.
04:08But it really, it really, like all those guys got burned out by the time we got to like, by
04:12the time we got to December, they were cooked.
04:14Every one of them.
04:15Yep.
04:16Everybody had lower body injuries.
04:17Everybody was done.
04:18Like they're not, they're not going back to that.
04:21It's it, they, that, that whole thing was Eric's bolster.
04:25Hey, look, I credit Spoh because he needed to do something.
04:28His offense was in the muck the last couple of years for sure, but you know, it's just, it's, it
04:34wasn't, it wasn't suitable to keep going.
04:38And I do think that like, you know, from the shooting perspective, like Wiggins did have his best shooting season
04:44last year, you know, capable ban has shown an ability to, to, to have the three point shot.
04:49He's not, I would say like a threat yet, but it is part of his game.
04:53Like you go and look at the totals and where they've been the last two years, it's not like it's,
04:57it's completely erased from his, from his, uh, from his game.
05:02And now you have all the gravity going towards Giannis.
05:04Like those looks are, are going to be, I would imagine in a good place.
05:08Davey, like to me, the X factor is going to be Pella.
05:11Like, forget about the LeBron thing, because like, let's it's right now it's fantasy, but like for the team, for
05:18the, for this team, the guy who's going to be the X factor is Pella.
05:21He's the guy that kept, he's the young guy who's going to kind of fill in everywhere.
05:25He can obviously bring a lot of rim pressure, but if he can be any kind of respectable shooter, then
05:30I think Miami is going to be an okay spot.
05:32If he stinks, then I don't know.
05:34Like, then you're going to have to do a game between him and Tim Hardaway of like who you're going
05:37to play.
05:39I got a guy for you.
05:40Hmm.
05:42I think you need to bring him back.
05:44Cool.
05:46And he works well with both Giannis and LeBron since he played with LeBron.
05:52You should bring Kevin Love back.
05:54Good.
05:55So old.
05:56Did he retire?
05:57Your whole team's going to be old, bro.
05:59What are you talking about?
06:01He's not that old.
06:02This year, they're going to be old.
06:03They're not that old.
06:04They're going to be.
06:04If they have LeBron, they'll be old.
06:05But who's that old on this team?
06:08Giannis is in his 30s.
06:09Giannis is 31.
06:11Bam is 29.
06:12Bam is going to turn 30.
06:13Bobby Portis is 31.
06:16That's old.
06:17That's not that old.
06:18Listen, Tobin.
06:19Is it Taylor Brunson 29?
06:20Tobin, you and I, we don't look at it like that.
06:24We think they're in their primes.
06:25But the execs and everybody else, that's old.
06:28They're going to be one of the older teams in the NBA.
06:30It's a year older than Jimmy Butler was when he got here.
06:33Bam, things change instantly.
06:36Instantly.
06:37I would think 31, 32.
06:39I'm like, oh, they're in their primes.
06:40Like, this is a good roster to have.
06:42But in this current NBA, no.
06:44You saw the Spurs.
06:45The Spurs had the second youngest team to ever be in the NBA final.
06:48They were 25 years old.
06:50But then they crapped their shorts.
06:51I mean, yes.
06:53You will have that.
06:54But you're going to be one of the older teams in the league starting next season.
06:59I think that in a couple years, that's a thing that I would be worried about.
07:01But I do think there are still some youth on the team with Pella.
07:06I mean, we'll see what Nico brings.
07:08You should have seen him in the last game against Hungary.
07:10He looked really good.
07:10Did he hit any outside shots?
07:12No, he was one for four.
07:15But I was proud of him.
07:16Jesse, you know what?
07:17If you like somebody and want somebody to do well, we can't take your game.
07:22He played well.
07:23We can't take your game recap.
07:26He played well.
07:28He was one for four.
07:30It's not like he was one for eight.
07:31Pella was one for nine.
07:32Oh, my God.
07:33He also had the ball more.
07:35Time out.
07:35I love how you said.
07:36He's basically Swedish, Michael Jordan.
07:39Toby, can you explain to your listeners over here?
07:42Yeah.
07:43The Miami Heat went from one of the youngest teams last season to what now?
07:48They're one of the older teams.
07:50And right now, they're one of the older teams.
07:53Tim Hardaway should be in his 30s as well.
07:55Oldest to me.
07:5731?
07:58I wouldn't be shocked if he's 31.
08:01He's been in the league at least 10 years.
08:03He did two stints with the Knicks.
08:04I would know.
08:08So, yeah.
08:09I'm trying to make you guys older.
08:12You guys are already old as is.
08:13He is sneaky old.
08:14He's 34.
08:15Oh.
08:15Whoa.
08:16Oh.
08:17I didn't know he was that old.
08:18Oh.
08:18Juniors always make you feel like they're younger.
08:22Oh.
08:22So, you got a 34-year-old, 31, and Giannis.
08:26Mm-hmm.
08:27Turning 32.
08:28Mm-hmm.
08:29Babb's going to turn 30.
08:30He's not.
08:31Turning 29.
08:3129.
08:32Okay, cool.
08:32Babb's turning 29.
08:34Bobby Portis is what?
08:3631.
08:37Wiggins, I think, is 32.
08:38Wow.
08:39Wiggins is 32.
08:40Hey, if I had to guess who you thought was older, Bobby Portis or Hardaway?
08:45I would have thought it would have been Bobby Portis.
08:46Oh, I thought Bobby Portis was 35, too.
08:48Don't trust me.
08:49I thought I was surprised.
08:49Right, but that's what I'm saying.
08:51So, a lot of you guys are in their 30s that's played 10 to 11 years in the league.
08:56That's okay.
08:57Okay.
08:5831's not old in professional sports nowadays because you wanted to pay a 40-year-old, so
09:06you can't say that's old.
09:07I'm talking to Toby.
09:09Mm-hmm.
09:10I'm not saying anybody's old.
09:11I'm not worried about it.
09:12I would say between 30 and 35, you're still getting some peak years out of certain people.
09:20Depending on how well they take care of their body.
09:23I know, but people are making it sound like Giannis is 34, dude, and he's not.
09:27They're just trying to make it sound like he's old.
09:28He played 34 years old with basketball.
09:32Right, because of the past couple of years he hasn't.
09:35Well, I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
09:36Do we really know if he was hurt or was he just doing that thing?
09:39I have no idea.
09:40That's what we're trying to say.
09:41I don't know.
09:41That's what happens in basketball, right?
09:44Simone Fontecchio is a young 30.
09:45I'm not trying to be difficult or anything, but it always seems like right before a guy
09:50gets traded, he'd have one of them years where he played 30 games.
09:54Because he thought he was going to get traded at Christmas.
09:5730 in Italian is like, that's like 22, dude.
10:00I mean, they're young at heart.
10:02Yeah.
10:02What?
10:03I don't know what I'm saying.
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