00:00Doc Rivers yesterday coming out and denying Giannis Antetokounmpo ever asked for a trade.
00:05This is what Doc Rivers had to say yesterday.
00:07Here we go again.
00:11Here we go again.
00:12There's been no conversations.
00:14I want to make it clear just for the, I would say one more time, but for the 50th time,
00:20it clearly is not getting the one that worked for sure.
00:23Giannis has never asked to be traded.
00:27Ever.
00:28I can't make that more clear.
00:32Which usually means in a week you'll be traded.
00:34I'm just going to say it.
00:36I was a wait.
00:37And, and you can't say that right after a player mysteriously pulls up lame.
00:47Well, that was a crazy thing, right?
00:49Because everybody saw yesterday at a non-contact injury.
00:52And even Doc Rivers yesterday was like, oh, no, no, no.
00:55There was contact.
00:56There was contact.
00:57I was like, wait, what?
00:58So now you're trying to make up injuries for your guy?
01:00So he's like, we can rule out Achilles.
01:02I was like, okay.
01:03And then everybody was like, it was, you ever see like those doctors that, I mean, I don't,
01:07I have you usually.
01:08I could just say, hey, what happened here?
01:09You're like, oh, that's a great two.
01:11That's usually what I do.
01:12Right.
01:13But yesterday I see the injury and this doctor's like, I don't really see what happened here.
01:16And everybody was kind of like, no, Giannis can't be, he can't be, he can't be.
01:23That's what we said about Kawhi.
01:25He would never leave pop.
01:26That's what we said about who Paul George.
01:31I mean, we said that about Jimmy.
01:32So when everybody was saying this about Giannis, I'm like, I went immediately to Bubblegate's
01:39ankle, Bubblegut's ankle.
01:40And I was like, Giannis wouldn't do a Jimmy Butler, would he?
01:47That's Jimmy's move.
01:48That's Jimmy's move.
01:50But, or Kawhi's move.
01:52Kawhi did it too.
01:54Kawhi did do it too.
01:55He had the, what did he do?
01:56He did back.
01:56He did knee.
01:57No, he said his knee, they weren't doing, he was getting treatment elsewhere.
02:01Right, right, right, right, right.
02:01He wasn't getting the treatment at their facility.
02:04Well, I don't know.
02:06I don't know what to make of it.
02:07I don't know if, I don't think Giannis would fake an injury because it doesn't seem like
02:12his style, but I don't know.
02:14I mean, look, they did just lose to the Wizards.
02:19So.
02:21They just beat the Pistons.
02:22They did just beat the Pistons.
02:24Go figure.
02:24That's another one that's crazy.
02:26They lose to the Wizards, but they beat the Pistons yesterday with Giannis out.
02:29They trailed by 18, come back to win, but I don't know, dude.
02:36I don't know what to make of it because shot.
02:39So can be, there can be some questions when a non-contact injury where you don't see no
02:47limping.
02:47Right.
02:47Or no medical assistance, you pull up lane.
02:56That guy says, man, come on.
02:57Even that walk to the locker room looked fake.
03:01I don't know, man.
03:02So, but here's the problem.
03:06Every time in sports, tell me if this is not accurate.
03:10When a coach or organization or player comes out as defiant as Doc did, he's going to be
03:19traded next week.
03:21So here we go again.
03:24There's been no conversations.
03:26I want to make it clear just for the, I would say one more time, but for the 50th time, he
03:32clearly is not getting the one network for sure.
03:36Giannis has never asked to be traded.
03:40Ever.
03:42I can't make that more clear.
03:44Neither did Jimmy.
03:46Jimmy never officially never asked to be traded technically.
03:51And then it was like, Oh, we can, you know, you could do, you can go out there and you
03:55can play this game all you want.
03:58Semantic samurai.
04:00Yep.
04:00But Jimmy never asked to be traded.
04:03Keep in mind.
04:04I do remember that night.
04:05Like it was yesterday when Jimmy Butler turned his ankle and then we all saw it.
04:10You remember it happened after they lost to the Pistons and Jimmy had his best game of
04:13the season and he was really frustrated in the locker room afterwards.
04:17And then there was like three days off before their next game comes out, twist his ankle
04:22very clearly.
04:22And you know, Jimmy Butler, when he twists his ankle, like he's good for two weeks, but
04:25didn't even say ankle.
04:26He was just like bubble guts.
04:28Well, he didn't say bubble guts.
04:29He said he was sick.
04:30And then, uh, and then he was just, he was just out for a while with this whole thing.
04:35And then he was like, Oh, I was, I was so sick.
04:37I was really sick.
04:39I'm like, really?
04:40You were really that you were that sick.
04:41It wasn't an ankle injury.
04:42And it's like, you didn't want to just protect your ankle because you always get hurt in
04:46the start of the season.
04:46And you want to get this extra 60 mil guaranteed.
04:50It's like, nah, I was sick, dude.
04:51I'm like, Oh, okay.
04:52Well, I can't prove that you weren't sick.
04:56Stomach ailment.
04:57Yeah.
04:57Can't prove that he wasn't, you know, I mean, it's, it's just, he had such a, that
05:02was, then he came back and hit shot a one-legged three and Spoh just went, no, no, they won
05:10the game where he hit the one-legged three.
05:11They won against the Pelicans.
05:13It was the next game where you could, he does it even more.
05:15And it was the Pacers.
05:16The Pacers are good.
05:17You can dog it against the Pels and still win.
05:19That was the problem.
05:20He kept trying to do things to antagonize the heat.
05:22Like, remember he was playing dominoes in the locker room when they were playing the,
05:25when they were playing the Rockets and they won and they won.
05:29Like, he's like, Oh, they're going to lose to the Rockets and Tyler hero balled out.
05:31He did get thrown up his head by Amon Thompson, but they ended up winning that game.
05:36Then we had the infamous stare down.
05:41You, that was just when you, no, well, yes, but then we had the Pels game where they still
05:47won, even though he was one-legged three in it.
05:50And then finally we had losing my joy night.
05:54Wait, wait, what's there?
05:55Are we talking about this one?
05:57That's the one.
05:59That's the one.
06:01Some kind of way.
06:02You are always in the middle of this.
06:04I don't think that's fair.
06:07People always be giving this, giving the side eye to you.
06:10That's not even the same look.
06:12Same thing.
06:12It's not the same thing.
06:14You're going to tell me that's not the same thing.
06:15That was even looking at me.
06:18He's looking in your direction.
06:22They all know that voice.
06:24Who that is, Billy Alish?
06:30You're trying your damnedest to be professional, but we always get meathead Tobin.
06:35So how are we going to take you serious?
06:36So, Giannis, according to Sham Sharania, this is what he had to say on where things stand.
06:44Wait.
06:45Sources tell me that Giannis Antetokounmpo and his agent, Alex Saratis, have started open
06:50conversations that are active right now with the Milwaukee Bucks about the realities of
06:56whether his future is best staying in Milwaukee or the realities of moving on elsewhere.
07:02And my understanding is a resolution to this and whether this could lead to a trade request
07:06is expected in the coming weeks.
07:08So there's a timeline there.
07:10All right.
07:11And then Wendy was on ESPN Cleveland yesterday.
07:14It's kind of started the storm of yesterday.
07:16And he had basically revealed that Giannis basically has to be traded to the Knicks over the summer.
07:21Like he's like, he's already, he did ask for a trade this summer.
07:25Wendy's saying flat out he asked for a trade to the Knicks this summer.
07:28Now, Shams has gone out and said, well, if this happens, because the Knicks and the Bucks
07:32had like this whole exclusive negotiating period, couldn't come to a deal.
07:35The Knicks don't have a lot of assets.
07:36They don't, they don't have any picks.
07:39So Shams has said, hey, when this derby opens up for Giannis, more teams are going to be,
07:45you know, I guess, open to it, which is interesting, dude.
07:51It is interesting.
07:52You can't, you, you are not going to want to give up what they want.
07:55I don't know.
07:56You do know.
07:57Hard to say.
07:57You do know.
07:58Hard to say.
07:59Stop.
07:59You do know.
08:00I don't know.
08:00Listen, I don't even know if I want Giannis.
08:02You know, we got to see.
08:03I mean, but you know, it would be interesting.
08:04Oh my goodness.
08:05It would be interesting.
08:06Here we go again.
08:07It is.
08:08It's the same time.
08:09Listen, mark your calendar.
08:11What?
08:12After Thanksgiving, before Christmas, Tobin's going to have a conversation about somebody.
08:18And depending on how the guys are playing on the team will determine whether he feels he
08:27could do without you.
08:28Untrue.
08:28Untrue.
08:29Untrue.
08:29Untrue.
08:31Fallacies.
08:31I know what it's going to take.
08:32A year ago.
08:34Wait.
08:34A year ago, Jaime would have been a throw-in to any deal.
08:38Yeah.
08:39Okay.
08:39So, when I say every year, it changes.
08:45It does.
08:46Because guess what?
08:47Right now, would you throw Jaime into a deal?
08:50For a Giannis deal?
08:53Yes, he will be in the deal.
08:54Okay.
08:56Who else?
08:56Jaime Buckeyes Jr.
08:59Tyler?
09:02I don't know if it's going to be either Tyler or Wiggins, or I don't know who the fat salary
09:06is going to be that you're going to have to deal with.
09:08Wiggins!
09:09But you're going to have to-
09:10Wiggins!
09:11You can't get rid of Wiggins!
09:12Are you kidding me?
09:13If you have Giannis?
09:14No!
09:15Okay.
09:16But that's a guy.
09:18That is my guy.
09:20We're talking about Giannis Antetokounmpo.
09:21Do you realize how important Wiggins is on this team, as far as his defense and his
09:25ability to score?
09:26You don't think the Heat are going to have a good defensive presence with Giannis and
09:29Bam on the team together?
09:30Yeah, but you're losing outside shooting.
09:32So, you don't want an MVP, a two-time MVP on your team.
09:35You can't lose Wiggins!
09:36You can't lose Wiggins!
09:37Dan Day thinks you're a crazy person.
09:38Come on now.
09:39Dan Day thinks you're a crazy person.
09:40Okay.
09:41Okay.
09:41Look, did I trade machine last night?
09:45Maybe.
09:47Maybe.
09:48And look, I need to switch at my house.
09:52And when I see news, I need to turn off all of your-
09:57Notification?
09:59Yeah.
09:59What do you mean?
09:59Just turn off everything.
10:00Why?
10:01I don't have it.
10:01Turn off the trade machine.
10:02Turn off it.
10:03Because you know, anytime you hear something along these lines, you think you're Andy
10:09Ellisberg.
10:10That's not fair.
10:11No, really?
10:11I would never compare myself to the great Andy Ellisberg.
10:13Okay.
10:14How many?
10:14Tell us about your trade, Andy.
10:17Well, I think it's going to take a lot to get him on the-
10:20Tell us about the damn trade!
10:21Because, here's the reason why.
10:23Here's the reason why.
10:24You're yelling at me.
10:24Because you beat around the bush.
10:26I'm not beating around the bush.
10:27Oh, really?
10:28But he's trying to talk.
10:29Okay, so-
10:30Go.
10:31Thank you, Jennifer.
10:32You're welcome.
10:32That donut is not too sweet.
10:34You're not familiar with his work.
10:37Really?
10:37Yeah.
10:38Okay.
10:38Well, here's the thing.
10:42If you're going to trade for Giannis, you've got to think about who you're going up against.
10:46Because here's the problem.
10:48The Heat, they only have two tradable first-round picks right now because of the Terry Rozier trade,
10:52which the NBA nefariously covered up and took away one of our assets because they didn't tell us that this person we were training for was under investigation for scandalous gambling.
11:04So, I want to get to this Adam Silver here in a second.
11:09So, you look at teams like Atlanta.
11:12Atlanta is a very big competition because they have the Pelicans pick this year.
11:16That could end up being the number one pick.
11:18I mean, the Pelicans stink.
11:19They have that pick for the Derrick Queen trade.
11:22Then they could trade some more picks.
11:25You've got a team like San Antonio.
11:27You could trade a Dylan Harper that they just drafted.
11:29A Stefan Casso is rookie of the year.
11:31You know, you're going to get asked.
11:32It's crazy if OKC won them.
11:33They got a boat.
11:34If OKC wanted to get in the game.
11:36But here's the thing.
11:37I find the Knicks element of this interesting because Giannis getting traded.
11:42He's already said, I got to win another ring, right?
11:46When he said this summer, I only want to go to the Knicks.
11:49Maybe he wants to just live in New York.
11:51But the way I looked at it, OK, through my heat colored glasses, is that if you looked
11:57at the East this year, Jennifer, really, how many teams do people think could come out
12:03of the East and win the title?
12:05Probably two.
12:06Yeah.
12:07Cavaliers and Knicks.
12:08That was pretty much the list.
12:10Correct.
12:10You look at the East now.
12:13A lot of teams.
12:13If I was Giannis.
12:14Detroit.
12:14Detroit, Atlanta, Toronto, Miami.
12:18I'd look at all those teams.
12:19I'd be like, if I was Giannis.
12:23I'd say you want to go to a team that has younger talent.
12:30Right?
12:31So you're looking at Detroit.
12:32Hell, Houston.
12:37But they ain't got no assets.
12:38OKC's got a boatload of assets.
12:40I don't know about New York.
12:42I know Miami doesn't really.
12:44OKC, New York doesn't have anything.
12:46You know, New York just has players and they're taxed over the limit.
12:48That's why the New York deal probably didn't happen in the first place.
12:51Now, he may just be like, oh, I want to go to New York.
12:53And they're going to be like, cool, dude.
12:55What do you want us to do?
12:56So I don't know.
12:57That could just be the case.
12:58He could just want to go to New York.
12:59Or, yeah, I said Florida City is making him happy.
13:04So, now the Heat are going to know.
13:06Like, listen, the Heat will know if he wants to be here.
13:08Because him and Bam share an agent.
13:10They'll know.
13:11Hey, call that dude Saracis.
13:13Be like, what's the deal?
13:14Do we got a shot?
13:15They'll know.
13:16They'll know if he wants to be here or not.
13:21Very interesting.
13:22Now, here's the...
13:23What did you...
13:24So, Jennifer, and let me warn you.
13:28You act like I've been in the show for two days.
13:31No, but, again, he still hasn't gotten to the question I asked.
13:36A lot of things I've got to lay out.
13:38I have things I have to lay out.
13:39I'll get to it.
13:40He was starting the story.
13:42Yeah.
13:42It was a journey.
13:44Let him get there.
13:44I don't know if you know, but she's...
13:45Okay, Mike McDade.
13:46I don't know if you know, but she's rats off your ship today.
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