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Ariana Grande sat down with The Hollywood Reporter to reflect on her "Hollywood Firsts," from the first time she felt starstruck to the first time she heard her song on the radio. Plus, she dishes on her 'Wicked' audition and how she "sobbed" after finding out she was nominated for an Oscar.
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00:00I didn't ever think that I would be seen as a singer.
00:05I didn't, I hoped, you know, I hoped that people would let me do both
00:08or that I would be able to do both with my life.
00:11And at that time, it was just such an unfathomable thought.
00:15So it was really cool to hear like,
00:18oh my God, you're playing my song on the radio.
00:21Maybe I'll get to do both.
00:22Hi, I'm Ariana Grande, and we are here at my Hollywood Reporter cover shoot.
00:26And here are some of my Hollywood firsts.
00:31The first movie that made me want to make movies,
00:37I would say The Wizard of Oz is one of them
00:40because I just remember studying Judy Garland
00:43and being so in love with her performance.
00:46And then I fell totally in love with Jim Carrey.
00:50So I think about like The Truman Show and The Mask.
00:54He's just like this masterful comedian.
00:59He's one of one, but everything has so much depth
01:02and humanness beneath the surface.
01:04It's like hilarious, but also heartbreaking at the same time.
01:07And then I think about Best in Show.
01:09Those are my three.
01:11I think might have been for Annie at the Little Palm Family Theater.
01:15I was eight years old and I was very sick.
01:19I had bronchitis, but I really wanted to go.
01:22And I booked the role of Annie.
01:25And I remember I was so young.
01:27They had like a rule at the family theater
01:30that like parents had to drop everyone off
01:32and then pick them up after rehearsals.
01:33But my mom did not want to leave me at rehearsals.
01:35And so she actually auditioned as well
01:38and got a role in Annie.
01:40And she played the guy who sells the apples
01:42and one of Daddy Warbucks's housekeepers.
01:45And so she was able to stay at rehearsals with me
01:47because she auditioned to be in the show.
01:51My first red carpet was for Fantastic Mr. Fox,
01:54which I was not in at all.
01:56I had nothing to do with it, but they invited me
01:58and I was on Nickelodeon at the time.
01:59And I had my red hair and I had my little green mini dress.
02:02And I remember I felt really cute.
02:04I associate that specific shade of red
02:06with that character so much.
02:08So I love it.
02:10I love it for that.
02:12I started writing songs when I was really young,
02:14but the first one I wrote and recorded
02:16and was able to like actually have a copy of
02:19was called Let It Rain.
02:20And I was really young when I wrote it.
02:23I think it was 11 or 12 when I wrote it
02:25and then I recorded it the next year.
02:27I don't know, man.
02:28Let It Rain.
02:29Just what it will be, it will be.
02:31Those were the lyrics of what am I thinking?
02:33I was so young and so wise.
02:36I thought I was like Natasha Bedingfield
02:38slash Mary J. Blige.
02:39And I was 12.
02:42The first person that truly left me starstruck
02:45was Imogen Heap.
02:46I grew up worshiping her.
02:48She's the reason why I produce.
02:50She's the reason why I literally downloaded
02:52all the music softwares on my computer
02:53when I was 12 to start learning
02:56how to do things myself,
02:57how to comp vocals,
02:58my looping machine.
02:59Like everything I know about music production
03:01was because I idolized her.
03:03I thought I was being catfished
03:04the first time that I went to go meet her.
03:07And at some point I was like,
03:08hey mom, I think,
03:09I think it's a prank.
03:11And I think it's, you know,
03:13we watch a lot of true crime.
03:14I think we know what's coming.
03:16And this is the end.
03:17And then it wasn't.
03:18And she ends in and she's like,
03:19hello.
03:19And she answers at the door.
03:20And she's like, hello, come on in.
03:21These are the Nemo gloves.
03:22And it was perfectly wonderful.
03:25My first time hearing myself on the radio,
03:27I was actually driving to Nick on Sunset
03:30to film Sam and Cat.
03:31And I heard The Way.
03:33And I almost crashed my car.
03:36It was really exciting.
03:38And totally terrifying
03:41because I almost drove off the road.
03:42It was really an insane moment for me
03:46because A, I was getting ready to go to set
03:47for my real job at the time.
03:50And, you know,
03:51I didn't ever think that
03:53I would be seen as a singer.
03:56I didn't, I hoped, you know,
03:58I hoped that people would let me do both
04:00or that I would be able to do both
04:01with my life.
04:02And at that time,
04:05it was just such an unfathomable thought.
04:08So it was really cool to hear like,
04:10oh my God,
04:11they're playing my song on the radio.
04:12Maybe I'll get to do both.
04:15My first Wicked audition
04:16was August 13th, 2021.
04:19I like remember I had my little pink thermos.
04:23Just remember
04:23leaving it all in the room.
04:26I sang No One Warns the Wicked
04:27and I sang Popular.
04:29I sang both of them twice.
04:30And then I strangely sang,
04:33even though it was very clear
04:34that I was going in for Linda,
04:36I also sang The Wizard of Nine,
04:37Defying Gravity twice.
04:38So I was there for quite a while
04:40and I did a lot of singing.
04:41And even though I wasn't all pink,
04:43they had me sing both vocal tracks,
04:44which was really fun.
04:46And yeah,
04:48I just remember leaving buzzing.
04:53I sobbed.
04:55I absolutely sobbed.
04:58I had my face in my hands.
05:01I was just absolutely sobbing.
05:04It was really emotional.
05:06It's emotional to even talk about.
05:08It's very unfathomable
05:10because the greatest gift of my life
05:13was being able to do this work.
05:15Every single day,
05:16playing Galinda was more than a dream
05:21and more than enough.
05:22It's just the thing
05:24that I'm most grateful for
05:26in my life so far.
05:27So to have the work be celebrated
05:29and acknowledged in this way
05:30is not something you even think about
05:31when you're making it.
05:32You know,
05:32you don't even think about it at all.
05:34And then afterwards,
05:35you don't think about it either.
05:36I didn't know where I'd be right now.
05:37I thought I would be...
05:38I don't know.
05:39It's just...
05:40It's a once-in-a-lifetime thing
05:45and I don't think if I ever...
05:47I don't think I even let myself dream that far,
05:50to be honest.
05:51So, yeah,
05:53it's incredibly moving
05:54and extraordinary and insane.
05:56Oh, and then my therapist called
05:58and then my gynecologist called
06:00and I was like,
06:01oh my God, thank you.
06:03Can we celebrate over my next breast exam?
06:06Like, is everything okay?
06:07First of all, is everything good?
06:08And she was like,
06:09congratulations!
06:10And I was like, wow!
06:12That's it, right?
06:14There's a tonal shift
06:15when you go from being like
06:17on a kid's show
06:19as a character
06:20that people love
06:21and find approachable
06:22and silly
06:23and whatever
06:24to pop stardom.
06:26There's a very different thing
06:27that happens
06:28and I can't explain
06:30what's behind it
06:32or why, whatever.
06:33People sort of...
06:35It just becomes
06:36a little bit different.
06:37But I just remember feeling
06:38all of a sudden
06:40like, oh my goodness.
06:42Artists maybe are not
06:44like meant to deal...
06:46Like the same people
06:47who are destined to make art
06:49are the opposite kind of people
06:51who are meant to deal
06:53with what comes with it sometimes.
06:55Sometimes it can just be really
06:56a bit of a whirlwind
06:58and the music you're making
07:02whatever you're doing
07:03can come secondary
07:03to what they try
07:04to turn you into.
07:06So I think probably
07:06when I was 19 or something
07:08or 20
07:08I remember
07:10kind of having to stand up
07:13for myself quite often
07:14back then
07:14or at least stand up
07:16for my art too
07:16to just be like,
07:17hey, I'm here to sing.
07:18Like,
07:19what are these rumors about?
07:21Why is this happening?
07:22I'm just here to sing.
07:23And that was something
07:24I was experiencing
07:25at such a young age
07:27that it was so weird
07:28for me to adjust to.
07:30And I'm 31
07:30and I'm still
07:31it's still really hard
07:33when that feeling arises.
07:35I'm still learning
07:36and I'm still growing
07:36but I feel like
07:37I'm really proud
07:39of kind of how
07:39I've been able
07:40to navigate it
07:42and heal through it.
07:44I've been holding space
07:45since I was born
07:47I would say.
07:48I think I've
07:49I've always been
07:50an empath
07:50and a cancer
07:51and I've been
07:52I have been consistently
07:54holding space
07:55since my first breath.
07:57I want to take this moment
07:58to clarify something.
08:00There were many articles
08:01written about
08:01like what it means
08:02to hold space
08:03but it wasn't
08:04the holding space
08:05that was perplexing
08:07because I think
08:08I think holding space
08:10is something that
08:10you know
08:11I've actually been
08:12saying that phrase
08:12for quite a long time.
08:14It was the whiff.
08:15Thank you for letting me
08:16clear that up.
08:18Probably the same thing
08:19that my mom said to me
08:20which was just like
08:21you've got this.
08:24You know
08:24you can do
08:25absolutely anything.
08:26Be kind,
08:26work hard
08:27and
08:28tune out
08:31the noise.
08:38What was the way
08:40to stay
08:48taking care of
08:49how to do it?
08:50I think it was
08:51the opposite.
08:52I think it was
08:52the most disturbing
08:53all the time
08:53to catch up.
08:54What is it?
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