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"We Need to Know What's Going On" in Trump White House Says Bob Woodward | THR News
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The veteran journalist discussed his new book, 'Fear: Trump in the White House,' with Stephen Colbert on Monday's 'Late Show.'
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And Trump goes ballistic, makes things up, starts screaming.
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On Monday, journalist Bob Woodward made an appearance on CBS's Late Show to chat to
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host Stephen Colbert about his latest book, a dystopian work of fiction called
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Fear, Trump in the White House.
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It's not fiction.
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Wait, it's not fiction?
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Oh, that's right. It's real life. And Woodward's latest book is actually about
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President Donald Trump's administration because it turns out you can't make this stuff up.
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Referring to the book's title, Colbert asked Woodward what fills him with fear.
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Not knowing, the veteran journalist responded.
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The first is not knowing. And that's what we've got to do. We need to know what's going
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on.
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No one works in the White House who doesn't bring things home, Woodward told Colbert.
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On the third visit, they say, maybe I've got something upstairs. Then they come down with
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three boxes.
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Citing a section from the end of the book, in which Trump's attorney John Dowd is performing
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a mock trial with the president about the Mueller investigation, Woodward explained
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what the lawyer allegedly said in the situation.
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You can't testify. You are disabled. Imagine your lawyer telling you you are disabled, said
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Woodward.
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You can't testify because you can't tell the truth. You just make things up.
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When asked about whether Woodward's sources might only open up to him in order to be portrayed
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well in history, the legendary reporter replied,
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What you do is you take information and you check with other people. This is a little beehive,
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the White House. Someone will say something and someone else will have a document.
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And you can put it together often with microscopic detail.
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And when asked if he would lie to protect the identity of a source, Woodward stated simply,
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no.
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Speaking on Trump specifically, Woodward said,
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In many of these cases, he's just wrong. He'll find a few people who will agree,
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but we'd better wake up to what's really going on and people need to examine it. This is not partisan.
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The conversation then moved on to the president's favorite form of communication,
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with Colbert asking Woodward how he feels when Trump tweets about him.
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What is the contest in America other than the political contest?
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It's a contest for the truth, Woodward said.
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I'm willing to put myself out here. I've done the work.
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This is the best reporting you can do, or that I can do.
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Earlier on Monday, Woodward appeared on NBC's Today where he said Defense Secretary Jim Mattis
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and White House Chief of Staff John Kelly are not telling the truth when they deny making
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disparaging statements about Trump attributed to them in his book.
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Both Kelly and Mattis are quoted in the book as calling the president an idiot
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and has the understanding of a fifth or sixth grader.
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And that's how you end the book. I think you buried the lead.
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To read more on this story and to watch full clips of Stephen Colbert's interview with Bob Woodward,
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head to THR.com. For The Hollywood Reporter News, I'm Lyndsey Rodrigues.
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