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Patrick Stewart On His Favorite 'Star Trek' Film, Close Friendship with Sir Ian McKellen and More | In Studio
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3 weeks ago
"I love him deeply," Stewart said of his friendship with fellow actor Sir Ian McKellen.
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Hello, I'm Patrick Stewart, and you're in the studio with The Hollywood Reporter.
00:10
Let's start at the very beginning.
00:12
Could you tell me a memory that sticks out to you of the late, great Gene Roddenberry?
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Gene had been very reluctant to cast me from the beginning,
00:22
from the first day that I was rushed over to his house to meet with him.
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The meeting lasted about seven minutes, and all I can remember is that
00:30
there was a lot of orange shagpile carpet in the bungalow he was living in.
00:36
But he made it clear that I was not what he was looking for.
00:42
And months and months went by, and I was called back for more meetings and an audition,
00:48
and I became aware that there were people who were campaigning for me as part of the production.
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And at last the moment came when I auditioned for the studio, and they made me an offer.
01:04
Gene would come down to the set two or three times during the week,
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and he would sit in a director's chair and watch what we were doing.
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And occasionally I would catch him looking at me, and I know, I know that he was thinking,
01:20
what the hell is this guy doing in my show?
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Because I don't think he'd ever got a...
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I am told that somewhere in the archives, in the cellars of Paramount,
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there is a memo which came from Gene to everybody on the production,
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saying that he did not want to hear my name mentioned again.
01:43
Amazing.
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But...
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What was it?
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What was he looking for?
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What to...
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Well, you know, when this new series was announced, and the casting,
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the Los Angeles Times described me as unknown British Shakespearean actor Patrick Stewart.
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Well, as a foretaste of the kind of company I was going to be keeping in this new series,
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Brent Spineau, who played Data the Android, he had a sign made, and it was...
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I came back to my trailer one day, and it was stuck on my trailer door,
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and it said in big red letters,
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BEWARE UNKNOWN British Shakespearean actor.
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So, you know, if you didn't go to the Royal Shakespeare Company or watch BBC Two,
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you really had no idea who this person was.
02:36
There is a line that is very important in the Star Trek universe, which is,
02:40
the line must be drawn here.
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Oh, yes, you're right.
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Right, from first contact.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Did you know that that line was going to end up being such...
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I mean, it's a meme, it's an internet sensation.
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Yeah, no, I didn't.
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All I knew was that it was an opportunity for me to illustrate what we rarely saw of Jean-Luc Picard,
03:03
but him in a rage, in a fury, not able to contain his feelings.
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But I was also teased about that because I added a vowel sound that wasn't there.
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I actually do say, and I heard this the other day, the recording of it,
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the line must be drawn here.
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And it's not, it's here.
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Here is what we say, not here.
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And so I was teased a lot about that.
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But, yeah, well.
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Well, let's pivot.
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There are so many directions I would love to go.
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One of the things is your love of American cinema.
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You directed A Fistful of Datas, which is a spaghetti western.
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Yeah, yeah.
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There was a lot of profound irritation about that.
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Because we had a number of directors who were, we were, you know, cycling through.
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They were doing, you know, every fifth or sixth episode.
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And very, very good directors.
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And I had followed in Jonathan Frake's footsteps.
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Who had, he called it, he went to Paramount University to learn to be a director.
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And he was so serious about this that Rick Berman finally gave him a show to direct.
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And it was one of the best episodes we ever did.
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And so I felt I would like to follow in his footsteps at some point.
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So I got to do six shows.
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But you never quite knew what you were going to direct until maybe a few days before you started to prep on it.
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And when the word got around that I was the one who had landed the western.
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I mean, people were so irritated about that.
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I mean, he's an Englishman, he's a Shakespearean actor.
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What does he know about westerns?
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Well, actually I know a hell of a lot because I saw so many westerns.
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I loved westerns when I was a kid.
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To be honest, directing those, I think, five or six episodes over the last three seasons
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gave me an added energy, an added enthusiasm for what I was doing.
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A different kind of interest because being behind the camera is a very different experience.
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And I think it kept me active during the final couple of seasons of Next Generation.
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You have some of the most memorable lines in film, television, and theater.
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Can you tell me a line that sticks out to you?
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A line that you love?
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You know, there was a period of my life when I was doing a lot of Shakespeare when I worked.
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I worked for 12 years with the Royal Shakespeare Company in Stratford and London and touring worldwide.
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And people would have said to me, what is your favorite Shakespearean line?
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Well, you know, where do you begin?
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But I always loved the ordinary things he said, often very, very unexpectedly.
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So plain, so simple.
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For example, there's a moment at the end of one of my favorite plays, Winter's Tale,
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when Leontes the King, who believed his wife had died many, many, many years ago,
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and he was responsible for her death,
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is taken to see a statue of her that has been made.
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And the statue suddenly moves.
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And it's her.
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And she takes her ex-husband's hand, and he says, oh, she's warm.
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He used these simple, everyday phrases at times, and they have an almost shattering impact
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on the verse and the poetry that surrounds them.
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Actually, one of the lines that has become commonplace in our family was not said by me.
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It was said by Ian McKellen when we did Waiting for Godot.
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And he used to say to me with this emphasis, not now, Dee Dee, not now.
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Well, my wife has taken that up.
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So I go, not now, Patrick, not now.
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And there are lines that stick and that will never, ever really fade away.
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Do you have a favorite Star Trek movie, one that you love?
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I think the second movie, which was the one that Jonathan Frakes directed for First Contact,
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I think was outstanding and was the best of our four movies.
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And some of the episodes that Jonathan directed are also outstanding.
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And he is directing Star Trek Picard.
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Yes.
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Two episodes in the first season.
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And I think I can say with confidence he will be directing in other seasons if and when they happen.
07:56
My last question to you is about your social media presence.
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Because you have won the hearts of the internet with your friendship with Sir Ian McKellen and also your love of your rescue dog.
08:09
Oh, yeah.
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Can you please tell your fans what some advice that they might have if they would like long lasting friendships like the ones you have?
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I'm not sure how Ian would feel about our relationship being compared to my relationship with Pitbulls.
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Actually, it started very late because Ian had a very successful career.
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Ian was already becoming a star when he was at university, when he was at Cambridge.
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People knew that there was this actor.
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And I saw him when he was a young actor and I was blown away by what he did.
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Not only the talent, but he was so drop-dead gorgeous as well.
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And, you know, look at me.
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Not an open hell.
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And then it wasn't, and we did work in the Royal Shakespeare Company together.
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But I was very shy and shy of him.
09:03
He always seemed to be surrounded by people, good friends.
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But then we were cast in X-Men.
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And it was, we had adjoining trailers and that was when the relationship really began.
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And it was a simple matter that we found we had a huge amount in common.
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I love him deeply.
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And, of course, I think he's generally known now.
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He actually married my wife and I.
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He performed the ceremony.
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How lovely.
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He gave himself the documents that gave him permission to marry people.
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And he's only done it once.
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I know he's had offers to do others.
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I think he's been offered a lot of money to marry people.
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But at the moment it just remains in us.
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As for dogs, we are now beginning to discover more and more and more about the capacity for intelligent response that dogs have.
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For instance, our very first rescue dog was Ginger.
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And Ginger has now become an international superstar on social media.
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And she's now in a forever home and very, very happy.
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I was once rather unwell.
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And I was throwing up in the bathroom.
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It was a rather unpleasant side to this story.
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But my wife was at the other end of the house in the kitchen.
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And I didn't know this, but Ginger had been watching me.
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And I had my head in the toilet.
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And then she ran off to the kitchen and just began whimpering in front of Sunny, my wife.
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And Sunny said, what is it?
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What's wrong?
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What's wrong?
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And then she ran to the door.
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And Sunny realized she wanted her to follow her.
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So thinking something must have happened, she came and found me unwell in the bathroom.
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And the dog did that.
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Nobody asked her.
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But she saw what was happening and knew that I needed some help.
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And went to get it.
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And this level of empathic understanding that creatures have.
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And there are so many of your viewers right now at this moment could tell many, many more stories like that.
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And an intuitive sense that some dogs have for what we are feeling.
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Ginger would occasionally look at me and I know she would be saying, are you okay?
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That's, was the look in her, everything okay?
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Oh, and I would say, everything's great.
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Everything's fine.
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And she would go, oh, good, good.
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And she would go.
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Well, Patrick Stewart, congratulations on the new series, Picard.
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It's on CBS All Access.
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Thank you very much.
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And we'll see you out there in space.
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Eventually you will, yes.
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Yes, that's right.
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Yeah, let me show you more.
12:16
All right.
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