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00:00the culture. NBA legends Gary Payton and Tim Hardaway Sr. are here to talk about rivalries, fatherhood, and the past, present, and future of the NBA. We explain why more people need to be watching HBCU football, and a new league is coming for some of the WNBA's biggest stars, and they're offering some big money. What city is getting a new NBA team, and have international players caught up or surpassed American athletes? All this and more, this is 106 and Sport.
00:30Welcome, everybody, to 106 and Sport. Look, it is the day before Thanksgiving, so we're doing things a little different. We're doing it family style, so I'm hanging out in the audience, but I'm hanging out with the lit side of the audience.
00:56Yes, the real lit side, for sure. Don't worry about it. Watch this. Watch this. Watch this.
01:07Because I'm going to prove that this is the littest, most livest side.
01:13When I say aww, you say boo. You ready?
01:17Aww!
01:20You know what? I gotta say it. I gotta say it. I gotta say it.
01:25You know what?
01:27Go!
01:29Oh!
01:30That's cute, but right now, we're going to get this show started, so let's go this way.
01:34We ain't gotta worry about much. We got security over there. You hear that?
01:46Honey mustard security.
01:48Wow, yeah. How much you bench?
01:51He said, you? Watch out now. Watch out now.
01:55He said, Thanksgiving, he said, you just give me a whole plate of Ashley, and I'll be straight. You feel what I'm saying?
02:02We're counting down the top five moments in sports that matter to what? The culture.
02:07Yes, and like we said, tomorrow is Thanksgiving, so let's take a look at some of this week's highlights.
02:14First up, Beyonce and Jay-Z pulled up to the F1 Grand Prix in Las Vegas.
02:18That's Formula 1, the global racing series with cars that go up to 200 miles an hour, and B got a hot lap with Lewis Hamilton, making the race feel like a full-on celebrity event.
02:31Meanwhile, in the NFL, the Chiefs rallied to beat the Colts 23-20 thanks to Harrison Bucker's game-winning field goal in overtime.
02:39As Shadur said, it's won his Browns debut, throwing for 209 yards and a touchdown, and it went over the Raiders, 24-10. Shout out to Shadur.
02:51We're going to jump into number five on the countdown.
02:57Number five on our countdown is all about our favorite topic, and that is HBCUs.
03:02Every Thanksgiving, the classics take over.
03:05Absolutely. HBCU football isn't just a tradition. It's entertainment.
03:09The energy, the music, the culture.
03:11And two of the biggest games of the year happened.
03:14The Thanksgiving holiday weekend, the Turkey Day Classic, and the Bayou Classic.
03:19Now, granted, NBC Sports has media rights to the Bayou Classic through 2027, but that's just one of the few televised games.
03:27Networks still air random games between losing teams instead of other HBCU games with history, talent, and a halftime show better than most bowl games.
03:37But I want to ask this question.
03:40What needs to happen to get more eyes on HBCUs?
03:43Yeah, I mean, okay, Kim, so let's get into it.
03:46I mean, in your opinion, what is holding back the coverage?
03:49Is it marketing? Is it the perception of HBCUs, the type of talent that HBCU collegiate teams possess or don't possess?
03:58Where is the disconnect here?
04:00The disconnect is this.
04:02You got some teams like the Auburn and Alabama game that everybody going to be locked in for.
04:08Mm-hmm.
04:09You got the Michigans and Ohio States.
04:11And this year, this year, we're actually going to have a game like no other.
04:19The Georgia Tech and Georgia game?
04:21Yeah, it'll be big.
04:23You feel what I'm saying?
04:25But all them other ones, man, y'all can miss me with that.
04:29It's because, like, I find myself so oftentimes watching games that are irrelevant.
04:37Okay.
04:38Respectfully.
04:38Irrelevant in what sense?
04:40Entertainment irrelevant.
04:41It's like, that's a losing team, that's a losing team.
04:44But I might as well see something that's entertaining that impacts the culture.
04:48Because this is the thing.
04:49The reason why you became a Dallas Cowboy fan in more ways than one...
04:55I heard that, boo.
04:56Hold on to it.
04:57It's okay.
04:59The reason why you became a Dallas Cowboy fan is because the Dallas Cowboys were on TV a lot.
05:05Of course.
05:06Well, that's the reason my dad became a Cowboys fan.
05:08For sure.
05:08Which then trickled down to me.
05:09For sure.
05:10Now, what I would say is I would challenge any individual that were to experience the HBCU culture.
05:18Because everybody in my family went to an HBCU.
05:21Now, I did witness the Auburn-Alabama game.
05:26Which is an insane atmosphere.
05:28Insane.
05:28Incredible.
05:29Yes.
05:29But at the same time, for those other HBCU things, and when you walk into the airport and you see, you know, a Howard sweatshirt or a TSU sweatshirt or my parents met at Savannah State.
05:42When you see those type of things, it's an alliance and an allegiance that matches nothing.
05:48You know what I'm saying?
05:49For sure.
05:49So, for that, for the TV rights, I just challenge the networks to really give opportunities to HBCUs because it's worth the watch.
05:57I mean, football, Thanksgiving.
06:00It makes sense with an S, but we need y'all to make it make sense with a C.
06:08Don't let that fly over your head.
06:10Don't let that fly over your head.
06:11Don't let that fly over your head.
06:13Please don't.
06:13Well done.
06:13Very clever.
06:14Very clever.
06:14Okay.
06:14One thing that you got to do on Thanksgiving is you got to eat.
06:19I know.
06:19That's right.
06:20Look.
06:20Huh?
06:20But because this is 106 in sports, we're going to do it our way.
06:26It is time for the Thanksgiving Fantasy Draft.
06:38Okay.
06:38So, here's what we're going to do.
06:40Just like the NBA and just like the NFL, we're going to have ourselves a little draft.
06:43You know a thing or two about the NFL draft.
06:45Yeah.
06:46So, but instead of drafting players, Cam, we're going to be drafting Thanksgiving food.
06:51Okay.
06:52All right.
06:52So, here's how it's going to work.
06:54Look at this.
06:54We've got the board here.
06:55We're going to take turns going back and forth until each of us has picked five items.
07:01Then, the live-est audience is going to decide whose house or whose table they want to eat at.
07:08Okay.
07:09All right.
07:10Ladies first.
07:10Yes.
07:11Go right ahead.
07:12Go right ahead.
07:13I'm just going to go ahead and take mac and cheese off the board.
07:18Let's go, Cam.
07:19And with the first pick, the Cam Newton Eaters, oh, decides to go with vegetarian stuffing.
07:30Already lost.
07:33Okay.
07:34Okay.
07:36Okay.
07:36Um, I'm going to take, along with my mac and cheese, I'm going to go with the turkey.
07:45Okay.
07:46Okay.
07:47I don't eat pork.
07:48That's the only reason.
07:49Okay.
07:49Okay.
07:49Okay.
07:50Uh, we're going to go with the yams.
07:53I'm going to go with the yams on the plate and in the bed.
08:16I'm going to go with the yams.
08:23Okay.
08:24Um, well, with the third pick in my draft, I'm going to go and take the greens.
08:30Okay.
08:31Um, with the third pick, we're going to go with cranberry sauce with our stuffing.
08:41Um, ladies and gentlemen, with the fourth pick in the 2025 Thanksgiving Drak, Ashley selects
08:53the cornbread.
09:00Cam Newton's Eaters goes with the rice.
09:05Okay, that sounds lovely.
09:12Okay.
09:14My final pick in the 2025 Thanksgiving Drak will be sweet potato pie.
09:28Thank you very much.
09:30Thank you very much.
09:35With the fifth and final pick of the 2025 Thanksgiving Fantasy Drak, Cam Newton's Eaters decides to go
09:54rob Ashley's house for her mac and cheese.
09:59You dig it up there?
10:00We're going to take her mac and cheese.
10:03We're going to take her mac and cheese.
10:04We're going to take her mac and cheese.
10:07You can't get it.
10:08We're going to take it.
10:10Put your mind going.
10:12Well, are you forfeiting your final pick?
10:15Auntie, listen, listen.
10:16You got pumpkin pie left.
10:18Listen.
10:19You got pumpkin pie left.
10:23You can draft the pumpkin pie.
10:25Baby girl, you must understand this.
10:29I don't know who needs to tell her, but I'm going to tell her that we don't eat no pumpkin pie.
10:38We ain't no pumpkin pie.
10:40You took two potato pie.
10:41And I was not going to disrespect my team by bringing in some pumpkin pie.
10:48Well, so we're going to go to Ashley's house and take her mac and cheese.
10:55Well, look, I just want the record to show that at Ashley's Thanksgiving, we're going to have turkey, greens, mac and cheese, cornbread, and sweet potato pie.
11:11And we are also going to have a plethora.
11:22My security is right here because Ken's going to try to rob us.
11:26Yeah, Ken, don't step in my boy.
11:30Don't step in my boy.
11:31Do something, then.
11:33Hey, um, I'm going to just tell you like this.
11:37Yeah.
11:37If y'all want to go to Ashley's house for Thanksgiving, make some noise.
11:41Okay, okay, okay, okay.
11:53If y'all want to go to Kim's house for Thanksgiving, make some noise.
12:00Don't worry about it.
12:02I have y'all know.
12:04I have y'all know that if you decided to go to Ashley's house.
12:11Nicole Moss' house for Thanksgiving and her dinner selections.
12:14She's going to have the veggies and the proteins.
12:17They didn't give me no beans.
12:19We would have had lentils.
12:22But it's all right, though.
12:22It just keeps getting worse and worse.
12:25It's all right.
12:26Lentils?
12:27That's all right.
12:27Okay.
12:28We got Big Unc Energy in the building.
12:30Two legendary NBA Hall of Famers are coming up.
12:33Gary Payton and Tim Hardaway Sr. are here.
12:37Plus, are the Grizzlies heading to Vegas?
12:40Make sure you don't move.
12:42This is 106 of Sports.
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12:51Welcome back, everybody, to 106 in Sports,
13:00where culture meets the game.
13:02We are still counting down our top five moments feeding the culture.
13:07But before that, we have a very special guest in the building.
13:11You ready for our first guest of the show?
13:15Yeah.
13:16Here we go.
13:16He's a true legend of the game,
13:18one of the toughest defenders and biggest smack talkers in NBA league history.
13:24He is also a Hall of Famer, an NBA and two-time Olympic champion,
13:29the first point guard ever to win the DPOY,
13:33that is Defensive Player of the Year.
13:36Please, everybody, welcome NBA great Gary Payton.
13:48What's up, man?
13:51What's up with you?
13:52How you doing, man?
13:53You good?
13:54How you doing?
13:57Well, OG came in here like this, but, hey, come on, now.
14:02But he's smooth with it, ain't he?
14:04Do I need to sit in between y'all and let the Holy Ghost get through?
14:07Lord Jesus!
14:08Hey, wait.
14:09First of all, let me tell y'all about that little segment y'all just did with that food.
14:13Give it to him.
14:14Give it to him.
14:15Talk to me.
14:15Man, I'm going to give y'all a picture of my food, man.
14:17You're a vegetarian, you don't eat pork, right?
14:20But that wasn't happening in the day, man.
14:22We was going to have them yams, cabbage.
14:24That's how we was rolling, you know?
14:26We had a salad.
14:27We had about nine different things that you can bing, bing, bing, bing.
14:30Not the bing, bing, bing, bing!
14:32You know what I'm saying?
14:33Bro, you had to bing, bing, bing it, man.
14:35You know what I'm saying?
14:36I mean, and do it like that.
14:37Listen, when we intro'd you, we gave a list of accolades,
14:41but we also mentioned you were one of the best trash talkers in NBA history.
14:45Is the trash talk something that still happens over Thanksgiving?
14:48No.
14:49I'm a grown man and a parent now.
14:51You know what I'm saying?
14:52I got them little grandbabies running around, so I can't talk all that mess.
14:56Well, y'all said the devil's still lying in 2025.
14:59But if the people want to know, what was you and Kevin Durant talking about on the little docu-series?
15:08You know what I'm saying?
15:09Like, you was putting it together, brother.
15:11But, Cam, I ain't no punk.
15:12Hello.
15:12I'm still going to say something.
15:14Come on.
15:14You know what I'm saying?
15:15He said he up here, then I said I'm on the roof.
15:17You know what I'm saying?
15:19Which I am on the roof.
15:20You feel me?
15:21You know what I'm saying?
15:22Yeah.
15:23But we had a little fun.
15:24You know?
15:24Right.
15:24And that's what we had to do.
15:25We had a fun during the game, and he took it to the level,
15:28and then I took it to another level.
15:30He took it to another, and then we kept going.
15:32Do you think that Kevin Durant gets a bad rep because he is someone who likes to clap back?
15:37Do you think that people misunderstand him?
15:39I think he's just like Kobe.
15:42He was just misunderstood.
15:43He's a guy who's going to fire back at you.
15:46He's going to do the things that he has to do.
15:48And I just think sometimes you've got to tone it down.
15:51I don't think KD is wrong about nothing he does.
15:54As long as you can back it up.
15:56That's why I talked a lot of smack, a lot of trash on the court,
15:59because couldn't nobody deal with me on the basketball court.
16:02I want to ask you in this facet, because a lot of times, everybody always says,
16:07this person could not play in this day and age.
16:12I want you to identify the players that's in the league right now
16:17that could be successful when you were playing in the NBA.
16:22I think KD could have played in my era.
16:26I think LeBron could have played in my era.
16:28I think Steph could have played in our era.
16:30He would have got beat up a little bit, but he could have been almost like an Allen Iverson.
16:35You know, running around.
16:36And he runs alone.
16:37Doing things like that.
16:38I think they would have been different to adjust to our era,
16:41because we had a lot of rules.
16:42They're more up and down the floor.
16:44But everybody can adjust.
16:46We were blessed a couple years ago to see the documentary, The Last Dance.
16:53And you were on record for making a message to MJ.
16:58Those type of battles, what were they like for you to be an individual
17:04that had to face a guy like Michael Jordan?
17:06Great.
17:07Because I wanted to play him every day.
17:09I wanted to play everybody every day.
17:11I don't run away from nobody.
17:13When Mike played me in the finals, and every time he played me,
17:17I wanted all that smoke.
17:19But you got to understand, he had to come back and guard me, too.
17:22So everybody said they have dogs.
17:25My daddy raised a wolf.
17:27I eat dogs.
17:28Jerry West said that.
17:29One of my favorite quotes he ever said.
17:32Well, we're going to continue to pick Gary's brain
17:34as we dive into the number four story on our countdown,
17:37and it's all about relocation.
17:39There's a lot of talk around the league
17:41that the Pelicans and the Grizzlies could be the next NBA teams that's on the move.
17:46Both franchises have expiring arena deals,
17:49and reports say low attendance and money trouble could open the door for relocation.
17:55When a team leaves, a city loses more than fans.
17:59It's pride, jobs, and identity.
18:01We've seen it before in Cleveland after LeBron left,
18:04and Gary, we saw it in Seattle when your Sonics became the OKC Thunder.
18:09People oftentimes forget the humanistic side of being an athlete.
18:16Can you talk to us about any type of relocation from either a trade
18:21or in a situation where a whole team just pack up and leave and go to another city?
18:25It's hard to take a team away from a city.
18:30I don't care what nobody says.
18:31That breaks its people's heart.
18:33It breaks fans' heart.
18:34And it broke our hearts from Seattle,
18:36and it's going on almost 18 years that we haven't had a team.
18:40And we want our team back, and we're pushing for that.
18:44Moving Memphis and the Pelicans will be the wrong move.
18:47But I think we need to have new franchise come in,
18:50and we can build it up from there.
18:52So it's not necessarily about relocation.
18:53It's about expansion.
18:54Yeah.
18:55Because I think most people remember the last players the Supersonics drafted,
18:58it was Kevin Durant and Westbrook.
19:00Westbrook.
19:00Right, and then they became the Oklahoma City Thunder.
19:02So can you walk me through that moment when you found out that the Supersonics
19:07were no longer going to be the Seattle Supersonics?
19:10Because I'm interested from your vantage point what that was like.
19:13It was devastating.
19:14Because what I had heard is that we had the team to stay.
19:20And then all of a sudden, boom, they announced it.
19:24That's devastating to see a team that I played for 13 years.
19:28We still talk about the Seattle Supersonics of today.
19:31And I'm still being a big part of it to get it back to our Seattle.
19:36So how close are we?
19:38Because we've heard Kevin Durant talk about it.
19:40We've heard Adam Silver talk about it.
19:42At one point, we heard, rest in peace, David Stern talk about it.
19:45But how close are we to actually getting the Supersonics back in Seattle?
19:49Very close.
19:50We got everything.
19:51We got the Seahawks.
19:52We got the Mariners.
19:53We got the Storm.
19:55We got everything.
19:57Got that NHL.
19:58We got everything.
19:59I think it's close.
20:00Very, very close.
20:01We like that.
20:02Yeah, clap it up for the Supersonics, for real.
20:04That would be amazing.
20:06Kevin Durant gets his jersey retired in the rafters before he hangs it up.
20:10But would it be...
20:11It was the team that drafted him.
20:13It wasn't his fault that it became the Thunder.
20:15Well, we got to go with Sean Kemp.
20:18That's all I'm saying.
20:20I'm not going to even say it myself.
20:21I'm just going to be...
20:22I'm going to say it.
20:23I'll do that last.
20:24I do think it would be cool for him to sign a one-day contract and go back to the team that introduced him to the NBA.
20:30And let me tell you, I think that's what he's really waiting for.
20:33He wants to do that.
20:34I think my son is born and raised from there.
20:37He wants to go back there.
20:39A lot of people want to play for Seattle.
20:41And I think that's why the reason that it should come back.
20:44And it will be back.
20:45Well, look.
20:46Your lips to God's ears that soon enough, we will be seeing the Seattle Supersonics back on our NBA schedules.
20:54Look, the legendary Gary Payton is not going anywhere.
20:57He's coming back later in the show.
20:59So don't move because Tim Hardaway Sr. is in the building.
21:03Plus, the countdown continues.
21:05This is 106 in Sports.
21:16Welcome back, everybody, to 106 in Sports, where culture meets the game.
21:20It's almost time for us to get into the number three on our countdown.
21:24But before that, you guys ready for our next guest?
21:29He's one of the coldest point guards to ever do it.
21:31A five-time All-Star and Hall of Famer who changed the game with his own crossover.
21:37Ooh, the creator of the killer crossover, a Miami Heat legend, an Olympic gold medalist.
21:44And he's one of the few whose moves still get copied by players today.
21:50Everybody, please welcome NBA icon, Tim Hardaway Sr.
21:55How are you?
21:57How are you?
21:58I'm good.
21:59I'm good.
22:00I'm really good.
22:01Hello.
22:02Hello.
22:03Welcome.
22:05Come on in.
22:06You got your seat, your seat, yeah.
22:07Right here.
22:08Like, how did you come up with the move?
22:09Let's just, let's start with that because, like, nowadays there's been so many hesies and
22:27different forms of crossing over, but you were the originator of the crossover.
22:35Yeah.
22:36You know, I grew up in Chicago and I patterned my game after Isaiah Thomas.
22:41Mm-hmm.
22:42And we used to have, like, on the concrete, if you dribble outside of the concrete on the
22:47grass, you was out of bounds, so you had to get the ball up.
22:50So you had to stay in a box.
22:52So it was a tight box where you had to stay in.
22:54And when kids tell me, ah, I can't go and work on my game by myself, that's insulting
23:00my intelligence.
23:01Mm.
23:02Wow.
23:03You know, it's snowing outside, it's two degrees outside, there's nowhere to go.
23:08And I used to go downstairs and visualize playing a basketball game, downstairs with
23:14a ball, two beams, an eight-foot tall ceiling, and two walls.
23:20I used to pass off the wall and just come down and do crossover moves, in and out moves,
23:24behind the back move, and just visualize playing against guys that people thought that
23:30was better than me.
23:31Mm.
23:32When I went out and played basketball, it was easy.
23:35Dribbling was easy.
23:36Other, you know, the game just was easy to me, because I worked at it for an hour, hour
23:41and a half downstairs.
23:42Yeah.
23:43And, you know, so when kids tell me I can't work on my game by myself, that's insulting
23:48my intelligence, because that's what I did.
23:49Right.
23:50When we were kind of talking about it, and we were talking about you, we said we see a
23:54lot of you in so many different players, just aspects of your game, whether it's your
23:59ball handling, whether it's the crossover, whether it's just your tenacity.
24:03Who's a player that you see so much of yourself in, and you can't name your son?
24:08You know, Darius Garland, from Cleveland Cavaliers, Kay Cunningham.
24:15Who's having a phenomenal season right now.
24:17Yes, Kay Cunningham is having a phenomenal season right now.
24:19Yeah, for sure.
24:20How are you feeling about his development as a player?
24:24So Kay Cunningham, first of all, he's healthy.
24:26Right.
24:27You know, these past two years, he's been healthy.
24:30And the coaching staff, bigger staff, he's put the ball in Kay's hand.
24:34He's saying, look, run my team the way you did at Oklahoma State, because you was number
24:39one pick here with the Detroit Pistons.
24:41So you come here, you run a team like you're supposed to run it, and he's just taking off.
24:45He put the team on his back last year.
24:47For you in basketball, what is the biggest issue that you have with fundamentals or the game
24:53from the younger generation?
24:56They don't work on their craft.
24:57They don't work on their game.
24:58You know, we used to play one-on-one.
25:00For sure.
25:01You know, Gary Payton and I, it's a funny story.
25:03We went to the same recruiting trip at Texas El Paso.
25:09Wow.
25:10UTEP.
25:11UTEP.
25:12And we was playing whole court, me and Gary.
25:15And after practice, me and him was playing.
25:18And they was like, where's Tim and Gary at?
25:20Yeah.
25:21We had to come back down there and get us.
25:23And they thought we was coming back up.
25:24We kept playing for another 30 minutes.
25:26Wow.
25:27They had to come take the ball from us.
25:28Rip it from you.
25:29Rip it.
25:30That's how competitive we are.
25:32I don't think these kids play one-on-one.
25:34And when they do play one-on-one, it's a camera phone.
25:37Everywhere is a camera phone.
25:39And everybody want to show this on social media, show that on social media.
25:44They don't want to get embarrassed.
25:46Either you're going to get embarrassed in front of 20,000 people or you're going to get embarrassed on social media.
25:51You're still going to get embarrassed.
25:52I tell kids, you're going to get dunked on.
25:54You're going to get crossed over.
25:56You're going to get three-pointer shot on you.
25:58You're going to shoot air balls.
25:59That's just the name of the game.
26:01But you got to come out here and work on your game.
26:03And I think a lot of these kids, and I commend a butler.
26:08Jimmy Butler.
26:09Jimmy Butler.
26:10For playing one-on-one with guys to get their game better and to make them understand.
26:13We hit a ball.
26:14We had to win something.
26:15And that's what it was when we was growing up.
26:17Yeah, for sure.
26:18I mean, you worked on your game so much, you're now in the Hall of Fame.
26:21Okay?
26:22So clap it up.
26:23The Hall of Famer.
26:24I got to show y'all something.
26:25I got a book coming out.
26:26Yes.
26:27Killer Crossover, your book.
26:28I got a book coming out November the 11th.
26:31Killer Crossover from the streets of Chicago to Basketball Royalty.
26:34It talks about everything, how I grew up, my parents, all that type of stuff, how I dealt
26:40with my son.
26:41You know, me and Gary, we have similar ideas in what we did with our kids.
26:48Like I tell people today, I had to be quiet.
26:51I had to shut up.
26:52Or my son wouldn't have made it to the NBA.
26:54So as parents, like Gary said, let them learn.
26:58Let them learn.
27:00Let them go out there and play and understand what they need to do to get better.
27:05And let them go through the tribes and tribulations of getting better.
27:09Because I wanted his mentality to be just like mine.
27:13We got to understand, our kids grew up with a silver spoon in their mouth.
27:17We grew up with playing in dirt every day.
27:20That's fact.
27:21And we had to grind for it every day.
27:24Yeah.
27:25It's time for us to get into our number three topic.
27:27And that is all about a global women's basketball league called Project B.
27:31They just made a major move by signing Seattle Sounder and WNBA Players Union President Nneka Agumake to a seven-figure deal.
27:43Man.
27:46Seven figures.
27:47Yeah, seven.
27:48Let me borrow a dollar.
27:50For years, WNBA players have been talking about low pay.
27:53Project B is saying you don't have to choose between love of the game and getting paid.
27:59Now Tim, obviously we are in a very important time of the WNBA because there is a potential lockout looming.
28:07What does the future of the WNBA look like?
28:09Well, first of all, kudos to her.
28:12And kudos to her making a business decision.
28:16You always got to make business decisions.
28:18And I always say take the money.
28:21Take the money.
28:22Get that money.
28:24Don't need that money on the table because you can't get it back.
28:27Yeah.
28:28I always say that.
28:29So I think that this is big.
28:31Yeah.
28:32For the WNBA.
28:33I think what's really, really big, if they go into lockout, it's going to be a lot of players going overseas.
28:40And playing overseas and going and get those figures overseas.
28:44If she gets a million dollars, what age would we do?
28:48Listen.
28:49We already knew what Ice Cube was offering her to play in the big three.
28:51She turned it down.
28:52Right.
28:53But look, Tim, you're not going anywhere because we are going to continue this conversation.
28:58But we want to know what you at home think.
29:00So use the hashtag 106inSports to join the conversation.
29:03And Tim Hardaway Sr. is still staying here.
29:06We also get Gary Payton back.
29:08Plus, we're still counting down the top stories in sports.
29:11And number two is all about second generation ballers.
29:14These guys know a thing about that.
29:16Don't move.
29:17Welcome back to 106inSports.
29:34We're here with Gary Payton and Tim Hardaway Sr.
29:37Two NBA legends.
29:39Now we already know you guys have a relationship outside of the court, but when you played each other, who talked the most trash?
29:45We're going to say both.
29:47Yeah.
29:48We both, we both, we both.
29:49Come on, Cam.
29:50We both were competitive because Tim was in my home city.
29:54And, you know, we came back with each other doing things like that.
29:59And me and Tim was supposed to really play on the same team in college at El Paso.
30:04And we, it was always a rival there.
30:06You know what I'm saying?
30:07But we always had respect for each other because we grew up in the same type of neighborhoods and the same type of things.
30:14So I'm going to put it like this, huh?
30:16Uh-oh.
30:17Since this is a Thanksgiving episode, we're going to have an old round table discussion.
30:21And, uh, I'm going to give both of you a paragraph to make your point.
30:27You and your son versus him and his son.
30:31Ooh.
30:32Ooh.
30:33Who going to win?
30:35One paragraph.
30:36Anybody want to go first?
30:37This is so big.
30:38Hey, you know what?
30:41The plot thickens.
30:42But if all of us in our prime, that's going to be a good one.
30:45Yes.
30:46Because we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to muscle it up and be tough.
30:49Uh-huh.
30:50But who's going to win?
30:51I'm going to tell you this.
30:52Uh-huh.
30:53Whoever gets the ball last.
30:55Going to win.
30:56Is going to win.
30:57Make it.
30:58Take it.
30:59Right.
31:00Whoever gets the ball last.
31:01So if I get it and I go six in a row, that's game.
31:05Yeah.
31:06Well, I'm glad you mentioned both of your sons or Cam mentioned both of your sons.
31:11Because you both are fathers to current players.
31:14And that brings us to the number two story on our countdown.
31:17And it's all about the next generation of athletes.
31:20And it's not just about them carrying on the legacy of their names, but trying to make a legacy of their own.
31:26From Kaya and Anthony to the Boozer twins, to all types of famous sons in college sports.
31:33They're all out here making headlines of their own.
31:36We've got two fathers who know their life firsthand.
31:39Both raised sons who made it to the league, so they know a thing or two about this position.
31:45Yeah.
31:46They're obviously doing something right.
31:47And I want to ask you guys, where is the line for you both between your last name opening doors, but your skill set keeping you in those rooms?
31:57I haven't seen too many of basketball player, great basketball player's sons become great basketball players.
32:03True.
32:04You know what I'm saying?
32:05Why do you think that is?
32:06We grew up different.
32:07Yeah, grew up.
32:08We grew up different.
32:09Our mentality is different.
32:10I'll give you one.
32:11You know, who?
32:12Curry.
32:13He's better than Sal Curry.
32:14He's better than Sal Curry.
32:15So good ain't good?
32:16But his daddy was good, but I think he's better than he became great.
32:20So you're saying it's either one or the other.
32:22Somebody has to.
32:23Yeah, gotta be great.
32:24And we haven't even seen two great basketball players.
32:27Son, father.
32:28So you're saying like a Michael Jordan and then a Michael Jordan.
32:31Who is gonna become Hall of Famers together.
32:34Wow.
32:35Let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, we haven't seen one of them.
32:37And you think that goes to the origin, like the beginnings of your story, your basketball
32:42story, if you will.
32:43Of course.
32:44Of course.
32:45You know, and I, you know, like, I like what they doing with Carmelo's son.
32:48Yeah.
32:49They bringing him off the bench.
32:50They not giving it to him right now.
32:52You know, you gotta earn the respect of being a freshman.
32:55You gotta come in and go through the do's and don'ts of being a freshman.
32:59And he understands that.
33:01When he comes on the court, he got more respect for his team and more respect for the game.
33:06Yeah.
33:07A lot of guys, it's, it's evident early.
33:09You know what I'm saying?
33:10I think in basketball, you have to have an element of skill that is not always translated
33:16or is, is patient for people to kind of digest.
33:20My question to you guys is, do you see the shift of what's happening in Memphis?
33:26Right?
33:27With Ja.
33:28And what would your advice kind of be for him?
33:32We know what he's capable of.
33:34And if you could send a message, what would that message be as he's going through what we know him to go through?
33:40Let me say this.
33:41Ja doesn't have a veteran.
33:43Mm.
33:44That we, we came in, we had a veteran or two or three that will smack you on your butt.
33:52Or bring you over here and say, yo man, this is not how we do things around here.
33:56This is what you gotta do and this is how a team is supposed to be formed.
34:00And that was a big thing for us.
34:02When I came into the NBA, I had nine players who had played seven or eight more years in the NBA.
34:10I had to go around and carry coffee to them at six in the morning.
34:14I had to take care of Xavier McDaniel's daughter and go pick her up from school.
34:19See, this is the type of growing up that you need and you're, and you become that person.
34:25But when you get these big millions and don't know what to do, it seems to make you be messed up.
34:30Yeah.
34:31And I see it too.
34:32I see it as he's not having fun.
34:34I want him to go back to having fun.
34:36And Ja, if you listen to me right now, I think, guy, you just gotta go back to yourself.
34:42We'll be right back with more from these two legends.
34:45This is 106 in Sports.
34:55Welcome back, everybody, to 106 in Sports.
35:00We're here with Gary Payton and Tim Hardaway Sr.
35:03We are finally down to our number one topic.
35:06Something to think about.
35:07Is the globalization of sports hurting American athletes?
35:10The 2025 World Series was the most watched in 34 years.
35:1551 million people tuned in across the U.S., Canada, and Japan, all thanks to stars like Shohei Otani.
35:23At the same time, the NFL is playing games in Berlin and Madrid, and the NBA hasn't had an American MVP in seven years.
35:30It's proof that the world's not just watching, it's competing.
35:33And is the U.S. still home of the best players or just the biggest leagues?
35:38When you guys played, it was Americans that were dominating.
35:42Now, with it being...
35:43In the NBA.
35:44Specifically about the NBA.
35:45Specifically about the NBA.
35:46Specifically about the NBA.
35:47How do we get back to Americans dominating the sport?
35:52Or are we thinking too much into it?
35:54And before you guys answer that, I want to give everybody some context.
35:56The last few MVPs in the NBA have all been what?
35:59International players.
36:00International players.
36:01Well, I think that we don't have more players like me and Tim Nim.
36:05In the 90s, we had a basketball player at every position.
36:09This is true.
36:10And I think that the 400 players are catching up.
36:13There have been a league play since they was 14.
36:15Right.
36:16Since they was 14.
36:17Yeah, they've been playing like NBA basketball.
36:19Yeah.
36:20I mean, look at Wemby.
36:21Now, the 2028 Olympics coming up in L.A., you have to think.
36:23Wemby's gonna be playing for Team France.
36:25I'm scared.
36:26SGA's gonna be playing for Canada.
36:27I'm scared.
36:28Is the U.S. in danger of no longer having the best talent, the best homegrown talent, when you look at the landscape of basketball?
36:37Well, I say it like this.
36:39We're not gonna have the Currys who made all the big shots in this Olympics this year.
36:44Right.
36:45We won't have the LeBrons.
36:46Right.
36:47So these other younger guys, that's gonna have to step up.
36:49And it might, I don't know.
36:52I think it might probably close.
36:53How you feeling?
36:54I'm very nervous.
36:55I don't see nobody that's going to go out there and wow us.
36:59You know, I think Tatum, Brown, after that.
37:02Booker.
37:03Booker.
37:04Donovan Mitchell.
37:05Anthony Edwards.
37:06You have the Johns.
37:07But I mean, and we just talking about guards.
37:10What makes me nervous the most is all our stars are older.
37:15Right.
37:16When I say older, 35, they're not gonna be.
37:18Well, Katie's gonna try.
37:19We know that.
37:20Yeah, but it's, even if he tries, it's not a recipe for longevity.
37:26But I'm gonna tell you this, Cam.
37:28When we get to international play, you talking about street ball.
37:32Facts.
37:33Different rules.
37:34Different rules.
37:35Different rules.
37:36I mean, you could push.
37:37Physicality is everything.
37:38Physicality is totally different from what they're playing now.
37:40Like when we was on the 2000 team, we knew about the physicality.
37:44Mm-hmm.
37:45We went in there hitting people first.
37:46Yeah.
37:47These guys today, they gotta get back to being physical because they've been playing like
37:51this for so many years.
37:53Right.
37:54And I think what's gonna be good about us is that we're gonna be on our home soil this
37:57time.
37:58Yes.
37:59We're gonna be in LA.
38:00So the referee is gonna be a little bit different.
38:02But like what you guys said, it's scary because we don't know what player is gonna be
38:07able to come and show up.
38:08Right.
38:09Canada is gonna be ready.
38:10A lot of these teams are gonna be ready.
38:12Canada got about eight.
38:132028 is definitely gonna be interesting and maybe even a little bit spooky.
38:17You heard it from two goats right here on 106 in sports.
38:20That's gonna do it for us.
38:22Everybody, please clap it up for Gary Payne and Tim Hardaway Sr. for joining us.
38:27And thank you all for rocking with us.
38:30Make sure you hit us up using the hashtag 106 in sports.
38:33Cam, as usual, you have the final word.
38:36It is Thanksgiving.
38:37Remember that.
38:38It is Thanksgiving.
38:39And you know, I'm not gonna lead us in a chant, but tender moment, vulnerable moment.
38:45My grandmother, this time last year, had I known that would be my last time witnessing
38:52or being a part of a Thanksgiving with her, I would have hugged on her a little bit more.
38:57I would have kissed her a little bit longer.
38:59I would have just stayed around her a little bit longer.
39:02So do not take these moments for granted.
39:05And I'm sorry to bring it all the way down, but I'm gonna bring it back up.
39:10Everybody, on the count of three, tell me that you're thankful.
39:15Say thankful on three.
39:16One, two, three!
39:19Appreciate you.
39:20As always, in the one finger, one pinky, one thumb.
39:23One love.
39:24You feel me?
39:25Okay.
39:26Thank you, everyone.
39:27We'll see you next time!
39:30Thank you!
39:31We'll see you next time.
39:32We'll see you next time.
39:35We'll see you next time.
39:37I ain't even talked back with baseball.
39:40I don't see no brothers claim on baseball, I think.
39:46Brinkies are the world.
39:49Hey, my friend.
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