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00:01Can you recall the moment you found out about what had happened?
00:07Well, I found her. I mean, I was the one that walked in the room
00:10and found her laying on the floor.
00:15I lost it. I can't hardly speak about it.
00:18She was all I had left.
00:21This just wasn't supposed to happen.
00:24It wasn't supposed to happen.
00:27I hold these secrets inside my bones.
00:35How long can I keep them from my shadows?
00:43I was telling my girls about this case.
00:45She's a pretty girl. She's young.
00:48She's living her life, and because she's out trying to meet people,
00:52her risk factor goes up and she ends up being dead.
00:55Steve and I are here in Arkansas to look into the 1997 murder of a sweet, bubbly mother and hairdresser
01:03named Tracy Holloway, who was murdered on the night of her 30th birthday.
01:08She turns 30 years old. She goes out to celebrate like anybody would.
01:12And then we're thinking the murder happened sometime after midnight on the 27th, right?
01:17Clearly after midnight.
01:19What did you think when you were reading it?
01:21That is a brutal homicide.
01:23She has got skull fractures.
01:25Her neck is cut. She dies of manual strangulation.
01:28You talk about overkill. Holy man.
01:31I've been doing this a long time, and this crime looks personal.
01:34There's no signs of sexual assault, but everything about this scene points to jealousy and rage.
01:39When I read this case, I actually read it thinking, wow, this is a whodunit.
01:44There's three men involved, and I really couldn't figure out, as I turned each page, which one did it.
01:50Big red flag. She's going through a divorce, and she's out starting to strut her stuff.
01:54And you know that's not going to sit well with the soon-to-be ex-husband.
01:57I think that he just loses it.
02:00That's not who I'm looking at in my head.
02:02She's dating a new guy who's younger than her, and they just broke up.
02:07I don't know. I know we don't always agree. I'll tell you that much.
02:10Steve thinks he knows who killed Tracy. I've got my own theory.
02:14And there's a third suspect involved who could prove us both wrong.
02:18But we need to uncover the truth, whoever it was, and get justice for Tracy.
02:22She's not doing anything wrong.
02:24She just happens to be in the middle of a bunch of male egos, and here we are.
02:29It's going to be a tough week. You don't agree with me again.
02:32If you're right, I'll admit it.
02:33I've just got a problem thinking it's going to be the husband right now this time.
02:37Hello.
02:38Detective B.J. Rouse.
02:39Nice to meet you. I'm Kelly.
02:40Lieutenant, welcome.
02:41Hey, Lieutenant.
02:42Hi, Hayley.
02:43Thank you for inviting us, Lieutenant. We appreciate it.
02:45We're so glad you are here.
02:46We're hoping to get somewhere and help you out this week.
02:49I read your police report honestly like a page going,
02:52Oh my God, what's going to happen next?
02:54Right.
02:55It's crazy.
02:56It's a lot going on, yeah.
02:57Probably a lot more you need to tell us too, right?
02:59Yeah, absolutely.
03:00Okay, let's go.
03:01Tracy Hallway's death shocked this whole town.
03:04I talked to people at the time and said they're changing out the locks on their houses.
03:09It just wasn't something that you would think in small town Searcy, Arkansas.
03:14B.J., you're pretty young. How old are you?
03:16I'm 35.
03:17And you're even younger. How old are you?
03:1825.
03:19Wow. Is there anybody else besides y'all doing it?
03:21On the hallway case?
03:22Uh-huh.
03:23Not actively, just me and her.
03:24Okay.
03:25This case is actually 28 years old, so I was not even born when Tracy died.
03:29But to me, that doesn't matter.
03:31People deserve justice. That's what we're here for.
03:34If that's my mother or sister that got beaten to death, then I wouldn't stop.
03:38And so we have to do the same thing. We can't stop.
03:40Tracy was a 30-year-old hairdresser that worked here in town.
03:45She recently had been separated from her husband, Larry, and she was a mother.
03:51Was that Larry's son?
03:52Yes.
03:53And he's two at the time?
03:54She was a friendly person. Everybody loved her.
03:57And on June 26, she was going out to celebrate her birthday with a friend and shoot some pool.
04:03And then, of course, on the morning of the 27th, she didn't show up for work.
04:0730 years old on her birthday.
04:09Yeah.
04:10Tracy had a young son she was crazy about.
04:13She had just gotten a brand-new place of her own, and she was just starting to see other people.
04:18She was murdered just when she was starting over again.
04:21At approximately 9.43 a.m., the patrolman responded to the scene.
04:26When he enters the room, he finds Tracy on the floor.
04:29She was wearing a half-night gown with a pair of panties on.
04:32She had suffered quite a bit of blunt force trauma to her head, shoulders, her abdomen area, her chest.
04:37Her throat was slit, and she was strangled.
04:41Wow. That's a lot.
04:43Tracy was beaten with an unknown blunt object, possibly a tool with a tubular handle.
04:48Her throat was likely cut with a pocket knife.
04:50Neither weapon was ever recovered, and there were no useful fingerprints or DNA identified.
04:55They immediately start looking for suspects.
04:58Steve Webb, he's the last one to see her alive.
05:01He's the one actually with her that night.
05:04Right.
05:05Tracy went out to the Elks Lodge that night, celebrated her 30th birthday, and she met Steve Webb.
05:10Steve started buying some drinks, and they started shooting pool, and they're having a good time.
05:14They stayed until closing time, and then she leaves the bar that night.
05:18His problem is he keeps changing his story.
05:20Sure.
05:21What's the most important part he left out of the story in the beginning?
05:23That he even entered the residence.
05:25That he went to that house.
05:26Yes.
05:27Yes.
05:28Steve Webb initially told the investigators that he last saw Tracy when she left the bar that
05:33night.
05:34But witnesses that later came forward said they saw Steve's car hauler leaving her house in
05:40the early morning hours.
05:41So he was re-questioned, and he changed the story.
05:44According to Steve's testimony, they decided to go back to Tracy's house.
05:49They had some sweet tea on the porch, talked for a while.
05:52He said that they say goodnight to each other, and then he left and went home.
05:56As a cop, you think what when you're having to drag all this out of somebody?
05:59They're guilty.
06:00Why lie?
06:01For motive.
06:02Is there anything that would have made Steven Webb mad?
06:05I mean, how much was he thinking he was going to get lucky?
06:08She wasn't sexually assaulted.
06:10But what if he thought he was going to get lucky?
06:13Right.
06:14Steve Webb changed his story several times.
06:16This is a major red flag.
06:18We clearly need to look at him.
06:19But we also need to look at the other men in Tracy's life.
06:22Larry Hallway.
06:24Separated husband?
06:25They've been separated for months.
06:27He's an extremely violent man, Larry was.
06:29How do you know that?
06:31Not long after the court finds him guilty of felony battery against his son.
06:38And he's adopted by the grandparents.
06:40Wow.
06:41Tracy's husband has a history of abuse.
06:44In addition to physically abusing his and Tracy's son, his first wife also divorced him for abusing her and threatening to kill him.
06:51How's their son doing today?
06:53He is currently at the White County Jail for two counts of capital murder, where a woman was also beat to death.
07:02Good God.
07:04Well, I guess if you're two years old and your mother is murdered like that, it's going to mess you up.
07:11Absolutely.
07:12Wow.
07:13Tracy's son has not been convicted, but it's pretty tragic to appreciate how his father's abuse and the murder of his mother at such a young age may have contributed to his alleged criminal behavior.
07:27What else about Larry needs to go up here?
07:29I think how the day starts.
07:31You know, he shows up to her work.
07:32Yep.
07:33You know, it's her birthday.
07:34So he brings her flowers and he wants to take her out for her birthday.
07:38And she goes, no, he gets turned down publicly.
07:40And I think that really gets to him.
07:42So that night he's sitting there wondering, where is she?
07:44Where is she?
07:45Where is she?
07:46He's watching the kids.
07:47Tracy declined to go out with Larry that night, but he did agree to watch their son for her.
07:53At the time, Larry was sharing an apartment with his brother, Alan.
07:57And then later that night, at 1.36, Tracy calls over to where Alan and Larry are both staying.
08:04And Alan is his roommate at the time.
08:06Right.
08:07So in my mind, it's her calling saying, hey, I'm not coming tonight.
08:11I'm going to bed.
08:12She basically stands him up.
08:13Right.
08:14And she probably sounds like she's had something to drink.
08:16Right.
08:17Larry's initial report to law enforcement was that Tracy was supposed to come over to his house that night,
08:22before 10.30 or 11 o'clock p.m. to pick up their son.
08:25She doesn't call until 1.30 a.m.
08:27He can tell she's been drinking.
08:29And he tells her to stay home.
08:31My theory is that something about that call enraged him.
08:35But I'm going to try to keep an open mind.
08:37All right.
08:38So now we've got George Johnson II up here.
08:41Would she call him a boyfriend?
08:43How long did they date?
08:44I'd say weeks.
08:45Weeks?
08:46She broke up with him about a week before?
08:47Yes.
08:48We know they had sex the Saturday previous.
08:51Saturday.
08:52So like four days earlier?
08:53Yes.
08:54George worked over at the Bryce Corporation at that time.
08:57He was a slitter operator.
08:59His job as a slitter would be to slice potato chip bags in different wrappers for different candies.
09:04And had access to very many tools.
09:06Yeah.
09:07I care about that maybe more than y'all do because of all these injuries from some kind of odd, not your typical murder weapon.
09:15And he's the guy up here that's got the clearest possession of that kind of a weapon.
09:20George Johnson and Tracy broke up just days before her murder.
09:24When police went to question him, they noticed some suspicious scratches on his arms and a burn pile at his house.
09:32He claimed that he had been working on his property and burning debris.
09:36George is the suspect that I have the most questions about.
09:39I thought it was a little odd on this Thursday night, this 24-year-old man is going to a bookstore.
09:46Going to the bookstore.
09:47To get a book.
09:48How far is the book's a million from the Elks Lodge?
09:51Less than a mile.
09:52Yes.
09:53So his girlfriend that he had sex with four nights earlier is at the Elks Lodge partying.
09:57If he was so hot after her, there would have been phone calls back and forth.
10:01There's nothing.
10:02I think you're right, Sue.
10:03I just don't think he cared.
10:04I don't think he cared.
10:05But why did they have sex and then she breaks up with them?
10:09That's weird.
10:10There's your hemorrhoid right there.
10:12Larry Holloway.
10:13That guy is an .
10:14You got a couple of scratch marks here.
10:16You don't have any nicks on him.
10:18We have a violent ex-husband, a boyfriend that she had just recently broken up with, and
10:23a man who came to her house that very night whose story keeps changing.
10:28This was a blitz style of a hat.
10:29Okay, but there's a little bit of nicks on him.
10:32Those are not deep scratch marks.
10:33No, they're not.
10:34She's 30.
10:35She'd have been fighting like a wounded bear.
10:37God, I hope we can figure this out.
10:48She was a hardworking girl.
10:52She was very funny.
10:54She had a great personality.
10:57She just lit up the room.
10:59When you lose a child like that, there's nothing ever is going to take this hole out of my heart.
11:12Hello, Miss Dawn.
11:13I'm Kelly.
11:14Nice to meet you.
11:15Good to see you.
11:16You're welcome.
11:17Tracy was the light of my life.
11:20She was very independent, always, even when she was little.
11:23What kind of mom was Tracy?
11:25A real good mom.
11:26She was, of course, a busy mom, just like all young mothers.
11:29She worked all day, so she wanted to spend the time with him at night.
11:33She was my best friend.
11:36It's been devastating.
11:39It's like I've got a huge hole right here.
11:43She was just a joy.
11:45I want her back.
11:46That's what I want.
11:47Parents aren't supposed to bury their children.
11:50I just want justice for Tracy.
11:52There's somebody out there that is the killer.
11:55Did Tracy tell you anything about Larry coming by the shop that day, wanting to take her out that night?
12:00No.
12:01She kind of looked for George to come, because she had gone out with George on his birthday a few weeks prior.
12:08And she said she kind of thought he might call her, but he didn't.
12:11How long did they date?
12:13Like just a month, a couple weeks?
12:15A month, maybe.
12:16What did Tracy think about him?
12:18She liked him, but she wasn't, you know, she was just somebody to go out with.
12:22What did Tracy tell you about her and Larry right at the end?
12:26It was just always fighting, arguing.
12:29He was real jealous.
12:31If I can't be with you, nobody's going to be with you.
12:33She moved out to this other little house, and I didn't want her out on her own at all.
12:39He was constantly calling me every single day.
12:43Where's Tracy?
12:44What's Tracy doing?
12:45How far had Tracy gone as far as trying to file for a divorce?
12:49She did go to file for a divorce, and she couldn't do it.
12:54She started crying, and she backed off.
12:56Okay.
12:57She was trying to break it off with him and get away from him.
13:00Okay.
13:01Donna paints Larry as jealous, possessive, and still obsessed with Tracy.
13:06George, a harmless fling, but neither of them was the last person to see her alive and lie about it.
13:12That's Steve Webb.
13:14The hope is that the witness world for her back then in 1997 will solve this case.
13:20I'm praying for every step you make, and I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
13:26You know, I don't know what drives you, but thank the Lord for you.
13:29I'm down below, and my breath is giving out.
13:44We've been talking about how little this house is and how little this bedroom space is.
13:48I really hope we can get a good feel for what that means as far as swinging a weapon,
13:52and how defenseless she had to have been in that tight area.
13:55Tracy got herself trapped in that room.
13:58We don't actually have access to the house Tracy was murdered in,
14:01so we set up a mock crime scene.
14:03Well, we got it all built up inside.
14:05All right, let's go check it out.
14:06All right.
14:07What we want to take a look at are the risks the suspect faced getting into the house,
14:11how he got out, how the murder was likely carried out,
14:14and what we want to do is compare that to the suspects that are in Tracy's life.
14:18That's going to tell us a lot about this case.
14:20The very front of the house on this side, there's a small porch.
14:25The front door, Stephanie, we're going into the living room here.
14:29We make a right.
14:31This is the bedroom.
14:32This is Tracy's bedroom.
14:33So her bedroom is the front of the house?
14:35Absolutely.
14:36It's very, very tight, incredibly tight.
14:39Where is most of the blood spatter and blood bound?
14:42A lot of it's cast back this direction.
14:46It's on the ceiling as well.
14:47OK.
14:48I mean, it's violent.
14:49It's violent.
14:50And what position is Tracy's body found?
14:52She's on her back.
14:53She's on her back.
14:54Face up.
14:55Face up.
14:56Yeah, laying right here.
14:57Her hips are about here, and her head is facing this way.
15:00The scene shows us that Tracy was in her nightgown, and there was no forced entry.
15:04So she felt comfortable enough letting them in.
15:07That seems to point more towards her recent boyfriend, George, than it does her estranged
15:10husband, Larry, or Steve Webb, who she had just met earlier that night at a bar.
15:15OK.
15:16So she lets him in.
15:17And where is the first blow, you think?
15:18Back of the head.
15:21She goes down face first.
15:23So she goes down face first, and that's the first blood pull?
15:25That's true.
15:26So she goes down first like this.
15:27How many more hits come when she's like this?
15:29Oh, there's a couple of hits.
15:30Several hits.
15:31Yeah, there's several hits coming down on all sides.
15:34And then at some point.
15:35He flips her over.
15:36Flips her over.
15:37And is she still whopping?
15:38Oh, he's beating the bejesus out of her.
15:40This is the one that really ruptures the liver.
15:42But that one that comes across the face, that's the one that shatters the jaw.
15:48And it moves the jaw and the teeth come out.
15:50And then there's a couple, which, you know, again, I'm leaning down.
15:53And that's where the headboard is, because he does at one point come across.
15:57Oh.
15:58Hits the headboard.
15:59You can see the ding?
16:00The blunt weapon, whatever it was, did not appear to come from Tracy's house.
16:04Her killer arrived with it or retrieved it from their vehicle.
16:07Larry worked for the water department and could have possibly had tools in his truck.
16:11But so could Steve, who was driving his car hauler that night.
16:14And then there's George, whose work equipment included knives.
16:17And then show me how you're going to get a pocket knife out and slit my throat.
16:21How do we get those?
16:22We know there's blood on this comforter, right?
16:24Something got laid on this quilt at some point.
16:27Weapon, whatever.
16:28Let's say he lays it on the bed.
16:30Lays it on the bed.
16:31Lays it on the bed.
16:32Now you're cutting her throat twice.
16:34Now you're choking.
16:35Because we know she didn't die from her throat being cold.
16:38I think he cut her throat and it's not working like he thought.
16:42When you have three suspects, all of whom may have had a romantic interest in the victim.
16:48Any one of them could have felt rejected or gotten angry with her that night.
16:53But with the injuries and the explosive rage that happened when this murder was committed,
16:58you would expect to find a suspect that has some kind of prior violent criminal history.
17:03And in 28 years, the only suspect with that kind of history is Larry Holloway.
17:08I can't even think of a more painful way to die.
17:10You know she breathes her own blood.
17:12She's losing teeth.
17:13Her jaw's broken.
17:14Her face is being crushed in.
17:16And he's wailing away at her liver and her stomach too.
17:19And he strangles.
17:20And he cuts her throat.
17:21And she still survives the throat cutting.
17:24That's a long, miserable, painful death.
17:35Okay, so let's look at what we need still to do.
17:38We got to go talk to Steven Webb.
17:41Are you all wanting to talk to Steve?
17:42Are you wanting us to talk to Steve?
17:43Or how do you all want to do that?
17:45Uh, you go do Steve.
17:46And then Haley and I will hit the other four Searcy people and make our three phone calls.
17:50I'm still leaning towards my theory that Tracy's estranged husband, Larry, is the one who killed her.
17:55While Kelly thinks it's the recent boyfriend, George.
17:58But we also have a third suspect, Steve Webb.
18:00The individual who met her earlier that night actually went home with her and got caught lying about it.
18:07You ever get a confession on any of these cold cases?
18:10Rarely.
18:11Steve said Tracy wasn't his type and he did pass a polygraph.
18:14But he's not out of the woods yet.
18:15Steve, if you wouldn't care, would you sit in that passenger seat up there?
18:17Steve, if you wouldn't care, would you sit in that passenger seat up there?
18:22So I know you was at the Elks that night, right?
18:24And she came in, I guess, shooting pool or something like that?
18:27Yeah, she was shooting pool.
18:28She drank a little bit and shooting pool?
18:29Yes.
18:30And I took her home and she invited me in to have a drink.
18:34I did.
18:35I had a glass of tea.
18:36We just sat there and talked for a little bit and I got up and left.
18:38OK.
18:39And that's how much she told me she was having a terrible time with her ex-husband, her husband,
18:43the BX or whatever.
18:44Did you think you was going to get some or did she offer any of it?
18:47It wasn't that at all.
18:48It wasn't that kind of deal?
18:49No.
18:50No.
18:51No.
18:52You first kind of denied about being out there.
18:54What?
18:55I didn't because I thought he already had the person that did it.
18:58I didn't have no clue.
18:59Yeah.
19:00That's the way that happened.
19:01I was reaching the admission and I found out.
19:02I thought, well, we better do what's right.
19:04So I did exactly what's right.
19:05They looked at you, no injuries on your arms or anything like that?
19:08No.
19:09I didn't do this.
19:10I didn't have a reason to do this.
19:12So you didn't have any reason to kill her, did you?
19:14No.
19:15Steve said he initially lied to the police because he thought the police had actually
19:18already caught Tracy's killer.
19:20So his interactions with her were actually irrelevant.
19:22It's an odd excuse.
19:23We appreciate you.
19:26But Steve's truck was actually seen backing out of Tracy's driveway about 1230 AM.
19:31And we know that she called her husband about 1.30 AM, which would suggest to us that she
19:36was alive well after the time Steve left.
19:39He didn't do that.
19:40No.
19:41She was so fun and sweet.
19:45And I remember she would, like, practice on me, like doing nails and stuff like that.
19:52And she had this precious little boy.
19:55She really loved her little boy.
19:58She rented that little house.
20:00She was so thankful that she had a place to live.
20:03The biggest thing I remember is just her feeling this zest for life and just this confidence
20:08about where her career was going.
20:10Talking to Tracy's friends, you can feel how much they loved her and how much they still
20:16miss her.
20:17And this just makes us want to try even harder to solve her case.
20:21I remember her looking forward to turning 30 and telling us she was planning to go out.
20:26We were all shocked.
20:28From the start, Haley and I believed that George was the most viable suspect.
20:33He had scratches on his arms.
20:36He had a burn pile going on in his yard.
20:38He had an odd story about going to a bookstore that very night.
20:43And he had access to some unusual tools where he worked.
20:48Hello.
20:49Hey, this is Detective DiNapoli, the Searcy Police Department.
20:53Yes.
20:54I'm new to looking over the Holloway case.
20:57And I'm seeing here that you knew Tracy.
20:59I was wondering if I could ask you some questions.
21:02We can meet up, maybe.
21:03Um, sure.
21:05Can I meet with you here in just a few minutes?
21:08I can just meet you right over there.
21:09Thank you so much.
21:11Bye.
21:12And that was pretty damn cooperative.
21:14Yeah.
21:15That doesn't usually happen.
21:16I'm just saying.
21:17I'm hearing that.
21:18Haley played it very casual and cool getting George to come in.
21:23She might be really young, but she has a way of talking to people and listening where
21:28she could really be cut out to work on cases just like this.
21:32What do you remember about Tracy?
21:34How was y'all's relationship?
21:35I guess it was okay.
21:37There wasn't like any issues with it.
21:40Um, but I think we had kind of stopped seeing each other shortly before that.
21:44Would you say the relationship was serious or just kind of casual?
21:47No, it was pretty casual.
21:49I think there was a couple sexual encounters.
21:51It was her birthday the day before her death.
21:53Did you call her at all?
21:54Was she happy birthday or?
21:55Right there.
21:56I don't, no, I don't think so.
21:58I don't think I had had any contact with her for like at least a week.
22:03How come?
22:04She was still married if I remember right.
22:07It was the guilt.
22:09So the first you hear about this lady that you'd been seeing is brutally murdered.
22:14What do you think?
22:15I was, I was in shock.
22:17I mean, I couldn't believe it.
22:19And it was, it was terrifying.
22:21Because you were right in the middle of it.
22:22Yeah.
22:23You remember when they first approached you, you were out at your house in the backyard
22:27that day working in your barn?
22:28Yeah, I had that shop building.
22:30Yes, sir.
22:31And you had a fire going?
22:32Yeah, probably.
22:33Remember anything about the cops checking, digging through the fire?
22:37I remember one of them told me that they had dug through it.
22:40And, but I mean, I was all the time burning stuff out there.
22:43And there was tree limbs and there was a little house that was next door to me,
22:47that I was slowly trying to dismantle and I was burning stuff, so.
22:51When you came into the police department that following day,
22:53you did have some scratches on your arms.
22:56Where, where do you think that would have been from?
22:58Right from rushing tree limbs or whatever it was.
23:01So it was common for you to have?
23:03Oh, yeah.
23:04And I'm sure they asked you back then where you were the night before.
23:07Oh, yeah.
23:08And what'd you tell them?
23:09You remember?
23:10Probably just sitting at home.
23:12Remember anything about a book?
23:14Because there's a receipt in the file from Books A Million
23:17and going to Books A Million at 10 o'clock or so at night,
23:20would that have been unusual?
23:22That actually does sound a little unusual to be that late.
23:25And we asked that because the Books A Million is close to the Elks Lodge.
23:28Which is where Tracy spent her birthday that night.
23:32Did you ever go to the Elks Lodge with her?
23:34No.
23:35Never?
23:36Never been there.
23:37Here's the problem, George.
23:38Hayley and I are working on this case.
23:40But in the middle of all of it that makes it just messy is you.
23:44And you understand why.
23:45Yeah.
23:46And you still came down here today.
23:48Yeah.
23:49How come?
23:50I don't have anything to hide.
23:51If I can help you guys in any way determine who did do this to her and to her son, then
24:02yeah, I want to help.
24:03Okay.
24:04You all want to get to the truth?
24:05So do I.
24:06Well, I definitely don't think it's him at all.
24:09My spider sense is not tingling.
24:14We appreciate it.
24:15Thank you very much.
24:16Honestly.
24:17After talking to George Johnson, I admit I was wrong.
24:21But whoever committed this murder is a monster.
24:23He's more like a teddy bear.
24:25Did you all get to listen to that?
24:26We did.
24:27I told you I can admit when I'm wrong.
24:30I thought he was sincere.
24:31I think he's a good guy.
24:32I just think him and Tracy had this fling.
24:36Yeah.
24:37We need to focus back on Tracy's husband, Larry, and Larry's story about what happened
24:52that night.
24:53Right.
24:54Tracy calls Larry at 1.34.
24:56I think Larry is just fuming, was supposed to come over probably about 10 or 11.
25:01And I just think that he is fantasizing that she's at home with some guy having sex.
25:07And, you know, this was just pure rage.
25:10How did he get in the house?
25:11She let him in.
25:12We need to learn more about Tracy and Larry's relationship.
25:16Could his jealousy have led to her murder?
25:19Would she have opened the door for him?
25:22Tracy's girlfriends may know.
25:24Would you describe Larry's being jealous?
25:27Yes.
25:28He was just on her all the time.
25:31Just hovering over her.
25:34Because I think Larry didn't want to let go.
25:40She was terrified of her ex-husband.
25:43Larry?
25:44Yes.
25:45Because he was so jealous.
25:46Did he call up there constantly harassing her or anything?
25:49Yeah.
25:50Trying to see what she's doing?
25:51And he would sit out and watch.
25:53I've been a minister for many, many years.
25:56And Larry could just walk by me and I could just feel demons on him.
26:03They fought like crazy.
26:05Larry was real jealous of the fact that she was living apart from him.
26:11Seeing other men.
26:12Seeing other men.
26:13He would drive by all the time.
26:16So he definitely didn't want the divorce?
26:17He did not want the divorce.
26:19There was times that he would even cry.
26:21He had tears rolling down his face telling me I can't be without her.
26:25And that no other man was going to raise his son.
26:29These women clearly described Larry's jealous and obsessive behaviors.
26:33Sounds like he wasn't getting the message that Tracy was finally done with him.
26:37Do you think she was still being intimate with Larry at that time?
26:40At least twice because I was told by him and by her.
26:46They've been sleeping together a little bit.
26:47Yeah.
26:48Recently right before the murder?
26:49Yeah, not too long before.
26:51Okay.
26:52Which was another reason I felt like he was so obsessed.
26:55It sounds like Larry and Tracy's relationship was in its final messy stages.
27:00Which could account for Larry's emotional state and may have explained why she wouldn't have been afraid to open the door and let him into the house.
27:06After Tracy was killed, I worked with Larry's brother, Alan Holloway.
27:11Alan was talking about the day that Tracy was killed.
27:14He said that he was laying there in the bed, but he heard the phone ring and then Larry picked it up and was talking.
27:22He said that he heard Larry leave the apartment.
27:25You know, I looked at him and I said, what?
27:29And that's when he stopped talking.
27:30He went silent.
27:31She has a conversation with Alan, who was Larry's brother, a few years after the murder.
27:37And Alan blurts out, when I got home that night, I heard the phone ring and then I heard Larry leave.
27:42That's something Alan never told police.
27:44We need to talk to Alan.
27:45How are you feeling, Miss Henley?
27:46Good.
27:47I'm excited.
27:48Yeah?
27:49Yeah.
27:50You're excited.
27:51Are you feeling pressure, too, or just excited?
27:52Just excited.
27:53That's what comes of being so young.
27:54The hard part is that it's been so long and this is his blood brother.
28:15We've come home to Texas to talk to Alan Holloway, Larry Holloway's blood brother, and
28:21he was his roommate the night of the murder.
28:24He could be the make-or-break witness to this case because Alan has told the witness that
28:29that night, Larry left the house.
28:36Hi there.
28:37Hey, are you Alan?
28:38That's me, yeah.
28:39Hey, I'm Detective DiNapoli.
28:40Sorry.
28:41Where are we looking into the Tracy Holloway case?
28:44Glad.
28:45We were wondering if you'd be willing to...
28:47I'm just glad.
28:48I'm so glad.
28:49Yeah, anything I can do to help.
28:51Okay.
28:52It's always a relief to hear someone reworking a case.
28:56I'm just glad that it's not...
28:59Forgotten.
29:00Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
29:02First question is just, what do you remember from that night?
29:06Larry's room was on the front side of the apartment, and I was on the back side, and by the time that I got home at whatever time, 11-ish, everybody was going to sleep. But I don't remember the phone call.
29:21You don't remember the phone call. How did you know there was a phone call?
29:24The officers had mentioned that there was a call on the caller ID from Tracy to Larry there at the apartment. It was like 1.30-ish or something like that in the morning. That was the big conversation about the caller ID and the call that was made.
29:34Alan says he was asleep and did not hear the phone call or know about it until the next morning. But this contradicts what we have heard from a witness and was part of Alan's own initial statement.
29:49Alan, so in five, there's this. We both went to bed around 12. Tracy called at approximately 1.36 a.m.
30:09Yeah, and seeing that's the part, I don't even know why I would have put that in there.
30:16Was Alan confused back then? Is he confused now? Or is he covering for his brother?
30:22And you know what the suspicions are about this conversation with your brother?
30:26I can only imagine. There was opportunity for him to leave. He sees somebody that he didn't want to see or sees something that he didn't want to see. Something could have happened.
30:38The last person to talk to her when she was alive was this 1.36 phone call.
30:43Yeah.
30:44The last person to talk to her alive is your brother.
30:47That's right. That's right.
30:48And we know their relationship and it wasn't good.
30:51Ladies, I don't know.
30:54You want to believe witnesses are telling you the truth? He's very smooth. He's very articulate.
31:00But anyone who's been in law enforcement for a while understands that blood doesn't talk on blood. And when they do, it's very, very rare.
31:06Do you remember working with the Carol Moore?
31:09Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Tracy's cousin.
31:12Did you all ever talk about Tracy's death at all?
31:15No.
31:16So there wouldn't be any reason why she says that you had a conversation with her about Larry leaving that night?
31:20No, not at all.
31:21Okay.
31:22Not at all. I do not remember Larry leaving that night.
31:26After speaking with Alan, I thought that what he did was put a complete show on for us.
31:32Thank you, Alan. Appreciate it.
31:35Bye-bye.
31:36I did not feel that he was genuine.
31:38I felt like it was very rehearsed, maybe.
31:41It became kind of a little too much.
31:43Try to convince us too much.
31:45Over the top. Over the top.
31:54Good morning.
31:55Hey, guys.
31:56Big day, big day. What you thinking?
31:58I went by earlier this morning.
32:00Both cars were there over at Larry's house.
32:02So I want to go try while we know they're there.
32:05Can we follow and listen?
32:06Yeah.
32:07All right. Well, good luck.
32:08Come on. Let's go jump in.
32:09You want to drive or you want me to drive?
32:11I'll drive.
32:12We believe Larry was desperate to keep Tracy in his life.
32:15He's used violence and threats in the past.
32:17He's also the person who we believe was the last individual to talk to her.
32:21We need to talk to Larry, but will he talk to us?
32:25So I've been thinking about what we're going to talk about.
32:27Let's see what direction he goes in here.
32:30I don't think he's exactly a lover of law, unfortunately.
32:33No.
32:34Definitely not.
32:35Yeah.
32:40I can hardly imagine that for 27 years.
32:42There's two cops knocking on your door and all of a sudden it's right back in your face.
32:46Hello.
32:47How you doing?
32:48Good.
32:49Is Larry Holloway here?
32:50That's me.
32:51That's you, sir?
32:52We're looking into your late wife's homicide from back in 97.
32:54Uh-huh.
32:55And we just wanted to see if you had a minute to talk about it.
32:57Yeah.
32:58Let me get my shoes on.
32:59Okay.
33:00We'll be out in the car.
33:01All right.
33:02Whoa.
33:03He's coming out.
33:04Have a seat.
33:05We're just trying to go through the entire case file and get everybody's story and everything.
33:09So what can you tell us about 97?
33:11Right.
33:12What can you tell us about 97?
33:14I'm going to cut it short because I'm just going to be honest with you, man.
33:15I'm not going to go there.
33:16Okay.
33:17Yeah, without a lawyer.
33:18I got you.
33:19I've been told that it's going to get turned around on me if I keep running my mouth about
33:28it.
33:29Uh-huh.
33:30I was told this when it first started.
33:31Well, here's what I can tell you.
33:32I want to solve your wife's murder.
33:33I want you to.
33:34Hey, Mr. Hollywood.
33:35One of the things we were looking at is if she was having any sexual relations with anybody
33:40that you know of.
33:41I'm sure she was.
33:42I mean, we heard she might have tried to get back with you.
33:45Well, no.
33:46As far as us getting back together, I didn't see that happening.
33:49That's good.
33:50That's not what Donna says.
33:51Do you remember her calling you that night at about 1.30, 1.36 in the morning?
33:55Because she was supposed to pick up your son.
33:57Yeah, I can't remember if I called her or if she called me.
34:01But I do remember talking to her.
34:03You never left the house that night after she called?
34:06No.
34:07No, I was right there.
34:08So he's the last one to talk to her alive?
34:10Yeah.
34:11I know all this is on record that I'm talking about right here.
34:14No, I didn't kill my wife.
34:17He's not as dumb as I thought he was.
34:20Y'all be careful.
34:21Thank you, sir.
34:22He's very guarded.
34:24He knows what to say.
34:25Yeah.
34:26The only guy that has stonewalled this whole investigation since the beginning is Larry Holloway.
34:30He wouldn't even get in the car.
34:32And his first statement to us was, I'm going to keep this short.
34:34I'm not going to say anything.
34:35When you brought up the phone call, he locks himself in as the last person known to talk to Tracy.
34:42And he took away from what Donna told you when he said, I knew we weren't getting back together.
34:47Right.
34:48It was all friendly.
34:49Nobody expected Larry Holloway to confess.
34:53But there is enough circumstantial evidence here for us to present to the prosecutor's office.
34:58And it's time for us to do that and move this case forward.
35:01So when we started all this, we had three suspects on our board.
35:19Tracy's case was never going to be a case solved by forensic evidence.
35:24It's going to come down to all the little pieces of circumstantial evidence that we have uncovered.
35:29First, Mr. Steven Webb.
35:31He didn't do himself any favors.
35:33He didn't come out with the truth from the very beginning.
35:36I thought he had what he had the person who did.
35:38I didn't have no clue.
35:39I simply think he was at the wrong place.
35:42Also, those three witnesses that saw Steve Webb's truck out there that night, they saw him leave her house.
35:48Right.
35:49Right.
35:50There was a phone call inside that house made after Steve Webb left.
35:53Absolutely.
35:54So we know she was alive.
35:55And the other thing is with the overkill that we're talking about in this case...
35:58There's no motive.
35:59...worse the motive for that kind of kill on Steve Webb.
36:02This isn't somebody I just met in the club.
36:04This is years of something going on, right?
36:06Yes.
36:07What's everybody's vote on eliminating him once and for all?
36:10Eliminate.
36:11Eliminate.
36:12Steve?
36:13Eliminate him.
36:14The motive was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
36:17And he stupidly lied to the police about it.
36:20But there's a big difference between being stupid and being a killer.
36:23Okay.
36:24George Johnson II.
36:26The guy that I came into town thinking was looking like the best suspect I'd met.
36:31I think when you read the report, there were a lot of assumptions made.
36:35Like when they went out to his house, there was a fire burning.
36:38The fact that he worked with all kinds of knives and tools.
36:41The fact that they hadn't talked for a whole week by phone.
36:45Was he heartbroken over it or not?
36:47The fact that he came into town to pick up a book that's right by the Elks Lodge.
36:51I kind of zeroed on that one too.
36:53He had scratches on him.
36:54And then you called him up because you wanted to see with your own eyes what you thought about him.
36:58And what's the first thing he says when he walks in the room?
37:00I don't have anything to hide and I want to help.
37:03You all want to get to the truth? So do I.
37:06Every question that we asked him, he had an answer and a good answer for it.
37:09I feel like it's very truthful.
37:11The scratches on him are...
37:12They look like briars.
37:13They look like yard work to me, man.
37:15He needs to be eliminated.
37:16Okay. BJ, what do you think?
37:18Oh, definitely.
37:19I couldn't have been more wrong about George Johnson, and I admit it,
37:23because he had nothing to do with Tracy's murder.
37:26So now we're sitting here and we've got Larry Holloway up on the board.
37:28What's your strongest evidence that you would lead with?
37:30The time before the murder.
37:33They're going through this divorce.
37:35I think that he is surprised that Tracy is able to get out and she gets a house.
37:41She's picked up a guy.
37:42Tracy tells people she thinks she's being followed.
37:44He would drive by all the time.
37:46He's over at Carol's house saying, I can't live without her.
37:50Where's she at? Who's she with?
37:51He had tears rolling down his face telling me I can't be without her.
37:55And that no other man was going to raise his son.
37:59He brings in a plant and candy that morning to Tracy at the hair salon and says,
38:04Hey, it's your 30th. You want to go out tonight?
38:06And she says, No, not with you.
38:07She's told people it's over.
38:09You think of what he's thinking here.
38:11He's just a raging bullet this time.
38:13Let the jury see the pictures of this woman's face.
38:15This is like destruction.
38:17Pain.
38:18It is your worst enemy that you would do something like that to.
38:21This wasn't George and this wasn't Steve.
38:23Larry's your guy right here.
38:25Larry's history of violence, his obsession with Tracy, that phone call between them,
38:32and the brutality of her injuries suggest that he killed her in a fit of jealous rage.
38:38So what's your request of your prosecutor, BJ?
38:40I'm going to ask my prosecutor.
38:42She proceed with charges against Larry Hallway for murder in the first degree.
38:46How are you feeling about it, Amy?
38:48Maybe I'm optimistic, but I'm ready and I'm excited.
38:50And hopefully we can get something followed.
38:52How are you feeling about telling Donna the good news, BJ?
39:09I'm glad I'm going to get to tell her mama she deserves this.
39:15What do you want to say to Donna, Haley?
39:18I'm sorry it took so long.
39:25I think she's going to be so happy to hear this news today.
39:32She's going to be okay.
39:37To talk to Donna today, there's so many emotions there.
39:40Donna's hurting.
39:41Donna's been hurting for 28 years.
39:43And she deserves justice.
39:48Working with Kelly has been absolutely amazing.
39:52Good morning, Miss Donna.
39:54She has a passionate way to show you that what you do, it's not just a job.
39:59It's a calling, and these families can't get justice without you.
40:03Well, we're sorry to keep you waiting, but we've got the best news you've probably heard in 28 years.
40:08We talked to our prosecutor yesterday, and we are sending a case file over to her for the arrest of Larry Holloway for a capital murder.
40:23There's a lot to put together, so it's going to take some time because it's complex.
40:28But, I mean, she's positive about it.
40:31She liked the case.
40:32She liked it.
40:33Oh, my God.
40:37We got to talk to a lot of Tracy's friends, and every person I talked to was happy that you allowed this to happen and that we were able to do this for you.
40:47Tracy's friends, Tracy's workers at the salon.
40:53Yeah.
40:54All of them.
40:55It has had my life tore up for a long, long time.
40:59I'm just ecstatic.
41:01I'm so thankful you guys came forward and just saved the day.
41:08I'm sorry it took so long.
41:10I mean, it's not your fault, but thank God for you guys.
41:13How do you do this?
41:14How do you just keep...
41:17Well, it helps when it ends like this.
41:19And you have a prosecutor here who's doing her job and excited to do this job, and I wish that happened everywhere.
41:25You also...BJ's been on your side for a while.
41:28Yes.
41:29And now you got Haley on your side forever, okay?
41:32Oh, my goodness.
41:33Tracy, what do you want me to do now?
41:35I think she would say, keep living your life, Mama.
41:38I know she would.
41:39I know she would.
41:40To be able to tell Tracy's mom good news that the case is finally moving forward is a wonderful feeling.
41:48It's wonderful meeting you.
41:50Also, it's pretty nice to know that we're walking away leaving future cold case investigations in even better hands with BJ and with Haley,
41:59and knowing that they're going to be excited to get justice for maybe even more victims out there.
42:04Thank you for everything this week, seriously.
42:07I feel like you're my kid.
42:09No.
42:10No.
42:11I got to see you start your career, and you're going to be a great cop, all right?
42:18Thank y'all for believing in me.
42:20I needed that.
42:21Thank you seriously.
42:23Absolutely.
42:24Thank you, baby.
42:25Thanks, Luke.
42:26I'm sorry.
42:27Thanks, Luke.
42:28I hope you're coming right after I leave a trip to my home.
42:29Thanks.
42:30Thanks, Luke.
42:32Thanks, Luke.
42:33Thanks, Luke.
42:34Thanks, Luke.
42:35Thanks.
42:36Thanks, Luke.
42:37Bye.
42:40Bye.
42:41Bye.
42:42Bye.
42:43Bye.
42:44Bye.
42:47Bye.
42:48Bye.
42:49Bye.
42:50Bye.
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