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02:40her back for anyone.
02:42And she loves adventure.
02:44Whenever we went out to Spain
02:46to visit her, she wanted to go to clubs
02:48and dance. She acts like a
02:5020-year-old. We're like
02:52besties.
02:54Carol's very smart. She's very
02:56well-educated. She started in the
02:58tech industry. Before this,
03:00she was doing very well. Very
03:02successful. She's made really good
03:04investments. You sent us a message
03:06about her potentially being
03:08scammed. Like, how did we get here?
03:10Well, Carol
03:12and her husband moved to
03:14Spain maybe like
03:1610 years ago.
03:18But in 2020, he passed away
03:20and she decided to stay.
03:22A few years after that,
03:24in June of 2023,
03:26we were out there visiting her
03:28and we were just trying to do fun
03:30things with her. And she kept saying
03:32that she wanted us to meet this guy that
03:34she had been dating for a little bit, that
03:36she met on some dating apps.
03:38And
03:40she was telling me
03:42that he was convincing her
03:44to do this gold deal and that she was really
03:46excited about it and she was going to
03:48make all sorts of money.
03:50What does she mean by gold
03:52deal? What does that mean?
03:54She's working with the people selling
03:56the gold and helping
03:58them meet with buyers. I guess the gold
04:00was coming from like some
04:02place in Africa and
04:04he just needed someone to help
04:06fund the deal. She was expecting
04:08to recoup all her money
04:10and then make like a few million.
04:12Have she
04:14ever done any work as a broker?
04:16Is this something
04:18that is all new?
04:20All new. She said
04:22he had the connections, he'd done it before.
04:24It'd been successful and
04:26he just needed someone to help fund this next one.
04:28What Caitlin is
04:30describing may be a typical gold
04:32investment scam. Now, traditionally
04:34it plays on the allure of
04:36gold and the riches that come with it.
04:38The scammer promises the victim
04:40a giant profit margin if they can
04:42fund the costs of closing the deal.
04:44And it becomes a never ending cycle.
04:46There's usually no gold,
04:48no real investment opportunity,
04:50and the victim is bled dry of all of their
04:52funds. What makes this case
04:54possibly more sinister?
04:56Two years after her husband passed
04:58away, Carol met and then
05:00entered into a loving
05:02relationship with the supposed
05:04scammer, Shireen Awad.
05:06This isn't an online
05:08catfishing scam. This is an
05:10intimate, physical relationship
05:12that's gone on for years.
05:14If Caitlin's suspicions are accurate,
05:16this is a long play.
05:18And the case, unlike any other
05:20we have seen.
05:22She's always, you know, been with someone
05:24on her whole life. So I think he
05:26took advantage of that.
05:28How much money has she lost?
05:30Well, from what my mom said
05:32after looking at her bank statements,
05:34she felt like it was close to me
05:36about five million dollars.
05:38Five million dollars.
05:40is a massive loss.
05:42So for Carol, a retired tech engineer,
05:44to be bamboozled out of that much money,
05:46it really points to this scammer
05:48or scam group being very detailed
05:50and professional.
05:52When you met him in person.
05:54Can you describe him?
05:56What kind of person he is?
05:58You know, didn't get the best impression of him.
06:00He didn't want to talk to us.
06:02He was rude to Carol.
06:04He was making her clean up the room
06:06and do all these things.
06:08You know, didn't get the best impression of him.
06:10He didn't want to talk to us.
06:12He was rude to Carol.
06:14He was making her clean up the room
06:16and do all these different things for him.
06:20And he kind of sat on her couch forever
06:22playing on his, like, little tablet.
06:24Like a child.
06:25Yeah.
06:26He just thinks he knows better than everyone.
06:28And he's really controlling.
06:30It would just get on to, like, these random rants
06:32about, like, the U.S. and government policies
06:36and, you know, religion.
06:38You know, you know, you know,
06:39the U.S. and government policies
06:41and, you know, religion.
06:43Yeah.
06:44It was just weird.
06:46Caitlin clearly isn't fond of Carol's boyfriend.
06:49She doesn't like his attitude
06:51or how he treats her aunt.
06:52But that's not really a reason
06:54to consider him the scammer just yet.
06:56It sounds like you had some red flag
06:58or, like, bad vibe from the beginning, right?
07:00Yeah.
07:01Yeah, I really had some big red flags.
07:04She kept saying,
07:05oh, I'm, like, closing this deal.
07:07And then it was like, oh, there's a delay.
07:09And there's a delay and a delay and a delay.
07:12So I'm like, okay, what's really going on?
07:15It took Caitlin six months to get Carol
07:18to reveal she had funded Shireen
07:20and his partners millions of dollars
07:22and hadn't received anything back.
07:24The last amount was for over $120,000
07:27for a business trip from Africa to Dubai.
07:30How is Carol taking all this?
07:32She's overwhelmed and stressed about her money,
07:35gotten to a point where she's pretty much depleted, you know?
07:40Do you know how she feels about Shireen?
07:42Does she think he could be scamming her?
07:44So she is 80% certain that he is a victim as well
07:50and that, you know, he's just being scammed along with her.
07:55This is crazy.
07:56Wow.
07:57This is so crazy.
07:58Whether her boyfriend is a scammer or not,
08:01as long as Carol's in Spain,
08:02this case will be very difficult for us to sort out.
08:05We know she doesn't have kids
08:07and we know the only family she's in contact with
08:09is her niece, Caitlin, her sister, Emily,
08:12and her brother-in-law, Colin.
08:14So we're going to need her to cooperate
08:15so we can understand fully what's happening.
08:18We need to get Carol face to face,
08:19but you're the only one that's going to be able to make that happen.
08:21What are the chances we could convince her
08:24to come back home to Colorado?
08:27It's going to take some convincing.
08:29It has been a long time since she's been back.
08:32I think it can be done.
08:34Amazing.
08:35Caitlin, thank you again so much for reaching out.
08:37We're going to do everything we can.
08:38Let's just stick together.
08:39Trust the process.
08:40Thank you, guys.
08:41Thank you.
08:42Bye-bye.
08:44To lose your husband and then on top of that,
08:47millions of dollars is just an awful thing.
08:50And if Caitlin is right,
08:52her aunt's relationship with Shireen
08:54might not be healthy for her.
08:56Overall, our mission is to protect Carol.
08:59To do that, we need to get her away
09:00from her alleged scammer boyfriend
09:02by having her meet us and Caitlin in Colorado.
09:05Then once we can determine she's safe,
09:07we can start finding out the truth behind this scam,
09:10determine if Shireen is in fact the scammer
09:12and take him down.
09:13We just need to get Carol on board with the plan.
09:24For weeks, we attempted to get in touch with Carol,
09:26but she consistently refused to speak with us,
09:28siding with her boyfriend.
09:30Then out of the blue,
09:31she agreed to call us from her house in Spain.
09:34Okay.
09:35There we are.
09:36There we go.
09:37Hey.
09:38Hey.
09:39How are you?
09:40I'm with my cat.
09:41What's your kitty's name?
09:42Oh, Princessa.
09:43Absolutely gorgeous.
09:44I loved it.
09:45She's my therapist.
09:46So cute.
09:47Would you be willing to tell us from your words
09:48what's been going on?
09:49Yeah.
09:50Yes.
09:51Yes.
09:52Yes.
09:53It started a little over two years ago.
09:55My boyfriend found some sellers in Uganda that had gold and it was a jeweler.
10:10Okay.
10:11They were from Dubai and I was the middle man.
10:15At least that's what I was being told.
10:17Okay.
10:18So everything came from your partner.
10:19And how did he get involved?
10:20Oh, he was in gold dealings before.
10:23He finds the buyers and sellers.
10:26Okay.
10:27So this is what we're gathering.
10:28Shireen brings her into his gold dealings,
10:30which he appears to be the broker of,
10:32with contacts in Uganda and Dubai.
10:35And Carol, branded as the middle man,
10:37assists him with the research of potential buyers and with funding.
10:41It sounds like he got Carol involved to help him.
10:44Or at least that is what he led her to believe.
10:47And how did you guys originally meet?
10:49Well, Carol, I know you were pretty adamant about not talking to us for a long time.
11:10What has changed to get you to this point?
11:12I was stupid enough going into partnership with Shireen because it sounded so lucrative.
11:17I wasn't aware that I would be fronting money for everything.
11:21I spent over $5 million and I've never gotten anything back.
11:25I don't trust him at all.
11:27Whether this is a scam or not, it's clear Carol is in a terrible relationship with Shireen.
11:33This is extremely complex.
11:35So in order to determine if he really is a fraudster, we need to understand the timeline of how Carol got involved in this gold deal.
11:43To do that, we need her to come to the United States to meet with us.
11:47Carol, you're family.
11:49You're real family.
11:50Not Shireen.
11:51They want you.
11:52They need you.
11:53And they're waiting for you.
11:54Please come to the United States like immediately.
11:59Carol, are you in a position where we can get that on the books?
12:03Definitely.
12:04I'm totally done with him.
12:06That's great progress.
12:08Carol agreed to come to the U.S. to meet us.
12:11But to find out if this is truly a scam and get her some justice, we need to find a way to insert ourselves into this supposed gold deal.
12:19So you told us you were done with him.
12:21Does he know that?
12:23No, he doesn't know anything.
12:25We would love to find a way to engage with Shireen directly.
12:31That's part of, you know, scam baiting is basically baiting the scammer into thinking we're also going to be some form of a victim.
12:37Oh, that's a great idea.
12:38Yeah.
12:39So think about how you can believably introduce me or Art as either a son or a cousin or something that would make sense that we could communicate on your behalf.
12:48You know, somebody from family.
12:50Oh, you guys can be my nephews.
12:53Perfect.
12:54What is your nephew's name?
12:55Eric.
12:56Perfect.
12:57I'll be Eric from Colorado.
12:58But think of over the next couple of weeks ways that you can work that into the conversation.
13:01And you can blame me as Eric.
13:03Be like, Eric has frozen my funds.
13:06You have to go through Eric to do anything.
13:08And that will kind of force Shireen to talk to me.
13:10And that way we can manipulate him into doing what we want him to do.
13:14Does that make sense?
13:15Hmm.
13:16Yeah.
13:17That sounds creative.
13:18I'm a good actress too.
13:20All right.
13:21Perfect.
13:22Beautiful.
13:23Emotional manipulation has happened here.
13:25And so I'm glad to hear that you're 100% ready.
13:27Definitely.
13:28Me and Art and Caitlin, we can do this together, but we need to get you here.
13:32So bring as much evidence as you can.
13:34And we want to get the ball rolling and actually make something happen here.
13:37Next step is flying Carol to Denver.
13:40But before we meet with her, we want to connect with Caitlin in person to prepare.
13:52Never been here.
13:54It's big.
13:55Do you guys know how it's called the Mile High City?
13:58Is that an elevation thing or a state of mind thing?
14:09Oh!
14:10Hi!
14:11Caitlin, you made it!
14:12Hi, it's so nice to meet you.
14:13Thank you for coming.
14:14Yeah, thank you.
14:15Good seeing you.
14:16So, Carol has arrived.
14:19She got in last night, yes.
14:20How's she doing?
14:21Today, she really perked up.
14:23She's doing good.
14:24Seems like herself.
14:25Good.
14:26All right, Caitlin.
14:27We're hoping you can help us streamline your aunt's story for us.
14:30I mean, how long after the passing of her husband did she even meet Shireen?
14:33To be honest with you, like, maybe six months.
14:36Do you think Shireen took advantage of her while she was so vulnerable?
14:41Absolutely.
14:42Absolutely.
14:43He absolutely took advantage of her and has taken advantage of her.
14:46She's a grieving widow.
14:48Knowing just six months separates her husband's death and her new relationship with Shireen
14:53tells me a few things.
14:55Clearly, Carol felt alone after the passing of her husband
14:58and possibly fell into her new relationship too quickly.
15:01She also may have been blind to some of the red flags others saw.
15:04And secondly, it provides some basis for the sort of person he is.
15:08After connecting with her on Tinder, if he became aware that she was a grieving widow
15:12with money, he could have spotted her as a target for the scam,
15:15knowing she would be easier to manipulate in her weakened state.
15:19I know we talked about the prospect of maybe introducing me as a nephew.
15:22Oh, yeah.
15:23Has there been any development on that?
15:24So, she tried and she actually was having fun with it
15:29and basically was saying she took out a loan from you, her nephew, Eric.
15:33And that Shireen needed to talk to you, Eric, for her to get more funds from you, essentially.
15:41He just, like, rejected the whole idea and was like,
15:44no, I'm not going to have any part in someone that's a loan shark.
15:47A loan shark nephew? Are you serious?
15:50Carol's boyfriend is clearly suspicious.
15:53But if he won't talk to us, we cannot scam bait him.
15:56Does Carol have any hope remaining that this whole gold thing is still real?
16:02I think she does just because she was saying that she was going to sign over power of attorney to Adam,
16:10which is Shireen's nephew, so that she could have him receive the funds for her, basically, for this gold deal,
16:19because she didn't want to travel out to Dubai anymore.
16:22Oh, my God. All right.
16:25This is not good. Carol told us she was done with Shireen.
16:29Now she's signing power of attorney over to his nephew?
16:33If Carol does that, Adam would have full control over her assets,
16:37meaning if Shireen wanted more funds, all he would need to do is go to his nephew to get them released.
16:42I was asking her how long it had been since she'd seen him, and she said he dropped her off at the airport.
16:48What? Are you serious?
16:50I know. Yeah.
16:51This relationship is... it's crazy.
16:56This guy clearly still has his hooks in Carol.
16:59And if we're going to have any shot at helping, we need her to see that for herself.
17:04To do that, we need evidence to prove to her that Shireen is scamming her.
17:08I went ahead and just printed off everything for you guys.
17:11We've got it all here.
17:12Oh, that's perfect.
17:13All the receipts of everything that's happened.
17:16Transactions, you know, documentation and screenshots of conversations she's had with these people.
17:22Did Carol supply this willingly?
17:24We have our work cut out for us.
17:26Thank you for trusting us. Let us regroup.
17:28Yeah, okay.
17:33I'm extremely concerned about Carol's position with all of this.
17:38Let's take a quick pass through the documents.
17:40Let's put a plan together for meeting with Carol later today.
17:43Yeah.
17:44And then we got our research work cut out for us.
17:46Big time.
17:52We have a lot to go through.
17:54Yeah, you're telling me.
17:57Okay, first, let's start with mapping out everywhere that she's been and when.
18:01We know a lot of Dubai trips happened.
18:03Let's try to figure out when that was.
18:07July 27, 2023.
18:09Okay.
18:10Then we have September 11.
18:12Then we have October 19, 2023.
18:15Every few weeks.
18:16What?
18:17She was flying with Shireen.
18:18Business class.
18:19Of course.
18:20$7,000.
18:21Jeez.
18:22Look at this.
18:23Wine.
18:24$275.
18:25Liquor.
18:26$323.
18:27And it's billed to Carol.
18:29She's paying for all his room service.
18:31Room service.
18:32I have one May 3.
18:36She went to Uganda.
18:38Africa.
18:39So she went there first.
18:40Yes.
18:41In 2023?
18:42We knew from our talk with her earlier that the supposed seller was in Uganda and the supposed buyer was in Dubai.
18:49But we didn't know she was actually traveling there.
18:53Caitlin sent us some videos Carol took in Africa.
18:56Oh.
18:57Okay.
18:58Check this out.
18:59Minerals.
19:00Gold.
19:01Type.
19:02Bars.
19:03Weight.
19:04550 kilograms.
19:05Purity.
19:0696% value.
19:07$28 million.
19:08The importer is listed as a Halese .
19:11Oh.
19:12Oh.
19:13Oh.
19:14Oh.
19:15Oh.
19:16Oh.
19:17Oh.
19:18Oh.
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19:47Oh.
19:48Oh.
19:49Oh.
19:50Oh.
19:51Oh.
19:52Oh.
19:53of money coming out from your checking account so the gold is real now we need to assess if any
20:00part of the deal that Shereen had her front the costs for is also real if we can't scam bait
20:06this guy then we need to investigate the other players in this scam to do that we need to call
20:11in a specialist so we're just about to do a raid on an office which we believe is a call center
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20:20Bu gerçekten çok yardımcı olmalı.
20:22Ben, Ken Gamble'e çok teşekkürler.
20:24Ben soruyordu?
20:26Evet.
20:27Ben, İVW Global'e çok çalışıyorum.
20:28Evet.
20:29Ben, İVW Global'e,
20:32ABD'nin oğullanınca birçok kirliliği şirketleri
20:35ürününününün mülteşini ağlaması.
20:38Ben, Avud'un çok uygulamayacağını izledim.
20:41Evet.
20:43Ben, İVW Global'u da gösteriyor.
20:45Bir sonraki videoyu izledim.
20:47Şirene'in birçok
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25:25abone olabiliyor.
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25:45Det var?
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26:23Oh, he's definitely not my husband but he tells me that we're husband and wife.
26:30One time he wanted me to repeat after him and he was saying things.
26:35And I just repeated it and he said, we're married.
26:38But you guys did this in church?
26:41No, no. No witnesses, nothing.
26:43You guys never got married?
26:44No.
26:46There's not a question, not a doubt in my mind
26:49that he has had the various intentions to hurt you and to take you for everything that you're worth.
26:53But what we're really concerned with is the fact that everyone that loves you is here.
27:03So then, would you stay?
27:08I'm seriously thinking of coming back here. I really am.
27:14Why is it even on the table for you to go back to Spain?
27:19I don't know. I love Spain too.
27:22I'm terrified for you in a lot of ways because it sounds like he still has his grips.
27:27But he's introduced enough side players here to keep you still believing that some of this is legitimate.
27:33I think you should stay. I don't think you're safe out there.
27:36Over here we can help you and help rationalize with you and make sure...
27:40I have to have closure though.
27:42It sounds like there's no convincing you.
27:52This is your niece who misses you so much.
27:55Mm-hmm.
27:57I give you my word I need to come back. Yeah.
28:03Unbelievable.
28:04First and foremost, we need to turn over the digital evidence we've gathered from Carol to Ken and start building out a case for investment fraud to help her get even.
28:14Then we can focus on getting her out of this dangerous situation and back to the United States with her family.
28:18There's so much to unpack here.
28:26Insane.
28:28She absolutely should not go back to Spain.
28:33She's a special case and she needs a special taking care of.
28:38Hopefully we've gotten through to her, but in the meantime, we need to call Ken.
28:42Yeah, next step.
28:50Ken, good to see you again.
28:51You too, guys.
28:53What were you able to gather from looking at everything we sent you?
28:55When I examined all of the information, I can see that this is just a classic scam.
29:01We can see a clear motive right in the beginning of this discussion that Shireen was after money.
29:06The evidence clearly shows that he was the orchestrator of the deal, that he was the introducer of the parties in the deal.
29:15That's not my opinion.
29:17That's my assessment based on all the evidence because the evidence tells the story.
29:23Carol supplied a bunch of signed documents and shipping forms and there's a lot of visible things with this scam.
29:30What is your opinion on all that?
29:33Normally there's a lot of legitimate paperwork that has to be generated in order to make these shipments happen in real life.
29:39We were able to establish that they were nonexistent, that the consignee numbers, the document numbers were fake.
29:47The stamps were fake.
29:49Completely a forgery.
29:51So the lawyer that received the money is now under investigation and has been charged with money laundering and forgery.
29:57That's the law firm that the money went to.
30:00And this was relating to a deal in Bulgaria.
30:03So this guy is already dirty.
30:06Ken, are those passports that we get pictures from Carol, are they real?
30:12One's a Syrian passport, one's a British passport.
30:15There's a bit of an issue with these passports.
30:17Both passports have got the same passport number.
30:21Wow.
30:23So at least one is fake, but I would suspect that both passports are forgeries.
30:28Wow.
30:30And I have no doubt in my mind that we have a strong case against Shireen and the other parties that were all co-conspirators in this large-scale international fraud.
30:41So what will be the next step to pursue justice for Carol?
30:45So what we need to do is prepare what's called a brief of evidence so that we can file that evidence in Spain and UAE so we can prove to a court that these documents are fake.
30:55And that means we have to get an affidavit from Carol.
30:58We have to go to the agencies involved and we have to get a statement from them to say that these are forgeries.
31:03Ken, thank you so much for your time, for your effort.
31:07My pleasure. And I'm here. Whatever you need, just reach out.
31:11OK, so here are the facts.
31:13Shireen introduced Carol to the players in the gold deal.
31:17The legal documents they produced are forged.
31:20Shireen has at least one fake passport.
31:23And Stephen Indetta, the lawyer Carol lost millions to, is currently being indicted for another scam case where he allegedly stole over 65 million dollars.
31:34Law enforcement isn't even involved yet, but it's safe to say it doesn't look good for Shireen.
31:39It's imperative that we get Carol away from this guy.
31:42Hi guys.
31:50Hey, how you doing?
31:51Thank you guys for taking the time, getting together.
31:54I know this has been one of the craziest stories ever.
31:57Where do things stand now with Carol and Shireen?
32:00Um, it just seems like she's going back to where she was before, like she's, you know, back in his clutches again, so to speak.
32:08But she made a promise to you, Caitlin, that she was going to come right back and that didn't happen.
32:12No.
32:14When she's there, I feel she's under his influence pretty heavily.
32:17Something has to be done.
32:19Ideally, it would be great to get her, you know, out of there.
32:22Would you see yourself, like, maybe possibility fly all of us together, like five of us, we'll go to Spain and just do whatever it takes to bring her back to the United States?
32:34That would be amazing.
32:35That would be great, yeah.
32:36Yeah, I think that's a good answer.
32:38We really got to kind of a, I mean, at least from our eyes, approach this with kind of an ultimatum.
32:44If she is still in his grips, it's not going to make any difference.
32:47Right.
32:48All right, we'll make it happen. No matter what, we'll make it happen.
32:51Let's see this through to the end, okay?
32:52All right.
32:53Thank you.
32:54Thank you.
32:55Next stop, Spain.
32:56All right.
32:57Wow.
32:58Welcome to Spain.
32:59Like, now that we're coming on her territory with her family, this is the last chance she got.
33:13As far as helping her with the scam, we're out.
33:17Like, if she doesn't come home, there's nothing else we can do.
33:19Right now, we know that Ken Gamble has assessed that this is a huge investment fraud scam where Carol's lost millions.
33:26And Shireen is the kingpin.
33:28If we can't get Carol to leave Spain with her family, we can't go forward with anything.
33:33It's an issue of safety.
33:35If she stays in Spain and we continue our investigation, we don't know what will happen to Carol when Shireen finds out.
33:44The family is here.
33:46We are here.
33:47We'll see what happens.
33:49I really do want the opportunity to talk to this guy.
33:54We will.
33:55We're going to confront him and she's coming with us.
34:00This is it.
34:03Step one is talking to Carol and her family without Shireen at the house.
34:08There she is.
34:09Yep.
34:10If we can get her to agree to leave with her family, Art and I can confront this guy.
34:23But that only happens if this intervention to get Carol away from Spain works.
34:28We have a couple things to talk to you about.
34:31Caitlin, maybe from you would be a great place to start since you're the one that reached out originally about this.
34:35We have major concerns with your safety, you staying here.
34:40And we've all come together to try to convince you and guide you to come back with us.
34:48You have to leave.
34:50You're getting on a plane with us tomorrow and you're coming back to the U.S.
34:55Carol, as you know, we're here to help you.
34:59There are a lot of things that we're learning, discovering.
35:03What have you discovered?
35:05We hire a private investigator out of Australia.
35:09We have connections in police.
35:11There are a lot of, it's a lot of people involved in this scam slash skin that's been happening with you.
35:16We cannot proceed while you're here.
35:20Carol, I love you.
35:23If you don't allow us to help you, you're in danger.
35:29Bottom line.
35:30The next steps of the investigation, people are going to become really aware that they're being investigated.
35:36Shreem and all his associates, they're going to look at you as a liability.
35:40And if you were to stay here for that reason alone, our work on this case stops today.
35:45I know.
35:47They're here to take you out of here.
35:50And you need to go with them.
35:53Okay.
35:54Alright?
35:55Yeah.
35:56There is a timeline.
35:58We have to move quick and work quick.
36:00We want to take you and have Shreem come here when you're not here and they can talk to him.
36:07So he's going to know that we're working together, right?
36:10He's going to know no matter what.
36:11If this conversation happens now or he sees it on TV, he's going to know, Carol.
36:16You have to put your faith and trust in us.
36:19We've never done anything to ever hurt you or betray you.
36:22Oh, I know.
36:23I know.
36:24We've only loved you and cared about you and looked after you.
36:27I'm going to make sure you're safe and we're going to have a conversation with Shreem.
36:34We need to get your most important things and your cats and you out of here.
36:39Yeah.
36:40It's a yes, right?
36:42Yes.
36:43Good.
36:44That's it.
36:45I know.
36:46Give her a hug.
36:47Yes.
36:48That's amazing.
36:51Carol has agreed to leave Spain.
36:54She's finally safe from Shreem and the group of scammers who took her money.
36:58We have flights for her and her family to depart first thing in the morning.
37:02I love you.
37:03I know it's hard.
37:04It's going to be okay.
37:05Make sure you get taken care of.
37:08The plan?
37:09Carol will grab her essential belongings and get escorted away from her property with her
37:14cat by her brother-in-law, Colin.
37:17Caitlin, armed with Carol's phone, is combating Shreem, inviting him over to the house to confront
37:24him.
37:39Oh my gosh.
37:41Shreem just messaged.
37:43What'd he say?
37:44He wants to come in 10 minutes.
37:47I can tell Caitlin is nervous to confront this guy.
37:50I mean, he's manipulated, scammed and taken so much from Carol.
37:54Tensions are high.
37:55We still have our investigator compiling our case to get convictions.
37:58But for now, this is a way for them to get even.
38:01Do you have to buzz him?
38:03Uh, we unlocked it.
38:05It's popped open.
38:06So he can just walk right in.
38:07Yeah.
38:08My heart rate is skinned.
38:10So this is what I'll do.
38:12I'll greet him and ask him to come in.
38:15Here he is.
38:20Ah, shit.
38:23What is this?
38:25Hi, Shreem.
38:26Hi.
38:27Hey.
38:28Carol's upstairs.
38:29I think she's trying to catch a cat or something.
38:31Would you like to come in?
38:33Yeah, Carol, she's dressing up.
38:35Hey, how's it going?
38:36Hey.
38:37You Shreem?
38:38Yeah, hi, I'm Ashton.
38:39Hi, Ashton.
38:40Hi, nice to meet you.
38:41My name is Art.
38:42Pleasure.
38:43We heard a lot of good things about you.
38:44Well, not so much.
38:45Exactly.
38:46Not so much.
38:47Yeah, not so much.
38:48Sorry, I need to know who I'm talking to.
38:49My name is Ashton.
38:50This is Art.
38:51What does Ashton mean?
38:52Yeah, well, I'm getting to there.
38:53My name is Ashton.
38:54This is Art.
38:55We work for a company called Trilogy Media.
38:56We do investigations back in the United States and worldwide on scammers.
38:59Okay.
39:00So we're here.
39:01I do, personally.
39:02But we're going to figure that out.
39:04Get out of my face.
39:05I'm not in your face.
39:06Okay.
39:07Well, nobody's insulting you.
39:08No, the scammer is an insult.
39:09No, no, no.
39:10I said, I said, would we look in it?
39:12Can I explain to you what we're doing here and why we're here before you get defensive?
39:17I said, I think you are, but we're going to figure that out later.
39:21We want to get your side of the story.
39:23We investigate scams.
39:24So we're here to get your side of the story.
39:26It seems to us that you have been taking advantage of this woman.
39:30Carol has been investing a lot of money in gold recently in a couple of years, right?
39:33Yes.
39:34With your help.
39:35Yes.
39:36So we just want to get your story because she lost a lot of money.
39:40No, she hasn't.
39:41Yeah, she did.
39:42Okay.
39:43Well, she hasn't.
39:44You know what you say?
39:45It's lost.
39:46It means it's not coming back.
39:47When is it coming back?
39:48When is it coming back?
39:49It was supposed to be back a long time ago.
39:51Yes, it was.
39:52Yeah.
39:53She's received nothing back.
39:54I know that she's lost a lot and we don't know where it is.
39:57But she pays for, you know, private jets, shipping, travel.
40:00Your hotels, your lunch, water washes, first class tickets.
40:04Yes.
40:05So where's the gold?
40:07Every single connection that's related to this gold opportunity came from you.
40:13When we started this, Carol did the research.
40:17We made the list of people that we want to talk to.
40:20I did not make that list.
40:22You've made every list.
40:23You've made every list of anyone that she's ever met.
40:25Every single connection that came, that took money from her, came from your connection.
40:30All your friends, all people that you know, everything from you.
40:33Yes.
40:34We hire private investigation.
40:35That's great.
40:36That's great.
40:37We're just telling you that it doesn't look good, that all this money that's been gone,
40:41came through your connections.
40:42You know how much money she lost, right?
40:43Of course.
40:44Every single cent.
40:45All we know, for sure, is that she's lost a life-ruining amount of money.
40:50And it was all given to people that you introduced her to.
40:54I introduced her, yes.
40:55Yeah.
40:56I knew all these people before I knew her.
40:57Well, that's fine.
40:58Yeah.
40:59She said that.
41:00She said that these people came from you.
41:01You've done this before multiple times.
41:03These are your connections.
41:04And this is the only time after Carol's invested all this money, this is the only time that
41:10it went south that didn't be lucrative, right?
41:13But all of these other deals you've done in the past always worked out.
41:18So why now is it not going through?
41:23It's just as much as if she put it directly in your hand.
41:27Sure.
41:28Yeah.
41:29Yeah.
41:30Is there anything else?
41:32You're never going to see Carol again.
41:33Sorry?
41:34You are never going to see Carol again.
41:36Fair enough.
41:37This is good.
41:38This is just like that?
41:39You're not even asking why?
41:40You don't even want to know what's going on?
41:41No.
41:42Oh, yeah.
41:43You look real torn up about it.
41:44I don't like your sarcasm.
41:46I don't give a shit.
41:47You are a piece of shit human being.
41:50If this meeting served any purpose other than to meet you, it's to let you know you are being
41:55investigated.
41:56We already have federal authorities.
41:57I really, I'm not worried about it.
41:58Oh, you should be.
41:59You should be.
42:00No, I'm not.
42:01If I did something wrong, I won't be.
42:02Your arrogance is going to do you wrong on this one.
42:03I'm not arrogant.
42:04Just so you know.
42:05Oh, you are.
42:06I beg to differ, motherfucker.
42:07Help you sleep well tonight.
42:09He won't.
42:10Do you have Carol's phone?
42:11Is he texting her?
42:12Oh, he is texting her.
42:13He said, it is better I stay away until the investigation is complete.
42:26Thank you.
42:27Beautiful.
42:28Proud of you.
42:29Oh, thanks.
42:30Proud of you.
42:31Fuck yeah.
42:32Nicely done.
42:33You okay?
42:34Yes.
42:35Yes.
42:36Nice job.
42:37Yeah.
42:38We got Carol out of there.
42:41And we confronted Shireen.
42:43At first, he didn't admit to connecting Carol with the other scammers.
42:47Then he did.
42:48He was flip flopping all over the place.
42:51Now that Carol is safe, she can write the affidavit Ken needs to start pursuing this case in Spain and the UAE.
43:01How are you guys feeling after everything that happened?
43:03I feel really good.
43:04Yes, it feels like a lot of weight from the past year or more taken off my shoulder.
43:11Trust me, he's going to be thinking long and hard about that conversation for a while.
43:15I'm just very proud of every single one of you.
43:17You guys came so far and finally we can see the light at the end of the tunnel, you know?
43:24I am so glad Carol is safe.
43:26I know we did our part.
43:27Ken is doing his part.
43:29But it's all because of her family that Carol is out of this awful situation.
43:34To make sure it doesn't happen again, we have a plan.
43:38She's going to be retargeted over and over.
43:40You're going to have to monitor it.
43:41You're going to have to keep your eye on what she's doing.
43:43We also would recommend and we can help you set this up.
43:45It's called Surfshark, but they have a feature called Alternate ID.
43:48So it actually generates a name and an address and a phone number that's not tied to her.
43:53If she's signing up for something and they email her or text her, she'll get it.
43:55It'll go to her number.
43:56She'll get it.
43:57But they won't have her information.
43:58Right.
43:59We're here, let us know.
44:00And we're not stopping.
44:01It's just going to take some time to chip away at it.
44:03It has to be, yeah.
44:04Thank you.
44:05Thank you and thank you for being brave, being vulnerable.
44:08Thank you for letting us tag along in this story.
44:10Thank you.
44:11For all your help.
44:12I appreciate it.
44:13This case is ongoing.
44:19In the meantime, Carol will be safe with her family.
44:22We made it.
44:23Getting on our plane.
44:25She was taken out of Spain, away from Shireen, and is back in the United States.
44:34We officially made it to Denver.
44:37And that is what we call getting even.
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