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On Constitution Day, a political debate erupted over whether the Indian Constitution is in danger. The discussion featured remarks from President Droupadi Murmu and Prime Minister Narendra Modi, while Leader of Opposition Rahul Gandhi accused the government of undermining constitutional values. Congress spokesperson Saral Patel argued, 'The biggest threat today is not enemy across the border or outside our borders but the enemy within, the slow suffocation of democracy masked as nationalism.' In response, BJP spokesperson Radhika Khera defended the government's record, citing the abrogation of Article 370 and women's reservation, while pointing to the Congress party's history with the Emergency. The debate, held at India Today, explored whether India's supreme law is genuinely under threat or if the slogan is a political tool.
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00:00It is Constitution Day today and you had both sides of the spectrum, the government and the opposition come out in celebration, but what was difficult to miss is the politics around it.
00:12Constitution has been one issue that has found resonance, especially where elections, political campaign and politics is concerned.
00:22This Constitution Day, things were no different as political.
00:30It is Constitution Day, in a year where the Constitution of India has held center stage in political discourse.
00:43The next year, Narendra Modi, RSS and BJP started to finish this book.
00:50It has been put in the back. It has been opened. It has been opened. It has been opened. It has been opened.
00:56It has been opened. It has been opened. It has been opened.
01:00All of this in the backdrop, and India marked Constitution Day today at the Central Hall of Samvidan, Southern, even as politics erupted alongside the celebrations.
01:15Constitution Day is observed every year on November 26th to mark the adoption of India's constitution.
01:27Officially declared in 2015, the day aims to promote awareness about constitutional values, duties and citizens' fundamental rights.
01:36President Draupadi Murmur, Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Lok Sabha Speaker Om Bhirla, Leader of Opposition Rahul Gandhi and Union Ministers attended the program.
01:53President Murmur addressed both houses of parliament, calling the Constitution the backbone of India's democracy.
01:59Prime Minister Narendra Modi appealed to citizens and lawmakers to strengthen the constitution and protect India's democratic framework.
02:29Leader of Opposition Rahul Gandhi pledged to shield the constitution and defend its core values, calling on citizens to defend constitutional values.
02:40Rahul said, and I quote,
02:41Let us pledge that we shall not allow any assault on the constitution in any manner whatsoever, unquote.
02:50Sharing a post on X, Banerjee paid tribute to the constitution with a sharp warning,
02:55stating that at a time when democracy is at stake, secularism is in an endangered situation and federalism is being bulldozed.
03:05We must protect the valuable guidance that the Samvidan provides.
03:09But the day's solemnity soon gave way to a political face-off.
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03:18We must protect Iran's community, according to Iran's
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03:25We must protect Iran's people, in every minute.
03:25We must protect Iran's people that they are under the Government.
03:27We must protect Iran's people, in every minute.
03:28We must protect Iran's people.
03:32We must protect Iran's people.
03:33We must protect Iran's people in a future,
03:35Congress party.
03:36From ceremonial tribute in parliament to political sparring outside it,
04:02Constitution Day once again became a reminder that India's supreme law remains both a unifying force
04:09and a battleground in national politics.
04:12Bureau Report, India Today.
04:17Alright, so before we get into our debate number one, the question that we moot this evening,
04:23is Samvidhan Khathre mein hai still a hot and bottling issue?
04:27Well, let's take it to our panelists this evening.
04:30Joining me, Rajat Sethi, Political Analyst, Radhika Khera, National Spokesperson,
04:34Bharati Jamta Parti, Shahid Siddiqui, Author, Political Analyst,
04:38Saral Patel, National Spokesperson, Congress.
04:40Beginning with the Congress Spokesperson, Saral Patel.
04:43Saral Patel, the fact is, the proof would be in the eating of the pudding
04:48and what the Congress has been harping on since 2024 is Samvidhan Khathre mein hai.
04:55Ever since 2024, election after election, I would reckon the people of this country
05:00has answered that question, ke Samvidhan Khathre mein nahi hai.
05:03By giving in election after election, full mandate to the NDA.
05:10Is that debate now over?
05:13Preeti, I want to begin with absolute clarity that no political party has attacked the Constitution
05:19Constitution more consistently, more systematically, and more shamelessly than BJP RSS.
05:27Today, they are pretending to salute the Constitution, but their history is a chart sheet.
05:32And let me read out a few points from that chart sheet.
05:35On 30th November 1949, RSS mouthpiece organizer wrote that Indian Constitution was non-Indian.
05:45BJP pretends to worship Baba Sahib Ambedkar on Constitution Day today.
05:50But on 12th December 1949, RSS and Hindu Mahasabha leaders burned the effigy of Dr. Bheem Rao Ambedkar
05:57and the copies of Constitution.
06:00BJP has toppled people's mandate again and again by weaponizing central agencies.
06:06Is that not subversion of the constitutional morality?
06:09And BJP leaders have publicly called for changing of the Constitution
06:13should they get more than 400 seats in 2024.
06:17The people of India stopped that juggernaut.
06:20The Constitution gives us Article 326, which talks about universal adult franchise,
06:26but the government gives us vote-shori, SIR-based mass deletions,
06:32and election commission that behaves like the political extension of the ruling party.
06:39So, again and again, people of India have stopped this attack on the Constitution
06:45by limiting the BJP and by the sheer number, the sheer majority that they were asking for in 2024.
06:54You have 20 more seconds, Saral, because we gave you a two-minute window.
06:58You can use that.
06:59Oh, so I think, you know, in 2023, 143 opposition MPs were suspended.
07:08Parliament passed bills without zero debates.
07:11ED cases have jumped to more than 500% against the opposition.
07:16Conviction rate is less than 1%.
07:19All right, now time is up.
07:20So these are all the systematic attacks.
07:20I'll circle back to you for your two minutes.
07:22I'll cut across to Rajat Sethi while we mic up Radhika Kera.
07:25He's in the studio with us.
07:26But, Saral, you know, you forgot two points.
07:28And, you know, when you hark back to history,
07:31then I would reckon it would be a tad unfair
07:33when you're talking about the Constitution
07:35and where possibly the BJP devalued it
07:38and not touch upon the emergency period on your own.
07:42You also talk about, Saral, on, you know,
07:44how 2024 the BJP juggernaut was stopped
07:48in the name of Constitution Khatre Hai.
07:50That juggernaut now has been rolling over the Congress
07:52across four states.
07:53So by that benchmark, you know, it doesn't quite hold.
07:56But I'll circle back to you on that conversation.
07:58Rajat Sethi, I want to pull you in.
08:00The opposition seems to suggest as well today
08:03that ab toh sabse zada constitution khatre mein hai
08:07because you've had institution after institution,
08:11constitutional posts like that of the EC
08:13that stand compromised today.
08:16You know, vote chori ho rehi hai.
08:18All of that put together.
08:20This is actually, the debate is not settled.
08:22The debate is only just starting.
08:26Sir, thank you, Priti ji.
08:27Well, the point, the core point is,
08:31according to the Congress Party,
08:32constitution will be alive and thriving
08:34only when they are in power.
08:36Every other instance of time,
08:38constitution will be under threat.
08:39You know, this entire troop has been going on
08:42for the past decade or so with zero impact.
08:44Had they been, you know, looking within,
08:46they would have resolved the issue
08:47and figured out the real issues of the masses and the public.
08:50If I were to go into history,
08:52then the history will scream and screech
08:54on the top of the voice saying that the Congress is the one
08:56and the only party which is responsible
08:58for killing and destroying the spirit
09:00and shedding it for multiple times.
09:02I mean, you pick up anything.
09:03Just pick up how many times has the president's rule,
09:06the Article 356 invoked by the Congress Party
09:09when they were in central government.
09:11It's more than 90 times.
09:12I mean, I can go after sequence after sequence
09:15of what has happened.
09:16The very first amendment,
09:18when the freedom of speech was curtailed,
09:19who did it?
09:20It was their iconic leader, Pandit Jawahal al-Nehru.
09:23He did that.
09:24Look at the number of people who were put into jail
09:26during his era.
09:29Fast forward to Indira Gandhi.
09:30Look at the 39th amendment,
09:32when the prime minister's office
09:33was the very first time put beyond judicial review.
09:36So these are some of the things that they have done.
09:38An emergency is going to be the hallmark of Congress Party.
09:42And there cannot be any example in the past,
09:44in the future, any time,
09:46that this country is going to see,
09:47because the public has seen what all
09:49can an uncontrolled political party,
09:52driven by one family's command and control system,
09:55can unleash.
09:56Look at the internal democracy of the Congress Party itself.
09:59Our constitution providers,
10:01when they formulated certain laws
10:03for how political parties should be organized,
10:06internal elections was the first and foremost thing.
10:09Look at what has happened to the Congress Party.
10:11There is zero democracy internally.
10:13How can they boast about the country's democracy
10:15in the very first place?
10:16So constitution and Congress are oxymoronic.
10:19They don't go together.
10:20And that should rest the debate.
10:22So there is no point, Congress,
10:23for delving time into history.
10:26Because the history will throw up...
10:28Okay.
10:29We will not be able to...
10:30Your time is up.
10:30I'll come back to you for two minutes.
10:32I want to bring in Shahid Siddiqui,
10:33you know,
10:34who's seen many seasons of Indian politics
10:36and also in the last couple of years
10:38where constitution and the debate around it
10:41has held center stage.
10:42Shahid Siddiqui,
10:43do you see the debate being settled now?
10:45Something that at least politically
10:48had become a rallying force
10:49for the opposition in 2024?
10:52Priti,
10:53Indian constitution is a living document
10:55and it has stood the test of time.
10:57And we must understand that it's not...
11:00You know,
11:01it depends on who is running the state,
11:04the systems,
11:04the political system.
11:06And it has always...
11:07Every political party in power
11:09has tried to manipulate it,
11:12to pressurize it,
11:14to change it in a way
11:15that it suits them.
11:16But despite everything,
11:19it has been one of the finest pieces
11:21of, you know,
11:22written law.
11:23And it has been an instrument of change,
11:25a huge change.
11:26It has just not been a letter of law
11:29or of political systems.
11:30It has brought about social,
11:32economic, political change.
11:33And what is most intrinsic
11:35to our constitution
11:36is the equality before law,
11:39the gender equality
11:40and cultural equality.
11:44But above that,
11:45secularism is intrinsic
11:47to our constitution.
11:49Every single act
11:51of our constitution
11:52is based on the idea
11:54of secularism.
11:55That is,
11:55everyone is equal,
11:57rising above religious differences
12:00and religion
12:01does not come into play
12:03in deciding
12:04any of our
12:06political institutions.
12:08And therefore,
12:08the only threat
12:09I find today
12:10to our constitution
12:12is from
12:13those who are talking
12:14of a Hindu rashtra
12:16or a Muslim rashtra
12:18or a Sikh rashtra
12:19or any kind of rashtra
12:20based on religion.
12:21So that is a threat
12:23and all the parties
12:24should stand up
12:25and see to it
12:25that that does not happen
12:27because if that happens
12:28then the constitution,
12:30very fundamental
12:30of the constitution
12:31is tarpated,
12:32it is destroyed.
12:34And secondly,
12:35is the idea
12:36of equality
12:37before law
12:37and the institutions
12:38because the constitution
12:39has established
12:40some of the finest
12:41independent institutions
12:42especially the institution
12:43of judiciary,
12:45our federal system,
12:46all these have to be protected
12:47and ultimately
12:49it's the people
12:49of this country,
12:50the citizens
12:50who have to stand up
12:51and protect the constitution.
12:53The parties are not
12:53going to do that.
12:54People have to do that.
12:55All right,
12:56the people have to do it.
12:57I want to bring in
12:58Radhika Khera
12:58into this conversation.
12:59Radhika Khera,
13:00you've just joined us.
13:01We had the
13:02Congress spokesperson
13:03who has given out
13:04a list on how
13:05over time
13:06in the last
13:07decade or so
13:09the BJP
13:11has duly
13:12point by point
13:12compromised
13:13the constitution
13:14of this country.
13:16Good evening to everyone
13:17and Samvidhan Devaski
13:18baut baut shukkhaam nai.
13:19While the nation today
13:20bore down
13:21to the constitution
13:22as the
13:23essence
13:24of our country,
13:26the Congress
13:26is doing
13:26what it has been doing
13:27for the past 75 years,
13:29lecturing
13:29and dismantling
13:31the actual
13:32essence of the constitution.
13:33Whether it was
13:34disrespecting
13:35Baba Sahib Ambedkar Ji,
13:37Congress
13:37not only went on
13:38to defeat him
13:39in an election,
13:40they even ensured
13:41that his portrait
13:41was not there
13:42in the central hall.
13:44Having said that,
13:45let's just
13:45instead of going back
13:46to history
13:47where everybody
13:47before me
13:48has already spoken
13:49about how they got
13:50an emergency,
13:50how 90 governments
13:51were toppled,
13:52going against
13:53the constitution.
13:55But what we saw
13:55today in parliament
13:56was something
13:57which was very shameful.
13:59Yes, we know
14:00Rahul Gandhi's fight
14:01is against the Indian state
14:02but today
14:03while everyone
14:03was standing
14:05and singing
14:06the national anthem
14:07and everyone
14:08bowed down after that,
14:09what was Rahul Gandhi
14:10doing while this
14:11national anthem
14:11was being sung?
14:12He was looking here,
14:13there and everywhere.
14:15And you know,
14:16Preeti,
14:17when the national anthem
14:17is being sung,
14:18we stand straight
14:19in attention.
14:20You're not supposed
14:20to be looking here
14:21and there
14:21that you're disrespecting
14:23the actual essence
14:24of the,
14:24and you can
14:25leharau the constitution
14:26as much as you want
14:27but you don't respect
14:28the country,
14:28you don't respect
14:29the national anthem,
14:30you don't respect
14:31any institution
14:32and you don't respect
14:33Baba Sahib Ambedkar Ji.
14:35It is the
14:35Bharatiya Janata Party
14:36which actually
14:37is living the constitution.
14:39It is under
14:39the Prime Minister
14:40Sri Narendra Modi Ji
14:42that the constitution day
14:44is being institutionalized
14:45today.
14:46And also,
14:47we are the ones
14:47who have removed
14:48Article 370,
14:49insured reservation
14:49for EWS,
14:50in short,
14:51triple 3 lakh is removed,
14:52you went to court
14:53to remove it.
14:54We are also ensured
14:55that women are getting
14:56equal representation.
14:58That is the essence
14:59of the constitution
15:00and what Baba Ambedkar Ji
15:01actually wanted,
15:03not what the congress
15:04is doing,
15:04getting emergency
15:06into the country,
15:06toppling governments.
15:08When have they even
15:08once in the entire tenure
15:10respected the constitution?
15:11They are the ones
15:12who have even changed
15:13the constitution
15:14time and again.
15:15Today,
15:15the constitution
15:16that we have
15:16has also previously
15:17been changed
15:18by the congress.
15:19I am going to give
15:19two minutes each.
15:20I am running out of time
15:21but I would like to give
15:22two minutes each
15:22to all our panelists
15:24to put their point forward.
15:25Sarul Patel,
15:26I want to bring you back
15:27and make your pitch
15:28two minutes tough now.
15:32So,
15:32Preeti,
15:33first of all,
15:33you talked about emergency.
15:34Yes,
15:35time and again,
15:36the Congress party
15:37has owned it up
15:38and whether it is
15:39the leader of opposition
15:40Sri Rahul Gandhi Ji
15:41or the Congress president
15:43Sri Maldikarjun Khadgeji,
15:44they have said
15:45that emergency
15:46was the dark period
15:47in the history of India.
15:50But,
15:50at the same time,
15:51you must remember,
15:52it was the same
15:53Indira Gandhiji's government
15:54and the Congress government
15:55that after
15:57the need of emergency
15:59because kind of
16:00the calls
16:00that were being made
16:01to the Indian army
16:03and so on and so forth,
16:04the kind of anarchist
16:05atmosphere
16:06which was there,
16:07they announced election
16:09and yes,
16:10people of India
16:10defeated us
16:11in that election
16:12saying that we should
16:13be punished
16:14for the wrongs
16:16that were done
16:16during the emergency.
16:17But let us remember
16:18that the same people
16:20of India
16:20realized their mistake
16:22and they thumpingly
16:23voted us back
16:24in the government
16:25with a thumping majority.
16:27So,
16:28this claims
16:28that
16:29that
16:30that
16:30that
16:33that
16:33emergency was wrong
16:34was proved wrong
16:35by the mandate
16:37that people of India
16:38gave to the
16:38Indira Gandhiji
16:39in the election
16:40that was held
16:41two years later.
16:42And
16:42my friend
16:44from BJP
16:44kept claiming
16:46that they are
16:46the protectors
16:47of the constitution.
16:49Let me believe her.
16:50Fine.
16:50So,
16:51let them answer
16:52one single question.
16:53What is a bigger attack
16:54on Indian constitutional values
16:56than the assassination
16:57of Mahatma Gandhi?
16:59What is the more
17:00unconstitutional
17:01than burning
17:01the effigy
17:02of Dr. Dheem Rao
17:03Ambedkar
17:04and burning
17:05the copies
17:06of constitution?
17:07Then let the BJP
17:08spokesperson say
17:09Nathuram Ghod
17:09say Zindabad.
17:11Let her say
17:11Veer Savarkar
17:14Murdabad
17:15let her say
17:16that Veer Savarkar
17:17Murdabad
17:18Nathuram
17:19Ghod
17:19say Murdabad
17:20let her say
17:21that the effigies
17:23of the constitution
17:24which was burned
17:25by the members
17:25of RSS
17:26is anti-national
17:27and unconstitutional.
17:28I challenge her
17:30to say these words
17:31again on your show
17:32right here
17:33right now.
17:33Let us prove
17:34how big a protector
17:35of constitution
17:36they are.
17:37All right,
17:38sir,
17:38your time is up.
17:39I want to bring in
17:39Rajat Sethi
17:40for his two minutes.
17:41Rajat,
17:42you know,
17:42if you look in paper
17:43between,
17:43say,
17:431966,
17:441966,
17:451977
17:46under Indira Gandhi
17:47constitution amended
17:4825 times
17:49under the rule
17:50of Prime Minister Modi
17:51constitution amended
17:528 times.
17:53So, yes,
17:53you do see
17:53the difference there
17:54but the charge
17:55by the opposition
17:55Rajat today
17:56is the,
17:57you know,
17:58dilution of institutions,
18:01the dilutions
18:01of constitutional posts
18:03and in all
18:04basically seeming
18:05to suggest
18:05that
18:06Samvidhan
18:07Khatri mein hai.
18:08Two minutes.
18:10So,
18:10Preeti ji,
18:11the atonement
18:12for emergency
18:13is still not complete.
18:14If they name
18:15their party's
18:17headquarters
18:17as Indira Bhavan
18:18and they cannot
18:19dare to say
18:20Indira Gandhi
18:20Murdabad
18:21till that time
18:22atonement
18:22is not complete.
18:24Okay?
18:24So,
18:24I will leave this case
18:25the Congress party
18:27has been repeatedly
18:28punished by these people
18:29for literally
18:30butchering
18:31and raping
18:31our constitution.
18:32There is no
18:33simple terms
18:34to say
18:35what they've done
18:35in 1975.
18:37Now,
18:37let me again tell you
18:38if you again go back
18:40what happened
18:41during the First Amendment
18:42when the first
18:43Lok Sabha
18:43was not even
18:44duly elected
18:45and constituted
18:46they brought in
18:46the First Amendment
18:47which was
18:48fundamentally changed
18:49the many,
18:50many tenets
18:51of the constitution
18:52bringing in
18:53a schedule
18:54like the ninth schedule
18:55to create a list
18:56to completely
18:57curtail the judicial review.
18:59So,
19:00what they have done
19:00to the constitution
19:01will go down
19:02in annals of history
19:03and will constantly
19:04be invoked
19:05by future generations
19:06of this country.
19:07This constitution
19:08is a living
19:09and breathing document
19:10and thriving document
19:11not courtesy Congress
19:13but because of
19:14the people
19:14of this country
19:15and if any party
19:16we BJP
19:17or Congress
19:17attempt
19:18any kind of
19:19onslaught
19:21on the constitution
19:21will face
19:22the wrath
19:22of this public
19:23and this public
19:24you cannot discount
19:25if they are showing you
19:26that you
19:26are only worthy
19:28of sitting in the opposition
19:29that is a time
19:30for you to reflect.
19:31Reflect that
19:32what have you
19:32fundamentally done
19:33over decades
19:34and decades
19:35that you have now
19:35reached to a point
19:36of no return
19:37and a point of extinction.
19:38This is something
19:39as a sober moment
19:40for the Congress party
19:41to think that
19:42where have you brought in?
19:43Opposition
19:43is a sacred space
19:45in the democracy
19:46where you can
19:47keep the government
19:48in checks and balances
19:49but what have you done
19:50with your own actions?
19:52You have completely
19:53eroded the space
19:53of opposition now
19:54you find it hard
19:55to even claim
19:56an opposition
19:56you know
19:58the leader of opposition
19:59in several states
20:00of this country.
20:01That is the level
20:02on which you have
20:03stooped down to.
20:04So it is time
20:05for introspection
20:05and I think
20:06the public here
20:07is smart
20:09is aware
20:10and is the biggest
20:10custodian of the constitution
20:12none of the political parties is.
20:14Okay you know
20:14we are going to get
20:15all sides of the argument
20:16are being heard
20:17by the people
20:17so who has truly eroded
20:18the essence
20:20of the constitution
20:21the jury is out there
20:22you know
20:23the people will decide
20:24I want to bring in
20:24Shahid Siddiqui
20:25back into this conversation
20:26Shahid Siddiqui
20:28you know
20:28while the debate
20:30on the essence
20:30of the constitution
20:31and who
20:32has disregarded it more
20:34can continue
20:34till the cows come home
20:35but if you just go
20:36a little myopic
20:37on it
20:37where it all started
20:38was 2024 election
20:40Shahid Siddiqui
20:41the congress bolstered
20:42on the fact
20:43where certain leaders
20:43of the BJP
20:44at that point of time
20:45hinted
20:45that they could change
20:46the constitution
20:47if they come into power
20:48and that snowballed
20:49into a massive pull
20:51for the congress
20:52and that is what
20:53they tried to ride
20:53that election on
20:55in 2024
20:55some suggest
20:56it worked for them
20:57but now Shahid Siddiqui
20:59as a political analyst
21:00we have seen election
21:01after election
21:01the mandate going
21:03in the favor of NDA
21:04is that debate settled
21:06is constitutional
21:07khatre mein hai
21:08still a relevant
21:09talking point
21:10for the opposition
21:11it may be a relevant
21:13talking point
21:14for the opposition
21:14but the fact remains
21:15that the constitution
21:16is always to be guarded
21:18it is always in danger
21:20but it has to be guarded
21:22by everyone
21:23in this country
21:24and we must also understand
21:26one point
21:26that emergency
21:27was declared
21:28in this country
21:28according to the procedures
21:29of the constitution
21:30it was not against
21:31the constitution
21:32and it was also
21:34very soon
21:36the congress party
21:37realized
21:38that it was counterproductive
21:40and within 27 months
21:41they did away
21:43with the idea
21:44of emergency
21:44and the second point
21:46that only
21:47one party
21:49was all parties
21:50came together
21:50all political
21:51you know
21:52ideas came together
21:53to make this constitution
21:54and therefore
21:55to just give credit
21:57to any one party
21:58or any one
21:59ideology
22:00is not correct
22:01but the fact
22:03remains that
22:04BJP
22:04as an ideology
22:06when it was
22:06Jansang
22:07and later on
22:08BJP avtar
22:09has never been
22:11happy with the constitution
22:12they have not been
22:14happy with
22:14various ideas
22:15especially
22:16the idea of
22:17secular
22:17basis of the constitution
22:19and many of their
22:21leaders have
22:21always been claiming
22:22that if they come
22:23back to power
22:24with a two-third
22:25majority
22:26or a very clear
22:27majority
22:28they will
22:29change the constitution
22:31do away with
22:31the constitution
22:32I don't mind
22:34if they remove
22:34secular and socialist
22:36from the preamble
22:37because that doesn't
22:39matter
22:39the very
22:40as I said
22:41earlier
22:42the very basis
22:43of the constitution
22:44is secular
22:45so if you
22:46you cannot do
22:47away with the idea
22:48of secularism
22:49without doing away
22:50with the constitution
22:50lock, stock and barrel
22:52and therefore
22:52the constitution
22:53is to be protected
22:55by the judiciary
22:56has to stand up
22:58and all those
22:59thinking Indians
23:00have to stand up
23:01to protect the constitution
23:02it is endangered
23:04by all those
23:04in power
23:05and those
23:05who have
23:05absolute power
23:06are more
23:08threatening
23:09the constitution
23:09and those
23:10in the opposition
23:11must stand up
23:12to protect it
23:13who have
23:13sovereign
23:14in opposition
23:14Radhika Khaira
23:15to bring you in
23:16on your final
23:16two minutes
23:17though we will
23:17try and give
23:18all of our
23:18panelists
23:19one minute
23:19more
23:20after this
23:20but to bring
23:21you in
23:22on more
23:22you know
23:23with what
23:23Shahid Siddiqui
23:24said
23:25sometimes
23:25the subversion
23:26of the constitution
23:27can happen
23:27within the ambit
23:28of the constitution
23:29like in the case
23:30of the emergency
23:31many would suggest
23:32today there is
23:33an undeclared
23:33emergency
23:34where the use
23:35of draconian laws
23:36like sedition law
23:37selective prosecution
23:38political targeting
23:39all of that
23:40comes as
23:42subversion
23:43of constitution
23:44while it is
23:44in the ambit
23:45of the constitution
23:45let me begin
23:47with replying
23:48to the congress
23:49spokesperson
23:49Saral bhai
23:50Veer Savarkar
23:51Zindabad
23:51Veer Savarkar
23:52Amar Rahe
23:53Mein kisi ke liin
23:54Murdabad nahi bolongi
23:55leken I challenge you
23:56that Rahul Gandhi
23:57who from the
23:58ramparts of
24:00Indira Bhavan
24:01Kamal ka naam
24:02it suited that dialogue
24:03when he said
24:04that my fight
24:05is against the
24:05Indian state
24:06of course
24:06when your
24:07party's office
24:08name is
24:08Indira Bhavan
24:08your fight
24:09will be
24:09against the
24:09Indian state
24:10you people
24:11are fighting
24:11and saying
24:12vote chori
24:12huiye
24:13the same
24:13Indira Gandhiji
24:14who was
24:15declared
24:16unfit to
24:17contest elections
24:17for 6 years
24:18by the court
24:19because she
24:19was caught
24:20vote chori
24:21ke liye
24:21and you
24:22declared
24:22emergency
24:22which was
24:23against the
24:23constitution
24:24you went
24:24on to topple
24:2519 governments
24:25which was
24:26against the
24:26constitution
24:2742nd amendment
24:28because your
24:29family wanted
24:29it
24:29against the
24:30constitution
24:30Sonia Gandhiji
24:31became a
24:32citizen
24:3215 years
24:33after getting
24:34married
24:34and became
24:35a voter
24:353 years
24:36before she
24:36became a
24:37citizen of
24:37India that
24:37again is
24:38against the
24:39constitution
24:39yet you
24:40tell us
24:40that we
24:41have we
24:42are the
24:42ones against
24:43the constitution
24:43and Preeti
24:43ji when you
24:44say that
24:44undeclared
24:45emergency if
24:45this was
24:46an undeclared
24:46emergency
24:47whether it
24:48was you
24:48Saral Patel
24:49or Mr.
24:49Siddiqui
24:50who spoke
24:50before me
24:51everyone would
24:52be in jail
24:52like it was
24:53during Indira
24:53Gandhi's time
24:54the fact that
24:55you can
24:55criticize the
24:55government openly
24:56is a
24:57is a
24:58actual
24:59you know
25:00there is
25:02freedom of
25:02speech and
25:03there is
25:03nothing that
25:04is being
25:04stopped
25:05and also
25:05Shahid
25:06bhai
25:06let me
25:07remind you
25:07this narrative
25:08that the
25:08Bharatiya
25:09Janta party
25:09is going to
25:10change the
25:10constitution
25:11which was
25:12set by
25:12your friend
25:12Mr.
25:13George
25:13Sauras
25:13and Rahul
25:14Gandhi
25:15that has
25:15failed
25:16the people
25:16of India
25:17have given
25:17a befitting
25:17reply in the
25:18Lok Sabha
25:18election
25:19and continues
25:20replies in
25:21Haryana
25:21Delhi
25:22Bihar
25:22and you
25:23will see
25:23another reply
25:24in West
25:25Bengal
25:26so stop
25:26spreading the
25:27fake narrative
25:27and the fact
25:28that you are
25:28able to
25:29spread the
25:29fake narrative
25:30and still be
25:30on television
25:31and say it
25:31proves that
25:32there is no
25:33emergency
25:33hidden
25:34emergency
25:34and the fact
25:35that this
25:35country is
25:36following the
25:36constitution
25:37we are the
25:37ones who are
25:38actually living
25:39the constitution
25:39removing
25:40I will repeat
25:40myself again
25:41women reservation
25:44EWS reservation
25:46we have to
25:46take the
25:46Baba Sahib
25:47of Murti
25:48Baba Sahib
25:49of Portrait
25:49in the Central
25:50Hall
25:50we got it
25:51not you
25:51last four minutes
25:53one minute each
25:54to all our
25:55panelists
25:55and let's
25:56stare away
25:56from personal
25:57attacks
25:57I don't know
25:58if John
25:59Soros is
25:59the friend
26:00of Shahid
26:00Siddiqi
26:00he will be
26:01able to
26:01tell us
26:01better
26:02but let's
26:02stare away
26:04from all of
26:04that
26:04I will come
26:05to you
26:05Shahid
26:05but
26:06one minute
26:07each
26:07Saral Patel
26:08your one
26:08minute begins
26:08now
26:08go ahead
26:09sir
26:09Piti
26:10Ji
26:11my friend
26:13from BJP
26:14proved
26:15the point
26:15he did
26:16not say
26:16Nathuram
26:17Ghor
26:17Se
26:17Murda
26:18Baad
26:18because
26:19inke
26:19muh mein
26:20Mahatma
26:21Gandhi
26:21hai
26:22inke
26:22muh mein
26:22Ram
26:23hai
26:23lekin
26:23inke
26:24bagal
26:24mein
26:24Nathuram
26:25Ghor
26:25se hai
26:25to
26:26let us
26:27remember
26:28that
26:28Piti
26:29constitution
26:30is not
26:31a document
26:32to be
26:32worshipped
26:32it is a
26:33document
26:33to be
26:34protected
26:34and the
26:35biggest threat
26:36today
26:36is not
26:37enemy
26:37across
26:38the
26:38border
26:38or outside
26:39our
26:40borders
26:40but the
26:41enemy
26:41within
26:42the
26:42slow
26:43suffocation
26:43of
26:44democracy
26:45masked
26:46as
26:46nationalism
26:46constitution
26:48day
26:51cannot be
26:51symbolic
26:52it must
26:52be a
26:53statement
26:53of
26:54resistance
26:54my
26:55friend
26:55from BJP
26:56spoke
26:56about
26:57that we
26:57all of
26:58us
26:58would
26:58land
26:58in
26:58jail
26:59there are
27:00hundreds
27:01of
27:02journalists
27:02who are
27:03languishing
27:03in jail
27:04there are
27:04hundreds
27:05of
27:05activists
27:05who are
27:06languishing
27:06in jail
27:07for years
27:07because they
27:08dared to
27:09raise the
27:09voice
27:10against
27:10this
27:11government
27:11and let
27:12us also
27:12remember
27:13that
27:13constitution
27:13says
27:14that
27:14institution
27:15must be
27:15independent
27:16and not
27:17okay
27:17sir your
27:17time
27:18the
27:18fader is
27:18going to
27:19go down
27:19on its
27:19own
27:19time's up
27:20rajat
27:20sati one
27:20minute
27:21go ahead
27:21sir
27:21I don't
27:24want to
27:24go into
27:25the
27:25history
27:25and look
27:25towards
27:26the
27:26future
27:26as I
27:27said
27:28the
27:28true
27:28custodians
27:29of the
27:29constitution
27:29are
27:30we
27:30the
27:30people
27:30and
27:31we
27:31the
27:32people
27:32cannot
27:32be
27:33given
27:33examples
27:34of
27:34Nepal
27:34and
27:35Bangladesh
27:35and
27:35Sri
27:36Lanka
27:36and
27:36hope
27:36and
27:37pray
27:37that
27:37you
27:37will
27:38crawl
27:38back
27:38into
27:38the
27:39political
27:39corridors
27:40of
27:40power
27:40by
27:41quoting
27:41what
27:42is
27:42happening
27:42in
27:43the
27:43stories
27:43of
27:43misery
27:43of
27:44democracy
27:44that
27:45is
27:45unleashing
27:45in
27:45our
27:46neighborhood
27:46this
27:47country
27:47is
27:47resilient
27:48will
27:48always
27:49be
27:49resilient
27:49contrary
27:50to
27:50your
27:50hopes
27:51and
27:51wishes
27:51that
27:52the
27:52people
27:52will
27:52come
27:52out
27:53behind
27:53the
27:54leader
27:54of
27:54opposition
27:55when
27:55he
27:56hopes
27:56and
27:56prays
27:56that
27:56we
27:57fall
27:57like
27:58a
27:58pack
27:58of
27:58cards
27:58of
27:58countries
27:59like
27:59Bangladesh
27:59and
28:00Nepal
28:00have
28:00fallen
28:00it's
28:01unfortunate
28:01when
28:02you
28:02use
28:02those
28:03countries
28:04to
28:04piggyback
28:05your
28:05politics
28:05and
28:06outsource
28:06your
28:06politics
28:07it's
28:07shameful
28:07be
28:08responsible
28:09opposition
28:09occupy
28:10the
28:11position
28:11that
28:11these
28:12people
28:13have
28:13given
28:13you
28:14do
28:14it
28:14with
28:15a
28:15degree
28:15of
28:15maturity
28:15don't
28:16pour
28:16acid
28:17onto
28:17the
28:17roots
28:18of
28:18our
28:18constitutional
28:19bodies
28:20like
28:20election
28:20commission
28:21go and win
28:22the hearts
28:22and minds
28:23of the
28:23people
28:23of this
28:24country
28:24all right
28:25sir
28:25time up
28:26one minute
28:27sir
28:27please make
28:28your point
28:28I am the
28:31only one
28:31among all
28:32these people
28:32and among
28:33a lot
28:33of people
28:33who went
28:34to jail
28:34during
28:34emergency
28:35and on
28:3626
28:36June
28:3775
28:39my father
28:39and me
28:40I was
28:40arrested
28:40so I
28:41opposed
28:41emergency
28:42very strongly
28:43so I am
28:43nobody's
28:44friend
28:44and I
28:45stood up
28:46to most
28:46of them
28:47why didn't
28:47George Soros
28:48bail you out
28:48at that
28:49point of
28:49time
28:49sorry
28:50why didn't
28:51George Soros
28:52use his
28:52truck with
28:53Indira Gandhi
28:53and get
28:54you out
28:54of jail
28:54at that
28:55time
28:55at the same
28:56time
28:56I will not
28:58condemn
28:59Indira Gandhi
28:59for everything
29:00these people
29:01want to
29:02I salute
29:03Indira Gandhi
29:04for what
29:05she did
29:05and at
29:06the same
29:06time I
29:07stood up
29:07to her
29:07and people
29:08like me
29:09will stand
29:09up to
29:09BJP
29:10also
29:10today
29:11and at
29:12the same
29:12time we
29:13will see
29:13what is
29:14the contribution
29:14of BJP
29:15and party
29:16and whatever
29:17party is in
29:17power
29:18but the fact
29:19remains
29:20that
29:20constitution
29:22will always
29:23be threatened
29:23but at
29:24the same
29:25time it
29:25has to be
29:26protected
29:26all the
29:27time
29:27people have
29:28to stand
29:29up to
29:29powers
29:30and any
29:31party
29:32that is
29:32too powerful
29:33is a threat
29:34to our
29:34constitution
29:35and therefore
29:35it needs
29:36to be
29:36builded
29:38good point
29:39sir
29:39good point
29:40made
29:40Radhika
29:40Khaira
29:40just a
29:41correction
29:41where you
29:41said
29:41Sonia Gandhi
29:42was a
29:44voter before
29:45citizen
29:45she was on
29:46the voter
29:46rolls
29:46it was
29:46deleted
29:47and she
29:47was only
29:47added
29:48as a
29:48voter
29:48after
29:49she became
29:50a citizen
29:50in 1983
29:51but go ahead
29:51let me correct you
29:52on that
29:52Preeti
29:531980 she was
29:54added
29:541982 she
29:55was
29:55deleted
29:551982
29:56the name
29:57was deleted
29:57I have the
29:58documents
29:58with me
29:59to prove it
29:59she never
30:00voted
30:01without being
30:01a citizen
30:02how did
30:03her name
30:04when she
30:04was not
30:04a citizen
30:05reach the
30:05electoral
30:06rolls
30:06of our
30:07great
30:07nation
30:07just because
30:08her
30:09mother-in-law
30:10was Indira
30:10Gandhiji
30:10and her
30:11husband
30:11was Rajiv
30:11Gandhiji
30:12she was
30:12not a
30:13citizen
30:13what
30:13stopped her
30:14from taking
30:14citizenship
30:14of India
30:15for 15
30:15years
30:16the same
30:16country
30:16that she
30:17is
30:17ruling
30:17today
30:17she
30:18ruled
30:18for 10
30:18years
30:18during the
30:19UPA
30:19government
30:20so please
30:20don't
30:20protect her
30:21she had
30:22her name
30:2282 it
30:23was removed
30:23and 83
30:24again it
30:24was back
30:24exactly
30:25the point
30:26that I
30:26was making
30:26exactly
30:27the point
30:28that I
30:28was making
30:28that's
30:30what you
30:30confirmed
30:30coming back
30:32coming back
30:33to Siddhi
30:33Ki Sahab
30:33thank you
30:34for telling
30:34the nation
30:34that you
30:35were arrested
30:35during the
30:36emergency
30:36which just
30:37shows that
30:37today
30:38there is no
30:38emergency
30:38and you
30:39can criticize
30:40us
30:40and you
30:41will keep
30:41your criticism
30:42and back
30:43to my friend
30:44Saral
30:44please let me
30:45remind you
30:45we are not
30:46the ones
30:46when we lose
30:46the election
30:47we turn
30:48and disrespect
30:49the constitution
30:49and emergency
30:50we say
30:51we will
30:51continue
30:51to
30:52continue
30:52we will
30:53努力
30:53I understand
30:59you don't
30:59have the
31:00karekarta
31:00so you
31:00will not
31:01understand
31:01that
31:01and we
31:02take
31:03Dhilli
31:04we take
31:04Baryana
31:05we take
31:06Bihar
31:07and now
31:08West Pingol
31:08I think
31:09Siddhiki
31:09Sahib
31:09just wanted
31:10to say
31:10one line
31:10Siddhiki
31:11one line
31:12sir
31:12just because
31:13you
31:13were jailed
31:14in emergency
31:14we are giving
31:15you 10
31:15more seconds
31:16I said
31:17he is
31:18taking the
31:19credit
31:19for not
31:19putting me
31:20behind
31:20Baaz
31:20he can
31:21put me
31:21behind
31:22Baaz
31:22or
31:22Harpadi
31:23can
31:23put me
31:23behind
31:23Baaz
31:24I don't
31:24mind
31:25because
31:25I will
31:25stand
31:26with
31:26the
31:26conversation
31:26for not
31:29putting
31:30me
31:30behind
31:30the
31:30Baaz
31:31I appreciate
31:35all four
31:37of our
31:37guests
31:38for joining
31:38us
31:38thank you
31:39there
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