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00:01If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands.
00:10Shall we do it again?
00:15If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands.
00:19If you're happy and you know me, clap your hands.
00:22They're definitely washing, Iranians.
00:26Yes. They'll be filming us.
00:29Shall I offer them a piece of birthday cake?
00:34Best not.
00:35As you say, as long as they know we're here, that's all that matters.
00:42Although it is forbidden, and although I fear punishment, I need to write down what is happening to me and how I feel.
01:05Today, it was yet another interrogation lasting hours. Same question over and over. What is your machine?
01:15They terrorize and intimidate me. They know my weakness is my family, my child, my husband.
01:23What is your machine?
01:34I am ready to go.
01:35A little bit, let's go.
01:40Ahhhh!
01:42That's him as any mom but she
02:11What's your name?
02:13I'm sorry to get out of here.
02:15I'll get out of here.
02:20What's your problem?
02:22What happened?
02:24I'm trying to go to the house.
02:26I'll get out of here.
02:33Hello?
02:35Hello, my mom is mine.
02:37What are you doing?
02:39I'm getting out of here.
02:41What have you spotted?
02:43Do my hair.
02:44You're looking for my hair.
02:45I'll get out of here.
02:46Look.
02:47I said that when I was scared, that I had enough freedom.
02:51But I'm waiting for you.
02:53I'll hold you looking for your hair, and your hair.
02:56Come on!
02:58I'm very happy.
03:00I don't want you to bother me.
03:02I love you.
03:07Oh
03:37There you go.
04:07I'll be back.
04:11Do you want to buy a new car?
04:13I'm going to buy it.
04:15Why do you buy it?
04:21It's okay.
04:24Can I buy a new car?
04:26I'll buy it.
04:37Sorry.
04:48I'll be back.
04:51Get out of the place.
04:55Get out of the place.
04:57Get out of the place.
09:27We've already asked that question.
09:29But we've received not one satisfactory answer.
09:31At the moment, I can only follow government advice and for the sake of Nazanin's safety,
09:37not speak out in public.
09:39I can't rule out not going to Iran myself.
09:42I think I need to go there.
09:45But it's not safe, Richard. And the Foreign Office would never allow it.
09:48Look, I think that's a decision for later.
09:54How much later?
09:57How much later?
10:12How much later?
10:18I got the information I got.
10:21How much later?
10:23How much later?
10:32The power and the power of the M.I.6.
10:36The power of the regime.
10:39The power of the human power.
10:42The power of the human power.
10:44The power of the EU.
10:46The power of the human power.
10:48You brought to me somewhere?
10:50I don't know.
11:03It's again, I'm not sure.
11:07The power of the Eین?
11:09Yes.
11:12Do you have a day?
11:14Yes.
11:15It's okay.
11:17It's a day for yourself.
11:20I'm going to go to the house of my house.
11:23I know you're a little girl.
11:26Because of that,
11:29I'm going to think of you.
11:31And you're going to be the same way.
11:33I'm not going to be the same way.
11:35I'm not going to be the same way.
11:37I'm just a mother who gave you the same way.
11:40You'll have a plan.
11:42You'll be at risk.
11:43If I can understand my imagination,
11:45I will convince you to go to the house.
11:47I'm going to go to anything.
11:48If I can't understand, I'm just going to do it.
11:49I'm going to do it.
11:51I need to go to the house of my mother.
11:54My mother's dazu is not enough.
11:58My daughter's milk's tired.
11:59I'm not doing it.
12:00I can tell you all I can.
12:02I'm going to dream of you.
12:04You know what I mean?
12:06I'm a man. I'm a man. I'm a man.
12:11I'm a man. I'm a man.
12:15I'm a man.
12:17I'm a man.
12:20I'm a man.
12:30You're a man.
12:32You're a man.
12:38What did you say to me when you saw me?
12:41Or did you ask me to ask me about it?
12:46I'm going to ask you.
12:49I'm going to be able to get out of my way.
12:52If you want to make a decision that I'm not alone,
12:54I'm not alone.
12:56I'm not alone.
12:57I'm not alone.
12:59I'm not alone.
13:00I'm not alone.
13:02I'm not alone.
13:03I'm not alone.
13:05I'm not alone.
13:08I'm not alone.
13:22You have to wait until Friday.
13:28Take up, grandpa.
13:36It's my friend.
13:38oh
13:39oh
13:40Oh
13:43oh
13:44oh
13:46oh
13:48oh
13:52oh
13:54oh
13:56oh
13:58oh
13:59oh
14:01oh
14:03oh
14:08Well, I'm happy to meet you.
14:13Are you working on television?
14:15No, don't worry.
14:16Let me tell you something.
14:17No, no, there's no control.
14:19There's a problem. If you want to make a design.
14:24Great!
14:29I'll close the door.
14:31Nothing new to report, Mr. Ratcliffe.
14:37Which is not to say dialogue's halted.
14:39Both the Ambassador and Minister are involved personally.
14:43Did you see my emails?
14:44We did. We read all of your emails.
14:46She was told she was to be released.
14:48She called her family and told them
14:50her car would be taking her to Kerman Airport.
14:53Yes, I saw.
14:54Did she get inside the car? Did she travel to the airport?
14:56Where is she now?
14:58These are my concerns.
15:03Is she alive is another.
15:05We are raising these shared concerns, Mr. Ratcliffe.
15:09Let me assure you, we are taking this matter very seriously.
15:19One question.
15:21Why are you here?
15:23When you still have other more important things to be getting on with.
15:27Yeah.
15:28I did my best, Patrick.
15:32I'm getting some things done.
15:36I don't think I've been totally useless.
15:37Richard, I'm not suggesting anything other than paid leave of absence.
15:40So go.
15:42Get Nazanine home safely.
15:45Then come back and do your job.
15:47Take a look at this photograph.
16:06This picture was taken from my phone.
16:18It is private.
16:21Who are these people?
16:23Who do you think they are?
16:25You know who they are.
16:27They're my family.
16:29It's my husband's brother.
16:32His new wife and an elephant.
16:34Do I need to tell you which is which?
16:38I don't know.
16:39I'm telling the truth.
16:46You will stop lying.
16:48In a chair.
16:50I don't know.
16:51Do it with me, dear.
16:54I'm telling the truth.
16:55You will stop lying!
17:10I'm telling you the truth.
17:14Do my family know where I am?
17:18You have been trained to lie.
17:21The names you've just spoken, I don't know.
17:24I am telling you the truth.
17:26I was raised to tell the truth.
17:28Do you have any other questions?
17:30Yes.
17:31How can I go?
17:33I'm a model.
17:35I'm a model.
17:37She is a woman.
17:39I'm a model.
17:40I'm a model.
17:42I'm a model.
17:44I'm a model.
17:46I'm a model.
17:47I'm a model.
17:48I'm a model.
17:50She says that you have encouraged her to flee from Iran.
17:55That is not true.
17:56And cross the Kurdish border.
17:58That is not true.
17:59Are you saying she is lying to me?
18:02No.
18:03I'm saying it is you who is not telling the truth.
18:05But your cell is bugged.
18:06We've heard every word spoken.
18:07Then you will know what I'm saying is true.
18:10Stop it with your lies and your tricks.
18:12Stop it!
18:13This will not end until you cooperate.
18:20We are very patient.
18:22I want to see my daughter.
18:24I want to speak to my husband, my family.
18:27Why are you doing this to me?
18:28Why?
18:29Why?
18:30Why?
18:31Why?
18:32Why?
18:33Why?
18:35Why?
18:36Why?
19:01Why?
19:03Why?
19:05child. My body is aching for you. It knows you're gone and I miss you. Where have you
19:21been all this time? What have you been doing? What have you been thinking each day when
19:28I'm not there? Gisoo? Gisoo? Gisoo! Richard! Richard! Richard!
19:58Richard!
20:05I've been doing this for a long time.
20:12What is the case of the case?
20:15I've been doing this. The case of the case is the case that you can do.
20:20What did you say to me?
20:24Please leave me.
20:26You can see your children.
20:28I brought my children to Iran.
20:32And I wanted to be a friend of mine.
20:36I wanted to be a friend of mine.
20:45Did you hear what I said?
20:50I'm sorry.
21:20I'm sorry.
21:22I'm sorry.
21:24I'm sorry.
21:26I'm sorry.
21:28I want you to tell me everything you've been doing.
21:30Everything you've been doing.
21:32Everything you've been doing.
21:34Everything you've been doing.
21:36Everything you've been doing.
21:38Everything.
21:39I'm going to tell you that every time you have been able to do it.
21:44It's like a child.
21:46You have told me that it will only be one night.
21:51I want you to tell me everything you've been doing.
21:54Everything you've been doing.
21:56Let me tell you something.
21:59By the way, I'll give you an opportunity.
22:01The whole world, the whole world is quite welcome.
22:07Oh, my God.
22:09The whole world is a way to live.
22:12We'll make a world about you.
22:17We'll return to a hundred years living.
22:21Oh
22:51I can't believe it.
22:53I can't believe it.
22:55I can't believe it.
23:01I want to talk to you.
23:03Tell me,
23:05that the British government has spoken.
23:07I can't believe it.
23:09I can't believe it.
23:11If I can't believe it,
23:13I can't believe it.
23:15I can't believe it.
23:17What are you talking about?
23:21I want to go to Richard.
23:31Mr. Radcliffe, are you still there?
23:33Yes, yes I am.
23:35As far as I've been able to establish,
23:37there is no such deal.
23:39Nothing?
23:41Well, I'm just repeating what her brother in Iran was told.
23:45I mean, if there's no such deal,
23:47then why would they say there is?
23:49The Iranians say many things.
23:51There is no deal.
23:53No agreement to be made.
23:55We have no idea why her interrogators would claim that there is.
23:59Right, thank you.
24:15Who do you think is telling the truth?
24:19The Iranians saying there is an agreement to be made,
24:21or the Foreign Office saying there isn't?
24:27I want to believe the Iranians.
24:29Because that means there's a reason Nazanin's being held.
24:33But I...
24:35I also want to believe in the Foreign Office.
24:38And that maybe there's a reason they can't say anything.
24:42That's right.
24:44We don't know.
24:46I desperately want to trust them.
24:50Us.
24:52The British.
24:54They...
24:56They will be doing something.
24:58So, I...
25:00I will.
25:06What about you?
25:08Let's go back to your father's house.
25:13We didn't want to go to the temple.
25:17We didn't want to go to the temple.
25:20Your father must tell us that the government of Britain will be trusted.
25:26It's very easy.
25:29If the government of Britain will be trusted,
25:33the government will not be trusted.
25:38Not great, Turner.
25:55Not great timing from us, to be fair.
25:57All anyone's interested in is Brexit.
26:03Thank you for coming.
26:05Today marks the 100th day of Nazanin's abduction.
26:11For 100 days, a mother, a British citizen,
26:14has been held inside an Iranian prison, willfully separated from her child.
26:19The intelligence services are admitting that they are detaining a mother and baby, not because of any suspicious activity in Iran, but as collateral for an unknown political deal.
26:29And they have asked me to make this unknown deal known to you, the media.
26:34Now, backed by over 780,000 voices, this petition will be delivered to number 10.
26:41I'm asking the Prime Minister, David Cameron, and his Foreign Secretary, Philip Hammond, to condemn Iran's actions in parliament,
26:50and to ask the question, what is this deal Iran is seeking?
27:17I'm sorry.
27:18But I got you feeling it.
27:19I'll be sorry.
27:20I'm sorry.
27:21I'm sorry.
27:21I'm sorry.
27:22I love you.
27:23I'm sorry.
27:24I'm sorry.
27:25I don't know.
27:26I'm sorry.
27:27I know.
27:28I can't.
27:29I can't.
27:30No.
27:31I know what you're doing.
27:32I can't.
27:33No.
27:34No.
27:35No.
27:36No.
27:37No.
27:38No.
27:39No.
27:40No.
27:41No.
27:42No.
27:43No.
27:44No.
27:45I will be back in the back of my life.
27:47I am a doctor, and I will be back in the back of my life.
27:49You are so good.
27:54Do you see that you are going to be a good person?
27:58Yes.
28:00I am a man of the time.
28:03What do you do?
28:04I have a daughter.
28:05Two years.
28:08What is it?
28:09I am a project of Thompson Reuters.
28:11I'm going to keep my eyes.
28:13It's not good for me to make a difference, but I don't like it.
28:16Do you need a così?
28:18You have to do this work.
28:20I'm going to get one of my energies.
28:22I'm going to go to the next one.
28:28Do you want to go to the next one?
28:30Yes.
28:31I've been working on this whole week.
28:36Did you work on BBC?
28:38Yes, many years ago, I worked for a few years, and I worked for a few months.
28:45Do you have been doing the BBC BBC?
28:48No, no, I don't have any time.
28:50I would like to ask you.
28:52If you have time, it is a legal system that according to the law,
28:56it is a legal system, not a legal system.
29:00. . .
29:30I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
30:00Go ahead.
30:30For Nazanin. They say that stone will turn into ruby by enduring patience. Yes, it will. But with that comes so much pain. From Farah.
30:55For Farah, thank you for your poem. I pray it will give me the strength I will need in the years to come.
31:08Here.
31:10I have to get the strength of this. I have to get the strength of this.
31:28I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
31:58It's been a long time
32:02It's been a long time
32:10I'll give you my life
32:12I'll give you my life
32:14I'm not going to change my mind.
32:18I don't know anything about my phone yet.
32:23I'm sorry.
32:25I'll try to change my mind.
32:44When I'm married to you, you can give me a story to him.
32:48I don't want to be married. I'm not going to leave my family.
32:53I'm going to be a friend who has a family that has been raised to me.
32:57When you give me married to you, I'm going to give you a story to him.
33:02But I just want to tell you.
33:04My friends are going to be born English.
33:07I'm going to be able to make a story to us.
33:14Hello, hello, Richard, my love.
33:44Richard, they say I'm guilty.
33:52Of what?
33:53I've been sentenced to five years of prison.
33:57Guilty of what?
34:00Five years.
34:02That is the sentence, yes, but what is it they say you are convicted of?
34:06In five years, my baby will be seven.
34:09No, no, it doesn't end.
34:10No, no, listen to me.
34:12We will get through this, and I promise, I promise you, I'll devote every hour to bringing you home.
34:16Five years apart.
34:18We will bring you home.
34:22I promise.
34:26Nats.
34:26Nats.
34:49My father.
35:02You're not coming again.
35:05You're not coming.
35:07I'm so sorry.
35:11I'm so sorry.
35:14I'm so sorry.
35:18I wish you could go.
35:20As you go.
35:22I'm sorry.
35:24I'm sorry.
35:26I'm sorry.
35:28I'm sorry.
35:44Hello? Is this Richard Radcliffe? Husband to Nazanin Zagari? Who is this? I can't say.
36:08Is this Richard Radcliffe? It is. Richard, do you have a pen and paper? You are going to want to write this down.
36:22Yes, go on. Regarding your claim of an outstanding deal between the Iranian and British governments, you are not wrong.
36:29The company you should investigate is called IMS, International Military Services Limited.
36:35They are fully owned by the British Ministry of Defence.
36:39They owe money and are currently being dragged through the British courts by M.O.D. Iran, no less.
36:44If this is all true, it would help to know who you are.
36:46It's all true, my friend. Dig deep. The information is there. Good luck.
37:052002, and we have something interesting. IMS make a payment of 400 million pounds to a UK court as a security bond.
37:22Why would they do that? A dispute. It has to be some kind of debt, doesn't it?
37:25It is a debt. Look. An award of damages plus interest was made against the company in connection with a contractual dispute with the government of Iran.
37:33There is a reduction in the debt from 500 to 400 million in 2006, but after that, there is no record of either a 400 million pound payment or cancellation of the debt.
37:45A statement for the subsequent years shows that the dispute is ongoing. The latest negotiations taking place in 2016.
37:54Just before Nazanir was taken. We'll need to see the court records from 2002 to the present. Get on to the Penny Madden.
38:06IMS did indeed pay a sizeable amount of money to the UK courts as security for a debt owed to Iran.
38:15The claimant being the Iranian Ministry of Defence.
38:19Wow.
38:20It all dates back to the 1970s, would you believe, over 40 years ago.
38:27But this argument is still very much alive.
38:31In fact, closed door negotiations between the UK and Iranian governments last took place in March and May of this year, 2016.
38:42The outcome of these negotiations was what, Penny?
38:45Well, as far as I can see, no agreement was reached.
38:48We were told they were holding on to her in May. Coincidence or were the Iranians trying to force an agreement?
38:55Penny, can you talk us through everything you found, please, beginning in the 1970s?
38:59It's 1971 and the oil rich Shah of Iran signs a £650 million contract with the British government for weaponry and military vehicles, including tanks.
39:18The contract is made with the commercial arm of the MOD, International Military Services, a limited company, IMS.
39:27Fast forward to 1978, 1979 and we have the Iranian revolution.
39:32Yeah, I remember it. I remember it being on the news.
39:39The Shah is overthrown and he flees the country.
39:46At this point, the Shah has already paid £100 million to IMS for tanks which, bar the odd few, have yet to be delivered and now will never be delivered.
40:02So Iran wants its money back, with interest. And why not?
40:07They're demanding their money back.
40:09This is when?
40:10Early 1980s. It becomes a legal dispute early 1990s.
40:14Iran takes IMS to the European Court of Arbitration in the Netherlands and they win.
40:20IMS appeals on spurious grounds, the case goes to the Dutch Supreme Court which rules in favour of Iran and the arbitration becomes enforceable.
40:30So where's the problem, besides us paying the silly buggers?
40:33Well, initially the Iran-Iraq war.
40:35Saddam Hussein was our man in the Middle East.
40:46Iraq actually received some of the tanks Iran had paid for.
40:49Oh dear God.
40:51The war lasts between 1980 and 1988.
40:54Legal arguments begin early 90s all the way through to the noughties.
40:58Then EU sanctions against Iran kick in around about 2008.
41:03But everything changed in January this year, 2016.
41:08The nuclear deal.
41:10JCPOA?
41:12Yes.
41:14What's that?
41:15Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action between Iran, the US and the EU.
41:22Very good, Geoff.
41:24Common knowledge.
41:26The plan of action allowed EU sanctions to be lifted, that is, most sanctions.
41:30Meaning that we, the UK, could pay 400 million to the Iranian Ministry of Health, for instance.
41:36But they can't pay, won't pay, the now 400 million to the Iranian Ministry of Defence.
41:43Even though it's their money.
41:45Even though we'd just be giving it back.
41:47Exactly.
41:48So it's not a payment, it's a refund.
41:51What we have to do, is show that this debt is the reason Nazanim was taken.
41:57Wow.
41:58It's children.
42:18Maman?
42:28Why?
42:29Of their grave.
42:30There is some pressure après
42:34From there.
42:35I don't know which roads are seen.
42:37They're the same.
42:39You either?
42:41Why you are?
42:43I am willing to show up about your house.
42:45You can bring yours to those of you.
42:47You can read them therefore.
42:48Yesnah.
42:50Please remind them of your own homes.
42:52I'm trying to enjoy.
42:54Mom?
42:55What is that?
43:22Mom?
43:52you
44:22I'm sorry.
44:26Do you have to contact with Richard?
44:29And do it and do it.
44:32And do it.
44:52Richard, it's me.
44:58My darling, can you hear me?
45:01I'm here.
45:02Can you hear me?
45:04I can't do this.
45:06What do you mean?
45:08I want you to care for Gabriela like I know you will.
45:12What are you saying?
45:14It would be easier for you to forget me.
45:16You must move on with your lives without me.
45:20No, that's it. No, I do not accept that.
45:24I need you. Gabriela needs you.
45:26We love you. That isn't going to change.
45:29Ever.
45:31What?
45:33That's it.
45:37Hello?
45:39I am the man looking after your wife.
45:48I hope you will collect her soon.
45:58What?
46:15I want to say it out loud.
46:39I want the public to know that my wife is being held in solitary confinement
46:44in an Iranian prison for the non-payment of a 40-year-old tank debt.
46:51I feel the Foreign Office know that too, but they won't admit it.
47:01So, how blessed do we do that?
47:05I know a journalist at the Sunday Times I might help.
47:07Is he good? Do we know him?
47:09No, you wouldn't know him, but he's well thought of.
47:11Yeah, Sunday Times is good.
47:12I'm in a splash of the Times. May well lead to more publicity.
47:15We could try for the Today programme. It is a political story.
47:18I think we should inform the Foreign Office of our intentions.
47:21I'll write to Tobias Elwood, tell him we have all the details of the tank debt and request a meeting.
47:26All right?
47:29My dear darling husband, I've loved you so much.
47:48Forgive me. I cannot be apart from you. I cannot be apart from Gisu.
47:57And I cannot bear for you to be apart from your daughter whom you love so dearly.
48:03I release you, my love.
48:06I release you, my love.
48:08I am not too much.
48:09I am not too much.
48:10I have no power of the boxer.
48:11You need the help of theelled.
48:12I am too much.
48:13I also eat all the details of thedulat.
48:14You cannot receive Bhuvian.
48:15You cannot buy Bhavai.
48:17Why are you taking the clothes?
48:19I am not going to buy Bhavai.
48:20I am not going to buy Bhavai.
48:22You cannot buy Bhavai.
48:23You cannot buy Bhavai.
48:24And I am not going to buy Bhavai.
48:26You can buy Bhavai.
48:27I don't know how to eat it, but it doesn't have the ability to eat it, so it doesn't eat it.
48:39It doesn't eat it? Why do you think it doesn't eat it?
48:43Let me ask you a question. It's this way.
48:46Let me ask you a question.
48:48No.
48:49No.
48:50No.
48:51No.
48:52No.
48:53No.
48:54No.
48:55No.
48:56No.
48:57Come on.
48:58Come on.
48:59Come on.
49:00Come on!
49:01Come on!
49:02Come on!
49:03Come on!
49:04Mama!
49:05Mama!
49:06Mama!
49:07I release you, my love.
49:14She must have written the note when she was refusing food.
49:18Is that all?
49:23No.
49:27But now things have changed.
49:29They brought her food when we were dead.
49:31She is a prize to them.
49:33She has value.
49:35She needs to know that she has not forgotten.
49:40She needs to know that we are here.
49:42I am here.
49:43Always.
49:44Do you hear me, Mohammed?
49:46Always.
49:47And I always will be.
49:48Always.
49:50She needs to know I will keep my promise.
49:54I promise.
50:00The husband of a woman who is in jail in Iran has accused the Foreign Office of dragging its feet on seeking her release.
50:05Mrs. Zagali Ratcliffe's husband, Richard Ratcliffe, says the Foreign Office has not done all it could do.
50:11And he thinks he knows why.
50:12He says she's been used as a bargaining chip.
50:14Iran says that Britain owes it 400 million pounds as part of an arms deal dating back 40 years or so.
50:21The Foreign Office won't tell us anything about that particular situation.
50:29You've seen it?
50:31Yeah, I've seen it.
50:32What the fuck has happened?
50:34Were we not promised a splash?
50:36With only one source, it's you claiming one thing and the Foreign Office saying another.
50:39And I think we may well have been briefed against.
50:44Meaning what?
50:45Meaning that one or two people in the media will have been told, quite sympathetically, that Richard Ratcliffe is understandably emotional and going through a very difficult and traumatic time.
51:01So what now?
51:04You answer your phone, we'll go for a pint.
51:07It's Penny.
51:10Penny, yes, I've seen it.
51:12Forget that, that's old news.
51:13We've been offered a meeting with Tobias Elwood.
51:16When?
51:17Day after tomorrow.
51:18It's unheard of.
51:21Is he rattled, do you think?
51:23Well, we certainly have his attention.
51:26Both we at the Foreign Office and the Iranian Minister are aware of your most recent press appearance, the BBC's Today programme and the piece in the Sunday Times.
51:37Yes.
51:39The Iranians are concerned that you're trying to politicise the agenda.
51:43No, all I want to do is to bring Nazanin home safely and soon.
51:47Which is what I told them.
51:48But it does not help that you appear to be, if not misinformed, then misguided.
51:55Your emotional response is, of course, natural and understandable.
52:01Perhaps some form of therapy might help.
52:08Thank you for your concern.
52:11And perhaps if I clarified the position in relation to the tanks.
52:14Please.
52:15The tanks were due to be sold to the Iranians in the 1970s.
52:19The British government took the money but did not supply the tanks.
52:22Instead, those tanks went to Iraq.
52:25All the money received from Iran then sat in an account.
52:29However, due to the sanctions now in place, it's not possible to deliver this money to Iran.
52:33There's no way around this?
52:35By using the Amanis, for example?
52:37No.
52:38The Iranians are aware of this.
52:39So what did the Revolutionary Guard mean when they said, tell your government to do a deal?
52:46Well, they are part of a hard-line government who are encouraging you to highlight quite falsely that the West does not play fair.
52:53Pure propaganda.
52:55Nazanin being taken and the tank deal are very much two separate issues.
52:59Then why have they taken her? If not for leverage?
53:04Paranoia.
53:06You would agree there are thousands of Iranians in exactly the same position as Nazanin.
53:11Anyone who appears suspicious will be on their radar.
53:13This is a mother and baby. The only thing that could identify Nazanin as being suspicious is her dual nationality.
53:21Her passport is why she was taken and her passport gives them leverage.
53:26It's not us or our campaign that has politicized her kidnapping.
53:31You are emotional and under enormous pressure of that, I am certain.
53:35And pressure leads to misunderstandings.
53:39Make no mistake, the Iranians watch for every word spoken, be it Prime Minister's questions in the press or the Today programme.
53:50Your approach and your campaign are, to put it bluntly, damaging.
53:56You have people around you who are saying, well done, but they are wrong.
54:01We must be seen by the Iranians, Richard, to be as one.
54:04You could tweet that you've just met with Tobias Elwood, for example.
54:09You mean, well, of course you do.
54:12But perhaps a more useful outlet for both you and Nazanin would be to keep a diary.
54:19THE END
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54:58Can you buy it with me?
55:13I'm a friend.
55:15I'm a friend.
55:28I'm a friend.
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