00:00There's a lot said without any words when we're writing together.
00:03I think I really like not knowing specifically what you're talking about in a song.
00:07And sometimes you can't actually pinpoint it yourself.
00:09Trying to work it out or trying to talk about it can ruin it.
00:13That's the whole concept of this show.
00:15Yeah, so I'm not going to say anything more.
00:24We're kind of deep into the album, writing the songs.
00:27And I remember we're at my house and we're like, okay, sorry, that's going to be the one.
00:32And we went into the studio and tracked it with the band with live drums and stuff.
00:38It wasn't landing.
00:39It was like Afrobeat but live.
00:42It was terrible, yeah.
00:43It wasn't good.
00:44We were not hitting it.
00:45No.
00:46And it was like one evening in that studio with all the synths and drums.
00:50We're like, let's go one more time.
00:52Track a bunch of drums.
00:53See if we can find a new groove and feeling.
00:55And it's like, we saved it.
00:56Some songs are a real fight like that.
00:58You're really like fighting for it.
01:00And for some reason inside you, you want to fight for it.
01:03We wanted to fight for that one.
01:05I'm sorry for the climb all the way up.
01:10I'm sorry for the fall on the way back down.
01:14I'm sorry for the time that we gave up.
01:19I'm sorry for the fire and the shaky ground.
01:23Take all this with a grain of salt because I don't know what I'm talking about.
01:27Every verse is getting more confusing.
01:30I'm questioning the thing more and more with every verse.
01:33The first one is like actually just apologizing.
01:35And I think I'm like, it's talking about a relationship.
01:38Being in love with somebody.
01:39And the time that we gave up.
01:41Feel with somebody for a long time and it doesn't work out.
01:43I feel genuinely sorry for the time that both people put in.
01:48That's all we have is time.
01:49So that's tough.
01:50On one hand, I genuinely wanted to say sorry to somebody.
02:11There's a relationship and I'm talking about all the pain that comes with that for better
02:16or worse.
02:16But I think I'm also talking to myself and I think I'm also talking to just everybody.
02:21I wanted it to be about how love is painful.
02:25When it's good and when it's bad.
02:26There's an element of heartbreak to it all in a way.
02:28I'm sorry that the world isn't easy.
02:34I'm sorry for the mess that your mother made.
02:39I'm sorry for the lies and the leaving.
02:43I'm sorry for the games and the way we play.
02:48We're not in the relationship.
02:49We're talking about just the external and it's like maybe everything that's out of our
02:53control.
02:54The world isn't easy.
02:55Our parents fuck us up.
02:56They make mistakes.
02:57We lie.
02:58We leave.
02:58We're maybe zooming out there to the world.
03:01I get the feeling that it's towards yourself at the same time.
03:05It's like inward outward at the same time.
03:07That's my interpretation of it.
03:08It's like you're speaking to yourself at the same time as speaking outwards.
03:15I'm sorry that I want you to feel love.
03:19I'm sorry that I want you to be okay.
03:24I'm sorry that I fear what you think of.
03:27I'm sorry that it's hard when you go away.
03:33I just don't know with that song.
03:34I feel like sometimes it's a bit petty.
03:36If you read it in the right tone, it's like, sorry that I want you to feel good.
03:39Sorry that I want you to be okay.
03:42I'm doing my best here kind of thing.
03:44I feel that sometimes.
03:45Maybe I sense within myself a little bit of anger towards somebody in that.
03:50Again, maybe just the feeling of it hurts to be loved.
03:52I feel love and that's hard.
03:54I want you to be okay and that can be hard in certain situations.
03:58I fear what you think of.
03:59I'm spinning on what somebody else is thinking because I love them.
04:03I'm sorry that it's hard when you go away.
04:05I always just think I'm the one that's always going away.
04:08No, that was like way too much just talking about ourselves.
04:16It's like to hate myself.
04:17No, it was actually interesting.
04:19It's interesting to talk about lyrics.
04:21We don't do it much.
04:22It's like forcing you to think about it and I wouldn't usually, I guess.
04:26Yeah, just cool.
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