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00:00The new season. I think the fans are loving it.
00:03How are you enjoying just watching it back and reliving this experience?
00:07I watch these things back and I'm always like, did I say that?
00:11I don't remember any of that. I'm so, it's like, you know, a whole new,
00:14you know, discovery for me when I watch, cause I remember nothing.
00:18I leave, I come home and I forget all about it.
00:20And I just wipe it out of my brain.
00:23Do you feel like the cast is gelling kind of better than ever now that you
00:26guys are three seasons into the same group of ladies?
00:30Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's easier when you know,
00:34well, the people that you're working with,
00:35like I understand everybody's personality now. I know what, you know,
00:39what they're capable of, how far they're going to go,
00:41how to push their buttons and how to make them laugh. You know,
00:44you understand that of course you gell better when you understand the
00:47personalities around you.
00:48Right. Well, you're not really gelling that well with Adriana. Fair to say.
00:52No, she's not gelling with me. I'm always just like,
00:55where do you feel like the turning point of your relationship was?
01:00Cause I know you guys didn't really stay super close before season four and
01:04then things have gotten kind of worse than ever.
01:06What do you think is the turning point?
01:07Well, we weren't super close before that. She was,
01:10she was always very mysterious, traveled a lot.
01:14Alexi and I were super close. We've been friends since 2001.
01:18And then we would see Lisa here and there.
01:20We were a little closer with Lisa than Adriana. I don't know.
01:24She just decided she just didn't want to be friends with me anymore.
01:28I don't, I don't understand why you need to ask her that question.
01:33I'm usually just on the other end of being blindsided by some kind of crazy
01:37comment or, or anger she has towards me.
01:40Right. Well, I, it seems like her side of the story, obviously, you know,
01:43the two sides, every story,
01:44but her side seems that you guys didn't stay friends with her when she was
01:47going through the divorce and stuff.
01:48What's your response to her saying that?
01:50I mean,
01:50so nobody even knows when she got divorced because in 2016 I was,
01:57um, Oh, sorry. I lost you. Hold on. I, I went to marry.
02:02Oh, are you there? Okay. Um, I was, um,
02:07I saw her and I would say to Alexa, this is way before COVID.
02:10I just saw in the last episode, she said,
02:12she got divorced during COVID and 2015 and 16,
02:16she was traveling the world single.
02:19No one ever saw Frederick again.
02:20And I remember going to London with my then boyfriend who apparently she said
02:24all those things that she said about, um,
02:27I told her to come meet us out. We met out in London.
02:31She was alone and single. She hadn't been with Frederick for years.
02:34So I don't know what she's talking about when she said she had this horrible
02:37divorce.
02:37She was living her own life for many years before that.
02:41I never saw him again after season three.
02:44Right.
02:45And it seems like the timeline of that whole relationship is a little confusing
02:47because didn't they maybe get married before they got married officially?
02:51I mean, uh, you know,
02:53it's all very messy translation and nothing matches up.
02:57So I, you know, I, I, I'm a good friend.
03:00I've been here having my friendship with Alexia and Lisa comes and goes and we
03:05never heard from her.
03:06And that's her story now that we abandoned her.
03:08So ridiculous.
03:09At the start of the season,
03:11you also had a Rocky beginning with Julia and she kind of picked a fight with
03:16you at Alexia's party.
03:17How blindsided were you by that?
03:20Um, well, so in the moment I was kind of laughing on the inside,
03:25but she just kept going and going and going until I snapped.
03:30But you, you kind of only see like a short engagement.
03:33There was a lot of, and I'm like laughing at her and laughing in her face.
03:37And then finally a snap, but, um, um,
03:41Adriana was pretty much sitting on her lap, like a parrot going,
03:45tell her.
03:46I mean, I knew that she, it was so obvious to me.
03:48Okay.
03:49You're going to behave tonight.
03:50So you're going to have Julia do your dirty work.
03:54And so that's why I was laughing.
03:55Like, this is so obvious.
03:56I'm watching this.
03:57You guys are horrible actresses by the way.
04:00Yeah.
04:00Do you feel,
04:01you felt like that was kind of a coordinated attack on both of them against
04:04you?
04:04Of course.
04:05Of course.
04:06That's her,
04:06that's her bestie in the group.
04:09And she comes out of nowhere.
04:10Also,
04:11they have that tactic of coming out of nowhere and picking a fight for no
04:14reason.
04:15It's the,
04:16did it,
04:16did it hurt you that your bestie Alexia kind of didn't stand up for you
04:20publicly in that moment.
04:21And she took a back seat.
04:22Well,
04:23so what I was observing that night,
04:26she was talking to all of us and her back was to the front door and she
04:30kept turning around.
04:31Like every time someone walks through the door,
04:32she would turn around.
04:33I think that she kept thinking Todd was going to walk through the door.
04:36She was very distracted that night because he wasn't there.
04:39And I understood that because I know her so well,
04:42I could read her eyes.
04:43She was physically there,
04:45but mentally she was not there.
04:47So she would this,
04:48no,
04:49I didn't get upset about it.
04:51Have you gotten the full story of why Todd was absent from that party?
04:54Because she says one thing,
04:56Todd says something,
04:56but then Adriana says that he told her that she's not the problem.
05:00And Lisa kind of reiterated that.
05:03Right.
05:03Well,
05:04I only know what he said and he said he didn't want to be in the same room
05:08with her.
05:09And he didn't want her under his roof.
05:10Cause she had made,
05:11you know,
05:12comments about Frankie and he's just not a fan.
05:15Yeah.
05:16Understandable considering that incident last year.
05:20What is your reaction been just about this whole Gertie and Larsa situation?
05:25You know,
05:25Gertie's very upset with Larsa.
05:27Larsa feels like she came up from a good place when she told you and some of
05:30the other women about Gertie's diagnosis.
05:32What's your reaction?
05:33Just how all of this has developed.
05:36I mean,
05:37I didn't know it was going to blow up this bad.
05:40I really didn't.
05:40And Gertie's been really upset about it.
05:45And when I heard the information,
05:47I didn't think it was coming from a place of gossip.
05:50I thought that she just was kind of,
05:52she said to us,
05:53look,
05:53I'm not,
05:54she doesn't want me to say anything,
05:55but I guess she couldn't,
05:57it was becoming too much for her to hold in.
05:59So she shared it with us.
06:01And,
06:01and I didn't think that she mentioned it in a,
06:04in a mean way,
06:05you know,
06:06against Gertie,
06:06but it blew up in a horrific way.
06:08I really didn't expect this to blow up this way.
06:12Yeah.
06:12What do you make of Gertie saying that she was testing Larsa with that
06:17information?
06:19That's wild.
06:20I mean,
06:21I mean,
06:21if you're,
06:22I'm guessing that Gertie knew that Larsa was going to repeat it.
06:26So she set her up to repeat it basically.
06:30Right.
06:30Yeah.
06:31So then essentially I asked myself,
06:33well,
06:33if you know she's going to repeat it,
06:35then why are you so angry that she repeated it?
06:36Cause you knew that she was going to do it.
06:38Yeah.
06:39So much so that you,
06:40you have,
06:40you tested her on it.
06:42The whole thing's been like crazy.
06:44It's crazy.
06:46And why,
06:46why do you feel like Gertie,
06:48you know,
06:48told us some of the women at that point,
06:50then told Larsa,
06:51then waited for some of you,
06:52like,
06:52how do you feel about how she went about spreading the information?
06:55She told the people she felt most comfortable with.
06:58I mean,
06:58I'm not that close to Gertie.
07:00And at that time,
07:01and I mean,
07:02there was Alexia.
07:03And I don't know what her relationship was with Lisa.
07:06So,
07:06and I thought her and Larsa,
07:08I know that her and Larsa were more friendly than Alexia and I were with her.
07:14So I don't know.
07:15I guess she just did it.
07:17However it felt best for her.
07:20Yeah.
07:20Who of the newbies do you think you've gotten closest with of Gertie,
07:24Paul,
07:25Julia and Kiki?
07:29Well,
07:30since the first season and the last three seasons,
07:34it's been Kiki,
07:35Kiki the most.
07:36And you'll have to watch to see what develops.
07:40It's been fun.
07:41With other new girls.
07:41It's been fun seeing Kiki have a bigger role.
07:44Yeah.
07:45Yeah.
07:46Yeah.
07:46She kind of was always a little down because they didn't use her that much.
07:52And so I felt like we all like Alexia and Larsa and I kind of took her in
07:56and gave her a lot of advice and told her,
07:58you know,
07:58how to,
07:59how to be and not be afraid and be a little more assertive.
08:02And now,
08:02you know,
08:03we've created a monster.
08:04Right.
08:05As you can see.
08:06He's coming hot and hot next week.
08:08It looks like.
08:09Yeah,
08:09totally.
08:10Where do you feel about Lisa certainly repeats Lenny's name a lot around
08:17Jody.
08:18How do you feel just as her friend about her doing that a lot?
08:21Cause it seems like some of the women have had it up to here maybe.
08:24Well,
08:25I,
08:25I just,
08:26I,
08:26you know,
08:27Lisa's in a,
08:28in a,
08:28in a very,
08:29you know,
08:31in an optimal situation,
08:32if that's the word to use,
08:33that she actually found somebody so quickly and was really caring and
08:38loving.
08:38A lot of women have to go through that alone.
08:41It's really hard.
08:43And so she's got this great guy and he's very supportive and I want her to
08:46preserve that.
08:48I think we're all coming from that place of,
08:50you know,
08:51Gertie and I both told her,
08:53you know what,
08:53why don't you talk to a therapist and unload everything on the therapist
08:58or call us unload on all of us.
09:00And so then maybe when you go home,
09:02you don't feel like you have to say and explain and share everything with
09:05Jody.
09:05Cause you want,
09:06we want you to do,
09:07you know,
09:08preserve this relationship.
09:10And,
09:10and we wanted to have longevity because we want,
09:13you know,
09:13what's best and healthy for you.
09:15And he seems like a really good,
09:17great guy.
09:18But like I said before,
09:19you don't want to tire someone out and,
09:22you know,
09:22he's going to want things to be about him because it needs to be about him.
09:26He needs to feel loved also.
09:28And,
09:29and,
09:29and,
09:30and nurtured.
09:31So.
09:32Yeah.
09:32Yeah.
09:33I think I'm,
09:34I think I'm,
09:34I'm trying to give her good advice.
09:36I'm trying.
09:37Yeah.
09:38No,
09:38I think you're making sense.
09:40I think it's always a telltale sign when someone has to keep talking about
09:43something.
09:43It's clear that it's,
09:44they're not over it.
09:45They haven't processed it.
09:46And it is a dramatic situation for Lisa.
09:49So I do think for professionals probably.
09:53Well,
09:53yeah.
09:54Like if you just want to bend and get it off your chest,
09:56do it with anybody and everybody,
09:58but your partner,
10:00and maybe only share certain things with him,
10:02maybe ask him for his opinion on how should I handle this and make him feel
10:06like he's needed more than a sounding board.
10:09I don't know.
10:10Just.
10:11You know,
10:12I'm talking out loud here with you.
10:13I agree.
10:14You got to relay this message to her because I actually think it's some wise
10:18advice from you.
10:19I did.
10:20I did.
10:21But she was like,
10:22I don't want to talk about it.
10:23Yeah.
10:24Yeah.
10:26How are you enjoying having Marcus Jordan on the show and just being around
10:30him and Larsa?
10:32Marcus.
10:33Oh my God.
10:34He's so nice.
10:35He's the best.
10:36Have you met him?
10:37No.
10:38Have you done an interview with him?
10:40No,
10:40at BravoCon,
10:41but I didn't have a chance to talk to them,
10:42you know,
10:43together.
10:43He is just so lovely and cool and chill and nice.
10:48We're the same Zodiac sign.
10:50Me and him.
10:50So every time I see him like,
10:51what's up,
10:51Cappy?
10:52And they're like really good together.
10:55He looks like he's madly in love with her.
10:57And she's just,
10:58you know,
10:59floating around in the heavens.
11:01Like,
11:02like he's her God.
11:03They're just really good together.
11:04This means your birthday is coming up now.
11:07Yeah.
11:07Yeah.
11:07I'm the ninth.
11:08And I think he's New Year's Eve.
11:10I think.
11:10I don't remember.
11:11Happy early birthday,
11:12Mirosal.
11:13How are you celebrating?
11:15I'm going to be in Switzerland.
11:16We're leaving for three weeks.
11:17So I'll be there with my husband.
11:19Oh,
11:20beautiful.
11:21Where are you?
11:21I've been to Switzerland.
11:22Where are you going?
11:23We're going to Zurich and St.
11:25Moritz.
11:26Okay.
11:27Awesome.
11:27Awesome.
11:28My husband's mother's Swiss.
11:31Oh.
11:32Amazing.
11:33It's exciting.
11:34Yeah.
11:35I've never been.
11:36Yeah.
11:36I've only done Interlochen,
11:38but it's beautiful there.
11:39Very,
11:39very pretty.
11:40What else can you tease about what's coming up for this season?
11:44What fans are going to witness?
11:45A lot of crazy arguments.
11:51I felt like every time I walked into a scene,
11:54everybody was screaming about something.
11:56There was always something chaotic happening.
11:58I came home with a migraine every day.
12:01Every time I got together with the group,
12:03I would come home in the room with my husband would come home.
12:05He's like,
12:06why are you laying in the dark?
12:07I'm like,
12:07don't turn any lights on.
12:08I have a blistering migraine.
12:10Everybody was screaming today.
12:12There's a lot of chaos and disagreements.
12:16And then there's a lot of fun too.
12:18Yeah.
12:18That's the mix of Miami that I think the fans love is there is fun.
12:23There is drama.
12:24And you women are all genuinely friends for the most part.
12:27That's what.
12:27Yeah.
12:28Yeah.
12:29Yeah.
12:29Yeah.
12:30How are you enjoying just being a third season and as a friend?
12:33Do you mind the role?
12:34I mean,
12:34you're,
12:34you're a friend of,
12:35but like you're a main character.
12:37I feel like.
12:38Yeah.
12:39I don't even think of myself as I'm this role or that role.
12:44I just,
12:44I do it.
12:46I show up.
12:47I have a lot of fun doing it.
12:48I really enjoy what I do.
12:49And,
12:49you know,
12:50I don't think about what I'm not.
12:52I'm just,
12:52I'm just living in the moment,
12:54trying to have a good time.
12:55Yeah.
12:56And I feel very blessed that I get to do this.
12:58Cause I,
12:58I really do enjoy doing it.
13:00Yeah.
13:01And it's a lot of fun to watch.
13:02My last question.
13:03How was your experience at Bravo con?
13:04Who did you bond with?
13:06Who did you meet that you had never met before that you enjoyed?
13:09Oh,
13:09right.
13:10Um,
13:10I had a great time.
13:11Um,
13:12you know,
13:13uh,
13:14two people that I had not met before that.
13:17I really liked a lot where,
13:18um,
13:19crystal Minkoff.
13:20She was very sweet,
13:21very lovely.
13:22And,
13:22um,
13:24Heather Dubrow.
13:25Yeah.
13:25Heather's great.
13:26Cool.
13:27Yeah.
13:27We got a lot.
13:28She's Capricorn too.
13:28I think you and Heather would throw a great combined party.
13:32Cause I've been to a Heather Dubrow party in New York city.
13:34And she's a great friend.
13:36So I think you guys throw a good party together.
13:38Yeah.
13:39Yeah.
13:39Well,
13:39I used to throw parties for a living.
13:40I love doing parties.
13:42I do like over the top stuff,
13:44not my gay brunch.
13:45I'm going to,
13:45I'm going to polish that up.
13:47It's going to be better next year.
13:48That's fine.
13:49Except half the,
13:49half the cells didn't get an invite.
13:51No,
13:52no.
13:52Well,
13:53I mean,
13:54two nights before Julia's arguing with me,
13:56she was supposed to come to gay brunch.
13:58That's obvious.
13:58Right.
13:59But I thought,
13:59well,
13:59that's not going to work.
14:01And I don't want to get your Hannah there.
14:02So that kind of,
14:03you know,
14:05Yeah.
14:05Cut it in half.
14:07Oh.
14:08And then also,
14:08cause I'm just remembering,
14:09um,
14:09have you spoken to Nicole since her dad passed?
14:11That was shocking.
14:12I can't believe.
14:13Yeah.
14:14I know that was,
14:15that was sudden and unexpected.
14:18Um,
14:18I texted with her.
14:19Yeah.
14:19I texted with her and,
14:21you know,
14:21obviously said,
14:23you know,
14:24my mom had a stroke and was,
14:26um,
14:27incapacitated for very,
14:29very,
14:29very,
14:29very,
14:30very long time.
14:31Anyway,
14:31I said,
14:32you know what?
14:32She's up there waiting for him.
14:35She's going to take care of him because she loved crazy people and
14:37they're going to have cocktails together.
14:39Trust me.
14:39We had a nice exchange.
14:41Yeah.
14:41Good.
14:42Yeah.
14:42I know your mom's definitely up there having some cockies watching,
14:45watching all of the craziness in Miami unfolds.
14:47Oh,
14:47she comes with me to film all the time.
14:50And she was with me at Bravo con.
14:52People were coming up to me saying,
14:53I feel your mother here.
14:54People were dressed like my mother.
14:56I was,
14:57um,
14:58I was just telling someone else that in the morning I would have my
15:01makeup done every morning with the same team as Dorinda.
15:05Dorinda one morning said to me,
15:06I jumped with your mother last night.
15:08And I said,
15:08she's got to be here.
15:09Everyone keeps talking to me about her.
15:11She must be here.
15:12You know,
15:13she's not going to miss any kind of celebrity gathering.
15:16Okay.
15:16Okay.
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