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00:00To journalists at Comedy Central, it's America's only source for news.
00:05This is The Daily Show with your host, Ronnie Chang.
00:24Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Ronnie Chang.
00:27We got so much to talk about tonight.
00:29You can upload your grandma to the cloud now.
00:31Someone paid for expedited shipping on the Epstein files.
00:34And Trump and MBS do hand stuff.
00:37So, let's get into the headlines.
00:44Yesterday was a big day at the White House
00:46because Donald Trump got to have a play date with Mohammed bin Salman,
00:50the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia,
00:52an all-around great guy who definitely doesn't hold a grudge
00:54and I, Ronnie Chang, have no problems with.
00:59And the two of them couldn't keep Trump's hand off each other.
01:02We've worked with all presidents.
01:03Does Trump blow them all away?
01:06Son of the league, Mr. President.
01:10And Trump doesn't give a fist pump.
01:14I grabbed that hand.
01:15I don't give a hell where that hand's been.
01:17I grabbed that hand.
01:22What the hell was that?
01:24That was the worst handshake I've ever seen.
01:27That was like the 9-11 of handshakes.
01:29And, once again, Saudi Arabia is involved?
01:33Okay.
01:34And, Trump, why are you wondering where his hand has been?
01:37You're the one whose hand is decomposing.
01:40I mean...
01:40Now, you might be wondering,
01:43wait, how is Donald Trump best friends with MBS?
01:46Isn't Trump the Muslim ban guy?
01:49Didn't he just spend a month calling Zoramandani a terrorist?
01:51Well, the difference is that Zoramandani is a Shia Muslim
01:56whose family comes from Uganda by way of India,
01:58whereas MBS is giving Trump money.
02:02The Trump Organization already has multiple projects in Saudi Arabia,
02:05including Trump Towers in Jeddah and Riyadh
02:08and a Trump Plaza in the works.
02:10In the last year alone, the Trump Organization's Saudi partner
02:13pumping more than $20 million into the family business.
02:17Wow.
02:18Three Trump Towers in Saudi Arabia?
02:20See? America can up your skyline, too.
02:23But enough about collusion between global elites.
02:27Let's move on to the Epstein files.
02:29Yeah!
02:32Where my ep heads at?
02:36Just me.
02:37Uh...
02:38Yesterday, a House of Representatives voted to release the files
02:42thanks to brave Republicans like Nancy Mace,
02:44who was very clear about not being a part of the Epstein network.
02:48The Epstein email suggests that, in fact,
02:51there is a widespread code among people with power and money
02:54who support one another.
02:56Does that exist in Washington?
03:00I...
03:00Oh, I'm not part of the powerful.
03:02I'm not part of the elite.
03:03I'm an island of one.
03:04I don't get invited to parties.
03:06I don't have any friends.
03:07I have a dog.
03:08Wait, are you...
03:13Are you fishing for an invite to the sex party?
03:17Like, why did you make not being a part of a pedophile ring sound so sad?
03:21Like...
03:22There's a middle ground between Epstein Island and friendless loser.
03:27Like...
03:28Walk the middle path.
03:30Um...
03:31I mean, she doesn't go to parties.
03:33She doesn't have friends.
03:34She does have a dog.
03:36But after a day with her, even the dog's like,
03:38where's Christine Noam when you need her?
03:42But thanks to these Republicans,
03:44the House voted to release the Epstein files.
03:48And I just cannot believe this is gonna happen.
03:51Trump has been trying to stop us from seeing these files for months now.
03:55I mean, they must have some plan to drag this thing out.
03:59House Speaker Mike Johnson says he expects the Senate to amend the bill,
04:02which would then send it back to the House.
04:04Of course.
04:06That's the plan.
04:08Yeah, it's obvious.
04:09They're gonna let it pass the House
04:11because they know it'll go to the Senate,
04:13a.k.a. where the legislation and senators go to die.
04:16Breaking tonight in Washington, D.C.,
04:18the Senate has unanimously agreed to pass the bill
04:21to release the Epstein files.
04:23Wait, what?
04:25Hang on, hang on.
04:27Wait, how?
04:29How the did it pass this fast?
04:31I thought a bill in the Senate had to go through amendments
04:34and committees and floor votes
04:36and Mitch McConnell's neck folds.
04:39And they have to add some unrelated earmarks
04:41that somehow make Lindsey Graham millions of dollars.
04:44Like, how'd they get around all that?
04:46Senate Democrats pressured their Republican counterparts
04:49to pass the Epstein files transparency act
04:52by something that's called unanimous consent.
04:54Meaning the Senate accepts the House version
04:57of the bill as written.
04:59Wait, you can do that?
05:02Unanimous consent?
05:03Well, then why don't you do that with every bill?
05:06I mean, does it only work on bills with Epstein's name?
05:09In that case, we might need to pass
05:11the Jeffrey Epstein Universal Health Care Epstein Act
05:14featuring Jeffrey Epstein.
05:22No, don't...
05:24Why are you cheering Jeffrey Epstein?
05:30But back to this bill.
05:31There's no way they're gonna let this pass, okay?
05:34Yeah, it got through the House and Senate,
05:36but I'm sure Donald Trump will veto this bill
05:39as soon as it reaches his desk.
05:41President Donald Trump says he's ready to sign the bill
05:43as soon as it reaches his desk.
05:46Wait, my God, what the hell is happening here?
05:49Is Trump really gonna release the Epstein files?
05:51He's not gonna burn them or hide them
05:53or put them on Barron's head so no one can reach them?
05:57I can't believe this.
05:59Look, there's just no way that this man
06:01is gonna release the Epstein files that he is in.
06:04I mean, he must have a plan to get out of this.
06:06We should note, the legislation as it stands
06:09clearly says, quote,
06:10Yeah, there we go.
06:28See?
06:28That's how they're gonna keep these files secret.
06:31National security.
06:32America's go-to justification.
06:34It stops us from bringing shampoo on a plane,
06:36it puts terrorists on bananas,
06:38and soon it can prevent you from seeing
06:40if the president is a pedophile.
06:42And by the time Pam Bondi is done with these files,
06:45they'll be more censored
06:46than the airplane version of Enora.
06:48Now, I'm not saying we'll never see the Epstein files.
06:53I'm not saying we will.
06:54All I'm saying is we need to find other clues
06:58that the president inappropriately touches people.
07:01All right?
07:02Now, for more on the release of the Epstein files,
07:05we go live to the DOJ with Jordan Klepper.
07:12Klepper.
07:14Klepper.
07:15How close are we to seeing these files?
07:18Well, Ronnie, it looks like these files
07:19might be released next week,
07:21but we're all praying our hardest
07:23that something happens to delay that outcome.
07:28What?
07:29What?
07:29What do you mean?
07:30Like, I want to know who the perverts are.
07:33Do you, Ronnie?
07:35You think you do?
07:36We all talk a big game about wanting to know
07:38who all the pervs are,
07:40but then you find out it's America's sweetheart,
07:43economist Larry Summers,
07:44and you're devastated.
07:47I mean, was he my favorite economist?
07:49No, but top three for sure.
07:51Dude, who gives a shit about Larry Summers?
07:54You're telling me you're not into Larry Summers?
07:57Not even his early stuff?
07:59I mean, his Clinton-era treasury meetings
08:01redefined the genre, man.
08:03But now, I feel gross even looking
08:06at inflation numbers from the mid-'90s.
08:10Klepper, separate the art from the artist, okay?
08:13And no one gives a shit about Larry Summers.
08:15It's not just Larry Summers.
08:18Epstein had a lot of friends,
08:19and we haven't thought through
08:20how wide his network was.
08:22I mean, what if...
08:23What if Dolly Parton's in there?
08:25You want me and my wife
08:27to stop singing Islands in the stream at karaoke?
08:30It's the only thing holding my marriage together!
08:33I mean, what if...
08:33What if one of your favorite people
08:35was on Epstein Island?
08:36Give me someone you love.
08:38Oh, I'm-I'm pretty dead inside,
08:39but, uh, if you force me to say something,
08:43I guess I do love the Muppets.
08:45Okay. All right.
08:46What if...
08:47What if Kermit the Frog is in the Epstein files?
08:50You think it's not easy being green?
08:51Try being publicly outed as a pedophile.
08:56Jordan, please don't ruin the Muppets for me.
08:58Let me tell you
08:59about having things ruined for you, Ronnie.
09:03Years ago, every Thanksgiving,
09:05I would sit down
09:06with my favorite Jared Fogel-approved turkey sandwich,
09:09crap, coconut,
09:11a big Jell-O pudding pop,
09:12and I'd watch Matt Lauer host the parade
09:15and wait for the big Kevin Spacey balloon.
09:19But...
09:19No! No!
09:22Now I gotta eat turkey with my family
09:24and watch Savannah Guthrie host the parade.
09:27Do you have any idea how that is, man?
09:31Okay. Okay.
09:32That sounds terrible.
09:33I agree.
09:34But these rich, famous people
09:36shouldn't be protected
09:37just because they happen to have fans.
09:39It's not just some people.
09:40This is every perv everywhere
09:42all at once.
09:44It's gonna destroy the country.
09:46The banks go under.
09:47The economy collapses.
09:49I have to go back to my job
09:50waiting tables at P.F. Chang's.
09:52I'm not doing that, Ronnie.
09:53I'm not spending every Saturday
09:55walking up to 14-year-olds
09:56talk-rapping,
09:57I'm P.F. Chang,
09:58and I'm here to say
09:59I hope you have a Chang-tastic birthday.
10:01No!
10:02Okay.
10:03No!
10:03No.
10:04Jordan.
10:05It's not gonna happen!
10:06It's not gonna happen!
10:07Okay.
10:08Jordan,
10:09I...
10:09Look, I know there might be
10:10some short-term pain,
10:12but it will let us do the work
10:13of rebuilding a society
10:14from the ground up
10:15that doesn't put us
10:16under the rule
10:16of elite perverts.
10:19That sounds like a lot more work
10:20than just not releasing the files.
10:22Yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:23Yeah, actually, you're right.
10:23I got tired just saying that, yeah.
10:25Jordan Klepper, everybody.
10:28When we come back,
10:29we find the latest in tech,
10:30so don't go away.
10:49Welcome back to The Daily Show.
10:51Technology will one day kill us all.
10:53But until then,
10:55it's pretty cool.
10:56To find out more,
10:57we turn to Grace Koolensmith
10:58in our ongoing segment,
10:59Tech Yeah!
11:14What's up,
11:15my techno nerds?
11:16I'm Grace Koolensmith,
11:18a.k.a.
11:19Koolen Tech,
11:19a.k.a.
11:20Gracie Gizmos,
11:21a.k.a.
11:22Lil Wire Fraud.
11:23This is Tech Yeah!
11:25Where I tell CPU
11:27all about the biggest stories in tech.
11:30And to our future robot overlords watching,
11:33I say,
11:34ba-da-ba-bee,
11:35ba-ba-ba-da-bo,
11:36ba-da-ba-ba-da-bo.
11:38I can say that
11:39because I slept with one robot.
11:42But let's hop into warp speed
11:45and fly over to Russia
11:46for the release of a robot
11:47that'll blow your tech in mind.
11:50Russia's first humanoid AI robot
11:53made its debut in Moscow this week,
11:55and it definitely did not go as planned.
11:57That's so techin' cool!
12:06Finally,
12:07a robot that feels like a real person
12:10because I also have a drinking problem.
12:14And it's not the robot's fault.
12:16He fell.
12:16He took 27 shots of machine oil.
12:20You should see me after three.
12:22I'm literally in the hospital bi-monthly
12:25because the human body
12:26cannot handle machine oil.
12:29I was in a coma for weeks.
12:33And for all the people worried
12:36about robots taking our jobs,
12:38relax!
12:40For every job this robot takes,
12:42they have to hire two guys
12:44to pick it up off the ground.
12:45Sometimes, I get sad
12:53that I'll miss out on the robots
12:55taking over our planet.
12:57But good news,
12:58here's something that'll keep us
12:59technophiles alive for techin' ever.
13:02A tech company offering an app
13:04that allows you to keep a grandparent
13:06or other loved one alive for generations.
13:09To create a digital granny,
13:11you record three minutes of video
13:12while they are still alive.
13:14The AI app copies their image,
13:17mannerisms, and voice.
13:19Hey, Charlie.
13:20How was school today?
13:21It was really fun.
13:22I made this crazy shot in basketball.
13:23I don't really care that much
13:25about basketball.
13:27Yes!
13:28This is awesome!
13:35She tells me to shut up
13:38about my interests
13:39just like a real grandma.
13:41I can't wait for my grandma to die
13:44so I can turn her soul into data.
13:47And yeah, maybe you're nervous
13:49to have grandma live on the same device
13:51you watch porn on.
13:52But next time you're struggling
13:54to pick a category,
13:55your grandma can chime in like,
13:58Grace, anime MILFs with big naturals
14:01are a family tradition.
14:04Carry it on!
14:06Love you, Gigi.
14:09But the most beautiful part
14:17of this technology
14:18is that it lets you say things
14:20to your dead relatives
14:21that you regret not saying
14:22while they were alive.
14:24Like, I'm sorry
14:25I unplugged your ventilator
14:27to charge my phone.
14:30And I'm sorry
14:31I kept charging my phone
14:32so I could post about you dying.
14:34And I'm sorry
14:36for deleting the post
14:37after it didn't get enough likes.
14:40I just wish this technology
14:42was around a few years ago
14:44so my grandpa could
14:45have attended my wedding.
14:47People said our love
14:49wouldn't last
14:50because she's a robot
14:51and I'm white.
14:53But love conquers all.
14:56And finally,
14:57all this new technology
14:58is so tech and beautiful
15:00it makes me want to sing.
15:02But luckily,
15:03AI can do it for me.
15:05He's a ruggedly handsome
15:06country singer
15:07with a strong voice
15:08destined for stardom.
15:10Ain't no shame
15:12in where I belong.
15:15Well, hold on
15:16to your cowboy hat.
15:17He's 100%
15:18all AI generated.
15:21His name is Breaking Rust
15:23and now his song
15:24Walk My Walk
15:25is number one
15:26on Billboard's
15:28country digital song
15:29sales chart.
15:31I am shocked
15:32a guy named Breaking Rust
15:34isn't real.
15:36That makes him
15:37so much hotter.
15:39I've been throwing
15:39my panties at my computer
15:41just to get his attention.
15:42This is exactly
15:44what country music
15:45is all about.
15:47Dirt roads,
15:48blue jeans,
15:49and decimating
15:50the power grid
15:51out of a small
15:51midwestern town.
15:54Yeehaw!
15:55And I know
15:56you're probably wondering,
15:57can this technology
15:58write a song
15:59about anything?
16:00Yes.
16:01Just how easy
16:02is it to create
16:02a song completely
16:04generated by
16:05AI intelligence?
16:06What I'm going to do
16:07is create a song
16:08about the TV show
16:09Inside Edition
16:10simply by typing in here
16:12make a song
16:13about the TV show
16:14Inside Edition.
16:17Inside Edition
16:19This is literally
16:32the song I make love to.
16:34You wouldn't believe
16:35how horny I am right now.
16:38Now, I know
16:39some of you
16:40might be thinking,
16:41wow, I do not like
16:42the idea of AI
16:43replacing human creativity
16:45with digital slop.
16:46And that's a good point.
16:48but here's a counterpoint.
16:50Inside Edition
16:52Shining the light
16:55Well, that's all the time
17:01we have on Tech Yeah.
17:02See you next time
17:04where I'll teach you
17:05how to turn any car
17:06into a driverless car
17:08by simply letting go
17:09of the steering wheel.
17:10I know.
17:16Where's Cool Internet
17:17everyone?
17:18When we come back
17:18Chef Sean Sherman
17:19will be joining me
17:20on the show.
17:20Don't go away.
17:21Inside Edition
17:23Welcome back to a daily show.
17:42My guest tonight
17:43is a James Beard
17:44award-winning chef
17:45whose new book
17:46is called Turtle Island.
17:48Foods and Traditions
17:49of the Indigenous Peoples
17:50of North America.
17:50Please welcome
17:51Chef Sean Sherman.
18:13Welcome, Chef.
18:15Thanks for coming.
18:15My first time meeting you
18:18but I ate at a restaurant
18:19years ago in Minneapolis
18:21and I remember walking in
18:24and I passed by
18:25and it was a Native American
18:26restaurant
18:27serving Native American
18:28cuisine
18:29and I remember going
18:30I have never seen
18:31this before in America
18:32which is really sad
18:34and me going and eat it
18:35and it was amazing.
18:36What was the
18:37why aren't there
18:39more Native American restaurants?
18:40It's a long story
18:41and we talk a lot about that
18:43but you know
18:44it's unfortunate
18:45that Native American restaurants
18:47are so rare
18:48in Native America
18:49and so a lot of this work
18:51was really trying to
18:52you know
18:53showcase that this was possible
18:54that we could have
18:55a modern Indigenous restaurant
18:56you know
18:57and we have a lot of values
18:58we try to purchase
18:59from Indigenous producers
19:00as much as we can
19:01we change very seasonally
19:02the restaurant's owned
19:04by a non-profit
19:05you know
19:05so we hire a lot of
19:06Native workers with us
19:08and we have an amazing staff
19:09we move a lot of money
19:11towards those Indigenous producers
19:12and we're just kind of showcasing
19:14because we never want to be
19:15stuck in the past
19:16you know
19:16we don't want to
19:17we've been through
19:17all this erasure
19:18we've been through
19:19all this misunderstanding
19:19but there's so much beauty here
19:22and you know
19:22there's you know
19:23the food really kind of
19:24speaks for itself.
19:25Absolutely
19:25and I mean
19:26the thing that struck me
19:27was some of the hallmarks
19:28of your interpretation
19:30of Native American food
19:31there's certain
19:32no's in the restaurant
19:34that you don't have
19:34which I found interesting.
19:36Absolutely
19:36because basically
19:37the philosophy was
19:38in order to showcase
19:39and highlight
19:40modern Indigenous foods
19:41in Native America
19:42we cut out
19:43European colonial ingredients
19:45that European immigrants
19:46had brought over
19:47so there's no dairy
19:48no wheat flour
19:48no cane sugar
19:49no beef, pork, and chicken
19:51no jello
19:52no jello
19:52no ranch dressing
19:53no ranch dressing
19:54we won a James Beard award
19:56for best restaurant in the U.S.
19:57without ranch dressing
19:58yeah
19:58well
20:02yeah
20:03that's good
20:04you beat
20:04you beat the white people
20:05at their own war
20:06it's true
20:07it's true
20:07yeah but I mean
20:09no ranch dressing
20:10in Minneapolis
20:10yeah
20:11how do you get people
20:12in the door
20:12oh well
20:13they're coming
20:14we've been sold out
20:15every night since we opened
20:15in 21
20:16yeah it's impossible
20:17yeah it's impossible
20:18to get in
20:18I had to
20:20I had to pull strings
20:22to try to have lunch there
20:23but that's also
20:24kind of what's cool
20:25is that you give people
20:26kind of a rally point
20:27because I think
20:27there's a lot of people
20:28out there
20:28who probably want to
20:29support Native American things
20:30yeah
20:31and there's no
20:31there's no outlet
20:33to do it
20:34and the restaurant
20:35um
20:36I probably said
20:37Owamny
20:37Owamny yeah
20:38Owamny
20:39is a great place
20:40where it's a great rally point
20:41where it's like
20:42oh I want to support
20:43not just Native American
20:44culture and people
20:46you know
20:46I actually want to try
20:47what this is
20:48and you can just go there
20:49and try it
20:50absolutely
20:50I mean it's very tangible
20:51and you know
20:52people can experience
20:53this philosophy
20:54and we're pushing
20:55healthy food
20:55because like
20:56everything in the restaurant
20:57is gluten free
20:58dairy free
20:58sugar free
20:59soy free
20:59pork free
21:00you know
21:00and it's just because
21:01that's just the philosophy
21:02of how we're cooking
21:03and we're normalizing
21:04not only indigenous foods
21:05but eating healthier
21:06a lot more plant diversity
21:07a lot more protein diversity
21:09and just kind of showcasing
21:11what's possible
21:11you know
21:12and plus we're looking
21:12at all of North America
21:13from Mexico through Alaska
21:14which kind of reflected
21:15in this book
21:16that we just put out
21:17but like we see
21:18like this whole situation
21:19because these borders
21:20crossed us
21:21you know
21:21and it's silly
21:22that we're seeing
21:23like so much demonization
21:24of people
21:24because they're coming
21:25from south of the border
21:26and they're speaking Spanish
21:27but English is also
21:29a foreign language
21:30in North America
21:30right
21:31yeah
21:32I mean just back
21:38back on that idea
21:39of eating healthy
21:40it feels like
21:42we kind of
21:42as a species
21:43humans
21:44we kind of know
21:45more about nutrition
21:46than ever before
21:47I think
21:48and
21:48everyone
21:50you know
21:51is trying to eat healthier now
21:52and it feels like
21:53Native American food
21:54just fits perfectly
21:55into that mindset
21:56absolutely
21:56I mean there's so much
21:57plant diversity again
21:58it's low carbs
21:59it's just a lot of
22:00minerals and nutrients
22:01there's a lot of
22:02this protein diversity
22:03it's not over processed food
22:05by any means
22:06you know
22:06because these aren't
22:07the foods that I grew up with
22:08because I grew up on a reservation
22:09so I'm from Pine Ridge Reservation
22:10which is third largest reservation
22:12it's in South Dakota
22:13you know
22:14and we have horrible statistics
22:15you know
22:16we have really high rates
22:17of type 2 diabetes
22:18obesity
22:18heart disease
22:19our unemployment rates
22:21are like
22:21through the roof
22:22you know
22:23they're probably over 70%
22:24still today
22:25and so there's a lot
22:26of issues out there
22:27and that's what we're
22:27trying to address
22:28is because
22:29as indigenous peoples
22:30we've been
22:30you know
22:31not only
22:32lost a lot of our land spaces
22:34but we've
22:34so much of our culture
22:35was stripped from us
22:36which is a big reason
22:37why we don't see
22:37Native restaurants everywhere
22:39you know
22:39and so there's a lot of work
22:41and the power of food
22:42is really important
22:43because it's a huge voice
22:44that we all understand
22:45we all eat
22:46we all can understand food
22:47force multiplier
22:47for you
22:48yeah yeah
22:49and I just think
22:49that it's just gonna
22:50it's something that
22:51pulls us together
22:52and it makes people curious
22:53and it you know
22:53helps put a little empathy
22:55into things
22:55for people to think about
22:57why don't we have
22:58more Native food out there
22:59why don't we have
22:59more Native restaurants
23:00out there
23:01and what can we do
23:02to make that happen
23:02yes
23:03and so getting to
23:04I guess this crowd
23:05doesn't support
23:06what you just said
23:06but um
23:07but they uh
23:08they
23:09I know
23:10the colonizer crowd
23:13so um
23:15but let's talk
23:16but that brings me
23:17to your book
23:17yeah yeah
23:18which is that
23:18uh it's a book
23:19about Native American cuisine
23:20yep
23:21and what's interesting
23:22which I feel
23:23uh
23:24it's kind of
23:25uh
23:26a burden on you
23:27is that you
23:28one man
23:29from Pine Ridge
23:30is forced to kind of
23:31represent
23:32all of Native America
23:33here
23:33and you do a good job
23:35of it
23:36you go to different regions
23:37it's split up
23:37all the different regions
23:39on Turtle Island
23:40yeah yeah
23:40which is the North American
23:41continent
23:41absolutely
23:41you talk a little bit
23:42about each region
23:44and um
23:45the cuisine there
23:46the type of people
23:47how they live there
23:47uh how difficult
23:49was it to kind of
23:50gather
23:50the information
23:51for this book
23:52because it's not just
23:53it was immense amount
23:54of work
23:54and you know
23:55and it was
23:55it took a community
23:56to put this together
23:57you know
23:58so the two co-authors
23:59with Kate Nelson
24:00and Kristen Donnelly
24:01we all played
24:01a certain role
24:02through helping
24:02to put this all together
24:03but we also
24:04reached out
24:05to this massive network
24:06all over Turtle Island
24:07you know
24:07in Mexico
24:07in the U.S.
24:08in Canada
24:09up in Alaska
24:09and just talk to people
24:11to really get
24:12their perspectives
24:12you know
24:13so it wasn't me
24:14trying to mansplain
24:15everybody's native foods
24:16out there
24:16but it was really
24:17just allowing these voices
24:18to come through
24:19to talk about it
24:20and showcasing all
24:20of this massive diversity
24:22because there's so much
24:22to talk about
24:23you know
24:23and there's so little
24:25that people know
24:26about Native America
24:27in you know
24:28across the United States
24:29and a lot of that's
24:29because of our
24:30colonial U.S. history books
24:32that teach us nothing
24:33about indigenous peoples
24:34you know
24:34and there's so much
24:35to learn
24:36and there's so much
24:36knowledge about
24:37the plant usage
24:38for medicine
24:38for food
24:39for crafting
24:40and there's just
24:42so much diversity
24:43to explore out there
24:44and there's also
24:45obviously the environmental angle
24:47absolutely
24:47because it's just
24:48like indigenous people
24:49had the blueprint
24:50to live sustainably
24:51anywhere
24:51you know
24:52like pick a space
24:52around the world
24:53and so because we had
24:54you know
24:54thousands and thousands
24:55of generations
24:56of knowledge
24:57of what to do
24:57with the world around us
24:59with the plants
24:59and how to live
25:00sustainably around there
25:01there's a lot
25:01of amazing lessons
25:02that we could pull
25:03because really
25:04this isn't just
25:04about Native Americans
25:05in America
25:06this is looking at
25:07indigenous peoples
25:08and we can apply
25:08this anywhere
25:09this could be
25:09South America
25:10Africa
25:10India
25:11Southeast Asia
25:11Australia
25:12New Zealand
25:13because we can just
25:14like dismantle colonization
25:15and the values
25:16that that brought
25:16and really focus
25:17on like this massive
25:18global intellect
25:19and knowledge
25:20knowledge base
25:21of indigenous peoples
25:22of being sustainable
25:23with the world around us
25:24and all this diversity
25:25of food and culture
25:26that's out there
25:26and also what's cool
25:34about your restaurant
25:36and recipes here
25:36I think your interpretation
25:37of Native American food
25:38to me is that
25:39it's not like
25:40and you make a point
25:41of this at the start
25:41of the book
25:42is that you're not
25:43trying for historical
25:44accuracy here
25:45we're not a museum
25:46so
25:46right
25:46you're not trying
25:47to eat what they ate
25:48back then
25:48for me it's almost like
25:50it's like
25:51if Native American
25:52culture
25:53have been allowed
25:53to
25:54yeah
25:55to modernize
25:56to modernize
25:56to today
25:57if it had been
25:58allowed to develop
25:59this is the outcome
26:00absolutely
26:01because we have
26:01this moment now
26:02that we can evolve
26:03all of our food
26:04moving forward
26:04so for me
26:05this is a book
26:05for the future
26:06because I feel
26:06like I'm a futurist
26:07like I'm seeing
26:08a better way
26:09that we can
26:10celebrate diversity
26:11not try to homogenize it
26:12we can understand
26:13how to live closer
26:14we can have a lot
26:14more plant diversity
26:15you know
26:16and stop
26:16you know
26:17calling everything a weed
26:18but starting to learn
26:18the names of everything
26:19you know
26:20I always tease
26:20that kids can name
26:22more Kardashians
26:22than tree species
26:23because our education
26:25system sucks
26:25you know
26:26and there's so much
26:27more that we can do
26:28that's not fair
26:33some of these trees
26:34are called Kim
26:34I'm not sure
26:35I'm not sure
26:36I'm confused
26:37but yeah
26:38all the recipes
26:38in here look beautiful
26:39and just in time
26:41for Thanksgiving
26:43I guess
26:44well
26:47I don't know
26:52I don't know about you
26:52but I didn't grow up
26:53with Thanksgiving
26:54I feel nothing
26:56about Thanksgiving
26:57if you tell
26:58I mean
26:59how are Native Americans
27:01you know
27:02well I mean
27:02how do they deal
27:04with this
27:04onslaught of Thanksgiving
27:06I have a lot
27:07of friends and family
27:08that don't celebrate
27:08at all
27:09you know
27:09and just completely ignore
27:11it because it is
27:11very damaging
27:12to have this mythology
27:13you know
27:13that just focuses
27:14on this made up
27:15moment of history
27:17of you know
27:17Native and pilgrims
27:19coming together
27:19and so it's just like
27:21you know
27:21so people will just be like
27:22well you know
27:23we're paying respect
27:23to Native peoples
27:24but you know
27:25but you're also just saying
27:26like forget about
27:27like these centuries
27:28of land
27:29like moving you off
27:30of your land
27:31genocide
27:32all these things
27:33that happened
27:33throughout U.S. history
27:34and just
27:35but remember that time
27:35we had dinner together
27:36yeah
27:40it's not good
27:40so
27:41but I feel like
27:44I feel like
27:47it is an important
27:48holiday
27:48that we do get
27:49a moment
27:49to come together
27:50you know
27:50and if you want
27:51to pay respect
27:51and you want
27:52to you know
27:53be an ally
27:54and you know
27:55understand
27:55Indigenous culture
27:56you know
27:57pay respect
27:57think about the land
27:58that you're standing on
27:59learn a little bit
27:59about the history
28:00learn about the tribes
28:01that are living by you
28:01buy food from
28:02Indigenous producers
28:03buy a Native cookbook
28:04you know
28:05I love it
28:11I was very lucky
28:12to go visit
28:13the Native American
28:14museum in D.C.
28:15yeah
28:15and what I loved
28:16about it was
28:17it was kind of
28:18what you're describing
28:19your vision of
28:20Native American culture
28:21which is this kind of
28:22what if
28:23Native American culture
28:25had been allowed
28:26to modernize
28:27into today
28:27and the building
28:28the architecture
28:29is all Native American
28:29inspired
28:30and you go in there
28:31and what I loved
28:32about it was that
28:32it's not
28:33it's not just
28:34misery porn
28:35it's celebratory
28:36as well
28:37and one of the rooms
28:38in there
28:38that was
28:39it's a very bright room
28:40I don't know
28:41if the exhibit
28:41is still there
28:42the undertones
28:44are obviously
28:45upsetting
28:46but the overtones
28:47it's a bright room
28:48and it was saying
28:49how everything
28:51in America
28:51is Native American
28:53we use the names
28:55we use the names
28:55everywhere
28:55Chicago
28:56Illinois
28:57Minnesota
28:57Washington
28:59professional football team
29:01even the logos
29:06of American spirit
29:08cigarettes
29:08we use the logo
29:09and we see
29:10we actually
29:11in America
29:11see Native American
29:12names and culture
29:14everywhere
29:15but we never hear
29:15from them
29:16right
29:16yeah
29:16and again
29:17there's so much
29:19amazing stuff
29:19going on
29:20across Native America
29:21because we're starting
29:22to see more Native
29:23chefs come out
29:24we're seeing a lot
29:24more Native media
29:25with TV shows
29:26and movies
29:27and a lot more
29:27representation
29:28of Native peoples
29:29doing what they're doing
29:30a lot more arts
29:30a lot more
29:31just everything
29:32and I think
29:33it is time for us
29:34to not be pushed
29:36into the shadows
29:36and not just be
29:37pretending like
29:39we're just on
29:39these reservation systems
29:40these segregated communities
29:41but allowing us
29:43to be a part
29:43of everything too
29:44and I do expect
29:46this book
29:46to be banned
29:46in Florida
29:47but it's important
29:52because we should
29:52learn these histories
29:53because it's American history
29:54like we all share
29:55the history here
29:56and we shouldn't
29:57be afraid of history
29:58we should learn from it
29:58and history can be
29:59really hard to read
30:00sometimes
30:01but I feel like
30:02we should understand
30:03the pain and trauma
30:04that some people
30:04had to go through
30:05especially indigenous peoples
30:06because my tribe
30:07Lakota
30:08we were still battling
30:09the US government
30:10until the turn of the century
30:10because Wounded Knee Massacre
30:11happens in 1890
30:12and that's not ancient history
30:14that's the point
30:15when we started
30:15losing a lot of our culture
30:17because that's when
30:17we're being really forced
30:18onto the reservation systems
30:20my grandparents' generation
30:22are going through
30:22boarding schools
30:23having to cut their hair
30:24learn English
30:24learn Christianity
30:25and just changing
30:26everything that they were
30:27from Lakota
30:28into something different
30:29but it's just layering
30:30on so much trauma
30:31to those generations
30:32that we still feel
30:33a lot of that coming through
30:34so when you really look
30:36at what happened
30:36to indigenous peoples
30:37and other people
30:39like black and indigenous
30:39in American history
30:40especially
30:41they're so interwoven
30:43together
30:43with the stuff
30:44that we had to go through
30:45that food can help us
30:47pull through this
30:47I think it's important
30:48we understand our histories
30:49it's also important
30:50that we see the future
30:51thank you so much
30:52thank you so much
30:56for preserving it
30:58and thank you
30:59for providing a rally point
31:00for people
31:01who want to be an ally
31:02and thank you
31:03for sharing your knowledge
31:03with us
31:04and I hope you can
31:04keep sharing it
31:05because there's a lot to learn
31:06thank you chef
31:07thank you so much
31:07appreciate it
31:08it's Turtle Island
31:09it's available now
31:11chef Sean Sherman
31:12we're going to take a quick break
31:14we'll be right back
31:15after this
31:15thank you so much
31:17thank you so much
31:17thank you so much
31:18hey
31:27that's our show for tonight
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31:40now here it is
31:41your moment of zen
31:42I'm all for
31:43the environmental
31:45everything
31:45I'm all for climate change
31:47you know
31:48they have new word
31:48climate change
31:49used to be
31:50global warming
31:51it's global warming
31:52well that didn't work
31:53because it started coming down
31:54they did the global cooling thing
31:57then they just said
31:58we can't keep up with this
31:59it's too much
32:00so we'll go
32:01perfect words
32:03climate change
32:04sorry
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