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00:00Kate Winslet, Ray C. Holm, and music from Stephen Wilson Jr. with The Klee Tones.
00:09And now, Jimmy Kimmel!
00:12I'm very kind, I appreciate that, welcome to the show, I'm Jimmy, I'm the host, thanks
00:33for watching, and thank you for joining us on, I don't know about you, but for me it was
00:39a, it was a very big day today, do you know why it was a big day today, Guillermo?
00:43Uh, because of the Jeffrey Einstein list?
00:48The Jeffrey Alpine list?
00:50No, Einstein.
00:51What?
00:52Oh, Jeffrey Einstein.
00:53Yeah.
00:54Right, of course.
00:55Yeah.
00:56You sit there every night, you think it's Einstein?
00:59No.
01:00Okay, all right.
01:02Um, at long last, after, I don't know, who the hell knows how long Trump has been keistering
01:07those Einstein files.
01:08Yeah, thank, thank you.
01:10The dam has broken, the Kraken has been released, both the House and Senate passed a bill this
01:15afternoon to unleash the Epstein files.
01:23Nearly unanimous in the House.
01:25The Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, who's been trying to avoid this vote so desperately
01:29he kept the House out of session for two months, is sticking to his, this is a Democrat distraction
01:35story.
01:36What you're about to see here is a man squeezing his butt cheeks together so tightly, he could
01:41make the Hope Diamond out of a charcoal briquette.
01:45Democrats are trying to use the Epstein matter as a political weapon to distract from their
01:49own party's failures, and in a desperate attempt, they're trying to somehow tie President Trump
01:56to, to the scandal.
01:58President Trump has nothing to do with it.
02:00He has said himself, he has nothing to hide.
02:02He said it himself.
02:03Is that not enough for you people?
02:06He's, he's never misled us before.
02:09This, nothing to hide, he wrote Jeffrey Epstein a whole goddamn birthday letter with a drawing
02:15on it about their wonderful secrets.
02:16That, to me, sounds like something to hide, but ultimately, even Mike Johnson voted yes
02:22on releasing the files.
02:24The bill passed the House 427 to 1.
02:26The lone no vote came from a gentleman named Clay Higgins.
02:30He's a Republican from Louisiana.
02:32Um, you can see this here, you can see him trying to kill Roger Rabbit.
02:38He, he says he voted no on principle, as in a principle you don't want near your kid's
02:45school.
02:46Clay Higgins also voted for David Duke, the former Grand Wizard of the Klan, for governor.
02:51So he has a history of solid decision making.
02:53He says his fear is that, as written, the bill could damage the reputations of innocent
02:59people, which is rich, coming from a guy who once tweeted, LOL, these Haitians are wild,
03:05eating pets, voodoo, nastiest country in the Western Hemisphere.
03:08So Higgins was a no, but the Senate jumped in and voted yes by unanimous consent, which
03:14means the bill now goes to the White House, which means Trump's going to have to sign it.
03:18The goal was to have the bill passed by such a large margin that Trump can't put his little
03:24orange thumb on the scale and give it the old Cheeto veto, but make no mistake, this isn't
03:30over.
03:31He's not giving up these.
03:32He's going to release all the Epstein files.
03:35I've got a beautiful east wing of the White House to sell you.
03:37Even after an almost unanimous vote by Congress, Trump's cronies in the Department of Justice
03:44still have the power to withhold information to protect ongoing investigations, to protect
03:50innocent people, or for reasons of national security.
03:54The DOJ can withhold entire documents, photos, and or video.
03:59But they would never do anything like that, would they?
04:02They're sworn to protect the Constitution of the United States.
04:05Something's fishy.
04:06Trump rolled over faster than that dog Jelaine Maxwell gets to play with in her country
04:10club prison.
04:11That's the other thing that's not getting enough attention.
04:13Jelaine Maxwell, Epstein's wing woman, you know, she had a meeting with Trump's deputy attorney
04:19general and former personal lawyer over the summer, then coincidentally got moved right
04:24out of regular prison and into the kind of prison Felicity Huffman was in for getting her kid
04:29into college. Under the Bureau of Prisons Policy, convicted sex offenders like Maxwell are not typically eligible for minimum security, but I guess 34 time convicted felons aren't typically eligible to be president of the United States either, so thanks to Trump, she now gets all these perks, including playtime with a puppy, which makes sense.
04:52She is the world's most famous living groomer. According to a whistleblower and some other sources, she has a special cordoned off area for her visitors, she gets snacks and refreshments for her guests, she gets yoga time, she gets unlimited toilet paper, computer privileges.
05:11It's, this woman gets better accommodations than at a courtyard Marriott. It is amazing the kind of special treatment you get when half of the most powerful people from the last 30 years don't want to see you testifying in court.
05:24The president today, he kept busy, he kept his eye on the ball, and he even addressed this situation at a live corporate event.
05:32Everyone loves something at McDonald's. There's always something to have. I like the fish. I like it.
05:42Shammussolini likes the fish at McDonald's.
05:45Oh wait, that was from Ronald McFondall's appearance at the McDonald's Summit last night.
05:50Trump is not a happy little meal right now. Every time he gets asked about Jeffrey Epstein, he loses his mind.
05:58Yeah, Jennifer, go ahead, go ahead. If there's nothing incriminating enough, sir, why not?
06:03Quiet, quiet piggy.
06:05He called, he called her piggy. He said, quiet piggy to a reporter and it barely made the news.
06:12If a man spoke like that to a female co-worker in like a workplace harassment training video, you go, ah, that's over the top.
06:19Nobody would do that. But if the pilot on Air Force One behaved like the president, he wouldn't be allowed to fly the plane.
06:25OK? That was Friday. Today, Trump did what most people would do when faced with a scandal that could potentially end his presidency.
06:33He welcomed an evil prince to the White House. He welcomed the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman,
06:40the only leader who treats reporters worse than he does, to a big, lavish dinner in his honor.
06:46Mohammed bin Salman, this is a guy who gave a green light to the brutal murder of Jamal Khashoggi, a columnist for the Washington Post,
06:54who'd been critical of bin Salman's regime. But he, so he was dismembered with a bone saw at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul.
07:01So naturally, Trump is pulling out all the stops for his trillionaire friend, who also happens to be doing business with Don Jr. and Eric.
07:09Is it appropriate, Mr. President, for your family to be doing business in Saudi Arabia while you're president?
07:14Is that a conflict of interest? And your loyal highness, the U.S. intelligence concluded that you orchestrated the brutal murder of a journalist.
07:219-11 families are furious that you are here in the Oval Office.
07:25Who are you with? Who are you with?
07:26Why don't Americans trust you?
07:27Who are you with?
07:28And the same to you, Mr. President.
07:29Now, who are you with?
07:30I'm with ABC News, sir.
07:31You're with who?
07:32ABC News, sir.
07:33Fake News.
07:34That was Mary Bruce of ABC News doing what reporters are supposed to do.
07:40As far as this gentleman is concerned, he's done a phenomenal job.
07:43You're mentioning somebody that was extremely controversial.
07:47A lot of people didn't like that gentleman that you're talking about.
07:50Whether you like him or didn't like him, things happen.
07:53But he knew nothing about it.
07:54And we can leave it at that.
07:55You don't have to embarrass our guests by asking a question like that.
07:58That's right.
07:59How dare you embarrass a man who had a columnist sawed into pieces?
08:04Things happen.
08:05Things happen.
08:06This is not an episode of The Sopranos.
08:08You're the president of the United States.
08:11The crown prince did address the murder.
08:14He said, we've improved our system to be sure that nothing happened like that.
08:18It's painful and it's a huge mistake and we're doing our best that this doesn't happen again.
08:23They're doing their best to make sure it doesn't happen again.
08:25This is not what you say about a murder.
08:27This is what the manager at Jersey Mike says when they accidentally put pepperoni on your tuna sandwich.
08:33But from Mary Bruce, Mary Bruce didn't back down.
08:40She's like, oh, you don't like the questions about the murder?
08:43All right, then what about the Epstein files?
08:45Why wait for Congress to release the Epstein files?
08:47Why not just do it now?
08:48You know, it's not the question that I mind.
08:51It's your attitude.
08:52I think you are a terrible reporter.
08:54The way you ask these questions, you start off with a man who is highly respected asking
09:00him a horrible insubordinate and just a terrible question.
09:05You're a terrible person and a terrible reporter.
09:08Someone's not getting a Kennedy Center honor, I guess.
09:12People are wise to your hoax.
09:14And ABC's, your company, your crappy company is one of the perpetrators.
09:19And I'll tell you something, I'll tell you something.
09:21I think the license should be taken away from ABC because your news is so fake and it's so wrong.
09:29And we have a great commissioner, the chairman, who should look at that.
09:34I don't know.
09:35The last time your FCC guy looked at that, didn't go so great for you.
09:38It really...
09:44How can anyone support you?
09:47The idea that Trump is having a dinner for this monster.
09:51You just can't imagine what Jamal Khashoggi's family must think.
09:55I mean, he treated him like he was his best friend from summer camp.
09:59Outside of Trump, because I blow everyone away.
10:02Who was the best president for Saudi Arabia?
10:06But does Trump...
10:07We've worked with all presidents.
10:08Does Trump blow them all away?
10:10Son of the league, Mr. President.
10:14And Trump doesn't give a fist pump.
10:17I grab that hand.
10:18I don't give a hell where that hand's been.
10:20I grab that hand.
10:21That's right.
10:22I grab that hand.
10:23I open that hand.
10:24I see if I can find any money in that hand.
10:27I don't care who that hand had murdered.
10:30Come here and let me hug that little Italian tablecloth on your head, you big lug.
10:36And then we have our Secretary of Health and Human Services, who is at George Washington University, regaling those in the crowd with stories about Marco Rubio, who he calls the funniest member of Trump's cabinet.
10:48Elon Musk was saying that, was going through all of his Doge data, and he was saying we found 250,000 Americans over the age of 124 who are collecting...
11:03We're collecting, um...
11:05Uh...
11:06Uh...
11:07Uh...
11:08We're...
11:09We're...
11:10We're collecting...
11:11We're collecting...
11:12We're collecting, um...
11:13Uh...
11:14We're...
11:15Okay, you know...
11:18You seem to be dying.
11:20We'll come back to you later.
11:21I don't know.
11:24I think...
11:25I'm feeling like the main reason Trump keeps him around is because he makes him look coherent.
11:31These Epstein files, say what you will about the Epstein files, they've kind of brought the country together.
11:36I mean, we had an almost unanimous vote in Congress today?
11:40That hasn't happened for a long time.
11:42And that's...
11:43I think especially interesting because today, November 18th, is the 40th anniversary of Calvin and Hobbes, the comic strip, which is now, I think, best known from the bumper stickers of Calvin urinating in all types of situations.
12:00For instance, if you're a Chevy lover, you can slap a sticker on your Silverado that lets people know how you feel about Fords.
12:07Or if you love Ford, you could tell the world what you think of Chevy.
12:11That's what's so great about Calvin.
12:13He will pee on anything.
12:15If you get audited, he will pee on the IRS.
12:19If you get divorced, he will pee on your ex.
12:22He's not biased.
12:23Calvin will pee on Fox News and CNN.
12:26He'll pee on skinny people.
12:28He'll pee on fat people.
12:30And no matter how you felt about the last election, Calvin feels exactly the same way.
12:35There's good pee on both sides.
12:37Calvin is so impartial, he will even pee on himself.
12:42So congratulations, Calvin.
12:44You're everything to everyone.
12:47And even at 40 years old, you still have a strong, steady stream.
12:53Happy birthday.
12:54We've got a very good show for your night.
12:56Ray Sehorne is here with us tonight.
12:58We have music from Steven Wilson, Jr.
13:01And we will be right back with Kate Winslet.
13:04So stick around.
13:14All right, and welcome back to the show tonight.
13:16A very talented actor you know from Better Call Saul.
13:19Her new show from Vince Gilligan is called Pluribus.
13:22Ray Sehorne is with us tonight.
13:24And then later, he is nominated for New Artist of the Year at tomorrow night's CMA Awards
13:30on ABC.
13:31This is a single.
13:32It's called Gary Steven Wilson, Jr. will join us.
13:36Tomorrow night.
13:37Oh, look at this, Guillermo.
13:39You know who's going to be here tomorrow night?
13:41Adam Sandler.
13:42I've never heard you say anything with less excitement than that.
13:47Adam Sandler, Jimmy.
13:49He's so funny.
13:50He's great.
13:51I love him.
13:52Did you have a fight with Adam Sandler?
13:54What's going on?
13:55No, no, no, no, Jimmy.
13:57All right.
13:58Yeah, Adam Sandler will be here.
13:59Yes.
14:00Adam Sandler, Ali Larder, and music from T-Pain.
14:03So please join us for that.
14:04Our first guest tonight is an Oscar, Emmy, and Grammy-winning person
14:08you know from movies set on water, in water, and sometimes on land.
14:13Her directorial debut is called Goodbye June.
14:16It opens in select theaters December 12th and premieres on Netflix December 24th.
14:20Please welcome Kate Winslet.
14:21Thank you so much.
14:22How are you?
14:23Thank you so much.
14:24How are you?
14:25I'm very well.
14:26Although I nearly came out.
14:27I was just telling your stage manager.
14:28Yeah.
14:29I nearly came out holding my trousers up because I walked out of the dressing room.
14:30When you film people coming out of the dressing room, I full-on tripped.
14:31You did?
14:32Yes.
14:33Yes.
14:34Really full-on tripped.
14:35And so I thought, well, I won't do that on your show.
14:36I'll be nice and respectable.
14:37Did you do a retake?
14:38No.
14:39Did you do a retake?
14:40Yes.
14:41I believe it was a great interview.
14:42Yeah.
14:43You did.
14:44It was a great interview.
14:45Thank you so much.
14:46I can't do it.
14:47Thank you so much.
14:48How are you?
14:49I'm very well, although I'm so...
14:50I nearly came out.
14:51I was just telling your stage manager.
14:52Yeah.
14:53I nearly came out holding my trousers up because I walked out of the dressing room.
14:55When you film people coming out of the dressing room, I full-on tripped.
14:58You did?
14:59Yes.
15:00Really full-on tripped.
15:01And so I thought, well, I won't do that on your show.
15:02I'll be nice and respectable.
15:03Did you do a retake?
15:04Did you, or do we see you tripping?
15:06Luckily, I had just left frame.
15:09OK.
15:10But all the girls saw me do it, and they all went like this.
15:13But here I am.
15:14I made it.
15:16I'm glad you made it.
15:17I'm glad you're OK.
15:19Where do you live, by the way?
15:21I live in England.
15:21Oh, you live in England?
15:22Yeah.
15:23Hence the accent.
15:24Yeah.
15:24Yeah.
15:25I know, right?
15:26Am I wrong, or didn't you live in New York for quite a while?
15:28I lived in New York for, yeah, the best part of 10 years.
15:31And then he said, I'm going back.
15:33I'm going home.
15:34It was just time.
15:35It was just time to go home, be nearer to family and all of that.
15:37But I loved living in New York.
15:39I loved Thanksgiving.
15:40I loved the winters, the snow.
15:42I loved all of it.
15:43It was wonderful.
15:43Christmas time is great in New York.
15:46But I think it might be it's even more magical in London,
15:48right?
15:49Isn't that a big thing there?
15:50It is pretty magical.
15:51It's a very big thing there, because we don't have Thanksgiving.
15:54And I do miss Thanksgiving.
15:56Yeah, right.
15:56You don't have Thanksgiving, because we are actually
15:59giving thanks for getting away from you guys in a lot of ways.
16:03Yeah, that's right.
16:04That's right.
16:05But I don't understand the sweet potato marshmallow.
16:10What is that about?
16:12Oh.
16:13Really, can you tell me?
16:15Yeah.
16:16It's delicious, isn't it?
16:17No.
16:18You don't like it?
16:19No, no, no.
16:20Those two things, I don't think they're meant to go together.
16:23And you do have a lot of pie.
16:26And I feel like maybe one pie is enough.
16:29But you have many, many, many types of pie.
16:32Well, I'd say, first of all, pies are delicious.
16:36Yes, they are.
16:37In my house, I'm not going to speak for all Americans,
16:39but at my house, you know, we have to make sure people
16:43sometimes arrive late and whatnot.
16:46And you don't want to have that person in charge of the turkey
16:49or in charge of, like, the mashed potatoes, the stuff that's
16:51got to be on the table no matter what.
16:54So if people bring things, you say, you know what?
16:56Bring a pie.
16:57Bring a pie.
16:58Ah, that's what it is.
16:59And then there are a lot of pies.
17:01And so then everybody feels that they're making a contribution,
17:03and everything is left over.
17:05And then you eat eight or nine slices of pie.
17:08Over eight or nine days.
17:09Right.
17:10Fantastic.
17:12Now, the sweet potatoes with the marshmallows,
17:14I don't know where we got that.
17:16I figured we got it from you guys.
17:18Oh, absolutely not.
17:19No.
17:20No.
17:21No.
17:21We love them.
17:22We like them.
17:23And sometimes you'll just eat the marshmallows.
17:25You pick them all off the whole thing.
17:26Well, that I do understand.
17:27I actually love picking things off the top of things.
17:30Or I will, this is a secret, actually,
17:32and I've never said this live anywhere in my life,
17:34apart from in front of my children.
17:37This is really so stupid.
17:40I love eating the outsides off the Kit Kat.
17:43Yes!
17:44Isn't that stupid?
17:45But it's so delicious, because there's something about that
17:48that you can have, like, 10 of them
17:50and just pretend it never happened, which I like.
17:53Will you then finish the inside, or you?
17:55No, I throw it out the window of the car,
17:58of the car, because I only do it in the car.
18:00My children are going to be like, why did you tell that story?
18:03Wow.
18:04And I've done it all of their lives.
18:05And if I didn't do it, I think they'd be sad.
18:07So now I have to keep it.
18:08I'm just happy you're eating our Kit Kats,
18:10because I have found, and I find this to be annoying,
18:13how imperious Brits are about how much better
18:16their chocolate is than ours.
18:18No, I actually disagree on that, Frank.
18:19Oh, you do?
18:20I do love a Hershey's.
18:21You love a Hershey's?
18:22See, I love a Hershey's also.
18:24But people go, oh, no, Cadbury.
18:26Oh, well, they're both pretty great.
18:27Yeah, I agree with that.
18:28They are both pretty great.
18:29Wow.
18:30Things really, really?
18:30I've got something right.
18:32I like Hershey's.
18:33Yeah, no, you've got a lot of things right.
18:34Believe me, have you, are you like a?
18:36Can I just say, you've also gotten a lot of things right,
18:39and we all love you back in the UK.
18:41Oh, my God.
18:43I hope I haven't done any better.
18:45And I do have to show my affection and warmth from over.
18:50How big is your family?
18:51Are you from a big family?
18:53I'm from a very big family.
18:54I myself have three siblings, and my father.
18:58My mother passed away.
18:59And I have a rambling bundle of nieces and nephews,
19:03and there's lots of us.
19:04So you guys get together?
19:05Very much so.
19:06Do you think it converges for all of this sort of thing?
19:08Yes, they do.
19:09Oh, that's nice.
19:10Yeah, it's wonderful, actually.
19:11I do love it.
19:11And you've been doing that your whole life, I assume?
19:13All my whole life.
19:14And my favorite time of year, actually, is Christmas.
19:17And I think it's just such a special time,
19:19because so rarely now these days do we sit down and share
19:22a meal with our family members and people that we care about.
19:25And sharing stories.
19:26Now with these, we're driving around,
19:27picking kid cats apart.
19:28That's right.
19:29Throwing them out the window.
19:30Hitting joggers in the head with them.
19:31Pretending it never happened.
19:34You have an interesting job, and I'm going to read this,
19:36because it says you are the ambassador for the King's
19:39Foundation.
19:40Yes, I'm one of many.
19:42One of many.
19:42Oh, OK.
19:43The King has an extraordinary foundation that supports
19:46small charities and crafts that have been sort of outdated.
19:52So he's really an extraordinary man.
19:54Oh, you're with him.
19:55There you are with him.
19:56He's really very, he's a really extraordinary person.
19:59He's very, very kind and extremely empathetic
20:02and very, very generous.
20:03Speaking of extraordinary people,
20:05put that back up for a second, because it's you
20:07and Meryl Streep and David Beckham.
20:09Yes.
20:11Did you volunteer to go first, because of all the rules
20:14that are involved?
20:15OK, so actually, there was a conversation about this.
20:18So Meryl and I, as we were walking to meet the King.
20:22I have actually met him for a long time ago,
20:23but we'll come back to that in a second.
20:27When Meryl and I were walking, she says to me,
20:29do you think we have to courtesy?
20:31And I said, absolutely, we have to courtesy.
20:33She was like, OK, is it like a big courtesy?
20:35Is it like a, what do we do?
20:37I said, I don't know, just let's, you know,
20:39we'll just make the motion.
20:40She was like, I don't know if we need to do that.
20:42There was a big panic.
20:43We didn't know what the form was.
20:45Obviously, we had to courtesy.
20:47Did I go first?
20:48I think I did.
20:49Yeah.
20:50But then I'm always trying to volunteer to go first,
20:53because I feel like leadership is important,
20:56and someone has to get it wrong.
20:58And it is usually me that does, so I don't mind taking the hit.
21:01Who is more nervous, Meryl Streep to meet the king,
21:04or the king to meet Meryl Streep?
21:08I don't know.
21:08She was a little bit nervous, actually.
21:10She didn't seem nervous, yeah.
21:11I mean, he's a very gentle, personable individual,
21:16but he is the king.
21:18And it's quite something to meet him.
21:20The first time I met him, oh my goodness,
21:23he had come to support the premiere.
21:26It was a royal premiere of Sense and Sensibility
21:29when I was only 20, and I sort of hadn't realized
21:32that we were really going to meet him.
21:34And so I forgot about the fact that I really
21:36was wearing a kind of a transparent lace outfit.
21:42And thank god I'd worn a coat, because as he's
21:47making his way towards me, I'm like, nipples, nipples.
21:52Nipples, oh my god.
21:53And then someone just went, coat.
21:54And I went, your majesty.
21:59Basically covering myself in a cape and trying to hide my nipples.
22:01That makes me feel sorry for the king,
22:02because he's the only one that doesn't get to see nipples.
22:05Oh, that's true.
22:06You're watching everybody curtsy all the time.
22:08There's no fun in that.
22:09No, there really, there is no fun in that.
22:11We're going to take a break, and when we come back,
22:13we're going to talk about your new film, which
22:15was written by your own son, Kate Winslet is here.
22:19The movie's called Goodbye, June.
22:21And now she can't have the one surgery that would have saved her life.
22:28Keep your voice down, please, Molly.
22:30And you can't send her on some posh f***ing holiday, Julia.
22:33There's nothing left to pay for now, is there?
22:35OK, that's actually a bit unfair, because I've been really supportive,
22:42Molly, and I've been very kind.
22:45Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
22:46That be very kind.
22:47That be very calm.
22:48That's a little bit much.
22:49Take off again, you two.
22:50What?
22:51You're endlessly f***ing Matt.
22:52Stop doing some f***ing.
22:53Stop doing some f***ing.
22:54Stop doing some f***ing.
22:55Yes, it's ridiculous.
22:56That is Kate Winslet and Goodbye, June, which is...
23:00I watched it last night, and it's very sweet, and very...
23:04And it amazes me that, and very sad, that your son, who was how old when he wrote this?
23:10So my son, Joe, he started writing this when he was 19, and he's now
23:1521 nearly 22 and i can't get over the fact that a kid that of that age would write something like
23:24this because it's very mature yeah it's um it shows i think uh really a you know beautiful
23:31family dynamic there was it based on something that happened to you so so what happened was my
23:38so my wonderful brilliant son joe um he had always written all of his life i mean we still have on
23:45our refrigerator poetry that he wrote when he was seven years old and and so it didn't surprise me
23:50that he wanted to explore the idea of screenwriting and he got a place on a screenwriting course at the
23:56national film and television school and this was what he was asked to do was to write a screenplay
24:01and he said to me at the end he said i've written script and you know it's probably not very good
24:06but you know it could would you just can you maybe you could perhaps could you could you actually just
24:11read it could you just read it for me and if it's if it's crap just lie because i just and he was
24:17just so sweet about it and and i read it and it was funny and touching and real and chaotic and messy
24:24in that way that family are and i said to him this this i really think this could be a film and he was
24:29like what mum no mum no don't do that thing don't do that thing it's not a assignment you have to make
24:36me feel good about just and i said no no no no it's really good and what he had done was he was
24:42encouraged by a brilliant teacher to she said to him write what you know and the most the well the
24:48most seismic thing that had happened in his life was the loss of his grandmother when he was a teenager
24:53my mother and everyone came together in our huge family and even just logistically that was so
25:00extraordinary and it was very odd that we were all in this same place because we all came from this
25:06one woman so he took that as his emotional backdrop and created a fictional story with a fictional family
25:12about a group of people having to put aside past grievances and come to terms with the impending loss
25:19of the matriarch and it's really a story of how a family is pulled closer together because of this
25:25event yeah and i and then your real family on set is pulled close together you working with your son
25:32did you have disputes with oh there you guys well you look like you're getting along did you guys have
25:37any arguments about um what would be in because when you're the director you then take over you are
25:42then in charge of the film well that's the thing and when it came to the point of the screenplay
25:46being ready i was going to produce it i was going to play the character of julia and and and and i knew
25:51that we were in a position to find a director and i suddenly couldn't let it go and i said to him look
25:56i i would love to direct it because when you give it to a director it becomes theirs which is exactly the
26:02right thing that should happen but i didn't want that for him i wanted him to remain a part of it i wanted
26:08him to experience seeing this beautiful thing that he had created come to life and he happens to be
26:13very very smart about film and uh and having him there with me every day was just fantastic and
26:20the process of him writing it was also so much fun because he'd say okay i've redrafted that scene okay
26:24you do you do the bernie part i'll do the connor part okay go and then we would read it through
26:28together and figure out what should stay and what should go and what was funny and what wasn't funny
26:33enough or etc and that process was glorious and we learned different things about one another in this
26:40working capacity and actually we didn't we didn't fight we we didn't do that um i had to learn how
26:46to say things to him in a sensitive way if i thought maybe something could work differently or whatever
26:51and he would also disagree with me and he would say well i didn't you know i don't know if i saw it
26:54like that and i'd say just hang on hang on hang on um but i did it jimmy in the 50th year of my life
27:00it came out great this is your first feature yes and it's a really i think especially just sweet to
27:07watch around the holiday times yeah it's um it's a great lesson for young people to do your homework
27:14yeah because if you do your mom might make a movie out of it oh yes that's very true do your homework
27:20and make sure it's good yeah the movie is called goodbye june it opens in select theaters on december
27:2612th and premieres on netflix yes december 24th christmas eve the great kate winslet everybody
27:32thank you welcome back racy award and music from stephen wilson jr are still to come but first they say
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29:08from six emmy nominated seasons of better call saul she reteams with vince gilligan for the new show
29:14pluribus do you like my books oh we love your books what do you love about them everything
29:23your books are an expression of you and we love you need you to be more specific character arcs
29:32plot turns oh yes yes we love the character arcs and the plot turns which ones all of them
29:42no offense larry but uh i think you're me watch clear of us fridays on apple tv plus please welcome
29:49marie seahorn
30:03very good to see you so good to be back congratulations on your on your show i know
30:08it's doing really well you're reunited with vince gilligan which is nice it's awesome yeah that's
30:13exciting because vince now vince gilligan did uh breaking bad and then he did better call saw
30:18which obviously a lot of the characters overlapped and then but this one is not at all it has no
30:24relation to any of that correct none of it yes except for you're shooting in albuquerque
30:30correct yes yes and he did tell me that we would be shooting there but that there would be no overlap
30:35that's one of the few things he told me when he called me what is going on with him in albuquerque
30:41well he and his partner holly they have a place in santa fe and he absolutely loves it he was originally
30:46going to do breaking bad in southern california and they went there for the tax break and he just
30:51fell in love with it and then and now we have these crews uh a large percentage of the crew came
30:56from breaking bad and is better and yeah and he likes to use the same people that makes sense do
31:00you know would you say you're now like do you live in albuquerque i mean are you from albuquerque
31:05now have you lived anywhere as i should be an honorary citizen there i think because i lived there
31:10for so long i mean off and on for 10 years to shoot all the seasons of saul and then and now we
31:17live there for months at a time to shoot this one is that the most you ever lived in one place because
31:22you've lived in a lot of places right oh yeah i have yeah my uh we were civilian not in the military
31:29but my dad was nis so we lived in japan when i was really little and then uh arizona then virginia
31:36and then as an adult i did dc and do you remember living in japan how little were you yeah um i lived
31:42there till i was five but i totally were five yeah you do remember yeah that's weird you don't
31:46remember anything from like kindergarten or anything i remember no i i yes no i do remember kindergarten
31:54but um vaguely and i think a lot of it's from the photographs that i have what do you remember
31:59about that's true we'll never know right you can never disentangle like is this because somebody
32:03told you that's a memory of that right but my sister and i my sister donna who's three years
32:06older we have a lot of things where we're like why are we obsessed with that or that uh and we'll
32:11realize a lot of it traces back to japanese culture i love everything japanese and one of the things
32:17definitely as little kids is that they have a lot of miniaturized things like at the train stations
32:22and stuff there's like miniature sushi and there's miniature foods you collect yeah a lot of fun little
32:27things in the really like tiny things and so she and i to this day will be like look at this chair
32:32it's so tiny i love this chair so you will go to like say cvs and you'll go to that travel section
32:38with the little toothpaste and whatnot and just be delighted i am delighted as a result of your time
32:43in japan i absolutely am um where were you living when you decided you wanted to start acting dc was
32:51doing theater in the dc area you started doing live theater there yes and um as a student or as an
32:58adult i was a student and doing some student productions and then uh kind of volunteer
33:05ushering um at the professional theater so that i could start to learn that stuff volunteer ushering
33:10yeah like at woolly mammoth theater um you could volunteer usher there and you could watch the same
33:15play over and over and like learn from these actors it was incredible so is that what you did
33:19well no you didn't get paid for that what did you have a lot of day jobs lots of day jobs um all
33:24different ones uh worked at tgi fridays which is featured in the show did you yes yeah did you
33:31sing isn't there a birthday song at tgi fridays or is that a different wait it was there i don't
33:36i was a hostess because i uh oh yeah you were i didn't even get the suspenders although they have
33:40reached out and said they'd give me the suspenders now did they really yeah with flare i was once thrown
33:46out of a tgi fridays yeah what being drunk yes yeah really yeah yeah i mean you remember the song
33:52don't worry be happy yes we were singing that too loud and you were not worried oh no we're just
33:58happy we were very happy until they asked us to leave the restaurant and then we're wow yeah then
34:03we were less happy yeah i uh i should i should not have eaten all the meals there though like they
34:09have lovely food yeah we did get free food and i was like it's so weird that my pants don't fit but i
34:14was just eating a lot of skins and a lot of alfredo mozzarella sticks were a big one there too right
34:20and there's some kind of like um a thing but somewhere between marinara sauce and ketchup in
34:26uh you dip it into right i don't remember that it's like a disgusting marinara sauce i think you
34:32i think you just mixed your ketchup and your marinara oh that's possible i was pretty hammered yeah
34:40yeah i worked at i worked at a record store too kemville records did you ever work at a record store no but i
34:45was a dj so i spent many days of the week in a record store now that's what year was this that
34:51you were in a record store early 90s so it was cds cd time was gone and not yet back yeah right but it
34:58was it was cds yeah oh wow i liked working there especially at the holidays like season like now
35:03until christmas because um at the time kids this you couldn't google like the bands and you couldn't
35:10like look up what song you were looking for right so you get a lot of parents and grandparents coming
35:15in looking for uh you know the album or the song that their kids said they wanted for christmas but
35:20they don't have the title so they would either sing it to you oh really yeah it'd be like you know
35:26like a grandma going like it goes something like oh there it is
35:31so i was like i think i know what song yeah and then uh were you good at figuring it out i was
35:43i was very good and then i also like the other thing they would do is try to have me guess the
35:49name of the band um but they were getting it all wrong and it was like a weird game um and i remember
35:56one of the best ones because i like wordplay games a lot and so that's kind of what it was and this
36:00woman was saying she's like it's um it's a band and he wears jeans and uh and i was like i need a
36:08little more here and then she's like it's something like um what did she say uh it's like clam party
36:15it's like a clam and a party it's a clam party i was like what first i guessed blue oyster cult
36:22good guess pretty good pretty good no okay can you guess no what do you mean uh can you guys guess
36:28clam party clam party what yes
36:40i think your answer was more correct even though his was correct because curls don't come from clams
36:45they come from oysters it's true it's true it's very word associative yeah but you my friend could
36:51work at kent mill that's right it's great to see you congrats on your show pluribus is the show
36:58new episodes fridays on apple tv plus we'll be back with stephen wilson jr
37:08thanks to kate winslet ray c or an apologies to matt damon nightline is next but first here with the
37:13song gary stephen wilson jr
37:25gary these days been lying in his bed man
37:31i'm working on the same car going on a decade
37:41scribbles on junk mail don't draw attention
37:47i never really noticed but now that i'm mentioning
37:50there ain't a lot of boys named gary these days born with a cigarette glued to the face
37:59fixing about anything a hammer can't handle saving all the money because the gary don't gamble
38:05ain't a lot of girls going by debbie anymore but they got the same nicotine pouring out their pores
38:12time leaves town but the minute hand stays ain't a lot of boys named gary these days
38:28gary these days been worried about the bad news
38:34ain't a lot of teenagers filling up the church cubes
38:37burning bush lights don't talk to his brother
38:46the people even still say grace before supper there ain't a lot of boys named gary these days born
38:53with a cigarette glued to the face fixing about anything a hammer can't handle saving all the money
39:00because the gary don't gamble ain't a lot of girls gone by and debbie anymore but they got the same
39:05nicotine pouring out their poise time leaves town but the minute hand stays
39:13ain't a lot of boys named gary these days
39:24a lot of boys named gary these days
39:29every now and then gets the damn thing on and takes it out for a spin first week in may
39:42he believes in god but believes in a little black-eyed piece on the stove on his day
39:52i had a weird suspicion with the ladder on the front porch
40:07heart medication poured down where the drain pours
40:12he holds his left arm while his parakeet prays
40:24has anybody seen much of gary these days
40:26has anybody seen much of gary these days
40:35there ain't a lot of boys named gary these days
40:45gary these days
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41:33Oh, my God.
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