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00:00Hello and welcome to the Traders Ireland Uncloaked, the official Traders visual podcast with me, Kevin McGaughan.
00:06Tonight, Howdy made Andrew on offer he couldn't refuse.
00:13So Andrew, will you accept my invitation to be a traitor?
00:19What happens if I say no?
00:21You will be murdered.
00:22Tough choice there for Andrew. 50,000 euro or death.
00:26So stick around as the banished Andrew will be in the attic for his first exclusive interview since exiting the castle.
00:33And we get the lowdown on all things daddy.
00:36Don't go anywhere.
00:43But now I'm joined by some serious Traders super fans, Alison Spiddle, Kevin Toomey and PJ Kirby.
00:52Folks, you are so welcome on the show.
00:54Alison, first up, what do you think of that episode?
00:57Wow, what an episode.
00:58I was absolutely riveted, so I was.
01:01Jeannie Mac, I swear I had a Fitbit on and it was telling me I was doing a spin class.
01:05I'm absolutely going mad.
01:06Heart rate going mental.
01:07Heart rate going mental.
01:08It was a beautiful Irish drama.
01:10You think about father recruiting the son,
01:13then having to turn on the son and kill him by accident all over 50,000 euro,
01:18which is the equivalent of the price of a field.
01:20So, you know, you could have seen it in the Abbey.
01:23It was an amazing film.
01:23It was a perfect John B. Keane if he did reality TV.
01:26Do you know what?
01:27I would watch that and I think we are today.
01:29Like, it's beautiful.
01:30Lads, what were your thoughts?
01:32I was the same.
01:32Edge of my seat.
01:33Everything that I would want from my Irish reality TV.
01:36I think if the nomination, I'm calling it early.
01:39Yeah.
01:40For that episode alone.
01:41I thought, like, when we were doing the Irish version of the trailers,
01:45I thought, because we're Irish, we're lovely,
01:47the confrontation would be a minimum, you know?
01:50But they're savage.
01:51They're savage this season, no?
01:52We are some of the most two-faced people in the world.
01:56Yeah, but usually behind your back.
01:58Yeah, but that's the joy in it.
02:00Yeah, I know.
02:00I know.
02:00It's beautiful in that way.
02:01Yeah, I was shaking.
02:02But Alison, I think you're right.
02:03I think we are some of the friendliest,
02:05most devious, two-faced people on the planet.
02:07800 years, and I say that with someone of an English dad.
02:10I feel colonised by him myself.
02:13I'm telling you, we are a nation that is used to smiling
02:16and then going, come on now, let's get rid of him.
02:18No, we don't do a great job at it.
02:20This is our nature.
02:22No, we failed a few times,
02:23but eventually we get the job done.
02:25And, you know.
02:26Do you think Paulie bringing Andrew in was well-intentioned?
02:30Or, like God himself, did he send his only son to be sacrificed?
02:34No, I definitely think he came from the heart.
02:36Like, I do think Paulie's a big softie
02:38and just wanted his son on his team, you know.
02:40That's what I thought.
02:41I think the same.
02:42There's a lot of talk, though,
02:43that Paulie's actually like a Machiavellian genius.
02:46Really?
02:46I mean, I would love it
02:47if there was a big ploy and a plot behind it.
02:50I think that'd be great telly.
02:51I think he is cute.
02:52Yeah.
02:52He is cute, but he's not devious.
02:54Yeah, he's no Eamon de Valera, let's put it that way.
02:56No, he's an Eamon Dumpy.
02:57No, he's not, yeah.
02:58He's Eamon Dumpy.
03:00Yeah.
03:00I think because he was by himself, right,
03:02because he was the last traitor standing,
03:03I think he was just searching for a bit of home comfort.
03:06Yeah.
03:07You know, I think he was like,
03:07well, let me get my son in,
03:08at least I can offload to him
03:10and we can make a plan together.
03:11Plus he knows how I like my tea.
03:13Yeah, exactly.
03:14What do you think of the father-son dynamic?
03:17PJ and Kevin,
03:18do you think you could work alongside your mammies
03:20as traitors if you were in the castle?
03:21I feel like if there's one person, though,
03:23who I would trust with a secret as well,
03:24it'd be my man.
03:25They're good, you know what I mean?
03:26The Irish mammies,
03:27they're concealing some dark stuff,
03:29you know what I mean?
03:30Yeah.
03:31Generations.
03:31Generations and like...
03:33But it comes out when they have a wine,
03:35do you know what I mean?
03:36You'll have a wine with your mammy
03:37and you'll hear the grimmest thing
03:38you've ever heard in your life,
03:39do you know what I mean?
03:41Well, in that breakfast room that morning,
03:43suspicions were raised about Paudy
03:45and Andrew's matching mannerisms.
03:47Let's check it out.
03:48Obviously went into the room,
03:50envelope one thing,
03:51if you say yes,
03:51you need to join immediately.
03:53And I just gave the big one on account.
03:57How can you stand up and say,
03:59I did the big one, lads,
03:59I ripped up the letter?
04:00How can we trust what you're saying?
04:02You came in yesterday morning,
04:03you made a big show,
04:04tearing up the thing.
04:05Yeah.
04:05Okay?
04:05And we trusted you.
04:07Paudy, your reactions here
04:08are quite strange to me right now.
04:10Now, Nick really clung on
04:13to that matching thing.
04:15But if I was Paudy,
04:16I would've,
04:17because he was like,
04:18you know,
04:18why did you do that movement?
04:19And why did Andrew do that movement also?
04:22If I was them,
04:23I would've been like,
04:24lad, we were taking the piss out of you.
04:25Maybe if you were there in person,
04:27it meant more.
04:29Because I even missed that moment
04:31kind of when it happened
04:31because they were just explaining
04:32the way it went.
04:33But I suppose seeing
04:34the two people doing the actions
04:35at the one time,
04:36was there more in it?
04:36But like,
04:37I wouldn't have taken notice.
04:38But I would just go,
04:39how else do I rip up
04:41a piece of paper?
04:41Show me.
04:42How else are you going to do that movement?
04:45It was done very dramatically.
04:47Yeah, yeah.
04:47It looked like he was loading up a crossbow.
04:49But Nick is pretty cute
04:51to just spot that straight away.
04:53Like, I'd be shitting myself.
04:54Nick doesn't miss a trek.
04:54I think Nick throws enough shit around
04:57and it hits a wall eventually.
04:58Yeah.
05:00Like, that's the thing with Nick.
05:01Now onto the death row mission
05:02where actual death row
05:04might be the more glamorous option.
05:06What did you think of that mission?
05:08Hilarious.
05:09Hilarious.
05:09Firing them into the back of the trailer.
05:11They're brilliant.
05:11I wasn't expecting the amount
05:13of physical activity they were having.
05:14A lot of cardio.
05:15Yeah.
05:16A lot of cardio.
05:16Up and down the mountains.
05:17Yeah.
05:17They're on the moors.
05:18I was worried for a party.
05:19Like Heathcliff and Catherine.
05:20Yeah.
05:21Yeah.
05:21Heathcliff and Catherine.
05:22Yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:23I love the mission of having
05:24Siobhan McSweeney hammer
05:26the side of a corrugated fence.
05:28Do you know what I mean?
05:29That felt...
05:30That was great.
05:30That felt very like...
05:32I watched it.
05:32I was like,
05:32are we in Longford here?
05:34It reminded me a lot of Longford.
05:35Do we know how long
05:36they were inside the back of that trailer?
05:3816 days.
05:3916 days.
05:41Yeah, I like how we're in Slain Castle.
05:43There's loads of like...
05:44I'm sure there's a dungeon somewhere.
05:46Or a wine cellar.
05:48Whose decision was it
05:49to go to a horse box
05:50at the bottom of a field?
05:52Siobhan.
05:52Siobhan just wanted that moment.
05:54Yeah.
05:54It looked like a very artistic advert
05:56for farm safety.
05:58Do you know?
05:58With the masked men
05:59and Siobhan McSweeney going,
06:01silage can kill you at any time.
06:03So the four of them
06:03are trapped in the horse box together
06:06and like a middle-aged boy band
06:07forced to share a dressing room.
06:10They immediately turned on each other.
06:14I think you two are safe.
06:15I think you're going to be the first...
06:16Hold on.
06:17You're thinking that they have to choose.
06:20All I can say is
06:20I think I'm in with the two traitors.
06:21That's all I can say at the moment.
06:23Mark.
06:24You think you're with two traitors?
06:25Yeah.
06:25I'm not sure about you.
06:27I'm not going to lie.
06:27They immediately turned on each other.
06:30They started throwing like...
06:31Mark was like,
06:32I think I'm in here with two traitors.
06:34Patrick was pretty much...
06:35It was just decided
06:36there and then
06:37that he was a traitor.
06:38He does give a traitor vibes though.
06:39Let's be honest.
06:40Yeah.
06:41He's giving me a traitor vibes.
06:42This mission got quite personal.
06:44Christine got the ultimate burn.
06:45Christine is the life of the party.
06:47True or false?
06:48It's a false.
06:49I say false.
06:50It's a false.
06:52This way.
06:53This way.
06:54No.
06:55I can't believe that's true.
06:56Don't tell Christine I said false.
06:59That is the ultimate insult in this country.
07:02The question was basically
07:03is Christine good crack?
07:04No, no.
07:05She shit crack.
07:06She shit crack.
07:07I'm like, come on.
07:07Poor Christine.
07:09Better crack than her.
07:11My favourite part of the whole thing
07:13is when she gets saved
07:14and she goes to hug everyone
07:16who's basically
07:17she's like,
07:18oh, you're still up for elimination
07:19but like, give me a hug.
07:20And then she went to hug Patrick
07:21and he was having none of it.
07:23Yeah, yeah.
07:23It was hilarious.
07:24Yeah, Patrick was hugging
07:25like a mannequin.
07:26Yeah.
07:26You know what I mean?
07:26There was nothing back.
07:28There was nothing back.
07:28Well, stay with us
07:29as we'll be dissecting
07:30that divisive round table
07:31with Andrew
07:32and asking him
07:33all about that slip of the tongue.
07:44Welcome back to Uncloaked.
07:50I'm here with PJ,
07:51Kevin and Alison
07:52and I'm delighted
07:54to also welcome
07:55banished faithful
07:56turn trader
07:56their prodigal son
07:57Andrew.
08:02All the titles
08:04I want in my life.
08:06I mean,
08:06I got to play the game
08:07to the fullest experience
08:08I suppose.
08:09You got the best of both worlds.
08:10Absolutely.
08:10Or the worst of both worlds.
08:11How does it feel
08:13to get this far in the game?
08:15Good.
08:15It feels good.
08:16You kind of,
08:17at the start
08:18it's just kind of
08:18getting your feet on the ground
08:19trying to get to know people
08:21but then as you kind of
08:22get into the game a bit more
08:23you get to know people
08:24a bit better
08:24and then it kind of
08:26becomes a more about strategy
08:27and trying to build groups
08:28and trying to
08:28have conversations with people
08:30and that's when the game
08:31kind of really kicks off
08:32and that's what I like about it.
08:34While you only lasted
08:35less than 24 hours
08:36as a trader
08:37you were keeping
08:38a big secret
08:39from day one.
08:41I saw you first.
08:44I was totally shell-shocked.
08:45I got to speak
08:46to my son Andrew
08:47for the first time
08:49since we came
08:50into the castle.
08:51The first thing
08:51I was going to do
08:52was just have a look
08:53down along the line
08:54to see who was there.
08:55I look over
08:56I see my dad
08:57I actually did a double take
08:59almost had to verify
09:00that it was him
09:01when I saw him.
09:02Sorry there's so many names
09:03what's your own name?
09:04Roddy.
09:04How did it feel
09:06when you saw your dad
09:07in the line-up
09:08at the start?
09:09Oh
09:09I mean
09:10it's kind of
09:12mixed emotions
09:12because the first thing
09:13you're thinking is
09:14I don't want to
09:15let anyone else know
09:16that I have someone in here
09:17that I can trust
09:18and so
09:19because everyone's
09:20looking for nothing
09:21at the start
09:22everyone's clutching
09:23their straws
09:24even before
09:24well I was
09:25even before the game
09:26begins
09:26you're like
09:26who can I
09:27instantly trust
09:28because obviously
09:29you
09:29we all do it
09:31consciously or unconsciously
09:32you look at someone
09:33and you make an assumption
09:34based on
09:35who you think they are
09:36whether or not you like them
09:36or otherwise
09:37and most likely
09:38unconsciously
09:39and you're kind of
09:40looking around
09:40and you don't
09:41I didn't want to be seen
09:42to be looking at him too much
09:43or almost to be seen to be
09:45caught off guard
09:47or caught in the hot by him
09:49so
09:49yeah
09:50I gave him a glance
09:51and I was like
09:52oh bollocks
09:52and then kind of
09:53turned back
09:54and then it was just
09:55all a whirlwind from there
09:56to be honest
09:57when you saw him
09:58was that the point
09:58where you were like
09:59I'm going to
10:00pretend to be from Cork now
10:01no actually
10:02inappropriate culture
10:03by pure
10:04you just wanted to know
10:05what it was like
10:06you just wanted to know
10:07what it was like
10:08being a Cork man for a day
10:09that's what it was
10:10everyone's trying to
10:11jump on the bandwagon
10:12can I make a confession guys
10:13I've always wanted
10:14no I'm joking
10:15everyone in Ireland
10:16kind of does
10:17how did he do
10:18at portraying
10:19I thought he did well
10:20I think you fared
10:20fairly well
10:21did I yeah
10:22the limerick and the Cork accent
10:23anyway aren't too far apart
10:24now I would have just thought
10:25Ireland is so small
10:26that you wouldn't be able
10:27to get away with
10:28lies like that
10:29in the game
10:29you know
10:30because I'd be like
10:31oh where'd you go to school
10:32I was waiting for Christine
10:33to come at you
10:34how did you not get
10:36a million questions
10:36from Christine
10:37I don't know
10:38because Christine's
10:39full of questions
10:39and full of chat
10:40she never shut up
10:42that's the thing
10:42yeah it's funny
10:43I was in there
10:44and I said to
10:46oh jeez was it AIM
10:47and day one I walked in
10:48I was like
10:48oh yeah I'm from
10:49Inchigila in Cork
10:50that's where my wife is from
10:51I was like oh I'm from
10:52Inchigila
10:52he goes do you know
10:53this pub
10:53and I was like
10:54no
10:55I mean yeah
10:57yeah
10:58it closed down there recently
10:59oh did it yeah
11:00he was like do you know
11:01this person
11:01and then I spoke to Linda
11:02and she was like
11:03oh my granny's from
11:04Bellinghearie
11:05just down the road
11:05and I was like
11:06oh my god
11:07okay I need to get rid
11:08of you two quickly
11:09this loose end
11:11do you know who my father
11:13is now
11:13Roy Keane
11:14oh yeah
11:15let me tell you
11:16about my mad footballing
11:18my mad Sonia O'Sullivan
11:19nobody can catch me
11:21on this one
11:22I have to say
11:23this has to be
11:24one of my favourite clips
11:26unfortunately
11:27I think we had
11:28a daddy moment
11:29daddy
11:30I let slip
11:32and I
11:32blurted out daddy
11:34daddy
11:34when he did call me daddy
11:36which was low
11:38and
11:39and I think
11:40maybe
11:40we might have gotten away with it
11:42Andrew what age are you
11:43where you still call
11:44your father daddy
11:44will you always call him daddy
11:46always
11:46like I always
11:47call like him
11:48when I'm speaking to him
11:49I call him daddy
11:50yeah
11:50whereas if I'm speaking about him
11:51it's dad
11:52yeah
11:52or when I'm in the traders
11:54I call him potty
11:55because I have to
11:55compartmentalise my trauma
11:57so
11:57daddy march
11:59coming when
12:00can we ask
12:00I think it would be remiss of you
12:02to not release some daddy march
12:03I buy a daddy cap
12:05have you checked the lads group chat
12:08since that happened
12:08like are you getting raked over the coals
12:10in the lads group chat
12:11since daddy games
12:12I was always getting raked over the coals
12:13there was just
12:14more fuel to the fire
12:15you'll never live in that zone
12:16you'll be getting sent pictures
12:19of scrub daddies
12:20you know
12:21the little
12:21I don't
12:22put your face on it
12:23now I will
12:24like how on earth
12:26did you and your dad
12:27end up in the same show
12:28without no one
12:29I threw the link
12:30into the family chat
12:31because we all like it
12:33and then he got a thumbs up
12:34from him
12:34so I was like
12:35Grant
12:35that's the ultimate daddy reply
12:37that's an essay
12:38yeah
12:39that is
12:40I'm entering this
12:41and I hope you do too
12:43so then I applied
12:44and then
12:45he goes
12:46I think it was him
12:47where I asked the question first
12:48he was like
12:48so do you hear anything back
12:49and I said no
12:50and he said same
12:51and that was it
12:52because you're told early
12:54you're told
12:55don't tell anyone
12:56keep it shtum
12:57keep it to one person
12:58so I kept it to my wife
12:59and
13:00he obviously kept it to his wife
13:02my man
13:02how did the conversation go
13:03with your wife
13:04when you were telling her
13:05you were applying
13:06I just applied
13:07and
13:08kind of kept going
13:09through the stages
13:09and I was like
13:10this is kind of getting closer
13:11and closer to like
13:11maybe getting it
13:12and
13:13when I got it
13:14she was so excited
13:15we phoned out actually
13:16a week before
13:17I went into the castle
13:18that we're expecting
13:19oh my god
13:22exclusive here
13:23a week or so
13:25you're going to become daddy
13:26I'm going to become daddy
13:27oh my god
13:28that's amazing
13:29it's like pokemon
13:30I evolved through the traders
13:33and I've become daddy mon
13:35what was it comforting
13:36knowing that your dad
13:37was in there
13:38daddy would take care of me
13:41daddy would provide
13:42daddy would provide
13:43he'd go out hunting and gathering
13:45and I'd be just
13:46daddy help
13:47to be honest
13:49when I was pushed out there
13:50getting rid of two people
13:51I almost went to the turn to
13:52and be like
13:52daddy
13:53he's a great bluffer
13:55has he always been that way
13:58um yeah
13:58yeah
13:59there was a couple of times
14:00where you asked him
14:01like are you a traitor
14:02and he was like no
14:03firstly
14:04what are you
14:05oh absolutely
14:08100% faithful
14:09yeah
14:09absolutely
14:09yeah
14:10I'm faithful as well
14:11okay yeah
14:11did you suspect
14:13he was lying to you
14:14lying bastard
14:15no no I didn't
14:17in all fairness
14:17I actually didn't
14:18really
14:18because I thought I saw
14:20like a little smirk
14:21at first
14:22at first
14:23like
14:23there was a bit of suspicion
14:25yeah
14:25and then
14:26at the round tables
14:27he just
14:28wasn't himself
14:30like he was just like
14:31kind of
14:32interrupting people
14:32and
14:33and kind of like
14:34no no no
14:35getting kind of
14:36I suppose
14:37animated about things
14:38and I was like
14:39like you get animated
14:41we all get animated
14:41playing games
14:42but
14:42not like that
14:44yeah
14:44and that's when I was like
14:45okay you could be a traitor
14:46there's actually one day
14:47inside there I was like
14:48oh god I'm going to have to
14:49potentially vote for him
14:50and I was like
14:50I don't want to do that
14:52you know
14:52so I was like
14:53and then it kind of
14:54it dawned on me as well
14:55that if he was a traitor
14:56I'm in a really strong position
14:59to inherit
15:00yeah
15:01I'm getting to win that money
15:05we're just playing the long game
15:08the long game
15:08the long game
15:09the long con
15:10I think he's innocent
15:11you've been getting a nice holiday
15:14out of the day
15:14do you know what I mean
15:15you're allowed one
15:16tax free gift
15:17yeah there you go
15:19brilliant
15:19how stressful was it
15:22I don't know if you saw it there
15:23but towards the end of the episode
15:24I was losing the will to live
15:25so it gets pretty stressful
15:26and you're inside
15:28and I suppose
15:29when you're a faithful
15:30I was always
15:31self-assured in that
15:33I'm faithful
15:33I know that
15:34if I'm banished
15:35I'll just stand up there
15:36and say
15:36thank you all
15:37I'm a faithful
15:38and then
15:39when you're a traitor
15:40you're just thinking
15:40oh bollocks
15:41I'm going to stand up there
15:42sounding like a complete arse
15:44and telling everyone
15:45I've just been manipulating me
15:46for the last
15:46seven nights or so
15:48and I'm a traitor
15:49and then that's when
15:50it gets stressful
15:51because you're like
15:51I don't want that
15:53have you noticed though
15:54when everyone's admitting
15:55they're a traitor
15:55they kind of say it
15:56with a bit of glee
15:57oh yeah
15:58and then they're gone
15:59like they are gone
16:00just dropping the bomb
16:01and just walking away
16:02yeah
16:03I don't know
16:04I don't know if I would have
16:04had the guile
16:05to be a traitor
16:06for as long as others
16:08have done it
16:09or even just from the start
16:10it was just something else
16:11well
16:12Daddy was protecting you
16:14from the get go
16:15let's remind ourselves
16:16I feel like Andrew
16:17is
16:18a real sweetheart
16:20like he's
16:21no one is suspecting him
16:22right now
16:22no
16:22I would like to take
16:24Andrew out at some stage
16:25he's very perceptive
16:29I just don't know
16:30if the timing is right
16:31I was actually thinking of
16:32calming it down a little bit
16:34taking out someone
16:35who isn't very high profile
16:37but you see
16:38Andrew came up with the 2AE too
16:39look
16:41yeah
16:42I understand
16:44did you think you had
16:45a guardian angel
16:46in the conclave?
16:47100%
16:47after
16:48like
16:48after a while
16:50I had suspicions on him
16:51and then when I wasn't
16:52being murdered
16:52and there was no heat
16:53in me at the table
16:54I would have been an easy out
16:56for traitors to murder
16:57because I thought
16:58well he's not going to get banished
16:59so you always
17:00as a traitor
17:01in my head
17:02you always try and
17:02get rid of the ones
17:03who aren't going to be banished
17:03you have two ways
17:04of getting rid of people
17:05banishment and murder
17:06you try and manipulate
17:07the banishments
17:08and you try and
17:08you're doing the murders
17:09so I thought
17:11something's going on
17:13the longer I was there
17:15and
17:16people were saying
17:17like
17:18even Caitlin saying
17:19oh he's very perceptive
17:20like
17:21that puts a target
17:22on your back
17:23for the traitors
17:23especially if they don't think
17:24you're going to get banished
17:25I know Eamon will say that
17:26Paulie was out of control
17:28he was a loose cannon
17:29but I think he was acting innocent
17:31wild card
17:31he was a wild card
17:32but he was acting like
17:33an innocent man
17:34yeah I know he was
17:35and that there is
17:36another thing to make me
17:38more suspicious of him
17:39like he's not the innocent
17:41old man
17:41actually I think day one or two
17:43he came to me
17:44and I was like
17:44do you have any suspicions
17:46of anyone
17:46or why are you not
17:47getting involved in conversations
17:48because no one's involving me
17:49and I'm like
17:50involve yourself
17:51you're not shy of having
17:53a conversation with someone
17:54there were times
17:55where like
17:55he was flying off the handle
17:57were there times
17:57where you were slightly
17:58mortified by him
17:59no I was just worried
18:00that they'd banish him
18:01because he was flying off the handle
18:03definitely wasn't mortified
18:04because he was a hoot
18:05do you think he was
18:06premature in recruiting you?
18:10I think
18:10maybe two things
18:12he could have been worried
18:13that I was going to go
18:14and wanted to give me
18:14the experience of the game
18:16and wanted me to have
18:17the experience of the conclave
18:18as well as
18:19the actual faithful side of things
18:21the second and more
18:24grim answer is
18:26that he just wanted
18:26to throw me underneath the bus
18:27but I don't think it was that
18:30I really don't think
18:31I think he missed his boy
18:33I think he just wanted
18:34to have a lovely little
18:35intimate conclave
18:36with his son
18:37I guarantee
18:38Christmas dinner though
18:39this is all coming back up
18:41oh yeah
18:41you knew what you were doing dad
18:43why knew what you were doing
18:45you thought you were
18:46in a circle of trust
18:47with Ben and Nick
18:48but they had
18:49other plans
18:50on the way over
18:52to the mission
18:52me and Andrew
18:53and Ben
18:54we are talking gameplay
18:55and how we'll stick together
18:56and be a loyal tree
18:57but on the way back
18:59from the mission
18:59Mark brings a few points
19:00about Andrew
19:01me and Ben decide
19:02look this is our chance
19:03to maybe get Andrew
19:03out of the game
19:04he's a great player
19:05he might be a traitor
19:06he might be a faithful
19:06he's going to be completely
19:08oh he will not be expected
19:10it's going to be class
19:11I went for yourself Andy
19:12just because
19:14the fact that you said
19:15we're here to hunt
19:15tryers
19:16and lawyers
19:17and you caught one
19:18and you never went after
19:19so I feel that's a bit susy
19:21Andrew
19:22just for points I raised
19:24probably too late
19:26but hopefully you can
19:28explain it tomorrow
19:28now how did that make you feel
19:31it's tough to watch back
19:33because you're
19:34obviously you had
19:35built up a trust
19:36well
19:36you thought you built up a trust
19:38you thought you built up a trust
19:40and
19:41previously they had said
19:42okay this is potentially
19:43the trio that could go far
19:45as a group of faithfuls
19:46and
19:47I knew Nick
19:49wasn't
19:50I knew he
19:50he didn't take the seduction
19:52that he was very much
19:53being himself with that
19:54and so
19:55it's kind of like
19:56oh it's
19:57it's difficult to take in
19:58but at the same time
20:00you have to just
20:02like remind yourself
20:02it's a game
20:03they are playing the game
20:05and
20:06regardless of whether or not
20:07we like how they played it
20:08they played it
20:09and
20:09and I just happened
20:10it could have been anyone
20:12who happened to be the victim
20:12and it just so happened to be me
20:14and
20:15this is what I thought
20:17was quite funny about it
20:17I was kind of doing the same thing
20:19to Patrick
20:19I was kind of saying
20:21well go for Patrick
20:22even though I knew
20:23that he was a faithful
20:24as a trader
20:25I was like
20:26go for Patrick
20:26it's 100% Patrick
20:28I was like
20:28it has to be him
20:29and
20:30you know
20:32I knew it wasn't
20:32so it's just
20:33it's just playing the game
20:34when you and Patrick
20:35were given
20:36your closing arguments
20:37at the round table
20:38like it wasn't exactly
20:39a scene from a John Grisham novel
20:41let's have a look
20:43I just want to let you know
20:45I am a faithful
20:46I have been trying
20:47to get faith
20:48to trying to get
20:49traitors
20:49out of this game
20:51Andrew
20:52God love you
20:53at that stage
20:55did you dirty there
20:56what's that
20:56the sound department
20:57did you dirty
20:57they added like a boom
21:00when you made them a thing
21:02it sounded like
21:04kitchen nightmares
21:05when they find a rat
21:06you know what I mean
21:07boom
21:07oh my god
21:10I feel so sorry for you Andrew
21:11because you literally
21:12you turned the closing argument
21:14on yourself
21:15you know what I mean
21:16that's what happened there
21:17and even though
21:17before the strategy
21:18behind the horse box
21:20was trying to get
21:21everyone to think
21:21okay Patrick has put himself
21:23in there as a traitor
21:24and I can maybe turn it
21:26that way at the round table
21:27and it like
21:28the night before
21:29I think one person
21:31voted for Patrick
21:31and then it was a split vote
21:33between the two of us
21:34so it almost paid off
21:35your dad obviously
21:37was sad
21:38to see you go
21:39let's have a look
21:39I hated seeing him
21:41in that position
21:42I hated it
21:43I had to celebrate
21:44I had to go around
21:45doing high fives
21:46and it was very
21:47very difficult
21:48your dad did not
21:50change his vote
21:51and it would have been
21:51more advantageous
21:52to him
21:53to change his vote
21:54in the second round
21:55and he didn't do it
21:56because he loves you
21:57and that's so lovely
21:59and I love him back
22:00this is the hoops
22:01that we have to go through
22:02to get love from our father
22:03we have to go
22:05not Andrew
22:06attempted murder
22:07I just had to get on
22:09a reality TV show
22:10that's all I had to do
22:11are you proud of me dad
22:12I am now
22:13I've been trying to relate
22:14to you Andrew
22:15all day
22:16being oh Jesus
22:16dad's alive
22:17and you're like
22:17actually my dad's quite nice
22:18I had DVDs
22:20of my TV series
22:21I showed to my dad
22:22and I go
22:22dad what do you think
22:23of the TV series
22:24and he goes
22:24well Alison
22:25it's not really aimed
22:26at me is it
22:27and I was like
22:28everything's aimed
22:29at you daddy
22:30everything
22:31so I'm very happy
22:33for you
22:33can we give another
22:35special mention
22:36to Oyan
22:36who has been
22:37on fire
22:38with her predictions
22:39she correctly
22:40identified you
22:41as being a traitor
22:42immediately
22:43and she mentioned
22:44that she thinks
22:45Poddy could be a traitor
22:46at breakfast
22:46like she's unreal
22:48I think she might be psychic
22:49Oyan was brilliant
22:50she had the idea
22:51as well
22:52at the start
22:52that there potentially
22:54were three traitors
22:55at each other's throats
22:57like super perceptive
22:58quiet
22:59and actually
22:59in my going away speech
23:00about having your voice
23:01and kind of speaking up
23:02a bit more
23:02it was half directed
23:03to Oyan
23:04because she had
23:04so many good takes
23:07and she just wasn't
23:08no
23:09who am I
23:10to tell her
23:10how to play the game
23:11but like
23:11get your voice out there
23:12because they were
23:13such great takes
23:14Alison
23:14who would you recruit
23:15if you were in
23:16Poddy's lovely shoes
23:17long term now
23:18I would go Patrick
23:19and then throw him
23:20under the bus
23:21and then I would get
23:22then I would get
23:24our lovely estate agent
23:25and Nick
23:27and I'd keep him in
23:28and then Oyan
23:29and Oyan would have
23:31the choice
23:31to either kill herself
23:32or go
23:33and then
23:34I would turn on Nick
23:36and it would be me
23:37and Oyan
23:37and we'd be sharing
23:38our lovely money
23:39at the end
23:40that would be the vibe
23:41well thank you very much
23:42to Andrew
23:43Alison
23:44PJ and Kevin
23:45I'll be back
23:48tomorrow night
23:48with another couch
23:49full of Traitor Superfans
23:50alongside the banished
23:51and murdered players
23:52goodnight
23:53we'll be back
24:04everybody
24:07I want to go
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