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00:00Hello and welcome to the Traitors Ireland Uncloaked, the official Traitors After Show with me, Kevin McGarren.
00:06Tonight's episode of the Traitors had more paranoia than a Garda checkpoint outside Electric Picnic.
00:11And after heartlessly murdering five people, we finally found where Poddy draws the line.
00:17I'm not being fucking smart here, right? I'm not a fucking whore girl.
00:21Stay with us, as we'll be joined later by the murdered Mark and the banished Patrick,
00:25and we'll get to see the moment the Traitors' secrets were uncloaked.
00:28Jesus Christ.
00:30Game over. I'm glad I'm going. I'm off. Oh, lads.
00:40But now I'm here with Shanice Griffin and Mike Rye.
00:43Hey!
00:46Folks, you are very, very welcome to the show.
00:48Thank you for having us.
00:49Nick was a busy man in that episode.
00:51I'm telling you.
00:52Blackmailed at the start and killing in plain sight by the end.
00:55How do you think he did?
00:56Do you know what? I think it came quite naturally to him.
01:00And he was very excited to do it as well.
01:02You're such a good boy as well.
01:03Yeah. I'm a Traitors slayer and now I'm a faithful slayer.
01:07Oh, that got me. That comment got me.
01:10But I think it came quite naturally to him.
01:12It did, weirdly.
01:12Like a little bit unnervingly how comfortable he was.
01:15There was a bit of the Patrick Batemans about Nick.
01:19There was a chilling psychopathy now to the way he went on.
01:22I'd say he has a good skincare routine.
01:24Oh, 100%.
01:25And he has little business cards made of eggshells and all sorts.
01:28Because you know there was eye rolls all around the nation when he talked about,
01:32you know, it's like hitting a 65 on the golf course.
01:34Oh, yeah.
01:36I put myself right back in this race to win it.
01:38My game plan, if I execute it, it'll be like shooting a 65 around the golf course on the weekend.
01:43Like you'll feel great about it.
01:45What did we think of that hug?
01:48Oh, like I think it came as such a perfect time.
01:53I think he was kind of like worrying about how he was going to go about hugging someone.
01:58Did he had a plan who he was going to hug?
02:00Or was he just waiting for a hugging opportunity?
02:01He goes about Christine, wasn't it?
02:04He was like, yeah, I'll do her, no bother.
02:06Basically, like, that's no skin off my bag.
02:09So I think he's like very quick to just kill anyone off as long as he gets ahead in the game.
02:14And then she came in.
02:15You're like a brother.
02:16You're like a brother to me.
02:19Yeah.
02:19Brother that bloody blows your head off.
02:22Poor Patrick got banished.
02:24Not surprising, given this was the reaction when he walked into the breakfast room that morning.
02:30Oh, brilliant.
02:33On your own.
02:40Sorry, Patrick.
02:41Jesus Christ, sorry.
02:42Sorry, Patrick.
02:45Sorry, Patrick.
02:46They said, you know, they said, they're like, sorry that we hate you.
02:50But we do, yeah.
02:51As a fellow empath, I just wanted to hug Patrick.
02:53Because he just looked like the world was against him in that moment.
02:57And I was like, oh, man.
02:58Well, your dreams will come true.
02:59Because Patrick will be sitting on that.
03:01In less than 20 minutes.
03:03And when he comes in, we're going to give him a round.
03:05Like, Christ.
03:05A round of applause.
03:07Christ has returned.
03:08Because he deserves it.
03:09Do you think you'd be a good traitor?
03:12Oh, but right.
03:13So, I feel like I'm a faithful in everyday life.
03:16I'm such an emotional person.
03:18I'm such a softie.
03:19If someone came at me and was grilling me at the table, I'd cry.
03:22I feel like that's a good tactic.
03:24Really?
03:25Yeah, I think, like, the best way to get out of an argument is to start crying.
03:28A few tears.
03:29A few crocodile tears now.
03:30I'd be similar in that.
03:31My face would give away everything.
03:33I think I'd have a very evil thing.
03:35I think I'd be around the round table and they'd be looking at me.
03:38And I'd be like, oh, you know what I mean?
03:39Like a little goblin, man.
03:40Like, I think I'd go full goblin.
03:42And they'd be like, why are you doing that?
03:43I'd be like, no reason.
03:45None of your business.
03:46Tonight's episode started with Pawdy uncloaking his identity as a traitor to none other than Nick.
03:59Nick, you noticed me.
04:00I know, dude.
04:01Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:02How are you?
04:02I'm not too bad.
04:03I'm good.
04:04Nick's reaction was as underwhelming as if he just found out the true identity of Gossip Girl.
04:08Oh, oh, that's not underwhelming.
04:10Do you get that reference, Mike?
04:11Of course, Blake Lively.
04:13Yeah.
04:14I think I didn't watch Gossip Girl, brother.
04:16As I call it, the Bible.
04:18I tell you, if Mother Teresa herself, if she took off her cloak there and was like, it's me, he would have just been like, knew it.
04:25Yeah.
04:25Bloody knew it.
04:26Had an inkling.
04:27Had an inkling.
04:27Had an inkling.
04:28Now, knew it all along.
04:30What do you think of Nick's reaction there?
04:31I just find it hilarious that he uncloaks himself and he's like, so basically your ultimatum is you join the team or you die.
04:39And then Nick's like, oh, yeah, that's a lot to think about.
04:42Like, let me think, am I actually going to kill myself off?
04:45You knew what you were going to do.
04:46Yeah, 100%.
04:47Okay, Nick and Poddy, do you think they'll make a good duel?
04:50Yeah, they will.
04:51But I think at any given time, I think Nick is going to throw Poddy under the bus.
04:55Because Poddy's still flying under the radar.
04:58He's still getting away with it.
04:59His wings are not clipped at all.
05:01Like, Nick's doing all the work.
05:03He's going fine in the bus.
05:05He's going, hugging the people.
05:06And Poddy's just sitting there.
05:07He's just drinking tea.
05:08Yeah.
05:08You just do it for me.
05:09I think he's the people's champion.
05:11Yeah.
05:12And it'd be great to see it.
05:15Because everyone knows an old liar.
05:17Yeah.
05:17And we like an old liar.
05:19There's nothing worse than an owl lad that tells the truth.
05:21You want a lad who makes up stuff.
05:23Yeah.
05:23You know, then kind of minces around and gets away with stuff.
05:25I'm rooting for him.
05:26I hope he wins.
05:27I'm rooting for him too.
05:27Yeah, I hope he wins.
05:29Their first gig as Bonnie and Clyde was to place a pishogue on a fellow player.
05:32And it nearly became Mission Impossible.
05:34I told Poddy to keep sketch there.
05:40See if anyone's coming and let me know while I'm frantically looking for the book.
05:46The Long Goodbye.
05:49You can place a pishogue on a faithful player by giving them a farewell hug.
05:55Okay.
05:56You have to hug the player.
05:58Hmm?
05:58You have to hug a player.
06:00Before the clock chimes.
06:02Oh, fuck off.
06:04It has to be.
06:08Will.
06:09Joanna.
06:10Tristine.
06:12I'm not being fucking smart here, right?
06:14I'm not a fucking hulker.
06:16I know.
06:16I left that other wine there.
06:18You're so like a brother.
06:19I'm actually, we were only just saying there, your wife is so lucky.
06:21Like, you're such a gent.
06:23Is that possibly the worst line you can say?
06:25That couldn't have came at a better time.
06:26Yeah.
06:27That couldn't have came at a better time.
06:28As he killed her slowly but surely in his arms.
06:32And she's like, yeah, I love you like a brother.
06:35Like, you're just the best person.
06:36You're such a trustworthy, like, good spirit.
06:38But you know what?
06:40She was talking out of the side of her mouth as well because she had just been down in the little, you know, the witches around the cauldron.
06:47And she was saying that Nick and Ben were dodgy.
06:51Yeah, yeah, yeah.
06:52Then she comes in like, butter wouldn't melt.
06:55Lying like, you know.
06:57Mother, brother.
06:57Yeah.
06:58We appreciate how stressed Poddy looked when he found out he had to hug somebody.
07:05Yeah, it's going to be a very cathartic moment for the nation of Ireland.
07:09Like, Poddy's reaction to the hug.
07:12Because if the task had been, we're going to put you in the middle of a ring covered in honey and send out seven grizzly bears.
07:20I think he'd go, send me in so.
07:21And then do a hug.
07:24Ah, for fuck.
07:26The sweat pouring off him.
07:27And even, that would have been a horror scene.
07:29So many fathers in Ireland were squirming in their chest.
07:34The things they try to make you do on television.
07:36After the break, we'll be chatting to the murdered Mark and the banished Patrick.
07:40Don't go anywhere.
07:41Welcome back to Uncloaked.
07:52I'm here with Shanice and Mike.
07:53And look, who has joined us in the attic.
07:55It's Mark and Patrick.
07:59Yes.
08:00Lads, delighted to have you here.
08:02Mark, you were deemed very perceptive from day one.
08:06Did you find it easy to read people?
08:08I did, yeah.
08:08Something I've always spoken about is I think I can read people very well.
08:14And I think I've proven that kind of a thing, yeah.
08:17And you're no slouch in that department yourself, Patrick.
08:21Did you work as a pit boss when you were in Las Vegas?
08:24So, I mean, I started my career dealing cards as a croupier,
08:28but worked my way up to being a casino manager in numerous places.
08:32So do you think that made you quite good at reading people,
08:35spotting liars, spotting deceivers?
08:36Reading crowds and then individuals.
08:40But you're part of the casino industry is reading these people in front of you
08:43because when there's so much money on the table, literally,
08:47people are taking a shot at you every day.
08:48Well, before we go any further, I just love this clip of you both finding out
08:52who the traitors are.
08:54You had very different reactions.
08:55The traitors.
08:57Let's see.
08:59So.
09:01Pawdy.
09:01Top of the list.
09:02Got it.
09:03Makes sense.
09:04Pawdy is just hanging in the background, hiding in the shadows.
09:09People just trust him because it's Pawdy.
09:11Pawdy?
09:12I can't be that good.
09:13He must have been recruited.
09:14Seriously.
09:15There's no way he would have been already as well.
09:17Next one is Nick.
09:19No surprise.
09:20My guess is that Nick was recruited, if not blackmailed.
09:25You know, the issue with Nick is he's Mr. Popular.
09:28It's going to be tough for the girls to believe that he has turned
09:33because everyone likes him.
09:35Mr. Likeable.
09:37Jesus Christ.
09:39Nick.
09:41Yeah.
09:41Just give him the money now, honestly.
09:43Everybody go home.
09:44Talk to your families.
09:45Just give him the money.
09:47Honour to God.
09:48Lads.
09:50I knew it.
09:52Game over.
09:52I'm glad I'm going.
09:53I'm not.
09:54Oh, lads.
09:56That is so reaction.
09:59I did wonder.
10:01I feel like these would have been great traitors together.
10:04Yeah, I would have loved to have seen that.
10:06We can.
10:06Season two is not far away.
10:08I'm happy.
10:09Mark, you seem genuinely flabbergasted by those revelations.
10:12But Patrick, your gassed remain completely unflabbered.
10:15Well, if you think back to the final table that I was at, I called both of them out.
10:22You did?
10:22I connected those dots.
10:23Yeah.
10:24I saw the connection.
10:25So back to, you know, I was finally warming up and those intuitions are finally coming back.
10:30You were kicking in.
10:30You were connecting the dots and you were like, this is what it is.
10:33Yeah, no doubt.
10:35And then it was too little, too late.
10:36It was too little, too late.
10:38But I still walk out head high going, I had him.
10:41Did you feel, Mark, like, because you were so popular within the group and so likable,
10:47did part of you in your mind think, well, this is going to put a target on me because
10:52the more influential people the traitors are going to want out?
10:55Yeah, no, look, I had a plan kind of a thing.
10:58So my thing was, I told people I could lipread.
11:00So that put a target on my back.
11:02What are you doing?
11:03I knew I was in trouble.
11:04So I said, you know what?
11:05Just go for it.
11:05Just try and prove that you can read people and whatever expressions.
11:09And I did.
11:10But my problem was then, because I got party and then Eamon straight away, when Eamon left,
11:15I said to myself, it can't be party then because Eamon was.
11:19So I kind of got the first two people.
11:21So I was like, wait a minute.
11:22But the problem is you're left on your own for so long that you're trying to doubt yourself.
11:26Yes.
11:27Even though I knew I was right.
11:28Yeah.
11:29You shouldn't be left on your own.
11:30But even when you were in the trailer for the death row thing and you were like,
11:34I feel like I'm here with two traitors.
11:36So the reason for that, so again, we were there for so long in the trailer.
11:40Like, we didn't know what was going on or whatever.
11:42So again, you're starting to think, I'm like, why is Patrick here?
11:44Yeah.
11:44So if I was on seven round tables, three of them, Patrick would come up to me before
11:48and go, you're right about party, let's go for party.
11:50And then he'd go, Linda.
11:52And I'm like.
11:53And you started doubting him.
11:54Yeah, but he was telling me that he was going for party.
11:56If I go for party, so I go for party and then Linda, I'm like, wait, what?
12:00So I'm in the trailer going, is that a traitor move?
12:03Oh, you have to be a traitor.
12:04Just give me the envelope now.
12:06That's where I was going.
12:07You did.
12:07You did.
12:08Why, Patrick, did you do that?
12:10So who knows what was going through any of our minds?
12:13Right.
12:13Through those days.
12:14Yes.
12:15But one thing I had said to myself and to others, that I wasn't going to make my mind up any
12:21day until the final table.
12:22Until, because if you go in in the morning and say, well, I'm going to vote for that person.
12:27But then you've wasted an entire day of gathering information.
12:30Yeah.
12:30Yes.
12:31I think the opposite now.
12:32I think you should have your idea made.
12:34And then thrown in on white.
12:35Because what you're hearing in there is secondhand and second this.
12:38But you know what you've been through that day.
12:40So you know that, yeah, I'm back in this.
12:42And don't let anyone change their mind.
12:43How did it feel being on death row?
12:45What was going through your mind?
12:47Betrayed.
12:48It was an experience.
12:49Like, you know, you don't know what's going on.
12:50Especially when Christine got saved.
12:52We're listening to people go, ma, Christine.
12:54I'm like, yeah.
12:55No, obviously I'm not.
12:56I can't hear it.
12:56I'm like, but yeah.
12:57Then Christine left.
12:58And I'm kind of like, it's you, isn't it, Patrick?
13:01Yeah.
13:01I have no reason to think it's Joe.
13:02I think it's Joe, isn't it?
13:04Because you've done much like, you know what I mean?
13:06You've had different theories and that.
13:07Well, you had so many people backing you and wanting to save you as well, but they didn't get the first shot.
13:11When you had Andrew and Pardy in that crew, I knew they weren't going to pick me because like, you know, I had it out with both of them.
13:17It was a smart move putting all faithfuls in the trailer.
13:22People are always thinking about bluffs and double bluffs.
13:25And it just, everyone got it in their head that there must be a traitor in the shed.
13:30And it's probably what knocked you out.
13:32It's the assumption that one of them has to be a traitor.
13:35Has to be.
13:36Must be Patrick.
13:37Yeah.
13:37It's like false logic.
13:38Yeah.
13:38I had no idea what was going on in that trailer.
13:41And that was the worst part about being in the trailer.
13:43We had no idea.
13:44Did it smell bad in there?
13:46Well, no, he actually showered that morning.
13:52They weren't out of that part of the trailer.
13:53It was like an old horse box to me.
13:55I was like, what kind of a place are they putting bluffs in?
13:57But we had no clue.
13:58We had no clue what was about to happen.
14:00And even when Christine was taken out, we still had no clue what was going to happen.
14:05We wondered, are we all just dead?
14:08Yeah, yeah, yeah.
14:09Is this limbo?
14:09We had no idea.
14:10Mark, you had the lady's attention very early on as well.
14:14You were like Paul Mescal at a bottomless brunch.
14:27Yeah, you had them eaten out of your hands.
14:29It was mescalian.
14:30It was mescalian.
14:31It was.
14:33Was that a tactic to get in with the ladies straight away?
14:36No, I just wanted to get in with everybody.
14:37Like, you know what I mean?
14:38Just show that I'm a team player kind of a thing and just talk to everybody.
14:41You know, that kind of word.
14:42But yeah, no, there was no game plan.
14:43Honestly, everyone said that, but they want to be a traitor when they go in.
14:46Yeah.
14:46I had a couple of moves if I was going to be a traitor.
14:48So when I was a faithful, I was like, right, what do I do?
14:51Look, just go for it.
14:51And yeah, like that, look, it's just women sitting there and there's four lads over there.
14:55You're going to sit and put it in there.
14:56Yeah, you do.
14:58Common sense.
14:58Would you have been, Mark, if they recruited you now, would you have been buzzing to be recruited?
15:03100%.
15:04Yeah.
15:05I wanted to play both sides because one of the things I did as well, right, I left that cast
15:10of not knowing anyone's surnames or if they were married because I wanted to be ready to turn.
15:15So if someone said to me, oh, I need the money for my kids or whatever, I feel bad about treating them.
15:20So I said, don't act on anything personal.
15:22Yeah.
15:22Just be ready.
15:23Just be ready.
15:24And if you're a traitor, then you're ready to go.
15:26You can just switch like that.
15:26Switch like that and go.
15:27Yeah.
15:27Yeah, just pretend they're not humans.
15:29They don't have lines.
15:31Nobody needs the money.
15:32Patrick's ready to be a traitor.
15:33He's like, get me in here.
15:34They're just livestock, Patrick.
15:36Just talking about Mark's strategy there.
15:38They have no emotions.
15:40They don't need the money.
15:41They have no family.
15:42Don't worry about it.
15:43I don't mind killing you off.
15:44We'll throw that question back to you.
15:46Would you be delighted to be a traitor, Lee?
15:48Oh, I said that from day one.
15:50From day one, yeah.
15:51In my mind, there's a huge advantage to being a traitor.
15:54There really is.
15:55And if you're going to do this, if you're in it to win it, if you're here to compete and you're here to win, it's a huge benefit to being a traitor.
16:04Well, did you have a bit of an alliance, you two?
16:07We spoke a lot.
16:07Yeah.
16:08We did.
16:08But whether, like I was saying, he was coming up to me, he'd go for a party.
16:12And that was in the back of my mind.
16:13I was like, he could be doing something.
16:15But I still felt like we talked a lot.
16:17I would have went to Patrick or Nick, were my two people, I would have went to, and Vanessa.
16:21Because Vanessa was in the car with me as well.
16:23So I would have spoken a lot of my gameplay with Patrick, Nick, and Vanessa.
16:27So gameplay, yes.
16:29I mean, an alliance, no.
16:30I don't think there was an alliance with anyone.
16:31So not as if we said, hey, listen, let's not vote for each other.
16:34Sure.
16:35But was there a level of trust between you?
16:37I think so, yeah.
16:38There was.
16:39But I will say on that, there was a part in tonight's episode where Amy said at the
16:50breakfast table, oh, Mark said, if he's gone, that it's Patrick.
16:54But I didn't.
16:55I said the opposite.
16:56I said, if I'm still here, it's definitely Patrick.
16:59He's keeping me here.
17:00Yeah.
17:00But Amy heard me wrong or put me wrong.
17:03And then they went with that the next day.
17:04And they said, oh, Mark said, he's not here, it's Patrick.
17:06And I was like, no, I didn't.
17:07However, though, Mark said that every day.
17:09And it wasn't just about me.
17:11If I go tonight, it was that person.
17:14And then he flipped it and he goes, if I'm here tonight, it's Patrick.
17:18We're all confused.
17:20But I have the whole, I didn't hear anything.
17:21It's you, so strange.
17:24How did you find the roundtables?
17:27Like, do you go in with a strategy or do you just see how it sort of unfolds?
17:31So I kind of waited to see, like, I wasn't going to bring up Eamon at the second roundtable.
17:35But Kelly brought it up.
17:36I said, right, let's bring up your pint.
17:37I kind of let it unfold.
17:39But it's easy to say now.
17:40I knew it wasn't Diane.
17:41I knew it wasn't Nina.
17:43But at the same time, me being vocal wasn't going to offer anything.
17:46I had no proof to say it was definitely wasn't her.
17:47So I get it quite.
17:49And I just voted for party, being the only one.
17:51Then I voted for Eamon.
17:52But I didn't jump on any bandwagon.
17:53Sure.
17:54Are they stressful, the roundtables?
17:56I didn't think the roundtable at the moment was stressful.
17:58It's everything leading up to it.
17:59And then when you're in it, that's when I thought I was in the mode.
18:06I was having a blast there.
18:07The game is won and lost at the roundtable.
18:10That's where you really have the opportunity to say something.
18:13Now, in my case, it was probably where I lost.
18:16Starting off with the belief that Nina was a traitor at the start.
18:21So that was...
18:24Oh?
18:25You all right?
18:25You okay?
18:26Yeah.
18:27All right.
18:28Yeah, but it was.
18:29I firmly believed it at that moment.
18:31Well, Patrick, you ended on a high.
18:33You nailed the final mission.
18:35And you had a bang-on theory about Nick at the roundtable.
18:38Let's have a go.
18:39Okay.
18:39So in my mind, there is something that is more probable than possible.
18:43So, Nick.
18:45Nick said earlier if there weren't any other ideas,
18:47he was going to float a possibility about me.
18:50That exact one.
18:51That exact one.
18:51That exact one, yeah.
18:52And I'm really surprised that you're going that direction
18:55versus the probability of the clues that you've mentioned already.
18:59Right.
18:59So, assuming that you did actually rip up and decline the opportunity to be recruited.
19:06Seduced.
19:06And then, obviously, then, Andrew needed to recruit, right?
19:10And it can't be a coincidence that, you know, Pawdy and Andy
19:15did the same gesture when you walked in, you know, the morning after...
19:18Yesterday morning.
19:19100%.
19:19You were on the ball.
19:21That was real Poirot.
19:23That was Poirot behaviour there.
19:25Yeah.
19:25And as Nick said, 100%.
19:27Yeah, yeah, yeah.
19:28He said it.
19:28He didn't have a defence.
19:29No, yeah.
19:30So you called out exactly what happened.
19:32Yeah.
19:33And you could see Nick.
19:34You could see the panic on his face.
19:37His face was drained.
19:38He was like...
19:39And I was like, oh, you got him.
19:40You got him.
19:41But then I think to myself, because you probably knew,
19:44you were like, right, I'm out here now tonight.
19:47People are out for me.
19:48Like, part of me was like, Patrick, state your case.
19:50Yeah, yeah, yeah.
19:51State your innocence.
19:52Like...
19:52In hindsight now.
19:54Yeah.
19:54So yes, I called it out.
19:56But I didn't have the animalistic instinct to go after them.
20:00Yeah.
20:00That was the difference.
20:01Because at that stage, even though I'd call them out,
20:05I then needed to...
20:06The step I missed was convincing everyone else to vote for them and not me.
20:12It was like a beautiful mind.
20:14You're just seeing it all with Minority Report.
20:16Just the crime being placed in front of you.
20:18And I kind of got as well with Vanessa's look there.
20:22It kind of looked like it started sinking into her.
20:24Like, oh, maybe Patrick's onto something here.
20:27Did you see a change in Nick when he was recruited?
20:31No.
20:31Or were you just...
20:32You're kind of logically working it out.
20:33No.
20:34I saw no change in his behaviour.
20:35Not at all.
20:36It was just me putting pieces together.
20:38Yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:39It made sense to me.
20:40If he had declined being recruited the night before,
20:43I would have brought him back right the next night.
20:45Because it would have put a target on him as well, in my mind.
20:48Well, the casino mission did not pan out as you expected.
20:52But then in the Dolls mission, you did exceptionally well.
20:55You were able to recognise some of the most bizarre sounds ever.
20:59But the real challenge was just communicating with Wilkin.
21:05Hello?
21:06Hey, the noise is...
21:07One more time.
21:11Huh?
21:12One more time.
21:13I can't hear you.
21:14What?
21:15Oh, gee, one more time.
21:17Do it again?
21:18Oh, fuck's sake.
21:19That's like looking at me.
21:23I would have been the very best in the world.
21:24What?
21:25Did you feel like Big Egypt's doing that mission?
21:28Yes.
21:29It was the one mission...
21:30It was very silly.
21:31It was the one mission I was hoping that wouldn't be part of it.
21:34But I have to say, like, I was very impressed.
21:37There was one noise that I think Ben had to communicate.
21:41And he mangled it.
21:42It sounded like a pigeon or something.
21:44And you got it straight away.
21:50Hello?
21:50Ooh!
21:51Ooh!
21:51Ooh!
21:52Ooh!
21:52Ooh!
21:53Ooh!
21:53Ooh!
21:54Ooh!
21:54Ooh!
21:55Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:55It's like a ghosty sound.
21:57Hold on, listen.
21:58Hold on, listen, listen, listen, listen.
21:59Just the start of this.
22:01Start of this.
22:06Try it.
22:07Yeah.
22:07Try it.
22:08I think we're shooting in the dark water.
22:09Yeah, well, we are.
22:10Better off having it.
22:11Might guess.
22:11It's correct.
22:17Ooh!
22:17Ooh!
22:18Ooh!
22:18Ooh!
22:19Ooh!
22:19Ooh!
22:20Ooh!
22:20Ooh!
22:21Yeah, we're on the same wavelength, Ben and I.
22:23You know, it just, I...
22:24So you'd hear a man counting cards.
22:25I can hear them in my sleep.
22:29At the very end of the episode, Nick committed his first crime by hugging Christine.
22:35How do you think it's all going to unfold in the morning?
22:38I don't think Christine's going to be too happy about finding...
22:41She's pretty vocal, like, you know what I mean?
22:43She's a very funny girl and that's like, but yeah, it'll be interesting to see.
22:46I'd say Nick, it'll be a brave man to ever step foot in Cork again.
22:50He'll not make it out of that county alive.
22:52He'll not make it out of that county alive.
22:54No.
22:55Yeah, he doesn't go beyond the pale anyway.
22:57No.
22:58No.
22:59Now you're speaking my language now.
23:00Who do you think is going to win?
23:02I would have said Amy.
23:03I think Amy is doing well now in there and as you can see from my reaction, I think Nick
23:08now has more control than what he has.
23:10He's done very well to get this far.
23:12Yeah.
23:13Amy or Nick would be my prediction.
23:14Okay.
23:15I truly believe the girls are in trouble because there's no one with a voice.
23:20Nobody's standing up and actually being strong.
23:23I think Vanessa is the best speaker of the group.
23:27Yeah.
23:27But she doesn't speak up.
23:28So I think the boys are in command, in a commanding position at this time.
23:33But now that I've thrown out Nick and Pawdy's names on the table, hopefully that does plant
23:40some seeds.
23:41Yeah.
23:42Yeah, yeah, yeah.
23:43And get some momentum.
23:44Yeah.
23:45So I've expressed that.
23:46Those doubts are on the table.
23:47I'm happy.
23:48I want to give a big thank you to my wonderful guests, Mike, Shanice, Patrick and Mark.
23:55There will be more Murder, Mourning and Mayhem on the Traders Ireland tomorrow night at
23:599.35.
24:00We'll see you after that.
24:01Slán.
24:03I'll see you.
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