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00:00:00Now, ladies and gentlemen, let's have a welcome from Patrick Kielty.
00:00:30Thank you very much. Hello, good evening. Welcome to The Late Late Show. We're live, we're back up and running after our big, big toy show ticket giveaway last week.
00:00:54It was so busy, folks, it crashed the system. And there was one little boy who took the news particularly badly.
00:01:03Yeah, that's little Cristiano from Portugal, age 40. There he is. Bless him. Yeah.
00:01:12Honestly, he didn't want a present for Christmas. All he wanted was a card. There he is.
00:01:16Don't worry, Cristiano, you can still apply for toy show tickets. We'll be giving you details later on tonight.
00:01:30But we will be giving him the elbow to make way for our winning team this evening.
00:01:35Coming your way, we have comedian Russell Howard is on the show.
00:01:39Star of Oscar-nominated and Colleen Keown, Carrie Crowley will be joining us.
00:01:51Talking, waltzing and swinging, Dancing with the Stars host Jennifer Zamparelli will be here.
00:01:57It's not the big Tom swinging, believe you me. And completing the line-up of our unusual suspects coming off the bench.
00:02:09The legend is here. That is Mr. Gabriel Byrne.
00:02:19But before all that, folks, my first guest this evening has had a week and a year to remember.
00:02:23As last Sunday, he captained Shamrock Rovers to their first double in almost 40 years.
00:02:29Last month, he also qualified for next year's World Cup in the USA.
00:02:33And atop it all, he's just bagged a transfer to join the greatest club in the world, the Dad Club.
00:02:40Would you please welcome Pico Lopez?
00:02:42Pico Lopez!
00:02:43Welcome to the show, Pico.
00:03:03We're all pulling ourselves off the roof after last night.
00:03:07You've obviously had a great week as well, bagging this and the league first double in nearly 40 years.
00:03:14What's the celebrations like?
00:03:16Yeah, it's been great. It's been a mad few weeks, but I want to remember for the rest of my life.
00:03:21We've enjoyed ourselves.
00:03:23I think just getting this one then on Sunday was just the complete, you could proper relax then.
00:03:29There you go. Alan, our floor manager, is a Pats fan, so we're showing this for him.
00:03:33This is the cup being raised here. I'd say this was filled a couple of times.
00:03:38Yeah, absolutely. As I said, it's been a hectic schedule, but then this was sort of the piece at the end.
00:03:44And to get this, it really could lift the roof off everything now.
00:03:48We are all keeping fingers and toes crossed for Ireland on Sunday afternoon in Hungary.
00:03:54You are already there with Cape Verde. Congratulations. Well done.
00:04:00Thanks very much.
00:04:03Now, growing up in Crumlin, playing for Cape Verde, I'm assuming that wasn't on the bingo card, was it?
00:04:11No, no. I suppose, traditionally, you want to grow up playing for a country that you're born in, as in Ireland.
00:04:18Obviously, I was aware of my Cape Verde heritage, but I think as an aspiring footballer, you just want to play international football.
00:04:24And the route that I went in the end was amazing.
00:04:27Tell us how that happened.
00:04:29Yeah, so I remember being in college and I had to set up a LinkedIn account as part of the project.
00:04:34I wasn't really sure how it really worked, but I started having my friends on it.
00:04:39And then you realise I started connecting with a few potential employers on that.
00:04:42And one day, the Cape Verde manager connected with me and messaged me in Portuguese, which I didn't speak at the time.
00:04:49So you got a message that you didn't understand?
00:04:51Yeah, exactly.
00:04:52OK, this is always a good start.
00:04:54Yeah, and I just assumed it was spam or like a welcome message, which was quite familiar with LinkedIn.
00:05:01And I just ignored it.
00:05:03OK.
00:05:04Just ignored it.
00:05:05And then, thankfully, nine months later, he messaged me back into English thinking if I thought about his proposal.
00:05:11And then I'd done what I should have done in the fourth place and copied and pasted the fourth message into Google Translate.
00:05:15And it basically read that, look, Roberto, we're interested in getting some new players into the selection for the team.
00:05:22And we're really interested in having you.
00:05:24What do you think?
00:05:25And I replied straight away, apologised profusely and said, if the opportunity is still there, I'd love to be a part of the group.
00:05:30Amazing. Amazing.
00:05:32Your dad, Carlos, I mean, you know, from Cape Verde, how did he react to the news that you were going to be pulling on the jersey?
00:05:37Yeah, he couldn't believe it.
00:05:39Like, he says, like, when it happens like this so fast, you're just like, right, what do you need from me?
00:05:43Like, do you need my passport, birth cert, any documentation that you need, you're ready to provide.
00:05:48And just, yeah, just so excited getting onto the family back home saying this could be a possibility.
00:05:52He is here tonight and he was actually there whenever you qualified as well.
00:05:57What was that like?
00:05:58Yeah, it was amazing. It was amazing moment for my family and for him.
00:06:01I think he's a bit of a celebrity down there now.
00:06:03People getting interviews with him as well in hotels.
00:06:06But, yeah, just to have my dad there, like, he's the reason why I'm playing for Cape Verde.
00:06:11And to be able to represent him and my family's name on that stage, it's no better feeling.
00:06:16So, you know, it's a few thousand miles away.
00:06:19Obviously, you fit it in quite easily because Cape Verde and Ireland are very, very similar.
00:06:23This is Cape Verde here.
00:06:26This is Dublin, Dublin here.
00:06:29I mean, it's pretty much, it's kind of the same thing, isn't it, really?
00:06:33They're both beaches.
00:06:34Yeah, they're both beaches.
00:06:37So, whenever you qualified, the celebrations for the World Cup, I mean, that's normally enough for anybody.
00:06:43But then your celebrations were cut short because you had a big fixture back home?
00:06:46Yeah, absolutely.
00:06:47So, I knew going away that I was cutting a close to our due date for a baby boy.
00:06:53And I was just worried about that.
00:06:55Football was secondary on my mind for more or less the whole year, but definitely when I was away.
00:07:00And once the match was done, we enjoyed ourselves on the pitch.
00:07:03But when I rang Leah, I realised she was in the kiln, being ready to get induced.
00:07:07Oh, wow.
00:07:08Yeah, so I was just really concerned.
00:07:09Did you make it in time?
00:07:10Yeah, just about.
00:07:11I was enjoying the celebrations, but as soon as I got to the hotel, I was like,
00:07:14I need to grab my bag and get to the airport.
00:07:16Thankfully, I had a flight booked that night.
00:07:18And then when I got to the airport, Leah said, they're not going to induce me until Tuesday.
00:07:21And I was due to arrive Tuesday morning.
00:07:24Amazing.
00:07:25Amazing.
00:07:26And Leah and baby Diego is in.
00:07:31There's Diego there.
00:07:33He's clearly heard my act before.
00:07:35He's got the air defenders on.
00:07:38So, is he going to be playing for Kip Verde or is he going to be playing for Ireland?
00:07:42What do we think?
00:07:43Hopefully, yeah.
00:07:44There's no pressure on him at all with a name like Diego.
00:07:48Yeah.
00:07:49Amazing.
00:07:50Amazing.
00:07:51Amazing.
00:07:52So, I mean, that's the best trophy of all right there.
00:07:55Yeah, 100%.
00:07:56That's our biggest achievement this year, as I say.
00:07:58And being able to create these memories with him now would be my goal for the rest of my life.
00:08:02Well, look, you've got the league.
00:08:05You've got the cup.
00:08:07We decided that we wanted you to do the treble tonight.
00:08:11So, we've actually...
00:08:12There you go.
00:08:13This is the late, late sippy cup.
00:08:15So, if you want to hold that, we can do that.
00:08:16Thank you very much.
00:08:17Woah!
00:08:18Woah!
00:08:19Woah!
00:08:20There you go.
00:08:21Thank you very much.
00:08:22There you go.
00:08:23You can take that off.
00:08:25Brilliant.
00:08:26Brilliant.
00:08:28Thank you so, so much to Pico and Bibi Diego.
00:08:34Competition time now here at home.
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00:08:38Roll it there.
00:08:39Teresa.
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00:10:19Good luck.
00:10:20My next guest is a Golden Globe-winning Irish icon
00:10:25who has lit up the big and small screen for over 40 years
00:10:29and everything from Miller's Crossing to the usual suspects
00:10:32and in treatment to the War of the Worlds,
00:10:34proving that any Late Late Show is always so much better when Gay Byrne is here.
00:10:39We are delighted to welcome home to Dublin, Mr. Gabriel Byrne.
00:10:50Is that the Ronaldo?
00:10:52That was the Ronaldo.
00:10:53That was the Ronaldo.
00:11:07Good to have you here.
00:11:08It's great to have you home.
00:11:09Yes.
00:11:10Well, it is home.
00:11:11I don't think I've ever really left it.
00:11:14I mean, I don't consider myself to be anything else
00:11:17except, you know, from Dublin, from Walkenstown in Dublin.
00:11:27You're getting the two thumbs up there from up the top.
00:11:30From Walko, yeah.
00:11:31Yeah.
00:11:32I mean, it's a great week to have you back.
00:11:33It's been a big week for Ireland, new president.
00:11:35We said goodbye to our old president, Michael D. Higgins,
00:11:38who I know you go way back with...
00:11:42You have a lot of time for Michael.
00:11:44Oh, I think we were absolutely blessed
00:11:47in having such a magnificent president,
00:11:51a representative of our country,
00:11:56a poet, a public intellectual,
00:11:59a campaigner, a global campaigner.
00:12:03He had walked the walk long before he ever got to Aura Sanukta,
00:12:06and he was a brilliant minister of the arts.
00:12:09And...
00:12:10He actually gave you your IFTA, your lifetime achievement.
00:12:13That's right.
00:12:14He did.
00:12:15He presented it to me.
00:12:16And he's a wonderfully accessible man.
00:12:19And we've been very lucky, really,
00:12:21in terms of the presidents that we've had.
00:12:23Mary McAleese, Mary Robinson.
00:12:25And sometimes I wish we'd vote that way
00:12:30when it came to the general elections,
00:12:33but that's just my opinion.
00:12:36I think she, Catherine Connolly,
00:12:40is going to be a wonderful representative of the country.
00:12:44She's empathetic, compassionate, intelligent.
00:12:51She speaks to people and for them.
00:12:54And I think she reached people
00:12:59with her own sense of dignity and reality.
00:13:03And the same thing, I think, has happened in New York,
00:13:05in the States, and the new mayor...
00:13:12Yeah.
00:13:13Mandami.
00:13:14Mandami.
00:13:15He won because he was talking to people
00:13:19about the reality of their lives.
00:13:22He was talking about putting food on the table.
00:13:24He was talking about
00:13:28transportation, of childcare,
00:13:32things that really mattered to people.
00:13:34And I think he's given a great deal of hope
00:13:38to other people around the country
00:13:41who can begin to see that maybe
00:13:43it's time for the old guard
00:13:45and the Democratic Party to move on.
00:13:48Because the reality is,
00:13:50I think they have lost,
00:13:51and did quite a long time ago,
00:13:53lose touch with the American working class,
00:13:55who are now beginning to become really disillusioned
00:13:58and leading into a kind of anger.
00:14:00And he will have not just
00:14:03an effect on New York,
00:14:07which is the financial capital of the world,
00:14:09but on every state in America,
00:14:11but worldwide as well.
00:14:12People will look at him and say,
00:14:14what is this guy fighting for?
00:14:16He's fighting for people,
00:14:18against, in my opinion,
00:14:20the great enemies of our modern age,
00:14:23the bankers, the billionaires,
00:14:26the politicians who are in their pockets,
00:14:29and these, I was going to say go boys,
00:14:32but these guys from Silicon Valley.
00:14:35And that is the monolith that we're fighting,
00:14:37because they are the ones together
00:14:40who are responsible for the huge discrepancy,
00:14:45the discrepancy between the haves and the have-nots.
00:14:49And working people,
00:14:51I know people where I live,
00:14:52who are working three jobs,
00:14:54spending their money on childcare,
00:14:56going to and from work.
00:14:58That is the reality of most people's
00:15:00working class lives there.
00:15:02And I live in a place where
00:15:03there are quite a few Trumpers, you know.
00:15:05And they tend to be painted with the same brush,
00:15:08that there are all these crazy people.
00:15:11I think when Trump rode into town,
00:15:18people were angry,
00:15:20they felt disenfranchised,
00:15:22and they were ready to be led.
00:15:24And they voted for this guy
00:15:27who has not fulfilled the promises.
00:15:32You know, I'm listening to you here now
00:15:33and I can see, you know,
00:15:35how passionate you are
00:15:36and I can see the fire in your belly.
00:15:37And I mean, that's something that you've always had.
00:15:40I mean, this is a picture that we found of yourself,
00:15:43Mick Lally and Michael D.
00:15:45This is you guys back in Galway
00:15:48in 1989 campaign.
00:15:50And that's you.
00:15:51That's very much the Labour Party
00:15:55meets Roxy Music look there
00:15:56that you're busting, Gabriel.
00:15:58I mean, were you ever tempted yourself
00:16:00to go down the political route?
00:16:02You know, I...
00:16:05I could never belong to a party.
00:16:08I really, truly couldn't sit there
00:16:10and listen to somebody, you know,
00:16:13generalise about the reality of life.
00:16:16I think that the older I get,
00:16:19the more I value independence.
00:16:22the reason why I'm doing this book festival in Dingle
00:16:27is because I really do believe in independent book shops,
00:16:33independent coffee shops, independent clothes shops,
00:16:37anywhere there's independence.
00:16:39And it's not a monolithic chain.
00:16:43Like, I don't want to go to Lapland
00:16:45and get the same coffee that I do in, you know, Offaly.
00:16:48I want to go to a place where there's a guy working
00:16:52behind the counter that I can look at and say,
00:16:54this is his business.
00:16:55And...
00:16:56And you'll get that in Dingle.
00:16:57You'll get that in Dingle.
00:16:58You'll get that in Dingle.
00:16:59Yeah.
00:17:00So anywhere we can...
00:17:01To me, it's about saying to these monolith companies,
00:17:05like, we won't mention their names,
00:17:07but they've taken so much of what belongs to us.
00:17:11They've taken over our lives in the most subtle way
00:17:16and now it's almost impossible to fight back against them.
00:17:21If you want to stage a protest,
00:17:23let's say, for example, against Fox Television,
00:17:26you go to that building.
00:17:28It's 100 stories high.
00:17:30You won't even get past the desk.
00:17:32And I think that one of the things that,
00:17:36again, going back to Mondani,
00:17:37is that in movies you always find the plot of the movie
00:17:41is some man, Spider-Man or, you know,
00:17:45one of those creatures comes in,
00:17:47half man, half fly or whatever.
00:17:49He comes in and he rescues everybody.
00:17:52And they all say, oh, here he is.
00:17:54Here's Batman, et cetera.
00:17:55But what that inculcates in people
00:17:59is the idea that one man will save everybody.
00:18:02Whereas the reality is that the only people
00:18:05who can change anything is us.
00:18:07I mean, one of the things that...
00:18:09One of the reasons why we are so proud of you is because
00:18:20you're one of the people that changed Irish film industry,
00:18:24you know, forever.
00:18:25Before, you know, you were starting out,
00:18:28there was a group of actors.
00:18:29There was yourself, there was Liam,
00:18:30there was Liam Neeson, Pierce Brosnan,
00:18:32who broke through and, you know,
00:18:34you were one of our first international stars.
00:18:36What was it like at that time trying to break out
00:18:39of the stereotypical roles that Irish actors were getting
00:18:43and to get to where you got to?
00:18:45Well, I think, you know,
00:18:47films and television reflected the general feeling.
00:18:51I'm talking about Britain now,
00:18:53about how people in Britain felt about Irish people.
00:18:57This was the 80s and what they call the troubles
00:19:00was going on in the north of Ireland.
00:19:02And you had to be very careful how you spoke,
00:19:04when you spoke, where you spoke.
00:19:07I mean, you wouldn't know about that.
00:19:10And so that was reflected in fiction.
00:19:12So from an Irish actor's point of view
00:19:14or indeed an audience, Irish audience point of view,
00:19:17what you saw was scripts written by non-Irish people,
00:19:23acted by usually British actors.
00:19:26And in the background, you'd have Irish actors.
00:19:29And the scripts reflected the status quo's perspective on Ireland.
00:19:38Drunks, terrorists, priests, stupid.
00:19:42I remember there was one script that I read.
00:19:44I couldn't believe I was actually reading it,
00:19:45but it was about an SAS guy, an SAS guy, yeah,
00:19:49infiltrating a terrorist organization in the north of Ireland
00:19:53who walks into a crowded pub in Belfast and says,
00:19:57you know, pretending he was undercover,
00:20:00but he was pretending to be one of them.
00:20:02He says, I say, barkeep,
00:20:04could I have a pint of your best black bitter?
00:20:07Whoever went into a pub and said that,
00:20:10you'd be immediately taken outside and talked to.
00:20:14You'd say it once.
00:20:16You'd say it, that would be the end of it.
00:20:18But, you know, there was...
00:20:20That was the perception of Irish people.
00:20:24And it wasn't that long after, no dogs, no blacks, no Irish.
00:20:29And there's still a little bit of that left.
00:20:31There is still a bit of that.
00:20:32But, you know, you were a trailblazer.
00:20:34You broke down those barriers.
00:20:35And when you see the new generation of Irish actors,
00:20:38Jesse Buckley and Mary Hogan and people like that coming through,
00:20:41I mean, how does it make you feel that now Irish actors
00:20:44are going around the world and playing, you know, international roles?
00:20:48Oh, it's absolutely wonderful.
00:20:50It's so heartwarming to see these great young actors come through
00:20:55with none of the baggage in the history that, you know, that we had.
00:20:58Because we had to fly to London to do auditions on the same day.
00:21:02We'd have, you know, basically collect your dole in the morning,
00:21:05see if you had enough, get to London, get back on the same day
00:21:08and audition for whatever was going over there.
00:21:11But I left England because I didn't fit in there.
00:21:15I was always an outsider.
00:21:16And I thought, well, maybe in America I'll be judged in a different way.
00:21:20And I was judged in a different way.
00:21:22They didn't have the same attitude at all.
00:21:25I'm not saying that everybody in the British theatre
00:21:28and film establishment was like that.
00:21:30But it was suddenly like they discovered
00:21:33that Irish people could speak English.
00:21:35You know, and they said, well, what about that guy over there,
00:21:40Colin Farrell, what about him?
00:21:42Yes, let's get him on board.
00:21:43It's changed so much for these young actors.
00:21:46And I'm really thrilled that they're doing so well globally
00:21:51as actors rather than Irish actors.
00:21:54Because they're not known as, or if somebody says,
00:21:57oh, Paul Maskell, where's he from?
00:21:59Is he Scottish or, you know?
00:22:01He's an actor first.
00:22:02He's an actor first.
00:22:03He's an actor first.
00:22:04Yeah.
00:22:05I gave myself a wee treat there during the week
00:22:07and I was re-watching End of the West.
00:22:09Oh.
00:22:10And Ireland has changed so, so much.
00:22:14Looking at that movie, Ireland has changed so much since then,
00:22:16but the themes in it, you know, the line at the end,
00:22:19you know, there's a bit of a traveller in everybody,
00:22:22but very few of us know where we're going.
00:22:25You know, it still resonates.
00:22:27It's a powerful film for children because it deals with the most complex feelings and emotions,
00:22:36and it addresses them to children in a way that they can connect with.
00:22:42It doesn't talk or condescend or avoid.
00:22:45It deals with death.
00:22:47Yeah.
00:22:48The death of the mother.
00:22:49The mother.
00:22:50It deals with the disenfranchised community.
00:22:55It deals with fatherhood, motherhood, a man trying to bring up these two children by himself.
00:23:04And some of the lines I've never forgotten, that last line that you quote where, oh, they're gone,
00:23:11where Rory says, are we travellers, Daddy?
00:23:16And he says, yes, son, we're all travellers, except very few of us know where we're going.
00:23:23And it was a beautiful film, I thought.
00:23:26You know, what's lovely, just listening to you, that's fresh in your memory,
00:23:30but I didn't realise that you don't watch any of your movies back.
00:23:33You know, when you do iconic stuff like that, you know,
00:23:36when you do something like the usual suspects celebrating 30 years of its release.
00:23:41I suppose with something like that, you don't have to,
00:23:43because people, do people come up to you and quote you lines from it or...?
00:23:48Yeah, I once met a man in New York who said,
00:23:53would you mind if my friend came over to say hello?
00:23:56And I said, sure, he came over.
00:23:58And he started at the very first line of the usual suspects.
00:24:01And he was like 25 lines into it.
00:24:03And I said, now stop, how do you know this?
00:24:06And he said, it was the last, his friend said,
00:24:10it was the last movie he saw before he went blind.
00:24:13Wow.
00:24:14Wow.
00:24:15And I'll tell you an interesting thing about the Into the West thing as well.
00:24:18A priest came up to me one day and he said, you know,
00:24:22he said, I want to thank you because my mother had Alzheimer's
00:24:25and I used to bring her to the movies just to, you know, give her a day out.
00:24:31And he said, the last thing she said in her life that made sense,
00:24:36she was in the horrors of Alzheimer's, but she came out of it,
00:24:39she was watching a movie and she pointed at the screen,
00:24:41she said, Gabriel.
00:24:43And he said that was the last moment he ever really connected with her.
00:24:49But in terms of watching oneself,
00:24:51now I don't know if you've ever watched a video of yourself.
00:24:55Sadly, I have.
00:24:57Yeah.
00:24:58Gabriel, yeah.
00:24:59Yeah.
00:25:00I mean, my back catalogue's not just as impressive as yours, to be fair.
00:25:04But would you show somebody a photograph of themselves?
00:25:07And I think this is almost universal.
00:25:09People say, oh my God, I don't look like that, do I?
00:25:13Or they'll hear a recording of this.
00:25:15That's a bad one of me, yeah.
00:25:16Oh my God, do I sound like that?
00:25:18Yeah.
00:25:19Jeez, are my ears that big?
00:25:21You know, we're incredibly critical about that.
00:25:23Okay, I get the picture, Gabriel.
00:25:25Yeah, yeah.
00:25:28I don't, no.
00:25:29But I think it's very, I don't do it at all because, first of all,
00:25:32there's nothing you can do about it to change it.
00:25:34Yeah.
00:25:35And it's also a horrible experience.
00:25:37I remember I was in Germany once in a hotel room in Munich
00:25:40and I was jet lagged and I woke up and there was a load of chocolates
00:25:44leading to the fridge and I thought, oh no, I'm after eating the mini bar.
00:25:48And then I turned on the television and I was on the TV speaking in German.
00:25:52Where is the, where is the, it was just too much in the dark room.
00:25:58So no, I don't.
00:25:59Okay.
00:26:00You know, at the heart of movie making is story, isn't it?
00:26:03Yes.
00:26:04And, you know, when you're going down to Dingle to, you know,
00:26:06that literary festival, what is it do you think that Irish writers
00:26:11and Irish stories seems to be able to travel around the world with ease?
00:26:14I think we've, you know, because of, um, colonialism, um, our culture was suppressed,
00:26:23buried, denied, uh, and, um, we went underground and we went into an oral tradition
00:26:31where poems were passed from one person to another or stories were told around the fireside.
00:26:37That was a form of theatre.
00:26:38And what was in play there was the imagination.
00:26:42And we always had access to that great imagination because we really had access to very little,
00:26:49very little else.
00:26:50So I think we've always retained this power of imagination and the power to tell a story.
00:26:58And when Irish people are on their game and you get a good storyteller, there's nobody quite like them.
00:27:04Because almost everything that I find, well, of course, there's a quote of boredom too,
00:27:09but people will tell you a story and they won't just say, uh, well, I met your man in the,
00:27:15you know, in the main street yesterday.
00:27:17Do you know who I met yesterday?
00:27:20And you're immediately in this place saying, who?
00:27:22Well, I was coming down, uh, Dominic Street.
00:27:25You know where the pub there is on the corner?
00:27:27Where your man fell off his bicycle?
00:27:30Well, not that place, the other place.
00:27:33So you're into a story about something that's completely mundane.
00:27:37And we love stories and we love to be told them and we love to listen to them.
00:27:42And I think our, our connection with the world of imagination allows us to be.
00:27:48So when we got the pen in our hand in the 19th century and we had imbibed Gaelic culture up to then,
00:27:54and we, we, we, we kind of married it with, um, uh, the English language.
00:28:00And as Oscar Wilde said, you gave us your language, but we returned it with beauty.
00:28:05We made our own, uh, language and our own way of, uh, communication.
00:28:11Uh, we're still brilliant to our story.
00:28:14Again, Oscar Wilde said, the Irish are the greatest storytellers since the Greeks.
00:28:18And I really believe that I think we have that rare, rare gift.
00:28:23And look at the amount of writers that we have, man.
00:28:26I mean, it's just astonishing.
00:28:28Musicians, writers, uh, actors, actors, painters.
00:28:34We have a fantastic cultural imprint, imprint around the world.
00:28:38And that is really soft power.
00:28:40Power that goes around the world that people say, oh, you're Irish.
00:28:43Oh, James Joyce or, or whatever.
00:28:46Uh, we go, uh, our culture goes before us in a way.
00:28:50But there was a time when those stereotypes that I'm talking about were in America and elsewhere.
00:28:57We have demolished those stereotypes.
00:29:00So if somebody hints to me that, you know, uh, a guy said to me in London,
00:29:04well, you like this guy, bro? Irish, my mugs in the bar.
00:29:07I said, stop right there.
00:29:08Yeah. No, no.
00:29:09Behave yourself.
00:29:10No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:29:11We are an incredibly, um, um, uh, we're a nation that people look to and respect and admire.
00:29:23And we have so much to offer.
00:29:26Um, and I just want to see the Irish, uh, the Irish character be protected from global, uh,
00:29:40global, uh, infiltration.
00:29:43I want us to retain our own character, speak our own language.
00:29:47Because one of the awful things about colonialism, it makes you feel ashamed of your own culture.
00:29:52Oh, Irish is something you shouldn't speak.
00:29:54Oh, you shouldn't be doing a football, Harley, you know.
00:29:57It's all, no, I think we're coming into a place now where we are beginning to at last embrace the richness and the power of our own culture.
00:30:07And we don't have to look anywhere else to get it.
00:30:10And Gabriel, listening to you tonight.
00:30:12I have to say.
00:30:16Listening to you tonight.
00:30:18You are a huge part of that.
00:30:20Um, we thank you for it and we're very proud of you and we're delighted to have you here, uh, tonight.
00:30:25Uh, you're going to stay with us?
00:30:26Yes.
00:30:27Yeah.
00:30:28Yeah.
00:30:29Uh, Gabriel Byrne.
00:30:30Gabriel Byrne.
00:30:32Thank you so, so much.
00:30:37Uh, the Dingle Literary Festival takes place from the 21st to the 23rd in November for tickets and the full programme.
00:30:43Visit dinglelit.ie.
00:30:46Coming up, we'll be chatting Oscars and Gail Gale with a star off and Colleen Cue and Carrie Crowley.
00:30:52Um, we'll be talking five brilliant things with the brilliant Russell Howard back after these.
00:30:56Uh, Gabriel still with us.
00:31:12We're having a wee chat there during the break.
00:31:25My next guest is a Waterford actress who has warmed our hearts hosting
00:31:30Eurovision, broken our hearts in the Oscar nominated and Colleen Keown and is
00:31:34back on our screens with her first hosting gig in over 25 years. Would you
00:31:38please welcome back to The Late Late Show, the brilliant Carrie Crowley!
00:31:55Lovely to have you here, brilliant to have you back on The Late Late, I believe you've completed the set, I believe you've been on the show with every host.
00:32:13I believe so. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry that it's all gone downhill.
00:32:19So, it's something to be on the show for so long as a guest. We have a little clip
00:32:29of you from the show back then. Can you tell us what you think that first appearance might have been?
00:32:37I think it was with a band from Waterford. It was with a band. And we were called Miss
00:32:42Brown to you. Yes. And it was three women. Yes. And Gay was hosting. And you guys were magnificent.
00:32:48And we were very naive. I think everything up until that last bit is true. You're absolutely brilliant.
00:32:55Check this out. This is so good. Just rock me, rock me, till I go to sleep in your heart,
00:33:04to dream of your chance, while lost in somebody, rock me to sleep.
00:33:14So good.
00:33:22That was the late 80s. OK, that was the late 80s. Yeah.
00:33:27It's, I mean... So it's a while ago. It's been a while ago. And what a journey,
00:33:31the late, late to the Oscars and back here. Again, Gabriel, I know you're a fan of this woman's work.
00:33:37And she was magnificent. And Colleen Keown. Colleen Keown, yeah.
00:33:42It... For a lot of people, I remember seeing this in the Washington DC Film Festival.
00:33:49Ah. And there was a huge auditorium full of people. And at the end of it,
00:33:54there wasn't a dry eye in the house and everybody was on their feet. I mean, what
00:33:57was it about that film that just touched so many people around the world?
00:34:04It's hard to say exactly what it was. But I think there was a simplicity in the telling of the story.
00:34:12There was no fuss. There was no, oh, we're going to cut. People only have a three-second attention span.
00:34:16We're going to cut from this to this to this. Nothing cut. You stayed in the room with whoever was in the room
00:34:24at the time or outside with whoever was outside at the time. It was very beautiful. But also,
00:34:30I thought in the beginning that Irish people loved it because it reminded them of their relationship
00:34:36with Ireland and their relationship with relatives in the country. And I thought it was a very specific
00:34:41Irish thing. But then you realised it went to Japan. It went all around the world and everywhere it went,
00:34:48people identified with it in some way. So there was a very specific story in it
00:34:56that seemed to work regardless of your heritage or where you were living or your language. And I think
00:35:04we all felt, God, who would watch a film in the Irish language? They lapped it up. And the really
00:35:11interesting thing to me was the amount of people that I met who said, Oh my God, I thought I'd forgotten all
00:35:18my Irish. I understood your film. That people came and they understood it. It had subtitles,
00:35:25but they found themselves actually getting it on the ear and knowing exactly what was happening.
00:35:31It seems to me that that movie, you know, there is a huge revival now in the language,
00:35:37if you listen to President Connolly and her speech in her inauguration. And, you know, your movie,
00:35:41you know, seems to have been at the start of that revival. How does that feel?
00:35:46It feels amazing if it was connected in some way with the revival, but maybe the revival was
00:35:52just meant to happen anyway. Maybe it was just lying dormant, hoping that somebody would just crack
00:35:59that little shell on it and say, come on, come out. Everybody. And I say this to people all the time.
00:36:04And I think my friends are sick of me saying it. We all have Irish. So just let it out.
00:36:11Every now and again, it doesn't have to be correct. It doesn't have to be perfect.
00:36:15This is what Imelda May, yeah, we had Imelda May on the show a couple of weeks ago,
00:36:19and she was saying exactly the same thing. It doesn't have to be perfect, but just give it a go.
00:36:22Yeah, give it a go and have a conversation with somebody. And, you know, there are all these pop-up
00:36:27Gaeltacht and pop-up kind of Irish nights that you can go to anywhere around Ireland. And everybody
00:36:33in that space on that particular night will want to try their Irish. I've been in the Gaeltacht in
00:36:39Donegal, and it's Idris Gael, so it's for adults. And I've been at a table with a Japanese person,
00:36:46a French person, an Irish person, somebody from Canada, and a German guy who was our host that
00:36:51particular night. And the language of the table was Pigeon Irish. That was the language used.
00:36:57Everybody got through and everybody communicated. And even though everybody probably had English,
00:37:03if they had chosen to use it. No, Pigeon Irish. They were there to learn Irish.
00:37:08What was it like? How exciting was it to take an Irish language movie and go all the way to the Oscars and
00:37:14walk up that red carpet? I mean, that must have just been a blast. It was kind of crazy.
00:37:18Yeah. Like, it was a bit crazy. Yeah. How crazy?
00:37:21That we, just really crazy that we were going there, that we were on a flight from Dublin airport,
00:37:27that like, Aer Lingus threw out red carpets and stuff. It was, everybody got on the journey.
00:37:32So there was a lot of fun attached. But a lot of it was like, come on, we're going to the Oscars
00:37:38with an Irish language film. So in fact, I think everybody was really heartened by that idea
00:37:44that it was a small little film made for very little money during COVID. And it was made in the
00:37:51Irish language. Who couldn't love that idea that it was suddenly going to LA?
00:37:56I mean, you've done loads of these red carpets, Gabriel. I know you're,
00:38:00you're a huge fan of the award and red carpet experience.
00:38:03I know what you mean, Kerry. It is, it's this surreal feeling that you're,
00:38:11you're between two worlds in a way. This is happening. And yet you're inside your head
00:38:18thinking, this is another reality in here. But I, I've always felt honestly,
00:38:26a little self-conscious in those things. I've never quite felt comfortable in it. And I have to say,
00:38:37maybe I'm, I'm wrong about this, but I always feel faintly embarrassed when they say to girls,
00:38:44can you twirl around and give us a look at your dress? Yeah.
00:38:48Like they'll never say to a man, twirl around and let's see your tuxedo.
00:38:52They'll never-
00:38:52Twirl around there, Gabriel, and let's give us a look.
00:38:55Yeah. But I think the excitement, it, it's almost like a chemical thing.
00:39:00You step out of a car and there's just banks and banks of people and photographers. And there's a
00:39:06part of you that just wants to run away. I would totally agree. And I'm not into that whole kind of
00:39:13big smile, big smile on the red carpet. I hated that side of it. Yeah.
00:39:17And I ended up having nightmares when I came home. I would wake in the morning and go,
00:39:22where do I have to be today? And what do I have to wear?
00:39:24Yeah. What am I meant to be saying today about our business or about our film?
00:39:31And so it was really confusing. And in some ways, the best night we had was the night before a day
00:39:38off, our only day off where we weren't working. Because you are working when you're at all these
00:39:43things. So you could have a bit of crack. You're shaking hands. We had the best of crack. And then
00:39:47the next day, myself and Ross went for a swim. We went out like to Venice Beach and just had a really
00:39:52ordinary day. And that was so lovely. Because the rest of the time, you are
00:39:58you're at everybody's beck and call and you have to do it nicely. If you can.
00:40:04You're back on our screens, hosting for the first time in a very long time. The show's called
00:40:11Buildings Bio on TG Cahar. Tell us a bit about that. Okay, Buildings Bio. I never thought I would
00:40:17present anything on television again. And then Evan Chamberlain, who is a producer and director
00:40:23and a great individual. He got in touch with me and he came. We spent a lot of time in Leitrim. So he
00:40:29came up to Leitrim when we sat and talked about it. And he said, this is about communities and buildings
00:40:35in various communities around the country that have fallen asunder. And one of them in McCroom was a
00:40:42theatre that had been razed to the ground. So you're looking at all the scar tissue of a building
00:40:48that had been a community building. And the idea was that over a period of time, which turned out
00:40:53to be three years, we would go and watch these buildings from their kind of desecrated state
00:41:01to the full repair and see if it worked, if they were bio, if they were alive again.
00:41:08We have a little clip. We got a little clip, here it is.
00:41:12So three years later, you are in the middle of the year and you are in the middle of the year,
00:41:17and you have been a school, a school and a school, and you have a big deal.
00:41:20And you have to remember that you are in the middle of the year and the new year and the new year.
00:41:25And you are now in the middle of the year, for the full of the years, in a building's bio.
00:41:38we're also we're also where we've just seen you in the Walsh sisters daddy played by Aidan Quinn
00:41:51who Gabriel knows well how much fun was that that was a lot of fun and it was actually we really
00:41:59started to feel like family and Aidan's adult like anyone who knows him would just say he's
00:42:04a total honey and then we had our five daughters and each like they were so different but in the
00:42:11storyline they each have their own issues to deal with and we as their parents have to try and guide
00:42:17them through everything that happens but mommy's a total article like but the funny thing was the
00:42:24amount of guys who came to me and said oh you are my mother and you think okay she exists she is that
00:42:34it's the Irish version of Star Wars you are my mother yeah but it happened quite a lot anyway it was it was
00:42:40great to make I loved it and the girls I don't have children but Mother's Day rolled around while we
00:42:47were filming and they gave me a present from Mother's Day which was the sweetest present and it's a
00:42:52current clock so you can see the times that the tide is going to be in in the area that you swim
00:42:59and you set it with the moon but my girls our girls gave me that from Mother's Day was that just really
00:43:05nice and you can see Carrie myself and Gabriel at the 40 foot tomorrow Carrie thank you so so much
00:43:14thank you for coming back and seeing us Buildings PO starts on TG Cahar Wednesday November the 19th at
00:43:208 30. One more time Carrie and Gabriel thank you so so much
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00:45:58really still to come we'll be talking brilliant things with uh comedian russell hard and jennifer
00:46:13samparelli will be telling us why ireland swings isn't just a show band song back after these
00:46:25now i know just the way
00:46:28welcome back to the lilyard show my next guests have been taking modern irish folk around the globe
00:46:48since 2008 with their music featured on the soundtracks of disney's only murders in the building
00:46:54and the acclaimed michael b jordan movie sinners they're about to hit the rocky road on a nationwide
00:47:00tour but we're delighted they pulled the cart over for a pit stop for us tonight here
00:47:05with rocky road to dublin it's the high kings
00:47:08in the merry month to june from me home i started left the girls in two
00:47:24dearly broken and i saluted father then
00:47:26guess me dad and mother drank a pint of beer be grief and tears just fun enough to read the corn
00:47:32leave where i was born cut to step back hard to vanish
00:47:35ghosting comes a brand new pair of bros rattling all the bugs frightening all the dogs
00:47:39on the rocky road to dublin and one two three four five
00:47:42pat the hair and turn her down the rocky road all the way to dublin and waffling on me
00:47:47rock
00:47:49huddling are the thing they're resting loose so where he started fighting
00:47:52he left his spirits right and here he took a trap of the pure
00:47:55keep me hard from sinking that's the paddy's pure whenever he's on for dreams
00:47:59i see the lassie swag
00:48:00duffing all the way
00:48:02had me carry yourself and set your heart to bundle and rest if i was high
00:48:05wages are required and i was nearly tired of the rocky road to dublin and one two three four five
00:48:11pat the hair and turn her down the rocky road all the way to dublin and waffling on me
00:48:16rock
00:48:17in dublin next to right i thought it's such a pity to be so soon deprived
00:48:23a few were trapped by city but then it took a stroll all the wonder quality bundle it was
00:48:28stole all in the new locality something crossed me mind when i left behind the bundle
00:48:32can i find upon me stick a hundred fire for the rope
00:48:36certainly cannot grow
00:48:37it wasn't much you know
00:48:38down the rocky road to dublin and one two three four five
00:48:41pat the hair and turn her down the rocky road
00:48:44all the way to dublin and waffling on me
00:48:46pat the hair and turn her down the rocky road all the way to dublin and waffling on me
00:49:15ride
00:49:17in the rain's a paper pool
00:49:18a wet he safely landed calling south of whom
00:49:21i could not understand it but began to pile
00:49:23temper i was loose and poor old air inside
00:49:26there he can abuse my rabbit sauce and she'll lay the island flight
00:49:30down by pice when i ain't so
00:49:32i was a humble and waffling on me
00:49:34joy middy afraid we quickly cleared away
00:49:36for the rocky road to dublin and one two three four five
00:49:39pat the hair and turn her down the rocky road
00:49:42On the way to Dublin and Wack-Fallon-Li-Rah
00:49:46They hear a turner down the rocky road
00:49:48On the way to Dublin and Wack-Fallon-Li-Rah
00:49:52Hey!
00:50:01Oh, wow!
00:50:02Give it up a little more time, the High Kings!
00:50:09Your next dance is coming up shortly.
00:50:11You can see the lads nationwide on the Rocky Road Tour.
00:50:152026 is starting.
00:50:17There they are!
00:50:18In the Hub Kilkenny on the 29th of December later this year.
00:50:23Further information on thehighkings.com.
00:50:27OK.
00:50:28My next guest is an award-winning comedian
00:50:30whose razor-sharp stand-up has bagged him
00:50:32over nine million followers worldwide
00:50:34and over one billion views online.
00:50:37Next year he's going to be returning to Ireland
00:50:39with his Don't Tell the Algorithm tour.
00:50:41But I'm delighted to say he's making his
00:50:43first Late Late Show appearance tonight.
00:50:45Would you please welcome the brilliant Russell Howard!
00:50:47CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:50:51MUSIC
00:51:01Wow!
00:51:02Well, the show, sir!
00:51:04That was incredible!
00:51:05That music!
00:51:06Well done!
00:51:07Yes!
00:51:08God, I loved it!
00:51:09But everyone was backstage!
00:51:11And I mean, it was one of the first times ever
00:51:13that the entire audience kept the time with the music.
00:51:15I mean, it was a brilliant, brilliant moment.
00:51:17I was watching because you can see the audience backstage
00:51:19and there was one of you that wasn't clapping.
00:51:21And I was like, what's wrong with him?
00:51:23And he's like, I won't, I won't.
00:51:25I love this city, good lord!
00:51:27Yeah, I mean...
00:51:28Really the best!
00:51:29You've got, like, a soft spot for Ireland.
00:51:30I love it!
00:51:31You love Dublin.
00:51:32It's just, it's everything about this place.
00:51:34It's the people, the pubs, the music, the crack, the atmosphere,
00:51:37the energy, the buildings, every...
00:51:39The only thing that ruins it are Americans.
00:51:41That is the only thing!
00:51:42Isn't it?
00:51:43Like, just...
00:51:44I'm, I'm Irish!
00:51:46I'm so...
00:51:47Look at me, I'm acting the maggot.
00:51:49Like...
00:51:50It's my husband Chad, I'm gonna write the whole off him.
00:51:52He's like, you're not Irish.
00:51:55You're wearing a bomb bag and you're holding a leprechaun
00:51:58that was sold to you by a man who is Irish.
00:52:00Like, just, just turn the volume down.
00:52:03They don't know that we're hated, at least the Brits know.
00:52:07Do you know what I mean?
00:52:09I mean, but, you know, when you come over here,
00:52:11it's, it's that thing where there's, there's kind of a different,
00:52:14different energy, a different atmosphere, you were saying, you know...
00:52:17I think as a comedian, it's that, you're, you have to raise the bar
00:52:20because you are funny.
00:52:21Like, you are, and you know this as well.
00:52:24Like, the heckles that you get, I remember, and there's poetry as well.
00:52:28I was doing, I was at the Vicar Street and this lady said,
00:52:31I was talking about Amsterdam, and she said that she'd been thrown
00:52:34out of a sex club in Amsterdam, which is a great start to any anecdote.
00:52:38And I said, why? And she went, sure, there was a lady on stage,
00:52:42she was having a go on herself, and I felt inspired.
00:52:45And for me, that is the most poetic way of saying, I had a wank.
00:52:51But you've ever...
00:52:52But it just feels so...
00:52:54There's a different way of saying it.
00:52:55Yeah.
00:52:56I felt inspired.
00:52:57I know your family, I know the family aren't Irish, but I mean,
00:52:59there's 40 cousins, and you sort of, you've said in the past
00:53:01that your family's a bit like the Pogues.
00:53:03There's a...
00:53:04Well, it feels like being in a Pogues song.
00:53:05It's sort of that energy of like, you know, we're talking sort of like,
00:53:08late 80s, you know, just I've got a lazy eye, there's uncles coming up to...
00:53:13I remember one of my uncles come up to me, and he was like,
00:53:15I had a pint of cider, and he's like, I could drink three of these,
00:53:18kill you, and not know I'd done it.
00:53:20It was sort of that.
00:53:21And then that same uncle briefly took up teaching karate in his garage,
00:53:26even though he had no training in karate.
00:53:29Do you know what I mean?
00:53:30He was out before or after the three pints.
00:53:31Totally.
00:53:32But it's that there was always a chaos to it,
00:53:35and there was just the interesting and interested people lurking around.
00:53:40Do you know what I mean?
00:53:41That's what it felt like.
00:53:42And there's that kind of...
00:53:43You know, you were telling me beforehand that, you know,
00:53:45there's a sort of a mommy's boy thing between you and your mom as well.
00:53:48You're still quite close with her.
00:53:49You go traveling with her and...
00:53:50Well, I did a travel show with my mom.
00:53:52So we have very unique experiences.
00:53:55So we were in Portland, and we got high together.
00:53:59It's legal to smoke weed.
00:54:01Do you ever smoke weed with your mom?
00:54:03I mean, to be honest with you, that didn't happen.
00:54:07And I recommend it.
00:54:09OK, fine.
00:54:10Yeah.
00:54:11Like, I love my mom, and she's interesting,
00:54:12but seeing my mom stoned was a different level.
00:54:15Of like, because she was able to access parts of her...
00:54:18We...
00:54:19She said something so funny.
00:54:20We were watching Star Wars.
00:54:21She went full in, right?
00:54:23She's stoned, she's watching Star Wars.
00:54:25And he gets the lightsaber out, and she was like,
00:54:27it's ridiculous.
00:54:28Every time he gets that out, you don't see any moths.
00:54:31Like that.
00:54:32Do you know what I mean?
00:54:33And it was just that lovely...
00:54:34I just like...
00:54:35I like her brain.
00:54:36And I thought she'd be an interesting person to travel the world with.
00:54:39And now we have these odd little stories that we can chat about.
00:54:43Yeah, and sometimes people don't know your mother and son.
00:54:47Yeah.
00:54:48She's quite young-looking, my mom, and I'm quite craggy.
00:54:52So they just assume that we're...
00:54:54She told a waiter that I was a male prostitute, that she got cheap.
00:54:59Because one of my eyes was lazy.
00:55:01Like that.
00:55:02But yeah, they always thought we were a couple, and she played up to it.
00:55:05So I'd meet her at breakfast, and she was like,
00:55:07morning, husband!
00:55:08Oh, God, he done me last...
00:55:10And you're like, shut up, mum.
00:55:12So, yeah, I guess that's why I'm a comic, really.
00:55:14I have no kind of...
00:55:15Yeah, there's no kind of boundaries in our family.
00:55:17Yeah.
00:55:18I mean, you know, the Good News show, that was something that was, you know,
00:55:22had a big cult following here.
00:55:24And you still have an eye for a headline, don't you?
00:55:27That's something that you...
00:55:28The muscle memory's always there for that type of thing.
00:55:31Yeah, there certainly is, yeah.
00:55:32There was a brilliant story this week, I don't know if you saw it, about...
00:55:37There was an expert talking about that you should...
00:55:39If a seagull tries to take something from you,
00:55:42you should try and reason with the seagull.
00:55:45Which I thought was such an...
00:55:46Because I've seen that live.
00:55:47I saw an ink...
00:55:48There you go.
00:55:49Shout at seagulls to stop them stealing your food, research suggests.
00:55:52Okay.
00:55:53And they say science isn't busy.
00:55:55There we go.
00:55:56Actual headline in the examiner.
00:55:57Yeah.
00:55:58But I saw that.
00:55:59I was in Portugal, which is very apt this week.
00:56:01Congratulations, by the way.
00:56:03Um...
00:56:04But I saw this English bloke.
00:56:06A seagull tried to nick one of his chips.
00:56:08And this bloke's like proper like cockney geezer.
00:56:10He just went,
00:56:11Oi!
00:56:12What have I told you?
00:56:13Like...
00:56:14Like the bird was suddenly gonna go,
00:56:15He has told me, why don't I listen?
00:56:18And then his wife, so beautiful, went,
00:56:21He won't understand you, Tony, you moron.
00:56:23He's Portuguese.
00:56:24Like that.
00:56:25Like, do you know what I mean?
00:56:27Like...
00:56:28And it was this beautiful...
00:56:29You know when you're lucky enough to see this...
00:56:32Just this...
00:56:33Oh, God.
00:56:34It was the best.
00:56:35Er...
00:56:36I know you've got...
00:56:37You've got a new show.
00:56:38I mean, we...
00:56:39Yes.
00:56:40Am I allowed to call it new?
00:56:41Because you've got this thing where...
00:56:42There's no shit thing as a new thing.
00:56:44It's kind of just sort of old things that we repurpose
00:56:46and give different names to.
00:56:47I'm obsessed with that.
00:56:48I just find language interesting in the minute.
00:56:50And I don't want to be that old fart.
00:56:51But it feels like there's lots of new words for old things.
00:56:54Do you know what I mean?
00:56:55Like, mindfulness, sitting still.
00:56:57Overnight oats, cold porridge.
00:57:01Polyamorous, you're a shagger.
00:57:04Like...
00:57:05Like...
00:57:06Like the phrase catfish, I think is such a fascinating word
00:57:09because...
00:57:10You know the phrase catfish, we go online,
00:57:12we pretend to be someone else.
00:57:14Catfish don't do that.
00:57:15They're not in the sea.
00:57:16Show us your tits, I'm a dolphin.
00:57:17That's...
00:57:18That is us.
00:57:20And then you sort of go,
00:57:21we blame animals because we're weird.
00:57:23Like, have you ever seen a rat snitch?
00:57:25Like, have you ever seen an elephant in a room go,
00:57:27I know.
00:57:28It's...
00:57:29I just find...
00:57:30I find all these little phrases.
00:57:32Like even...
00:57:33Where's the etymology of acting the maggot?
00:57:35Where does that come from?
00:57:36Yeah.
00:57:37I don't know.
00:57:38I have no joke on it.
00:57:39I'm asking you.
00:57:40You're not going to get any answers either.
00:57:42But is it because you're wriggly?
00:57:43I don't know.
00:57:44I don't know.
00:57:45Like, everything is...
00:57:46It feels invent...
00:57:47Like, I didn't know this.
00:57:48Every time I come here I find something new.
00:57:49But you have nicknames for the statues here.
00:57:51Yes.
00:57:52Which are what...
00:57:53You know, it's fantastic.
00:57:54Like, the tart with the cart.
00:57:56The floozy in the jacuzzi.
00:57:58Oh!
00:57:59I didn't want to stand still in case anyone was like,
00:58:01the river's swelling and you look like Ellen.
00:58:03Just in case they came out.
00:58:05But I just...
00:58:06I don't know.
00:58:07I think there's an energy to the place.
00:58:08Yeah.
00:58:09You've got the podcast Five Brilliant Things.
00:58:11Yes.
00:58:12You've had a few Irish people on that.
00:58:13Yes.
00:58:14Tell us a bit about that.
00:58:15Basically, it's a podcast where you talk about things you love.
00:58:18And you end up getting quite a different in-depth interview with someone
00:58:23because they're talking about themselves through things they adore.
00:58:26Whether it's family members or...
00:58:28We've had a lot of Japanese toilets for whatever reason.
00:58:31Okay.
00:58:32That has been the most picked thing of all the things.
00:58:35And what?
00:58:36These are these toilets that sort of...
00:58:37They kind of open up and they kind of...
00:58:39They clean you very specifically.
00:58:41I would heartily recommend them.
00:58:44Have you ever had a go on one?
00:58:46No, I haven't.
00:58:47And we've got one here today.
00:58:49That's Christmas sorted.
00:58:50Yeah, yeah.
00:58:51But they...
00:58:52Yeah, they're pretty special.
00:58:53Have you ever had a go?
00:58:54No, I haven't, no.
00:58:55Oh.
00:58:56Oh, Patrick, you'd love it.
00:58:57Is this...
00:58:58I'll sort you out with one.
00:59:01That sounds so great.
00:59:02I'll check that out when I'm going to...
00:59:04But it's kind of like...
00:59:05Sushi...
00:59:06Heated seats.
00:59:07The works.
00:59:08They're pretty cool.
00:59:09Okay, you're going to stay with us?
00:59:10I am.
00:59:11Yes.
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00:59:32Still to come on the show, Jennifer Zamparelli
00:59:34will be swapping waltzing for swinging.
00:59:37She talks sex and relationships just between us.
00:59:40Don't go away.
00:59:42No one else has been wrong
00:59:44Searching a home for for love
00:59:50We are young
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01:00:06You're back folks to the final part of the show.
01:00:07Russell Howard is still with us.
01:00:09host at Dancing with the Stars who's swapping waltzing for swinging in her raunchy new podcast
01:00:15that promises to get to the bottom and many other areas of sex and relationships. Here
01:00:20with all the right moves, please welcome Jennifer Zamparelli.
01:00:39Sorry, can we just clarify something? I'm not swapping waltzing for swinging, okay? Okay, okay. I'm talking about swinging. Yes. But I'm not actually doing the swinging yet. Fine. Okay. That was a real look. Checks, notes, correction. There we go. Okay, so you're not going to be swapping waltzing for
01:01:09swinging, but the new podcast is all about sex. It's all about relationships. It's called Just Between Us. It is, yep. And everybody else. Uh-huh. Getting it out in the open. Why not? Yeah. Why not? Swingers. Come on. What made you want to do this? Well, I suppose when I had the radio show, we did a segment which was sex therapy and we got a huge reaction and there seemed to be an appetite for talking about riding, you know? Yeah.
01:01:38So, no, sex and relationships. I'm giddy now because I'm last on. Um... That's what they say at swinging parties. Yeah.
01:01:50Very good. It's been... Yeah. Yeah. There's going to be lots of this. There's going to be lots of this. Um, so I just want to do a podcast that was speaking to ordinary people, doing extraordinary things.
01:02:06Having extraordinary experiences and, um, and this came about and The Independent asked me to do it and I jumped at the chance. It was like a hell yes. The first episode, you know, it is a bit risque. We do talk to Graeme, who's, uh, talks about the swinging community in Ireland and how it's thriving. It's doing really well. And it was just really interesting to hear his perspective.
01:02:32I was wondering about that. But actually, he talks about it quite profoundly, which was quite shocking and interesting as well. But I did learn one thing. He did say something that kind of stood out to me and it was, if you're ever in McDonald's at, like, four o'clock in the morning and there's a group of people who are all disheveled and exhausted looking, they've probably just come from a sex party.
01:02:58Right. You'll never look at a Big Mac the same again, I know. But, yeah. What meal do they get? I don't know.
01:03:06They should be sort of special, like the McSwinger or something like that.
01:03:10Yeah. So, yeah, I was learning all these things. It was great, yeah. And no judgement as well. So, whatever you're into, I'm here for it.
01:03:18So, I'm assuming this isn't something you can try to stick on at Christmas with all the family. Auntie Mary, Jen's podcast is on here.
01:03:25Auntie Mary might be into it. But, you know, maybe listen to it by yourself first. You know, definitely no kids around. You know, put the earphones in, go for a walk.
01:03:34And enjoy and learn and, you know. And that's the goal, is it?
01:03:39I suppose so. I suppose it's just about awareness and, you know, people live alternative lives. Not everybody has to live the same way.
01:03:48And it's quite interesting to hear, you know, what they get up to and why they get up to it.
01:03:53It doesn't mean you have to, you know, start doing it yourself or, you know, any of that.
01:03:57But, it's been eye-able. You're nodding there. You're nodding there. Why are you nodding?
01:04:01What was it? I mean, nodding terms of everyone embracing their own vibe. Oh, yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah, I think, but it's, but also, it's just interesting hearing that kind of stuff, isn't it?
01:04:10Yeah. You know, I kind of, like, and anyone who talks freely about, kind of, what they're into, you just kind of want to earwig, don't you?
01:04:17Yeah, and it's not even just about sex. We had a woman on who married her husband seven times.
01:04:24Wow. Yeah. And I love this episode because...
01:04:27What? Can I ask why? Like, did they divorce?
01:04:30She was actually married eight times. The first time didn't go too well.
01:04:33So, she met this guy and she married him seven times because every couple of years they did a check-in, you know, because lives change, people move on.
01:04:41And they wanted to make sure they still wanted to be in that relationship and have that conversation.
01:04:46But they went the whole hog. Like, they did the ceremony, they renewed their vows, and I thought that was an amazing thing to do.
01:04:53Now, I barely could get my husband to marry me the first time.
01:04:57So, but I love the idea of that kind of check-in and having those conversations.
01:05:03And I suppose a podcast like this will open up conversations like that in relationships, hopefully, and, you know...
01:05:10Yeah, so it covers a lot of ground. There's lots of different guests.
01:05:14I know you... Is there room for eco-sexuals on this you were talking about?
01:05:18Oh, I don't... Do you know about them?
01:05:20No, I don't.
01:05:20It's an extraordinary bunch of people that they believe they can heal the earth by making love to it.
01:05:27They're sick of their Mickey in the soil.
01:05:28That's right.
01:05:32That's what the episode will be called, Jen.
01:05:35That's what the episode will be called.
01:05:36This is why I'm on last.
01:05:38That was... That was the cackle that belongs at McDonald's at 4am.
01:05:43In fact, they're probably down Burger King getting a Whopper.
01:05:47Wow. Yeah, apparently.
01:05:48Why are you parenting?
01:05:49It's just clearly... Guess where they're from?
01:05:52So, it's America, obviously.
01:05:53It's just...
01:05:53Yeah, listen, I'm helping the earth.
01:05:56It's just the delusion of, like, that you're going to fix things by banging a hedge.
01:06:00Do you know what I mean?
01:06:00But it literally is that.
01:06:02Yeah, but it'd be a good episode.
01:06:04That'd be a great episode.
01:06:04But there's all, like, all that kind of...
01:06:07I mean, this is the type of stuff that we didn't get at school.
01:06:09I mean, sex education in Ireland, not great, Jen.
01:06:13No, not great.
01:06:13I don't know what it was like in the UK, but in Ireland, you know,
01:06:17you predominantly went to a Catholic school,
01:06:20a nun would wheel out the television, remember that?
01:06:23And would say stuff like,
01:06:25and the man and the woman would have a lovely little hug.
01:06:30And then God gave them a baby.
01:06:33Right.
01:06:34And that was it.
01:06:35I didn't know anything where anything went until I was about 42,
01:06:38you know what I mean?
01:06:39I'm still learning.
01:06:41It was all biology.
01:06:43And now we've gotten a lot better.
01:06:46What was it like in England?
01:06:47I don't know if this was specific to my school,
01:06:50but I remember that a teacher pulled out a broomstick
01:06:54and we had to put a condom on the broomstick,
01:06:57which is the safest game of Quidditch ever.
01:06:59But it was like all of us would kind of just do that.
01:07:04And the thing I think most about it is there was never any lessons on,
01:07:08there were never tips,
01:07:09there were never kind of technique or anything like that.
01:07:12But meanwhile, we were all taught how to play the recorder.
01:07:14And that's never, ever helped any man get a woman ever.
01:07:19But at least you were taught how to put a condom on because...
01:07:24Yeah, on a broomstick.
01:07:25Yeah, but condoms are banned in Ireland until, you know,
01:07:28the 90s or the 80s or the 90s.
01:07:31Oh, wow.
01:07:31Yeah, yeah, we had to go up more together.
01:07:33I mean, over here, we were more...
01:07:34It was more flutes than recorders.
01:07:38But it was that...
01:07:39What does your husband make of all of this?
01:07:44Well, if I catch him in McDonald's at 4 o'clock in the morning,
01:07:47he's going to be in big trouble.
01:07:49You know, he's very supportive.
01:07:50We're very open and, you know,
01:07:52like to have these conversations anyway.
01:07:54Not to say that we're going to be joining any mad party soon,
01:07:56but, you know, we've been together 18 years.
01:07:59Oh, there he is. Look at him.
01:08:00Yeah, he's not bad.
01:08:01It's not bad.
01:08:03There's one of those chains in the background.
01:08:05Huh?
01:08:08What goes on in there?
01:08:10That's the bedroom.
01:08:11That's the dojo.
01:08:13The dojo.
01:08:15There's a Japanese toilet up there.
01:08:18But, no, he's very supportive and obviously listens
01:08:21and quite enjoys the conversation.
01:08:25Quite enjoys the vibe.
01:08:26Dancing with the Stars is coming back.
01:08:28Yeah, you excited about that?
01:08:30Yeah.
01:08:31I'm excited.
01:08:32Now, are you coming back because there's two sort of dancing hosting...
01:08:36How dare you?
01:08:37Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm in it.
01:08:39I was in the photo call, so...
01:08:41You know, what I was going to say was that there's two dancing gigs available
01:08:44in London now that Tess and Claudia,
01:08:47would that be something that would interest you?
01:08:48Not at all.
01:08:49No?
01:08:50No, I love being home and I wouldn't get a look in over there, so I'm happy where I am.
01:08:56I love doing Dancing with the Stars and it sounds so cliché, but it is one of those lovely shows to work on.
01:09:01The crew are amazing.
01:09:02The producer, Eugenia, did send me on a mission.
01:09:06She was like, get Gabriel Byrne to say I'll do Dancing with the Stars.
01:09:10I was like, I can't even say hello to him.
01:09:12I'm so nervous.
01:09:13But it is coming back.
01:09:14We have lots of fresh blood.
01:09:16We have Oti, who's a new judge.
01:09:18Oti Mabusi, a new judge.
01:09:19Yeah, Laura Fox, who's extremely excited about everything all the time,
01:09:23so she'll be a lovely injection of personality and enthusiasm.
01:09:27And it gets me through the winter, because we kind of go into the studio in January
01:09:33and it's all dark and gloomy and we come out in spring, so...
01:09:37At four o'clock in the morning at McDonald's.
01:09:38Yeah.
01:09:41Have you ever been tempted by Strictly the Dancing?
01:09:44I've been offered many times, but yeah, I...
01:09:46No, I dance like a newborn pony.
01:09:48I don't... I just have no skill whatsoever.
01:09:51But that doesn't matter.
01:09:52Yeah, but then also, like, I'm quite lucky I have, like, an audience,
01:09:56but I wouldn't necessarily want the people that watch Strictly in the UK
01:09:59to come to my gigs.
01:10:00Why?
01:10:00They'd be very easily upset.
01:10:02Okay.
01:10:03Do you know what I mean?
01:10:04That it's sort of, like, you don't want it kind of smudged too much.
01:10:07Okay.
01:10:08You know, there'd be a lot of, oh, oh, ghastly.
01:10:11And all that.
01:10:12It's awful, why is she saying that?
01:10:14McDonald's, four in the morning?
01:10:15You know, just...
01:10:17Okay.
01:10:18Guys, before we let you go, we know that Russell loves a headline.
01:10:21You are obviously forgetting everything out in the open,
01:10:24so we've got three headlines for you here, guys.
01:10:27We just want you to see if you can spot between you
01:10:29the real sex story from the fake ones that we've just made up.
01:10:35So our first headline, here it is.
01:10:38A couple having sex at sea become stuck together
01:10:43and have to be separated in hospital.
01:10:45Do we think that's...
01:10:46What do we think?
01:10:46Is that real?
01:10:47How would that happen?
01:10:48Yeah, I mean, fair play.
01:10:50If you can get it up in the Irish Sea, that's incredible.
01:10:51Because that is an absolute cock robber of an ocean.
01:10:59Isn't it?
01:10:59It's like, as soon as you touch it...
01:11:00I can suddenly see why the Strictly audience...
01:11:02Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:11:03Yeah.
01:11:04Sorry.
01:11:05I think that's fake, because surely you would...
01:11:07But you would be able to sort of...
01:11:09Dismantle.
01:11:10Disentangle before hospital.
01:11:12I think fake.
01:11:12I don't see how you get stuck together.
01:11:16Unless you got so cold, but no, then it would get small...
01:11:19No, it's fake.
01:11:19Yeah, it's fake.
01:11:21That's actually a real new story from Italy.
01:11:23What?
01:11:24How?
01:11:24Yeah, the sea much warmer over there.
01:11:27Where is it from?
01:11:28Italy.
01:11:28Oh, OK.
01:11:29Italy.
01:11:30OK, second headline for you.
01:11:32That's so funny, the entire audience went, well, obviously.
01:11:34Well, obviously, of course.
01:11:36OK.
01:11:36OK, customer horrified after spotting the sandwich shop with clothes for sex.
01:11:42For a 30-minute sign.
01:11:44That's fake, isn't it?
01:11:45Really fake?
01:11:46Yeah, because you wouldn't have that sign already made,
01:11:49and who's horny and then quickly makes a sign.
01:11:51Like, you wouldn't go, oh, do you fancy a shark?
01:11:53OK.
01:11:5530.
01:11:56I think it's true.
01:11:57I think it's true.
01:11:57It's true?
01:11:58Yeah.
01:11:58OK.
01:11:59Yeah?
01:11:59Jen's going...
01:12:00I've done shop and lists and everything before, you know,
01:12:02so I think...
01:12:03LAUGHTER
01:12:04That is true.
01:12:05That's a true one from America.
01:12:07Oh, there you go.
01:12:07Jen, well done.
01:12:08Yeah, come on, Ireland!
01:12:09Well done.
01:12:10Finally.
01:12:11Finally, uh, holidaymakers having sex orgy in van fined by police
01:12:20for not wearing seatbelts.
01:12:22What do you think, real or fake?
01:12:23That feels like that could be...
01:12:25There's a lady who's shaking her head, so let's go with you, madam.
01:12:28You feel...
01:12:28LAUGHTER
01:12:29You were in that van and...
01:12:30LAUGHTER
01:12:31I was driving.
01:12:33You were driving, yeah.
01:12:35Um...
01:12:35What do you think?
01:12:36Have you got that, um, we buy any car over here?
01:12:39Uh...
01:12:40The website?
01:12:40Yeah.
01:12:41Because that would really test it.
01:12:43It would, yes.
01:12:43After that van.
01:12:45I think...
01:12:45I think it's false.
01:12:47Because that lady was shaking with such...
01:12:49I think it's false, because it's their...
01:12:51You know, their dog, and that's what it's got...
01:12:53And that's...
01:12:53That's illegal, right?
01:12:54I'm pretty sure...
01:12:55Right?
01:12:56Yeah.
01:12:56What?
01:12:56It's like, oh, I'm saying anything!
01:12:58But again...
01:12:59So they could have just got done for that.
01:13:01Guy in the back going, no, it's not.
01:13:02LAUGHTER
01:13:03That is actually, uh, that is true.
01:13:06What?!
01:13:07That is also a true headline.
01:13:08That is from, that's from Ibiza.
01:13:10Ibiza, OK.
01:13:12Wow.
01:13:12Apparently, yeah, you didn't have your belt on for, for safety.
01:13:16And doggone is legal in Ibiza!
01:13:17I have no idea.
01:13:19That's the next episode, Jen.
01:13:21Brilliant.
01:13:21Jen, thank you so much.
01:13:22Thanks for having me.
01:13:23Thank you so much.
01:13:24For joining us.
01:13:25Give it up one more time for Jennifer Zamperi and Russell Hartford.
01:13:29Oh.
01:13:31Jennifer G Podcasts, Just Between Us, is available wherever you get your podcasts.
01:13:36Time now to find out who is a competition winner.
01:13:39Do I have Emyr Parkinson from County Dublin on the line?
01:13:43How are you getting on, Emyr?
01:13:44Oh, my God!
01:13:45How are you passing?
01:13:46Oh, how are you getting on, Emyr?
01:13:48You've won tonight's competition.
01:13:50How does it feel?
01:13:51Oh, my God!
01:13:54I can't believe it.
01:13:55Absolutely win.
01:13:57Brilliant.
01:13:57Brilliant.
01:13:58You sound very excited.
01:13:59You could be a guest on Jen's podcast by the sounds of things.
01:14:03Oh, well, tell her I'm our number one fan.
01:14:05I'll be there.
01:14:08Congratulations, Emyr.
01:14:10That is our winner tonight.
01:14:11Give her a round of applause.
01:14:12Emyr, right on.
01:14:15OK.
01:14:16That's it for this week, folks.
01:14:19Join us next Friday for our big, big toy show ticket giveaway.
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01:14:31I've been Patrick Keighley.
01:14:32Thank you very much.
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