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00:00The Arrest is the pivotal moment in any investigation.
00:13If you get it wrong, then it's game over.
00:22Police officer with a taser!
00:24Taser, taser, taser!
00:30Taser, taser, taser!
00:44Everything they're doing is on body-worn video.
00:46Police!
00:48Everything they're doing would be examined by defence lawyers.
00:54They can't make any mistakes.
00:56I haven't done any big problems!
01:26A nine-year-old girl, who we can name today as Olivia Pratt-Corbell, has died following a shooting last night.
01:38At 10pm last night, our officers were called to Olivia's home.
01:44And when we arrived, we found three people had been injured, including Olivia and her mum.
01:54It is believed that one of the injured parties, a 35-year-old man, was being chased by a man armed with a gun, who was firing at him.
02:02The man being chased forced his way into Olivia's house, and the offender ran in after him, firing a number of shots.
02:14Sadly, Olivia was fatally wounded when the gunman fired at the man, who was trying to get into the house.
02:20And her mum also suffered a gunshot to her wrist.
02:24A country in shock, and a ruthless killer on the loose.
02:42Nearly two weeks on from Olivia's shooting, police prepare to arrest the man who pulled the trigger.
02:48The risk would have been extremely high at this stage, because once we go to the flat, we don't know how he's going to react.
03:00We know he's the gunman, so he could have the firearms in that flat, and there's only one way in.
03:08So there would have been an awful lot of trepidation.
03:12There would have been an awful lot of background work gone in.
03:16But at the end of the day, somebody's got a knock on that door, and tell him he's been arrested on suspicion of the murder of Olivia Pratt-Corbell.
03:29Our police! Come to the front door! With nothing in your hands!
03:34Come on! Come on! Come on! Show him on! Show him on!
03:37Show him on! Get down! Get your hands for hurting her!
03:39My hands are in the air. Before I break out, I've got nothing on me.
03:43The moment those officers are confronted by that male, it's essential that, one, they confirm very clearly who they are, that there's no confusion about who they are, that they're armed officers.
03:56And that it's important that, at that moment, they gain immediate control.
04:00I've got nothing on me. Put your hands behind you, Dad.
04:02OK, there you go. Look at that.
04:04See where you are? He's going to drop you off your phone.
04:06They have to be very, very clear in their demands to ensure that he hasn't got time to think, he hasn't got time to return inside of that property.
04:14Put your hands behind you, Dad. OK, there you go. Look at that.
04:17See where you are? He's going to drop you off your phone. Do you understand what they're saying to you?
04:21Yes, sir. No, it's not.
04:24This here is an example of one of the weapons seen carried by the officers. This is a SIG MCX.
04:31What have we done? What have we done? Come on.
04:36It can fire in a semi-automatic and an automatic state, so a magazine of 30 rounds can be fired off very, very quickly.
04:44In fact, a weapon like this, if it was in fully automatic, could fire upwards of 800 to 900 rounds a minute.
04:52I've got nothing on me. Just put my pants down, you'll see. There's nothing here. It's all I'm messing around.
04:56Anyone that is familiar with firearms, upon looking at a weapon like this, would understand that they are highly powerful,
05:05they're highly accurate, and of course, ultimately, they're highly lethal.
05:09I'm not resisting. I am resisting one little bit. I just want to know what I've done. That's all.
05:15All I want to know is what I'm arrested for. Tell me what I'm arrested for.
05:21All day, flowers have been arriving in Olivia's street. Police say her family had no connection whatsoever to the gunman
05:41or to the man who forced his way into their home.
05:46The murder of Olivia Pratt Corbell sparked one of the biggest and most urgent manhunts in UK history.
05:55But in order to trace her ruthless killer, detectives first had to penetrate a community living in fear.
06:02For years, we'd had this no-grass culture in areas across Liverpool,
06:10whereby a lot of the local community were very, very scared of going to the police.
06:17They were afraid of reprisals.
06:21Detectives believe the shooting was the result of a gangland feud
06:25and the local media have urged potential witnesses to break the so-called wall of silence.
06:33However, when a nine-year-old girl is shot in this way,
06:38people's opinions did begin to change. The tide did seem to turn.
06:45People were saying that enough is enough.
06:48Enough is enough.
06:57Shortly after the murder, police recovered CCTV, showing exactly what happened in the build-up.
07:04Just before 10pm, shots ring out on a quiet residential street.
07:14Seconds later, a hooded man fires at another from close range.
07:19His Glock pistol then apparently jams.
07:23But he carries on pursuing his target, who runs towards Olivia's house for safety.
07:27Now on the front path, he produces a second gun, a .3 calibre revolver.
07:36The fact that the gunman was in possession of two weapons
07:41leads us to suspect that he has experience in firearms.
07:46It also clearly shows that he was determined,
07:50but more so determined to actually make sure the job was done.
07:53Olivia's mum, Cheryl, heard the noise of the gunshots outside.
07:59She went to the door and opened the door to see what was going on in the street.
08:03Little Olivia runs downstairs, having heard the same noise,
08:07and says, Mum, I'm scared.
08:10They were her last words before the shot came into the house,
08:14hit her mum, and then hit Olivia in the chest.
08:18Because of CCTV, we know there's effectively another victim out there
08:27who has been shot and therefore injured.
08:30The likelihood is, obviously, if somebody's been shot,
08:34they're going to have to get urgent medical treatment.
08:39So it would have been a routine thing to visit all the A&Es
08:43in the immediate area as to try and track down who this victim has been.
08:52Police soon got their answer.
08:55At a hospital four miles away, CCTV captured a man
09:00being carried in with gunshot wounds.
09:01He was Joseph Knee, a 35-year-old serial offender
09:11who'd served prison terms for drug offences and burglary.
09:14Despite the attempt on his life, he kept to the unwritten criminal's code,
09:19refusing to name the man who'd fired the gun.
09:21I'm going to show you some footage in a moment of a man that murdered Olivia.
09:35As the gunman remained on the run, detectives released new images of him,
09:42surveying the street before the shooting and fleeing afterwards.
09:47They also brought in image analysts to build a clearer picture.
09:51Here we can see the real progress we've made in the inquiry.
09:58So we can see he's got distinctive white trainers.
10:03Also, the distinctive mark on his trozos, some kind of logo.
10:08By his movements, he's athletic, so he's young.
10:10And by seeing him run by fixed objects, maybe a wall or a bus shelter,
10:16which can be measured, then we can calculate that his height is about 5'7".
10:22So we've got a build, we've got a height, we've got distinctive clothing,
10:28but the gunman is wearing a balaclava, so we haven't got a face
10:32and the police have yet to still find a name so they can make an arrest.
10:40Everyone that she met, they all fell in love with her.
10:55She left a mark on everyone that she met.
11:03With the hunt becoming ever more desperate, police turned to Olivia's mother.
11:07Still recovering from her own injuries to make a public appeal.
11:13She may well have only been nine, but she packed a lot in them nine years.
11:22To see that appeal and to see the pain and heartache and horror etched into her face,
11:30you can't help but be affected by it.
11:36She'd hurt your ears because she'd never, never stop talking.
11:45And that's what I miss the most.
11:49Because I can't hear the talk.
11:51She's so upset and yet you can sense, really sense this deep anger inside her.
12:05What happened and also the fact that maybe nobody is coming forward
12:10to help the police with information at this point.
12:12And at the end of that appeal, she directly addresses the killer.
12:18You know you've done wrong.
12:21So you need to own up.
12:24Like I've taught my kids.
12:27You do something wrong, you own up to it.
12:30You own up to it.
12:31You know it's a way.
12:55As the police hoped, Gerald Corbell's appeal prompted a key witness to come forward.
13:00A woman who'd had a previous relationship with a local criminal
13:04said he'd visited her house after the shooting,
13:08highly agitated and asking for a change of clothing.
13:12She named him as Thomas Cashman, 34 years old
13:16and with rumoured links to two other shootings.
13:21Cashman was a notorious figure in the Dovecott area.
13:25He was a known drug dealer.
13:27He ended up to £5,000 a week dealing cannabis.
13:30He lived in a £450,000 house with his girlfriend and two children.
13:36He had a reputation for violence
13:39and he was undoubtedly someone to be feared.
13:50Although Cashman lived in Liverpool, he left the city after the shooting,
13:55moving to an apartment on the other side of the River Mersey.
14:00But arresting him here posed stiff challenges for the police.
14:07The officers are dealing with the suspect in a very close environment,
14:11in a flat within a corridor space.
14:13Very rarely is there ever a place in a corridor for an officer to take cover,
14:17so they're very open.
14:17And, of course, modern-day buildings, the walls are relatively thin.
14:24And if a firearm is discharged in a corridor space,
14:27it's very easy to imagine that a bullet can easily penetrate through one of those walls.
14:31So, on the approach, they would be concerned by what state is the individual in?
14:40Are they armed?
14:41Are they aware of their presence?
14:42Are they willing to fire their gun from inside, blindly through the wall?
14:47There's so much for those officers to be thinking about.
14:49And that's just prior to the arrest, before the door's even knocked.
14:52So, you can already hear, at this point, the verbal domination,
15:07them shouting at him on the ground.
15:09They want to be able to see his hands.
15:15They want to make sure that he's not in possession of any firearms.
15:18Put your hands behind you, Dad.
15:19OK, there you go.
15:20He needs to know exactly what they are telling him to do.
15:24And it's those very brief seconds, it's those moments where you are in a position of dominance,
15:29that's the moment that they need to gain control and keep him safely on the floor.
15:34If they continue that for much longer, he has the chance to regain his thoughts,
15:39and there he poses a further risk.
15:41Stay where you are, and exactly what you've told.
15:43Do you understand what I'm saying to you?
15:44Come here, I'm in the small of your back.
15:52So, you notice his hands are now in handcuffs.
15:54He is no longer an immediate threat, certainly from a firearms perspective.
16:00But already now, in the brief seconds that this has taken, he's regained some confidence.
16:09He's getting a bit more aggressive and defiant, demanding to know what he's done.
16:13He's now verbally shouting, he's loud.
16:19What have I done?
16:20Put your knees up to your chest.
16:22Come on, knees up to your chest.
16:24Sit on your arse.
16:26Stand up.
16:27Sometimes you may hear the officers talking to him in a way that may seem a little bit short in the words that they're using.
16:34What's really important this time is those officers are talking to him in a language that he understands.
16:39Come on, knees up to your chest.
16:41Sit on your arse.
16:42That sometimes might mean they swear.
16:44It might mean that they're loud.
16:45It might mean they're aggressive.
16:46But it's what gets results.
16:48Tell me what I'm arrested for.
16:50You're under arrest on suspicion of murder and a suspicion of attempt murder twice.
16:58All right, you do not have to say anything.
16:59You don't mention my question.
17:03Something which you may later line the cross.
17:04Anything you do say, we'll be giving them evidence.
17:06I haven't committed no offence what yous are talking about.
17:09All right.
17:10Lift them up a little minute.
17:11None.
17:12None whatsoever.
17:14It's clear at this point he's not intimidated by this process at all.
17:17He's given back now a bit to the officers.
17:20You fucking mad, honey.
17:22He's a defiant.
17:23I ain't resisting.
17:24I'm not resisting one little bit.
17:29I'm calm.
17:30I'm calm.
17:31It's usually I don't seem a little bit too calm.
17:34It would suggest to me he's somebody who has had a lot of experience being dealt with by the police.
17:40I haven't committed no offence what yous are talking about.
17:43All right.
17:43Lift them up a little minute.
17:45None.
17:45None whatsoever.
17:54When he was interviewed, Cashman was pretty hostile to the investigators.
18:10What I'd like to say is I've got no involvement at all in any of these crimes that you put forward towards me.
18:18Nothing whatsoever.
18:21His attitude was very much denial, defiant, which didn't surprise me at all because it's a bravado.
18:31It's an image he's got to present at this particular time.
18:35For the rest of the team, oh, and no comments.
18:38But I'm just stating clear I have got no involvement in any of the crimes that yous are putting forward to me.
18:46What would have been the situation if he'd have broke down in floods of tears?
18:49He would basically be showing remorse, showing evidence of guilt, and he couldn't do that.
18:59I would like to know where you were on Monday, the 22nd of August.
19:03No comments.
19:05Are you responsible for the murder of Olivia Pratt-Corwell?
19:08No comments.
19:09With no confession or forensic links, police had to release Cashman on bail.
19:27But during his time back on the streets, they gathered crucial new evidence.
19:33Among the most damning was a fresh analysis from the expert imaging team.
19:37The white flashes on the trousers, there's something there.
19:42And this really showed up as fluorescent under the street lamps.
19:47In footage captured during and immediately after the shooting,
19:51they'd noticed a distinct white L logo on the gunman's tracksuit bottoms.
19:57Now police were able to provide them with new CCTV images of their suspect,
20:03recorded two days after the murder.
20:05Here we see Cashman entering a lift in an apartment block.
20:11Straight away you can see that he fits the build and height descriptions
20:15that have been given previously from the earlier footage.
20:19But this is very high quality CCTV, HD quality.
20:23And looking at his clothes, he's obviously a man who likes logos.
20:27And look at the distinctive logo on his tracksuit bottoms
20:30and look at what the gunman was seen to be wearing at the time of the shooting.
20:40Following this new evidence and the discovery of gunshot residue on his clothing,
20:45police arrested Cashman a second time, charging him with murder, attempted murder and wounding with intent.
20:53The trial got underway amid the tightest of security,
21:09an armed escort for a man with known gangland links.
21:13It says a lot, I guess, about Thomas Cashman that he didn't show any remorse even during the trial.
21:20He maintained his innocence, implying this was all a case of mistaken identity.
21:26And it's quite chilling that he never appeared to take any responsibility whatsoever.
21:33Following three weeks of evidence, the jury found Cashman guilty of all charges.
21:39But after the verdicts, he refused to come up to the dock to hear his sentence
21:44or to look his victim's relatives in the eye.
21:50I think it was the last act of defiance from Thomas Cashman in relation to this case.
21:59But I think to be denied the opportunity where the perpetrator doesn't face the remarks from the judge,
22:16doesn't come face to face with the victim's family,
22:19must be extremely, extremely frustrating for the family who are looking for some form of justice.
22:28And, of course, closure.
22:34In Cashman's absence, the judge jailed him for life with a minimum of 42 years.
22:41He may never, ever live to see freedom again.
22:46He may now die in prison.
22:50You can take from that that crimes like this, guns on the streets,
22:54innocence like Olivia being shot will not be tolerated.
22:59Get your arms behind you, Dad!
23:01My hands are in the ear.
23:02What's wrong, brother?
23:03I've got nothing on me.
23:04Put your hands behind you, Dad.
23:06OK, there you go.
23:07His sentencing reflects exactly what somebody deserves when they carry out that sort of behaviour.
23:14I'm going to throw you back.
23:15Some would argue that that length of service wasn't even long enough
23:19and that life should mean life.
23:22I think in this case, it sent a very, very clear and strong message.
23:28And I believe he deserves every year that you've got.
23:30It's a normal Friday.
23:58Everyone's winding down for the weekend.
24:00School's finished.
24:01People are rush hour, getting home to their kids.
24:04Everyone's happy.
24:05And then, of course, a 999 call comes in.
24:07The caller had said that there was a melee or an argument in the street
24:17and somebody had been seriously hurt.
24:19Someone had been stabbed.
24:20So, of course, then, emergency services made their way to the area.
24:29I think the police officers on scene, their first impression would probably have been,
24:33this is a fight, a street fight.
24:36Unfortunately, we see this on the news every day, lads fighting, stabbing each other.
24:41However, it became apparent very quickly that actually the victim was a girl.
24:44It's quite a chaotic scene, as you can imagine.
24:54There's blue lights flashing.
24:55It's night time.
24:57Members of the public have grabbed hold of who they suspect to be the knife man.
25:02The police have come here and arrested him.
25:04I think just from the officer's instructions, you know, he's quite clear.
25:28He's like, ban now.
25:30Yeah?
25:31Ban now.
25:33He's giving him blunt, straight instruction rather than,
25:37all right, mate, what's happening?
25:40Something's happened to this young girl and he knows what happened.
25:43Have you got anything in your pockets?
25:44My phone.
25:46So, naturally, the officer's going to keep searching him.
25:48I know he's said he's got his phone on him,
25:50but we know that he's just been involved in a knife attack.
25:52So, there's no chances here.
25:54You can't take the risk.
25:55You've got to search him thoroughly.
25:56You don't know if he's got any more weapons on him.
25:58Another knife could hurt anyone else.
26:01What's your name?
26:02Logan McPhil.
26:04Logan?
26:04Logan Shane McPhil.
26:08Who's the last?
26:11Do you know her name?
26:12Holly Mouton.
26:13Who?
26:14Holly Mouton.
26:15Mouton.
26:17Where's she from?
26:18Holly Mouton.
26:20OK, he knows where this victim is
26:22and he's able to tell her where she lives.
26:24So, of course, this now changes things.
26:27This isn't a random attack or a gang fight.
26:30This is really personal.
26:32These two people know each other.
26:34This changes the entire dynamic of what's about to happen.
26:38So, this is interesting.
26:48He's trying to get out that she'd kind of pushed him to do it.
26:55He's trying to paint a picture that he's somehow the victim in this.
26:58But the real victim was Holly,
27:10who shortly afterwards died from her wounds.
27:15Police now began piecing together the history of her relationship with McPhil
27:19to find out why it had ended so violently.
27:23Holly was an amazing young girl.
27:34She loved her dancing.
27:35She was really sporty, outgoing.
27:37Loved being with her friends and her family
27:39and loved animals so much.
27:44She really wanted to become a dance teacher.
27:47She had an interest in helping young dancers
27:50who maybe couldn't afford competitions and stuff
27:53and wanted to somehow help them
27:56to be able to get to competitions and follow their dreams.
27:58Holly met McPhil after they both joined the Army cadets.
28:07He was a year older and had autism and learning difficulties.
28:13This was Holly's first relationship
28:15and I don't actually think at that age it was anything major.
28:20It was just, you know, kids at that age,
28:23it's good to see I've got a boyfriend.
28:27But I do think it was probably more intense for Logan.
28:32The relationship, it had its ups and downs.
28:35They sometimes fell out and they would get back together again.
28:38But after 18 months, Holly had decided
28:40she was probably a little bit more mature than he was
28:43and she decided that she wanted to break up with him.
28:48But he couldn't accept that.
28:50He didn't want it to end.
28:53It was probably just after Christmas, 2022.
29:00She had mentioned that she wasn't sure
29:03if she wanted to be with Logan anymore.
29:05And I'd said that she needed to, you know,
29:10make a decision and be final with it.
29:14It wasn't long after that when she said,
29:17I've been trying to leave him,
29:19but he keeps threatening to kill himself.
29:23McPhail had grown increasingly possessive of Holly,
29:30demanding to know who else she was mixing with.
29:33At one point, he even locked her out of her social media accounts.
29:37There was once when she wanted to go out with her friends
29:41and he didn't want that to happen.
29:46And he said, no, he needed to be with Holly.
29:50He sat on the bathroom floor.
29:52He sobbed and cried inconsolable.
29:55And Holly didn't even know how to react to that.
29:58She said, I feel awful now.
30:00I feel so sorry for him.
30:01But that was his game.
30:03That's how he wanted her to feel.
30:05Sorry for him.
30:06Despite McPhail's emotional blackmail,
30:24Holly finally told him she wanted to break up.
30:27But even after she blocked him on her mobile devices,
30:30he refused to move on.
30:32The night before the killing,
30:36Logan McPhail left his school
30:38and rather than going home,
30:40he went on a bus to where Holly lived.
30:45And having got himself there,
30:46he hung about her house,
30:48obviously waiting for the opportunity to see her
30:50and speak to her.
30:55McPhail actually contacts Holly's brother
30:57and asked her younger brother
30:59to get him access to the house.
31:01And he said no
31:02and he didn't allow him into the house.
31:05Unfortunately, McPhail still was not happy about this.
31:10And he actually stayed outside Holly's house
31:12for around four hours,
31:13walking up and down, up and down
31:15until about 1am,
31:17which is quite alarming.
31:18He's been infatuated with her
31:22and starts harassing her.
31:28After McPhail's mother reported him missing,
31:31the police found him and took him home.
31:35But as texts from Holly would show,
31:38his jealousy and obsession remained.
31:40He's been infatuated with her.
32:10You can tell from the volume of people
32:19that attended Holly's funeral
32:20what a shock this was to the community
32:21and how upsetting it was.
32:26It was quite a turnout
32:27and it was a really nice gesture,
32:30a show of respect
32:31that people wore an item of purple clothing
32:34because Holly's favourite colour was purple.
32:40What's your name?
32:52Talking McPhail.
32:54Who's the last?
32:57Do you know her name?
32:58Holly moved into.
33:01What's your date of birth?
33:03You don't know.
33:04Stop being clever, right?
33:05You know how much body you're in?
33:06What's your date of birth?
33:07I don't really know, right.
33:08Right?
33:08But you know what your date of birth date is?
33:10No, I don't.
33:12Huh?
33:12I know nothing.
33:13When Logan claimed to be able to give his date of birth
33:19and his address,
33:20that was definitely a start of his game playing.
33:24He knew that if he played
33:26like he didn't understand,
33:29like he had serious learning difficulties,
33:33that he could possibly escape responsibility.
33:37McPhail's apparent confusion after the murder
33:43was wildly at odds with his behaviour before it,
33:47as police found when they recovered hours' worth of CCTV
33:51captured on the day.
33:52Here we see three teenagers.
34:05They're carefree and they're off to have a bit of fun
34:07and just socialise and be friends.
34:10It's a scene you see in every town centre.
34:14After school finishes,
34:16Holly and her two friends begin their shopping trip.
34:19But unknown to them,
34:21McPhail has already made his way to Hexham,
34:24armed with a kitchen knife.
34:32So we see Logan McPhail getting off the bus from Gateshead.
34:37He's got a baseball cap pulled down
34:39and then he's putting a snood on.
34:44It's a cold day, but he's been out for two and a half hours.
34:47It's not as if he needs that to keep warm.
34:50He's putting that on to cover his face
34:53so people can't recognise him
34:55and he knows he's going to be following Holly,
34:57who could recognise him.
35:05He's on the phone there
35:06and we know from phone records subsequently found by the police
35:11that he was calling people,
35:13telling them that he was in Newcastle
35:15rather than Hexham 20 miles away.
35:18He's trying to paint a picture
35:20that he's not where he actually is.
35:30After spotting Holly and her friends,
35:33McPhail tails them around town
35:35using techniques he'd learned as an army cadet.
35:38When you see the CCTV,
35:41one's first reaction is that
35:43this was a very chilling
35:45and dangerous young man
35:48because he was able to follow.
35:50He had a knife with him.
35:52He was disguising himself
35:53and he was very determined about it.
35:56At one point,
35:58you could see that he was in a supermarket car park
36:01and he was hiding, crouching down
36:04in order to make sure that he was not seen by her.
36:06He knew exactly what he was doing.
36:22As darkness falls,
36:24one of Holly's friends heads home
36:26and the other, a 16-year-old boy,
36:29goes into a pizza takeaway store.
36:31And that's the point
36:34when McPhail approaches her
36:35and it's almost like
36:37he's seen that opportunity
36:38and thought that's his time to strike.
36:40She's now vulnerable
36:41because she's on her own.
36:43You know, it's him and her.
36:46So now McPhail has got what he wanted.
36:49He can take this opportunity
36:51to try and make his case
36:53for them to get back together again.
36:55But something's happened in that conversation.
36:59He decides to walk down an alleyway
37:02and he asks her to come with him.
37:07It's believed that McPhail
37:08had manipulated Holly
37:10into going into the alleyway
37:11by telling her he couldn't quite hear her,
37:12you know, too much noise
37:14from the traffic on the busy road
37:15and told her to come in the alleyway
37:17where it's a bit quieter
37:18so they could talk.
37:19And unfortunately,
37:20she followed him in there,
37:22even if it was unwillingly.
37:25I think she's told him
37:30in no uncertain terms,
37:32it's over,
37:33our relationship's done with.
37:34And that's the point
37:35where he's lost all inability
37:37to think rationally.
37:41And in rage,
37:42it's kind of like
37:43if I can't have you,
37:44no one can.
37:49When Holly's friend
37:50heard her screams,
37:51he ran into the alleyway
37:53to intervene.
37:55But McPhail fought him off
37:56with the knife,
37:58inflicting wounds
37:59to his neck and shoulder.
38:00He then began
38:01stabbing Holly again.
38:05It was a ferocious attack.
38:07The pathologist spoke
38:09of in excess of 35 wounds.
38:11The knife was broken,
38:15it was so badly damaged.
38:24We were driving home
38:25and Holly was ringing.
38:28So I answered the phone
38:29and it was a lady on the phone
38:31and she said,
38:31I've got your daughter's phone.
38:33and I said,
38:35oh, where's she left it?
38:36I'll come and get it.
38:36She'll be, you know,
38:38lost without it.
38:39And she said,
38:40that was when she said,
38:41no, she's been stabbed.
38:46And I remember just
38:48screaming.
38:54We knew straight away
38:55who'd done it.
38:55After his arrest,
39:07McPhail insisted
39:08he had no memory
39:09of the attack.
39:11But it was a lie,
39:13as shown by the bodycam footage.
39:15That was really important
39:34because his case was
39:36that he just happened
39:37to be in the alleyway with her
39:38and he didn't know
39:41what had happened.
39:41He'd gone blank.
39:42But that assertion from him,
39:44she'd been horrible to me.
39:46It was meant for myself.
39:48Went too far.
39:49Gave the light
39:50to everything he was saying
39:51because it made it clear
39:53what his motivation was
39:54when he went into the alleyway,
39:56which was that
39:57she'd been horrible to him.
39:58She was pushing him away
40:00and he reacted
40:01and he took the knife,
40:03whether he'd meant it
40:03for himself originally or not,
40:05he took the knife
40:06and he killed her.
40:11It later emerged
40:12that on the day of the murder,
40:13the police had agreed
40:15to see Holly and her mother
40:16to discuss Macphail's
40:18stalking and harassment.
40:20A meeting was set
40:21for 4pm.
40:25Holly was a young girl.
40:27It's Friday.
40:28She naturally wants
40:29to see her friend.
40:31And Holly asked her mum
40:32multiple times,
40:35can we rearrange the appointment?
40:36Can we just go a little bit later
40:38just so I can see my friends?
40:39I got a lot of text messages
40:43saying it's so unfair.
40:46Logan ruins everything for me.
40:49He's always stopped me
40:50from going out with my friends.
40:52So I said, right, OK,
40:54well, you need to be back then
40:56for no later than 7pm
40:57because the police are coming at 8pm.
41:00It's definitely one of the biggest mistakes
41:16of my life.
41:18But he intended to do this
41:20and, like some people have said to me,
41:24even if he hadn't have got her
41:26that Friday night,
41:28he would have done that eventually
41:30because he was so obsessed
41:31with her and so jealous.
41:32The killer of schoolgirl Holly Newton
41:45has been jailed for life
41:47with a minimum term of 17 years.
41:50The judge said her former boyfriend,
41:52Logan McPhail,
41:53was fuelled by jealousy and resentment
41:55after she ended their relationship.
41:57Since the verdict,
42:03Holly's mother has called on the government
42:05to lower the age
42:06at which children are officially recognised
42:08as victims of domestic abuse by partners.
42:13Holly's case goes down as knife crime
42:16simply because Holly wasn't old enough
42:18to be a victim of domestic abuse,
42:21which to me is absolutely ridiculous.
42:24Every part of Holly's murder
42:28and leading up to it
42:29is a classic case of domestic abuse.
42:33But I like to think
42:34she could have got out
42:35that relationship earlier
42:36before it got so extreme.
42:43Lowering the domestic abuse age
42:45from 18 to 16
42:46would mean victims like Holly
42:48being subject to a homicide review
42:50to pinpoint lessons that can be learned.
42:54It could also mean
42:56school pupils learning
42:57how to spot the warning signs
42:58of coercive control.
43:03I don't want Holly to be remembered
43:05as the girl that was murdered in Hexham.
43:10I would like eventually
43:12for Holly to be remembered
43:14as the girl who saved lives,
43:16the girl who helped other young people.
43:19And just to be remembered
43:24as, you know,
43:25an amazing, bright and bubbly girl
43:27that she was.
43:28She had a threat to theальной terror
43:31as the girl who had a city
43:31so she didn't believe
43:32were at singing
43:33and is one of the other
43:34who had a reign of perhaps
43:35but she could have been
43:35what happened there
43:36and she could have wrists
43:37and she could have a connection
43:37to the police scene
43:38and everyone,
43:38just to have a friendships
43:39with one of the other
43:40or something
43:40who went over with him
43:45may have reflect Ric
43:45in her mother's connection
43:50what she perbet
43:50was they through
43:51and there was she
43:54handwritten
43:55mother who had a shift
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