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00:00Quants are meant to challenge the very fundamentals, the very fundamentals.
00:08There is a particular Rinzai school named after a teacher, Rinzai, and this Rinzai was a very
00:16peculiar teacher actually, and quants are attributed to him. So what Rinzai innovated
00:22was a method of shock. They shocked the mind into getting out from its usual patterns.
00:30So for example, you will say, this is my face, that is your hand, the two of us are different.
00:36This looks entirely sound logic. A kwan would very innocently ask, what was your face before
00:43you were born? So that which looks unchallengeable is challenged by the kwan and that too. A lot
00:51of childlike innocence. A very famous kwan is, does a dog have Buddha nature? Does a dog
00:59have Buddha nature? And the answer to that is silence. So repeatedly you find that the student
01:07asked such a question and the reply resulted in sudden enlightenment for the disciple. That
01:13there was something that was clouding, cluttering the mind since long. And in one deft stroke,
01:21the master was able to cut the clutter, cut the cord of illusion.
01:27We are starting this new series, wisdom from the world, which will allow us to look at wisdom
01:50literature from all parts of the world and all times, irrespective of their place of origin,
02:04culture or history or identity.
02:09society. So, we'll be able to take up Zen quans. We'll be able to take up, uh, Sufi mysticism,
02:37Christian mysticism, and, uh, closer to our times, existential stories, plays that will help us widen
03:01our perspective. So we'll start with, uh, quans today. Quans originate, uh, in China.
03:20China. So, uh, Buddhistism reaches China from India and emphasizes on direct meditative observation
03:46China. And that Dhyan becomes Chan in Chinese. And that was also after its interaction with the
04:03the, uh, revealing tradition of Taoism there. And from, uh, China, this Chan travels to Japan,
04:20becomes Zen, and becomes Zen. So, so there is Buddhism in India, Buddhism travels to China, becomes Chan,
04:37and then travels to Japan, becomes Zen. And in, uh, Zen, there is, uh, a particular Rinzai school,
04:55named after a teacher Rinzai. And, uh, this Rinzai was a very peculiar teacher actually.
05:04And quans are attributed, uh, to him. The beginning of the quans dream. Though, in time, many
05:19big names got associated with it. So Rinzai was known
05:25known for shocking his students out of their, uh, egoistic slumber.
05:37And quans are a form of, uh, spiritual innovation.
05:42So what Rinzai innovated was a method of shock. His method of shock would go to the extent of,
05:57uh, shouting at his disciples, or even beating them up. So, quans are the verbal counterpart
06:09of the shock methods of the shock methods of Rinzai. They shock the mind
06:22into getting out from its, uh, usual patterns.
06:30Hm? The mind is a flow.
06:33So, quans are meant to challenge the very fundamentals. The very fundamentals.
06:44Right?
06:47So, for example, you will say,
06:52this is my face.
06:53This is my face. That is your hand.
07:01Hm? Stay away.
07:05This is my face. That is your hand. The two of us are different.
07:12And, and this looks entirely sound logic. My face, your hand.
07:17A kwan would, uh, very,
07:30innocently ask, what was your face before you were born?
07:37What was your face before you were born?
07:39Um, so that which looks unchallengeable is challenged by the kwan and that too.
07:51With a lot of insouciance.
07:55Hm? A lot of, uh,
08:01childlike innocence.
08:05Hm? What was your face before you were born? Please tell me.
08:08And then, the kwan would proceed to say, what was your parents face before you were born?
08:22And here you feel like rushing to say, well, my parents had a particular face and I have seen
08:29that face in pics and that existed even before I was born.
08:33So, the kwan would want you to think about it.
08:40Getting it?
08:43So,
08:47that to which Vedanta comes
08:52in a philosophical way, analytical way,
08:55koans come in a poetic way and abrupt way.
09:07After a long line
09:12of refined logic, very refined logic,
09:15for example, the Upanishads will say,
09:23Ekam eva advitiyam.
09:28The second
09:30really does not exist.
09:31the kwan would simply ask, what is the sound of one hand clapping?
09:40The sound of one hand clapping?
09:47Yatra yatra mano yati tatra tatra samadhyaya.
09:51That's the highest thing.
09:53That wherever you are,
09:58that's where the truth is.
10:01And how would the kwan put it?
10:05The disciple asked the master,
10:07what is the Buddha?
10:09And the master said, the ground under your feet.
10:16The ground under your feet.
10:18A very famous kwan is,
10:29does a dog have Buddha nature?
10:34Does a dog have Buddha nature?
10:37And the answer to that is silence.
10:40But the master does not remain silent.
10:42He says, Mu.
10:44Mu.
10:46And what does Mu imply?
10:48That the
10:52depth of the answer is far beyond the scope of your little question.
10:59Your question cannot accommodate the answer and that is Mu.
11:03There is no way,
11:05an answer can be given
11:09within the narrow paradigm you are asking the question.
11:13That is Mu.
11:14Mu is a sound for silence, Mu.
11:26The K and Upanishad,
11:32they put it more philosophically.
11:36They would say, when the teacher is asked,
11:43what is the truth?
11:44How to reach it?
11:44This is the most beautiful part of Kyanupanishad.
11:49The teacher says,
11:51Na tatra chakshur gacchhate,
11:54na vaag gacchhate,
11:55na manah.
11:57The eyes do not go to there,
12:00the ears don't,
12:03nor does the mind.
12:05So, there is no way that can be reached or touched or described.
12:13That implying the truth.
12:14And in Zen, in koans, the answer is a very brief Mu.
12:26And because it is very brief, it stuns, it shocks.
12:29It leaves you speechless.
12:40So, repeatedly you find
12:44the mention
12:47that the student asks such a question to the master and the master replies.
12:52And that reply is a koan.
12:56And the reply resulted in sudden enlightenment for the disciple.
13:02Sudden enlightenment.
13:04What does sudden enlightenment mean?
13:06That there was something
13:10that was clouding,
13:13cluttering the mind since long.
13:17And the disciple was unable to get rid of it.
13:22And in one deft stroke, like a genius,
13:27the master was able to cut the clutter.
13:33Cut the cord of illusion.
13:39Cut the relationship between the ego and its object, the ego and its belief.
13:49That's the koan.
13:49What Vedanta does through a lot of persuasive argument.
14:03Koan does through an abrupt shock.
14:09It shocks you out of your illusion.
14:19It leaves you
14:22suffocated.
14:24You, you are left
14:28crying for, craving for
14:31an answer to a question
14:38that defies logic.
14:44In the process, you see
14:46that what you call
14:48as obvious facts
14:50thoughts and then proceed to live on them
14:56are just mere beliefs.
14:59And that's the very
15:03problematic
15:05limit of logic.
15:08All logic is based on
15:11prepositions and prepositions
15:13are often just assumptions.
15:18Often just assumptions.
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