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What Is Zen? The Answer Will Surprise You || Acharya Prashant (2025)
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Quants are meant to challenge the very fundamentals, the very fundamentals.
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There is a particular Rinzai school named after a teacher, Rinzai, and this Rinzai was a very
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peculiar teacher actually, and quants are attributed to him. So what Rinzai innovated
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was a method of shock. They shocked the mind into getting out from its usual patterns.
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So for example, you will say, this is my face, that is your hand, the two of us are different.
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This looks entirely sound logic. A kwan would very innocently ask, what was your face before
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you were born? So that which looks unchallengeable is challenged by the kwan and that too. A lot
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of childlike innocence. A very famous kwan is, does a dog have Buddha nature? Does a dog
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have Buddha nature? And the answer to that is silence. So repeatedly you find that the student
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asked such a question and the reply resulted in sudden enlightenment for the disciple. That
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there was something that was clouding, cluttering the mind since long. And in one deft stroke,
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the master was able to cut the clutter, cut the cord of illusion.
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We are starting this new series, wisdom from the world, which will allow us to look at wisdom
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literature from all parts of the world and all times, irrespective of their place of origin,
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culture or history or identity.
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society. So, we'll be able to take up Zen quans. We'll be able to take up, uh, Sufi mysticism,
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Christian mysticism, and, uh, closer to our times, existential stories, plays that will help us widen
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our perspective. So we'll start with, uh, quans today. Quans originate, uh, in China.
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China. So, uh, Buddhistism reaches China from India and emphasizes on direct meditative observation
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China. And that Dhyan becomes Chan in Chinese. And that was also after its interaction with the
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the, uh, revealing tradition of Taoism there. And from, uh, China, this Chan travels to Japan,
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becomes Zen, and becomes Zen. So, so there is Buddhism in India, Buddhism travels to China, becomes Chan,
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and then travels to Japan, becomes Zen. And in, uh, Zen, there is, uh, a particular Rinzai school,
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named after a teacher Rinzai. And, uh, this Rinzai was a very peculiar teacher actually.
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And quans are attributed, uh, to him. The beginning of the quans dream. Though, in time, many
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big names got associated with it. So Rinzai was known
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known for shocking his students out of their, uh, egoistic slumber.
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And quans are a form of, uh, spiritual innovation.
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So what Rinzai innovated was a method of shock. His method of shock would go to the extent of,
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uh, shouting at his disciples, or even beating them up. So, quans are the verbal counterpart
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of the shock methods of the shock methods of Rinzai. They shock the mind
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into getting out from its, uh, usual patterns.
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Hm? The mind is a flow.
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So, quans are meant to challenge the very fundamentals. The very fundamentals.
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Right?
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So, for example, you will say,
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this is my face.
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This is my face. That is your hand.
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Hm? Stay away.
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This is my face. That is your hand. The two of us are different.
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And, and this looks entirely sound logic. My face, your hand.
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A kwan would, uh, very,
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innocently ask, what was your face before you were born?
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What was your face before you were born?
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Um, so that which looks unchallengeable is challenged by the kwan and that too.
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With a lot of insouciance.
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Hm? A lot of, uh,
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childlike innocence.
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Hm? What was your face before you were born? Please tell me.
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And then, the kwan would proceed to say, what was your parents face before you were born?
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And here you feel like rushing to say, well, my parents had a particular face and I have seen
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that face in pics and that existed even before I was born.
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So, the kwan would want you to think about it.
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Getting it?
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So,
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that to which Vedanta comes
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in a philosophical way, analytical way,
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koans come in a poetic way and abrupt way.
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After a long line
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of refined logic, very refined logic,
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for example, the Upanishads will say,
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Ekam eva advitiyam.
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The second
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really does not exist.
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the kwan would simply ask, what is the sound of one hand clapping?
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The sound of one hand clapping?
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Yatra yatra mano yati tatra tatra samadhyaya.
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That's the highest thing.
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That wherever you are,
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that's where the truth is.
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And how would the kwan put it?
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The disciple asked the master,
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what is the Buddha?
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And the master said, the ground under your feet.
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The ground under your feet.
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A very famous kwan is,
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does a dog have Buddha nature?
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Does a dog have Buddha nature?
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And the answer to that is silence.
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But the master does not remain silent.
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He says, Mu.
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Mu.
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And what does Mu imply?
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That the
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depth of the answer is far beyond the scope of your little question.
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Your question cannot accommodate the answer and that is Mu.
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There is no way,
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an answer can be given
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within the narrow paradigm you are asking the question.
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That is Mu.
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Mu is a sound for silence, Mu.
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The K and Upanishad,
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they put it more philosophically.
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They would say, when the teacher is asked,
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what is the truth?
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How to reach it?
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This is the most beautiful part of Kyanupanishad.
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The teacher says,
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Na tatra chakshur gacchhate,
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na vaag gacchhate,
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na manah.
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The eyes do not go to there,
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the ears don't,
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nor does the mind.
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So, there is no way that can be reached or touched or described.
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That implying the truth.
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And in Zen, in koans, the answer is a very brief Mu.
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And because it is very brief, it stuns, it shocks.
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It leaves you speechless.
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So, repeatedly you find
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the mention
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that the student asks such a question to the master and the master replies.
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And that reply is a koan.
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And the reply resulted in sudden enlightenment for the disciple.
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Sudden enlightenment.
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What does sudden enlightenment mean?
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That there was something
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that was clouding,
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cluttering the mind since long.
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And the disciple was unable to get rid of it.
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And in one deft stroke, like a genius,
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the master was able to cut the clutter.
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Cut the cord of illusion.
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Cut the relationship between the ego and its object, the ego and its belief.
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That's the koan.
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What Vedanta does through a lot of persuasive argument.
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Koan does through an abrupt shock.
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It shocks you out of your illusion.
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It leaves you
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suffocated.
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You, you are left
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crying for, craving for
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an answer to a question
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that defies logic.
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In the process, you see
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that what you call
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as obvious facts
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thoughts and then proceed to live on them
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are just mere beliefs.
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And that's the very
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problematic
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limit of logic.
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All logic is based on
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prepositions and prepositions
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are often just assumptions.
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Often just assumptions.
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