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00:00um one of the things that really comes to mind even in one spiritual progress right where we

00:08see i'm trying to relate it to a youth of today where um one of the we we see sort of two things

00:14that come hand in hand here um at least in my perspective there's one where we we have we are

00:20heavy on mental health these days right the importance of taking care of oneself whether

00:25that be in a um emotional well-being whether that be in a spiritual sense um and on the other side

00:33there's ambition youthfulness i mean means ambition in itself the amount of energy but at the same time

00:40there's go get it start your own business you know start this own you know this new idea take it and

00:46launch it put all your mind heart into it when you're a sad like when you're a seeker how does

00:52one balance detachment vedagya and ambition no you must be detached to nonsense and you must be

01:02greatly ambitious towards that which matters simple

01:07so in terms so you know you cannot have detachment from a thing without firstly seeing its uselessness

01:18its its futility otherwise your detachment would just be an exercise in in internal suppression

01:26i do not yet know that that this is not only useless but actually harmful i do not know

01:34huh but i want to be detached i want to renounce it how will i do that i'll do that by by by by

01:44putting a heavy load on my heart and my heart will be evening all the time

01:51i'll become a thief unto myself

01:55maybe i'll i'll consume this thing in my dreams then

02:01no so detachment and right ambition are just two names for deep insight

02:14and clear realization now i realize that the next thing in this mug is life giving i'll i'll have it at

02:24any cost now this is ambition the spiritual mind is a deeply ambitious mind it's just that the desire

02:32is for the real thing the the saints were far more ambitious than the ceos and the unicorns of

02:44today they said we want nothing short of the ultimate just a billion dollar market cap tag won't satisfy us that's too small a thing

03:01we are shooting at something way higher than that

03:08so that requires insight that first of all requires that you know what is valuable and worthy in life

03:17what is worth obtaining in the first place

03:21similarly renunciation requires that you clearly know that a certain thing is toxic

03:30for you

03:31and that's the moment when you just drop it you can't help dropping it

03:37even if you want to tell yourself to continue holding it

03:41it won't happen

03:43you you you you you you are asleep

03:49and a snake is crawling over your body

03:52and you do nothing

03:55the moment you wake up

03:57you can't help putting the snake aside

04:01or can you

04:03your hand has been benumbed

04:10in some way

04:13using some drug let's say

04:15so you cannot feel anything

04:18and there is hot burning coal

04:21in your palm

04:23slowly the sensation is now returning to your hand

04:28you can't help throwing the coal away

04:35that's renunciation

04:39are you getting it

04:40to be ambitious is to is to realize true beauty in a way that it overpowers you

04:49to be ambitious is to surrender to the truly lovely beautiful thing

04:56and say now what else is there to life than to pursue that one thing

05:04nothing but that one thing and that spirituality

05:08to pursue nothing but that one

05:12which is not really a thing

05:15right

05:16so ambition and surrender in a sense are very

05:20they are exactly the same thing exactly the same thing to be ambitious and to be surrendered

05:25are two sides of the same coin

05:27right

05:28as a follow-up to that especially right

05:31where we're talking about surrender

05:33um

05:34and we're talking about ambition being very similar in that

05:37i'd love to understand even your

05:39and even in your own life journey

05:41even in your own spiritual journey

05:43what was the

05:45what was the biggest surrendering that you had to take

05:48what was the biggest decision that you had to take

05:50where all marbles in i'm going in

05:53um

05:54what was that for you

05:58see again this

06:00in some ways akin to the first question

06:03but

06:04uh

06:05i'll be able to point out a few things

06:07first of all the the surrendering is continuous

06:10it is not as if one makes a decision to give up something at one point in time

06:17and that's it

06:18that's your redemption or enlightenment

06:21it does not happen that way

06:22one has to continue

06:24uh

06:25giving up or rejecting

06:27uh

06:28the false

06:29at all times

06:30huh

06:31every two months let's say

06:32just to make it sound more practical

06:33uh

06:34when

06:35if i go back to my college days

06:49well

06:51maybe ninety percent of my batch is settled abroad

06:54and

06:56it

06:57was

06:58uh

06:59just a few years back

07:01from today

07:04that i got my passport made

07:06so

07:08if i go back to ninety nine

07:11when i passed out of iit

07:14that was one thing that

07:17uh

07:18everybody was into

07:20writing the GRE

07:22or

07:23taking up a job

07:25uh

07:26involving overseas posting

07:28and

07:29uh

07:31i don't think it mattered much

07:34you see

07:35real surrender involves giving up something that you know

07:39anyway to be valueless

07:41so

07:42no surrender then can be

07:44really big

07:46hmm

07:47you are anyway giving up something small

07:49so how can the surrender be called something big

07:51so

07:52so i knew it didn't mean much and

07:56it was

07:57uh

07:58twelve years after passing out from IIM

08:00that i got my passport made

08:02and that too for reasons relating to the mission

08:05i had to

08:06uh

08:07visit europe

08:08for

08:09uh

08:10lecture tour

08:12so there was one thing

08:15then

08:17then there was the

08:18lure of

08:19the civil services

08:21and

08:23uh

08:24the

08:25lalbatti

08:26the

08:28the

08:29the

08:30the government bungalow

08:32the prestige

08:33the power that comes with it

08:35and all those things

08:37and

08:39uh

08:40yeah so

08:42that was given up

08:44again not a very big thing not something that involved a lot of pain

08:48yes it involved a lot of examination definitely

08:53i didn't want to rush into resigning

08:57so

08:58i took a good two

09:01two

09:02two more than two years

09:04and a sabbatical

09:06before i finally put in my papers

09:08um

09:10but when i did

09:13it was nothing very significant

09:16it's not as if i remember that day

09:18or

09:20uh

09:21i become

09:22nostalgic and reminisce

09:24nothing

09:25then the day when i quit my corporate job

09:30for good

09:33that is

09:34knowing fully well that i'm not going to return

09:36and

09:37uh

09:38went into my own

09:41little

09:42apology of an office

09:45hmm

09:48it was actually a residential

09:51place

09:52huh

09:53an apartment

09:55a room of which i turned into my little office and started from there

10:02then there were moments when

10:05as an

10:06as an entrepreneur

10:08i would struggle

10:12and somebody would come and say you know

10:14you could have had

10:15uh

10:16so much power today

10:18you would have been a bureaucrat of eight years standing

10:23and

10:24uh

10:25see for every small thing

10:27you are still struggling today

10:29why did you have to choose this

10:31so

10:33hmm

10:34yeah

10:36and

10:38what else

10:40see i have to remember

10:41because it's not something that

10:43uh

10:44actively speaks to me

10:46it's not something that i am

10:47uh

10:48particularly

10:50missing

10:51out on

10:52right

10:53i think

10:54i mean if i were to

10:55interject that

10:56i think it also has to do with the fact

10:58of what you were saying

10:59or you kind of touched on where

11:01for

11:02surrendering

11:03when it becomes sort of natural

11:04it is natural

11:06it's like in nature

11:07you

11:08you become

11:09you become choiceless you see

11:10it seems like the only right thing to do

11:12so

11:13so

11:14then it's not really a big deal

11:15or a massive challenge

11:18hmm

11:19you could talk of

11:21you could talk of a happy married

11:24householder's life

11:27hmm

11:28and

11:29there are youngsters who come to me

11:31and the moment

11:35in the conversation

11:36the possibility

11:38of

11:40not marrying

11:42opens up

11:44i i often see the fear on their faces

11:47you could say that's something i have surrendered

11:53you could say that's something i have surrendered

11:55the prospects of

11:59being a

12:01householder

12:03having a

12:05lovely

12:06loyal

12:07surrendered

12:08sexy wife

12:10and

12:11cute kids

12:12and all that

12:14that comes along with

12:15the

12:17you know

12:19but

12:20it's hard for me to even

12:22call that as something i have surrendered

12:25you know

12:31there's

12:33there's dirt

12:34on your body

12:36you go and take a bath

12:38you don't say you have surrendered the dirt

12:40you know

12:42you have given up something that was

12:45never anyway

12:47worth carrying on with

12:48you have not entered something

12:53that was

12:55anyway going to prove

12:57a disastrous trap

12:59so how is this renunciation or surrender or tyag

13:03it's not

13:05but

13:07at the same time

13:08when one starts off

13:10there are times

13:12when one starts off

13:14there are times

13:16when one would miss all these things

13:19there are times when there would be

13:22that

13:24inner ache

13:26but

13:28one has to just let that last

13:30one has to just let those moments pass

13:33those moments pass

13:35those things come

13:37we all are human beings and

13:39we all are subject to

13:41inner and outer

13:43circumstances

13:45so there are times when you

13:47when you even feel like regretting

13:49but those moments

13:51should just be absorbed

13:53and

13:55then

13:56those moments keep

13:58getting less and less frequent

13:59and

14:00that's what

14:01you

14:02know

14:04and

14:06you

14:09know

14:11you

14:13you

14:15you

14:17you

14:19you

14:21you

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