The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 2 Episode 2

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00:00the number one thing that held me back was because I wanted to work out my marriage and so I feel

00:06like now I am ready to own up to things Miranda she was a swinger she was very much involved in

00:13the whole situation but Miranda and Chase her husband during the time denied everything and

00:18tried to make Taylor to look like a villain and so that's why I feel like we all have a hard time

00:23with Miranda I definitely think Miranda sees how well mom talk is doing and now she's just

00:27coming on back even though she hasn't talked to any of us for like two and a half years

00:31it doesn't feel like the intention's pure I don't ever think the intention ever will feel pure I

00:36don't think I have any intention of us all hanging out in group settings every single weekend I I

00:40believe you I trust your intentions thank you I know that's not it's hard conversations to have

00:46I don't think one single part of me wants to hear what Whitney has to say I don't really give a shit

00:51she's not even part of the group mom talk is my chosen family and I've become more protective over

00:55it so ideally I would love for Whitney and Miranda to link up and leave all of us alone

01:01girl can dream I think it's just when it's all put out there and it's like he said she said it's like

01:06okay well who's lying to us like we just don't no one wants to be lied to I think is the problem I

01:10wasn't ready to own anything like the reason I never even brought up the whole like kissing thing

01:15and initially like wanted to deny that is because it's still freaking weird that wasn't something I

01:18wanted to continue doing right this is like awkward to talk about like with the church and like

01:23family and everything like it still was shameful and uncomfortable to bring up

01:28I have like animosity I think with us because I feel like very left by you we were like sisters

01:36I feel like you thought maybe I was leading chase on when I've never liked chase a day in my life and

01:42he knows that and that's why he hates me and is obsessed but I told him about a dream I feel like

01:47Miranda thinks I led chase on while they were still married because I told him that I had like a sex dream

01:52about him and honestly I didn't think anything of it because of what we were doing that seemed so

01:57mild to me like a sex dream what to do I really didn't think a dream was a big deal considering

02:03we're making out with each other and touching each other on the weekends it felt like it just like

02:08opened up a space for him to feel comfortable to say things to you shortly after I told chase about

02:13the sex dream chase came to me at the gym and told me that he had feelings for me and basically that

02:20was him like trying to open a door and I was like I like I'm flattered and I appreciate it but I do

02:25not feel the same it just felt very hurtful that like you were telling everyone in our friend group

02:29but you never told me yeah that is my bad I was being a bad friend of like not immediately going

02:34to you and be like this is what your husband said but I knew I would lose you that day it was hard

02:40just because it was also I mean I was like four months postpartum I know and then I was also like

02:45I lost my best friend dude yeah I don't think you think about the fact that I cared

02:58but I cared like it hurt a lot I just never wanted to know because I was so mad yeah and I completely

03:06understand the husband thing because I feel like as a best friend you owe that to your best friend to

03:10tell him no matter what and that's where I went bad and I know that I appreciate that

03:14we were so inexperienced there was no balance there was no discussion so lines were blurred the girls

03:22have this resentment towards her and they all stuck by my back so it's like almost as I should have that

03:28resentment as well however they don't know the extent of the situation I think they forget I was also a

03:34villain in that story there will be a conversation between Miranda and I without everyone I would love

03:40that I just mean her I've always wanted to get past this but um I was in like a very different place

03:47there was so much that I literally did not have it in me to face I'm proud of you both just to be able to

03:55sit in the same room and have this conversation no matter how it goes and how you move forward

04:00I guess I never really considered the fact that Taylor and Miranda were really good friends before

04:05all the fallout happened and I could understand why Miranda would miss that and feel like she's

04:11longing for a place and them kind of longing to be friends again it's been a hell of a couple years

04:17huh yes it's been awful I was telling them I've become a lot more softer than I was like really

04:23I feel like I can see that yeah it's made me soft and I think we're just more empathetic because I

04:28feel I feel like when people are like struggling Whitney for example has like been destroyed

04:31you know on the internet yeah and I felt nothing but like empathy for her because yes you might have

04:37made a lot of your own decisions and piss a lot of people off yeah but I've been in your place and

04:42when you're kicked while you're down freaking sucks and it can make you like go insane I'm trying to make

04:49amends with all of these women what we learn in the church is to open our heart forgive everyone's

04:54being cordial but I can feel I'm not necessarily wanted here right now so it's really nice to have

05:00Taylor sticking up for me I feel like these little steps are being taken I'm really hoping the momentum

05:06and the growth that we're making doesn't stop everyone's like when he freaking hates you Taylor

05:10like whatever but like I just want people to know that I've been there at the fucking bottom

05:16kicked and it sucks well I don't hate you but I appreciate that thank you just wanted everyone in the room

05:23to know that too Taylor's preaching tonight I love it amen get her name tag just kidding

05:32I'm kind of confused because I feel like we still didn't get to the bottom of this swinging scandal

05:38tonight Miranda skirted around the issue a lot I'm throwing a Halloween party next week so I think I

05:43need to expand my guest list Miranda's ex-husband Chase is dating my friend so not only am I going to

05:48invite him I invited Miranda too I think that trust is everything in friendships and if we don't have

05:53trust in mom talk we don't have anything and I think we'll be able to tell who's lying and who's

05:57not if we get them in the same room I'm glad we had a little icebreaker sesh before your party

06:05when is that again next week oh yeah it's gonna be fun

06:10come ye saints and come ye sinners hallelujah

06:19listen I'm the one you've been dreaming of I've got everything you could ever want

06:29try me in and see you out bring you to your knees baby you're gonna believe

06:35suspect is a multi-millionaire but still order the kids meal at every restaurant

07:00this is so me it's so Barbie girl like oh wait these ones are cute too like the denim

07:12no I love the denim hello

07:14I'm super excited for the Halloween party and I really need to find a costume that's actually so

07:25cute I really want that and now I'm divorced I just got my body redone I want to show it off

07:30I'm also dating somebody new right now Cameron is a soccer coach he was raised Mormon and his dad is a

07:37bishop me and him have been together for about four months now he seriously is the best he sees me he

07:43loves me in ways that I didn't think that anyone could love me and I feel confident in myself for the

07:48first time in a really long time I like went total opposite I kind of want to try these we need some

07:58for stagecoach yeah wait Jen going to stagecoach right I don't know how is she doing Taylor was

08:04saying Jen told her that Zach was planning on moving back in their house and working things

08:09out because he's a changed man a changed man I think it just breaks my heart because it's like

08:14I just don't know how much better it can get from that and maybe like he really has changed

08:17but I just feel like he's shown his true character and like I don't I don't know how would you feel

08:22if he went to a magic mic concert being divorced and taking care of two kids would be kind of tough so

08:28I guess you make the decision she had me read their entire thread I'm done with you I'm done with

08:34our marriage I'm done you're disgusting he said I don't love you anymore I don't love you when it's

08:40that bad where like you're telling your spouse you don't love them no it's crazy behavior you're a

08:44bad mom whatever like there's not many success stories of it's better than ever after that low

08:49of a look yeah I think women tend to put up with a lot more in their marriages in the Mormon church

08:54because it is frowned upon to get divorced maybe there's a little bit of that playing in with Jen

08:58and Zach's relationship Jen said it was a trial period oh so it's not they're just going to test out

09:04the waters I guess and see if he's actually changed and then if not I'm like you're going to kick him

09:08on again I'll be the last one standing

09:13got one got one there you go whoa damn oh nice dude you see that one yeah I did

09:38I can see why you guys do this it's relaxing isn't it yeah dude that's why I do it I'm from

09:46Idaho so I like love fly fishing it's like therapy for me oh shit shit with everything that's going on

09:53with Taylor I just wanted to hang out with my friends and just like clear my head and we're just

09:58trying to chill so Dakota what's going on with you and Taylor now yeah things have been like super rough

10:04but like I get why like everything I did like hurt her 10 times more I just screwed up like I freaking

10:10lied I don't know dude I just I just feel for my son I've never been a dad it's like the most important

10:16thing ever to me in my life right now and I feel like I'm like losing that oh freak co-parenting and

10:24living alone like just trying to navigate all this that's been challenging for me I messed up and

10:33I wish I could go back and change that because I love Taylor more than anyone that's where I have

10:38to come in and start showing her I want to make things right I want to fix this and I'm willing to

10:45do whatever it takes but I do feel like Taylor's parents have been there for me even with our situation

10:51right now like Leanne just invited me to a barbecue at her place this weekend if you can come for

10:57dinner that would be great thank you I appreciate you inviting me Jared and I both wanted to sit down

11:02with you and are you good are you gonna be here yeah Jeremy I'll be there you better pussy

11:08hey Zach you just barely moved back yeah like five days ago have you liked being back so far

11:18yeah it's been good we've been doing ketamine therapy together you're kidding me yeah more than

11:24anything I'm just back to support Jen so like the whole Chippendale thing how would you have

11:29operated differently what I did was wrong and like I have to live with the repercussions of that the

11:33rest of my life it's just been a good time for me to like look inside and kind of see what changes

11:40I need to make oh shit sorry Zach give me just a second this is some bullshit I'm dealing with

11:46are you guys still going to church and everything uh I'm not currently going now Jen still wants to

11:52go and I think eventually we will interesting okay so that's that's more from your side yeah it's a

11:57it's a hundred percent me wait whoa that is crazy dude I feel not accepted I also feel honestly

12:02embarrassed we've had like a couple nasty interactions with people at church yeah dude that's

12:08like exactly what I had to go through I get death threats from women all the time yeah I probably

12:12had 50 to 100 DMs saying like you deserve to die like if I saw you in person I'd kill you geez you

12:19know if you have like a good relationship with God and you're trying to figure it out with him I don't

12:22think anything else matters 100 percent yeah I really like all the husbands we have a weird bond

12:28we kind of all are in this similar situation sometimes it's nice to be with them and just like

12:33we've been to each other about like the wives Jen asked me to give Jesse and Demi an apology

12:38probably won't be the funnest conversation but for us to heal in our marriage I think it needs to

12:44happen I'm just hoping to move past this whole situation so how come all the Utah boys are

12:48catching fish and the Idaho boy I already caught dude I had a couple on oh I didn't see it yeah I

12:53caught one and then oh shit the guy's pouring his guts out hasn't caught one fish

12:59you know I can't multitask dude

13:02okay let's do this I've never been up against someone's husband so I know this is a new feeling

13:24this is give me Whitney all day every day but this is different apparently Jen has asked Zach to meet

13:30with me and Demi I definitely feel like they're better off apart but I guess if this is going to

13:35help Jen I'm all for it so I'm curious to see how this goes Jen told me that it was like after a

13:42ketamine session that he's like I want to meet with them so maybe he had like visions of glory

13:48he's like I need to meet with my lord and savior I don't know I just feel

13:53Jesse yeah his lord and savior us we are

13:58I'm nervous going into this conversation with Demi and Jesse they can both be very aggressive

14:08I don't know if they're going to accept my apology but I want to show Jen how much I support her and I

14:14feel like whoever Jen decides to be friends with I want her to feel that support but yeah they spread

14:18a lot of rumors and lies about me for that reason I'm a little bit scared about how this conversation

14:21is going to go

14:22are we ready to do this all right girl power power

14:28how are you good to see you thanks for coming

14:37thanks for having us we were so surprised you chose a coffee shop

14:40I know I know I was like it kind of feels like an interview

14:43you're like what what's what are your good qualities what do you struggle with

14:48we know what you struggle with but just kidding

14:50but thank you guys for coming I mean I feel like there's been some

14:56weird contention and things ever since Vegas I said some super hurtful things to Jen

15:02gambling and then complaining about Chippendales is like I look like the biggest hypocrite in the

15:06world yeah I could have easily just been like hey I'm bummed out but like I get you were having

15:10fun you're being a supportive friend and I didn't and I regret that yeah I'm grateful for what you

15:16guys said honestly like it has been like transformative for our marriage because then like it's helped us

15:22have some of the hardest conversations we've ever had what is going on right now he is doing a full

15:28180 and I was not expecting this at all I just wanted to address with you to me watching it back I was

15:34like damn like she was talking major shit on me you guys major truth not shit just calling out the

15:41behavior that some things like for example you said I gambled my medical school tuition

15:45just so you know that's a blatant lie that came from Jen we were told this Jen told us that the

15:49night before when I was reading the text I don't want to throw Jen into this because I just want to

15:53take accountability well is that true or false that is 100% a blatant lie I would have never just

16:01made that up or like yeah brought that up if I didn't think that that was the truth and that also

16:06goes into what we thought about you because we have been told certain things so that kind of just

16:10played into the mindset we had when it comes to you I think what scares me is when she's like he

16:14has to learn he can't be a narcissist and we're like what like she just uses language that's a little

16:19scary I have never seen anyone take accountability like he has especially having those narcissistic

16:28traits that he carries because a lot of times it's not just environmental it's like passed down

16:33genetically to me I guess I thought those were pretty harsh coming from your partner

16:41I don't feel like that's who I am and that's like not who I want to be

16:46there's always been an element of Jen where I don't fully trust what she's saying I feel like not a lot

16:52of it is sincere genuine and I blamed it on the relationship she's not sure what to say or how to

16:57say it because how Zach will react but now that I'm hearing these things I'm like is she just not

17:01trustworthy as a person does she not like confrontation and she doesn't like to make

17:05people upset so she tells everyone what they want to hear I'm I'm really really confused she's

17:10expressed to me that you guys were so there that night but then no no one in the group has been there

17:17since that's what pisses me off because I have texted her I have texts I can show you I love you

17:21do you need anything she doesn't respond she doesn't respond to us I've tried so for her to say

17:25that is sucks I only have Jen's perspective I don't know what you guys have or haven't done

17:29and obviously I'm going to take like my wife's side because like that's what I'm supposed to do

17:33it sounds like a pattern we've only had Jen's perspective too on you and it seems like it's

17:37not matching up yeah which is concerning things aren't adding up when it comes to Jen it sounds

17:43like she is spinning things in her favor like she's playing both sides and I don't like that

17:47if it turns out that the things that Zach is saying is true then she absolutely needs to be held

17:53accountable for that it sounds like I have some tough conversations I need to have with my own

17:58wife

18:28Hello.

18:33Oh, you look so cute.

18:36Oh, hey, buddy.

18:38Look at his little eyes.

18:39Hey, I want him.

18:41Now we just need Dakota to show up.

18:45Did you know he's coming?

18:46Did I tell you?

18:48I don't care.

18:50Yes, you do care.

18:51Yeah, you do.

18:52Because you would have already been gone if you didn't care.

18:55Ever since Jenna and finding out everything I have,

18:57I feel like I am really struggling.

19:00Dakota and I, we have lack of communication,

19:03and it's affecting our co-parenting.

19:06But it's hard because my parents really want us

19:09to give it our all before we say we quit.

19:12So what are you going to be for Halloween?

19:14Oh, I am Gretchen Wieners.

19:17Oh, for Mean Girls?

19:19Yeah.

19:19Are you a slutty Gretchen, or are you going to be just...

19:24I'm a cat, so I'm pretty covered.

19:26So pretty boring.

19:27Um, so who's all going to the party?

19:32I wish I could go.

19:33So you can befriend Chase and talk to him?

19:35Yeah, I don't know why you like Chase.

19:37They're nice to me.

19:38Why should I be mean to anybody that's not nice?

19:40I like everybody.

19:41Because they treated your daughter like shit.

19:42I don't understand.

19:44My mom's a real estate agent,

19:45and she was Chase and Miranda's realtor

19:47when they were still married,

19:48and for some reason she will always stay in touch with them.

19:51It's just I'm not surprised either

19:53because she's always this way.

19:54Do you care that I talk to Chase or Miranda?

19:56I don't have the capacity to be worrying about that type of shit

20:00when I have my own shit, you know?

20:02My goal is always to be with Taylor,

20:14to have our family together.

20:16And I think the only way to have a lasting relationship

20:18is you have to get really good at forgiving each other

20:22and not go backwards.

20:23I want to, like, truly try to go forward.

20:26Hello?

20:28Who is it?

20:29You know who it is.

20:30Oh, for hell's sakes.

20:31Your favorite friend.

20:33Oh, well, there's the big guy.

20:36Hi.

20:39Hi, Brynn.

20:40Hi.

20:41Taylor.

20:41Hi.

20:43Oh, Everett, don't touch the corn.

20:44Yeah, I guess Everett's going to touch the corn.

20:46Oh, we're doing it down there.

20:48Let me take this.

20:49Oh, I thought it was out here.

20:50Okay.

20:51I'm going to go take these in.

20:51Let me go take something out here.

20:53You want to grab that corn so bad, don't you?

20:56You want to grab the cookies, one of you?

20:58Yeah.

21:03Does anybody want any corn?

21:05I'm good right now.

21:06Thank you, though.

21:13You're just so quiet.

21:14Like, you're just so closed off.

21:16I'm at loss.

21:17Words.

21:17You guys were together and then not together,

21:20and then what's today?

21:21What's today looking like, I guess?

21:23I don't know.

21:24Not.

21:25It's just so exhausting going back and forth,

21:27back and forth, on, off.

21:29It's not good.

21:29We're all tired of it.

21:30Like, really.

21:31It's obvious.

21:32You guys started your relationship

21:33on a foundation of shit.

21:35Yeah.

21:36I agree.

21:36Be honest.

21:37Yeah.

21:37You didn't heal from your divorce.

21:39You had a ton of baggage.

21:40It's hard because you guys have a damn kid now.

21:43Yeah.

21:43I always cry at these things, too.

21:47Actually, it shows you're a good human.

21:52Look, a relationship isn't 50-50.

21:55It's 100% on both ends.

21:58It feels like there's a little bit lacking on one end.

22:01It's going to take me a while to get there.

22:04I hear he slept with another girl.

22:05He admitted it.

22:06I was so sad that I needed space.

22:08He went and hooked up with Jenna.

22:10That very night, I found out and was bawling my eyes out.

22:12During the time when I slept with the girl,

22:14I hung with Taylor three times or two times.

22:17Two nights after that, he goes,

22:19and Taylor, you're pretty much the only girl I'm seeing.

22:21I'm trashed him.

22:22You come over the next night, fuck me,

22:24and then you go and you hang out with another girl,

22:27and then he comes the next night and fucks me again.

22:29I wasn't lying to you about someone else.

22:33Here's the thing.

22:34I'm going to be blunt, freaking honest.

22:36He just told me that you guys had seen each other three times.

22:40I don't know, Taylor.

22:41Before all this.

22:42And then you're sitting there telling me

22:44that he came over and had sex with you?

22:46What does that say about you?

22:49I'm not pointing fingers.

22:52You guys...

22:53That's what I'm saying.

22:54I was trash.

22:57I know.

22:58No, no, no.

22:59I'm sitting there, though.

23:01I guess what I'm hearing is you deserve what you got

23:04because you, like, gave it up so easily.

23:06That's what I hear.

23:07And when you hear your parents say that,

23:09like, why were you expecting to be respected?

23:12It, like, hurts.

23:16It just confirms my insecurities

23:18and my beliefs about myself.

23:19No, I'm saying...

23:21You're not trash.

23:21You're making it?

23:22You're not leaving.

23:22Yes, you did.

23:23No self-respect.

23:25I hate me.

23:26What I'm saying, let me finish.

23:27I knew I was at my lowest.

23:29Let me finish.

23:30I lied.

23:31You guys both had so much baggage.

23:35Because I know.

23:37I know I didn't have self-respect.

23:39It doesn't change that when you lied,

23:41you go hook up with another girl

23:42while you're apologizing.

23:43I know, but you're supposed to give the other person

23:45the benefit of me now.

23:46I just found all of this out, Hunter,

23:48that I was fucked over.

23:50And no one is saying, oh, get over it right now.

23:52Well, stop saying.

23:53No, you can't say it.

23:54It's just saying sacrifice it just for a little bit.

23:57She was asking her to hang out in the day,

23:58and I was only nice.

24:00I was only nice.

24:01This is driving me nuts when she's saying this shit.

24:02That's the biggest lie I've ever seen in my life,

24:05and I'm not going to let you keep saying that lie to me.

24:07Stop saying that lie to me because that is not true.

24:10And when you're asking me to come over at night

24:13all the time,

24:15what is that telling me as a guy?

24:17Why did I have to ask that?

24:19Because I've already told you.

24:21Taylor, you're forgetting that I'm coming

24:23from a very broken place, too.

24:25That matters.

24:25You can't just disregard the shit that I just went through

24:28and where I was at in my life either.

24:30Okay, but you knowing that,

24:32then don't come into my life and pretend

24:33So why did you want to come into my life?

24:35Taylor, give an inch

24:36so he could walk a mile.

24:38Just give fucking two inches of sacrifice

24:41and see what he can do.

24:44Why are you guys all coming at me?

24:47I feel very unheard, judged,

24:51like, let's move on, let's get over it.

24:54And I'm like, in what world

24:56am I supposed to just let this go?

24:59You guys, it takes a season to go anything.

25:02I just think that you need to forgive yourself.

25:04And that's where it all comes down to

25:07because you guys weren't really together to me.

25:10And yes, you shouldn't have slept with him

25:11and that's why we always tell you,

25:13like, that's not the fucking point!

25:17He lied, yes, that is so wrong,

25:19but you weren't together.

25:21So what are you saying right now?

25:22What does that mean?

25:22I'm just saying, like, you continue to go through therapy

25:25and give him some grace.

25:29If you love him, then it's worth trying.

25:32Family is something that I strongly believe in.

25:34That's exactly my whole point.

25:36I have still chose to stick through this

25:39and try to figure this out.

25:41You know it, too, and that's why it drives me nuts

25:43is because you do know how much I care and love you, Taylor.

25:47Dude, I have a child with you.

25:48All I've wanted is a family.

25:50Why do I want to come here and blast this to the world?

25:53Okay, okay.

25:54Who wants to do that?

25:55Stop!

25:55You guys are not going anywhere.

25:57Honestly, I think you guys need to be separated

25:59and stay separated.

26:01You need to work.

26:02Focus on you.

26:03You need to keep going to therapy

26:04and you need to give yourself grace.

26:07You carry so much guilt with your kids and what happened.

26:11Now you have ever.

26:12And he can feel tension in the house

26:14when you guys are together.

26:15100%.

26:15You can tell, and it's just, you need to do what's best for him.

26:18And I'm sorry, it's staying separated right now.

26:23If God really did send him to you,

26:26he will bring him back to you.

26:27It's you and Satan in your own head,

26:30and it's eating you alive.

26:31Put it in God's hands,

26:32because I honestly think it'll blossom after.

26:35I think I was punished for what I did.

26:37Oh my gosh, Taylor.

26:39No, I think it was,

26:40I'm going to let you feel what you did to somebody.

26:43God is not like that.

26:44I didn't cheat on you.

26:45I'm sorry, but God is not like that.

26:47It is betrayal,

26:48but I don't think that we're getting anywhere right now.

26:51I have to work in the morning, so.

26:53So get out.

26:54So, no, not get out,

26:56but let's, if we can say a prayer,

26:59since we didn't pray before we ate.

27:03Dear Gracious Heavenly Father,

27:04we're so grateful for this night.

27:06We're so grateful to have Dakota and Taylor

27:09be able to try to figure things out.

27:15And please bless that they can love one another,

27:18and we're grateful for our family.

27:21Sometimes we don't all get along,

27:23but we're grateful,

27:25and I say this name of Jesus Christ, amen.

27:30As angry and as mad as I am,

27:32shutting the door is just not going to happen right now.

27:35I feel like I still obviously have

27:41lots of feelings towards him.

27:46I do love Dakota.

27:48That's why I'm in so much pain.

27:51I do love Dakota.

27:51The more you trash talk in a bad,

28:05then you select people with a catwalk

28:06on the street,

28:07you getting high off the drama.

28:08Don't make me die till you mama.

28:10It's important for me that Zach makes peace with Jesse and Demi

28:23because I feel like a lot of the resentment they have towards me

28:28is actually because of the resentment they have towards Zach.

28:32Hi, babe.

28:33Hi. How did it go?

28:35Um, that was a little rough.

28:38Oh, no.

28:39You want to come sit right here?

28:41So, they were basically like,

28:44Zach, the reason we have such negative feelings towards you

28:47is every time we're with Jen, all it is is negativity.

28:51All she says is how horrible you are, how narcissistic you are.

28:55You're kidding me right now.

28:57And I clarified, like, a lot of, like, lies and things that had been said about me,

29:00and they're like, well, that's what we had heard.

29:02Like, I haven't really talked to them at all since Vegas.

29:05So, in fact, they've never even reached out to me.

29:07So, they also called you out for that.

29:10So, let me just...

29:10Called me out.

29:11Yes.

29:12It didn't feel like it was like a, hey, how do we squash our beef to then support Jen?

29:17It kind of felt like it was everyone not...

29:21Against Zach?

29:22No, against you, to be honest.

29:24Against me.

29:25It just bums me out, sweetie, because I've made mistakes.

29:29That being said, it's like, I feel like I'm so careful with my friends about the way,

29:34like, because there's negative things that you do.

29:37But I would never tell, like, Colin or Jackson or my best buddies these things,

29:39because I don't want them to have this one-sided opinion.

29:42I don't want to vent to them about my marriage.

29:44All I've done since Vegas is defend you.

29:46On social media.

29:47With my friends.

29:48At the same time, I'm also not defending your actions.

29:52But I have defended you and our relationship more times than you can even count.

29:57And do you know how many people have made me felt, like, delusional for doing that?

30:03And the crap that I've been through for defending you and your actions?

30:07If you don't trust them, then please don't go share all the negativity about our marriage.

30:14I mean, the fact that they're saying that makes me so...

30:18Wait, you're not listening to me.

30:19Let me speak.

30:20You spoke for five minutes.

30:22Hear me out.

30:22Will I admit that there are times I talked negatively about you before Vegas?

30:28Yes.

30:29They said it's continued.

30:30No.

30:31No.

30:32In fact, they haven't been a part of my life after Vegas.

30:34I'm definitely triggered because Zach went there to apologize in the first place,

30:39and now it's turned back on me.

30:41I need to have a conversation with the girls,

30:43because I feel like if they truly valued me as a friend,

30:45they wouldn't be turning my husband against me.

30:48I just want to squash everything and get to the bottom of all of this.

30:53I would be happy to sit down with you and them.

30:57Yeah.

30:57I want to be straightforward about everything,

30:59and I don't want to be playing telephone.

31:00Like, I want everyone in the room.

31:01That's what it felt like, is a lot of he said, she said.

31:03And I'm not playing the he said, she said anymore,

31:05and I think it would be best if we were all in the same room.

31:08So I kind of thought this could be like a centerpiece for food.

31:31That'll be cute.

31:32Are you amped?

31:33I'm nervous.

31:34Look how cute.

31:36Spooky.

31:36That's going to go out front, right?

31:38Yeah.

31:39Oh, they're here.

31:41Hello.

31:42Welcome to our home.

31:44Jordan and I are having a Halloween party,

31:46and we are having Brett and Demi over today.

31:48We had this idea to surprise everyone

31:50with a Chippendales performance starring Brett and Jordan.

31:53I think it's a chance for Zach to show that he's really changed

31:57and to just embrace this and be able to move forward.

32:01I mean, do you think this ends good?

32:02I know you're saying it's a coin flip,

32:03but what's your premonition to that?

32:05I don't know.

32:06They're like, stop yapping.

32:07For his sake, I hope, obviously, that he reacts...

32:10Normally?

32:11...as though he's evolved.

32:12Do you think you're a little bit of a pusser?

32:14I think I'm a therapist.

32:15It's going to be crazy, though, like, getting everyone in one room.

32:18I heard that you're inviting Kate.

32:20Is she bringing Chase?

32:22I think so.

32:23Jesse inviting Chase to the Halloween party is so messy

32:27because everyone has literally hooked up with everyone.

32:29We had Taylor, who was married to her ex-husband.

32:33They swung with Miranda and Chase.

32:36Chase fell in love with Taylor.

32:38But Taylor didn't reciprocate those same feelings for Chase,

32:42so Chase got butt hurt, and he's been bashing her online ever since.

32:46Now, Chase is dating one of Jesse's friends, Kate,

32:49but also Layla and Chase hooked up,

32:52so this is just going to end so bad.

32:55I'm nervous about it.

32:56In a normal world,

32:57I would never put these people together in one room,

33:00but how else are we going to get to the bottom

33:01of Miranda's involvement in the swinging scandal?

33:04Like, if you want to come back into MomTalk,

33:05you have to be willing to tell the truth.

33:08Oh, my gosh, he's here, you guys.

33:12What if he broke out into a dance right now?

33:14How's it going?

33:14Hey, guys, how's it going?

33:15Good.

33:15Jordan.

33:16Jason.

33:16Jason, nice to meet you.

33:17Brett.

33:17Jason, nice to meet you guys.

33:19I think I oiled you up at one moment.

33:20Yeah, there was a little bit of that backstage.

33:22We've flown in an actual host of Chippendales.

33:28He's going to teach them not only a choreographed dance,

33:31but be there with them in the performance.

33:34Brett is going to look so sexy.

33:36We might need to implement this at home.

33:38Can you guys take off your shirts for this?

33:40Yeah, I think we need the shirts off.

33:41Oh, boy.

33:42Just giving a nod.

33:43Just a little bit.

33:45And then, no, no, no.

33:46No, no, no, no.

33:47Yeah, you got to roll it.

33:49Yeah, I like that.

33:50Oh, I don't like that.

33:51Yeah, I can't wait.

33:52You're too sad.

33:52That's not it.

33:54So Jen's going to be the guest of honor.

33:57She'll be right here.

33:58We're going to give Jen the full Chippendales experience,

34:00and it's not the full experience if she doesn't get a lap dance, right?

34:04Time to go.

34:05Roll.

34:06Roll.

34:08Next, you've got to get ready.

34:12I guess I'm going after this, too, then.

34:14That's all right, yeah.

34:15Just let it go.

34:16And then you have to kiss her all again.

34:18That was incredible.

34:24I think that's good.

34:24And then after that, then it can just be, like, freestyle for fun with it, right?

34:28Yeah.

34:29Oh, boy.

34:29I'm kind of nervous.

34:32This is either going to be the best Halloween party ever or the worst.

34:37I think you guys did a great job.

34:38We need a lot more practice.

34:39I mean...

34:40Hi, guys.

34:52Welcome in.

34:52We have our jammies and newborn in this first cubby.

34:55So, you guys look around.

34:57You already see something.

34:57Look at the little bats.

34:59It's so cute.

35:00Oh, my God.

35:01That's adorable.

35:02Tomorrow.

35:05Look at the ghosts.

35:06I like the bats more.

35:07Okay.

35:08With everyone in Mom Talk, it's clear that there's still some drama, animosity.

35:14There's tension right now.

35:15So, you're still thinking it's a boy?

35:17Yes.

35:18I still think it's a girl.

35:19But lucky me, I can't afford being involved in any big drama anymore.

35:23Saved by the baby.

35:25God bless.

35:26Good luck tomorrow.

35:28We'll be praying for you.

35:31See you later.

35:44Oh, they're here.

35:45I am sweating.

35:47It's, like, really not any of our business, but we've been brought into it.

35:49No, that's what I feel like right now.

35:51I'm, like, I'm going to throw up.

35:52Like, I shouldn't be in this conversation.

35:54I know.

35:55Today, Jen and Zach are coming over.

35:57Jen unexpectedly reached out to Demi and I, and I'm wondering if it's about our conversation

36:02with Zach.

36:03I only have Jen's perspective.

36:04I don't know what you guys have or haven't done.

36:06Sounds like a pattern.

36:07We've only had Jen's perspective, too, on you.

36:09Yeah.

36:09And it seems like it's not matching up.

36:11I think all of us left confused and wondering what the truth was.

36:15It's because Jen's telling him one thing and us another.

36:18Between Miranda and Jen, we seem to be dealing with so many lies and mom talk lately, and

36:22that's not a good feeling.

36:24You're going to wait for me?

36:26Sorry.

36:27Not wasting time.

36:28Okay.

36:30Do we wave?

36:31What's the vibe?

36:31This is so comfy.

36:33I hate it.

36:36Hey!

36:38You look all dressy.

36:40It definitely hurt hearing that Jesse and Demi were talking negatively about me to my husband.

36:47It makes me question if they're really on my side and if they really support me as a

36:52friend.

36:53If they have an issue with me, I would like them to confront that.

36:57Where is everyone at now?

36:59I just told Jen the truth.

37:00I told her, yeah, the girls basically said, when you're with them, you're talking bad about

37:05me.

37:05I guess we could just start there.

37:07Do you feel like you've only heard negative from me?

37:09Because I feel like the past six months, all I've talked about is the progress that we've

37:12made.

37:13I mean, I've had moments where I've confided in you because I trust you, but my truth is

37:17our relationship is up and down.

37:19I don't feel like it's correct for you to say that all I've ever said was negative things.

37:26It's interesting to me that Jen is so upset with the involvement of everyone in her marriage

37:32when she was the one that brought everyone into her marriage and into those problems.

37:37We definitely still have like our tough days where like we just aren't on the same page.

37:41He just started questioning me and my character.

37:45It's just so frustrating.

37:46This could be the difference between us either breaking generational trauma or me leaving him.

37:53You are putting all of this out to the world and then you're getting upset when we have

37:57opinions.

37:58Our opinion is being formed by what we're hearing is what we were saying.

38:00I was being told that you gambled money that was being given to you by family, which

38:04apparently is not true, which I would like clarification on that because I would have

38:08never said that if that wasn't told to me.

38:10I mean, maybe you want to clarify.

38:13That I, babe.

38:16Okay.

38:16I mean, we can get into that if that's what you want, but I would appreciate if you would

38:20just tell them the truth.

38:21And that is not the truth.

38:22No, he, he didn't gamble money that his parents sent us.

38:28Had I gambled money behind Jen's back?

38:30Yes.

38:31And had I sports bet behind her back?

38:32But I think I had clarified.

38:34I don't remember telling you.

38:35What the fuck, Jen?

38:37Zach didn't gamble away the money that was given to him for medical school?

38:41That was a big reason why we all were so worried about her and her relationship.

38:45I don't even know what to believe right now.

38:50If you had the right intentions, you wouldn't have then continued to talk bad about my relationship.

38:57Every conversation we have, am I not trust your gut, do what's best for you?

39:02Am I ever like leave his ass?

39:03He's a horrible person.

39:05I'm majority of the time team, figure it out.

39:09Team marriage.

39:10Yes or no?

39:11I know from your guys' perspective, you think you guys have been good friends to Jen

39:14and her reality, she doesn't feel that way.

39:17I didn't feel like anyone was there for me.

39:19There were, I sent you a text that said, I have a feeling that I should check in on you

39:22right now.

39:22I love you.

39:23I hope you're doing okay.

39:24I also sent you a voice memo and said, I love you.

39:26I hope you're doing okay.

39:27And you kind of like ghost us.

39:29No, I disagree because after Vegas.

39:31You can't disagree.

39:32It's a fact.

39:32I checked in on you, Jen.

39:34Jen, I literally, oh my God.

39:36I am going to lose my mind.

39:39I have reached out to her multiple times.

39:41I sent her voice memos, texts.

39:43She would respond to me like four or five days later, just like, thanks, love you.

39:47So to say I wasn't there is a lie.

39:50You chose to remove yourself, but rightfully so, because I confided with you as a friend

39:55that I trusted.

39:56I didn't expect that you were going to then exploit this information.

39:59And then you told the whole group.

40:00And then it was the whole group against me.

40:03How could I turn to you after that?

40:05If you had come to me, because you have, after Italy, you did come to me and I could easily

40:09talk about that, which I'm not going to.

40:11About what?

40:13Just everything that happened in Italy.

40:15What happened in Italy?

40:17Well, just how after Italy, Brett was crying to you and...

40:21No, he wasn't.

40:23He was like, you have nothing to worry about.

40:25Some of the girls and I took a trip to Italy to go to Vanderpump Villa.

40:31And one of the guys specifically, Marciano, was like super flirtatious.

40:35And I felt like I handled it the best that I could.

40:38Truly did nothing wrong.

40:39I genuinely feel like Jen is just grasping at straws.

40:42I feel like she almost like wants me to be in trouble or for there to be an issue with

40:46me and Brett.

40:47And the issue is not there.

40:48She's trying to just hide behind what's going on with her and all of the lies that she's

40:54telling that are coming to light and try to, you know, take the heat off of her.

40:59Jen, I'm not coming at your husband just to come at him.

41:02It's because I've been in a situation like this and I'm trying to be there for you because

41:05I love you.

41:06For so long, I was team Jen against Zach.

41:10And now Jen's showing erratic behavior and starting to lie and showing what kind of friend

41:14she is.

41:14And I don't think that's good for mom talk.

41:17I think there's a lot of things this group needs to deal with.

41:39Okay, here comes mom.

41:40I got this outfit.

41:42Is it supposed to be like a naughty nurse or something?

41:44Yes, it's supposed to be naughty, but like it's, I'm literally, like if I, if I let

41:47go of this, like this whole thing is going to come down.

41:50You have always told me that your fantasy was for me to dress up as a doctor.

41:53So I see what you're going for.

41:55After talking to Jesse and Denise, I don't know where my friendship stands with them and

42:01if I can trust them.

42:02Oh my gosh, this is too good.

42:04But I'm definitely not going to let that stop me from going to the Halloween party.

42:08Hopefully we can just have a good time.

42:12Do you have any others?

42:13Um, this is your Halloween party.

42:16So I'm just going to be there to support.

42:17Wait, we could be JLo and Ben Affleck.

42:20He is your second cousin.

42:22So like, yes, yes.

42:25Okay.

42:26If that's what you want to keep telling people.

42:28I mean, that's what your family told me.

42:30That is not true yet.

42:31Yes, it is true.

42:33Okay.

42:34I think the whole Ben Affleck thing is hilarious.

42:36I feel like if anyone was related to Ben Affleck, that's something they mentioned.

42:39So with Zach, he's just trying to squash it, even though his family did tell me that.

42:46What do you mean you're not related?

42:48Why are you sitting like this is a face-off?

42:50Because it is a face-off.

42:52You're not going to make me feel stupid.

42:53I'm not going to get into this if that's what you were...

42:55Wait a second.

42:55You're not going to make me feel stupid when that's all I've been told from your family.

42:59I had told you for months.

43:01Do you...

43:01But do you truly know if that's true or not?

43:03No, and I never claimed that either, babe.

43:05I told you...

43:06But have you heard that from your family?

43:08Are you going to let me speak or not?

43:09No.

43:09Have you heard that from your family?

43:10Yes or no?

43:11I've heard that as a joke.

43:12As no, not as a joke.

43:13No one's ever claimed to have some relationship with him besides you, babe.

43:17How do you jokingly say that to someone when they're being married into a family?

43:21I have no idea if I am or I'm not related to Ben Affleck.

43:26And that had been like a running joke in my family.

43:29It had never been something serious.

43:30And so when Jen started telling people that, I did tell her, I don't think you should say

43:35that anymore.

43:36I think that's probably going to backfire.

43:38Your grandpa was like, yes, like we have met them before, like a long time ago when he

43:42was little or something.

43:43I had also...

43:45You were there.

43:46I had heard that.

43:47So then don't make me feel crazy.

43:48I'm not making you feel crazy.

43:49I'm just saying you ran with it when I said Jen...

43:52Of course I ran with it.

43:52I'm second cousins with Ben Affleck.

43:54You're not.

43:55Or maybe you are.

43:56I don't know.

43:57We don't know.

43:58I feel like this is Jen's battle.

43:59And I guess I'll just leave that for Jen to share her perspective.

44:05But I'm excited for the Halloween party.

44:07I want to show Jen how much I support her.

44:10Even though I don't fully trust Demi and Jessie, I'm just going to move forward knowing where

44:15everyone stands.

44:16Anyways, back to the Halloween costume.

44:18I think that's what we should be for Halloween.

44:19How are you feeling about tonight?

44:21With like, I mean, with Demi and Jessie?

44:23I'm going to these parties to support you.

44:27And like, this is a group that you want to be associated with.

44:30Therefore, I'm going to be there and be positive.

44:32The conversation with them was tough.

44:35But again, I don't want to continue to do this with them.

44:37I'm trying to leave this up to you.

44:39It's your decision to decide if they're good friends or not.

44:42Do I look like J-Lo?

45:02Nice.

45:04Do you like it?

45:04I like it.

45:06You look so good.

45:07You look like Ben Affleck.

45:09Oh my gosh.

45:10This looks so good.

45:12So tonight's the Halloween party.

45:14I'm really excited to have everyone over to my new home.

45:17Jordan and I decided to dress up as Ben Affleck and J-Lo.

45:21Jen and Zach are probably not going to be too happy about this.

45:24But how was I supposed to know we were going to have a big fight before the party?

45:32I cannot.

45:34You look so hot.

45:36You're so freaked out.

45:39You look so good.

45:42I'm super excited because I'm bringing my boyfriend Cameron tonight.

45:44This is the first time he's going to be around all of MomTalk.

45:47And I'm really excited for him to kind of just get integrated into the group.

45:50Come get a drink.

45:51We have food.

45:51We have soda.

45:52You guys look so good.

45:59Dakota just texted me.

46:00He's almost here.

46:01Are they coming together?

46:02They got a huge fight last night.

46:03No.

46:04So then he called Dakota.

46:07Well, shit, dude.

46:07You know how cute.

46:08Like, I mean, when she's pissed off, dude, she's pissed off.

46:10It's not super enjoyable for me to be around her when she's angry.

46:14Well, don't be around her.

46:15It's a big party.

46:17You guys have a baby together.

46:18You could be at a party together.

46:19Like, come on.

46:20They need to grow the hell up.

46:22You look so hot.

46:32So do you.

46:33Do you know who I am?

46:34Let me see.

46:35Look at me and him together.

46:36Am I an idiot?

46:37J-Lo and Ben Affleck.

46:40You're kidding.

46:40We're going to roast Jen and Zach.

46:42You assholes.

46:48Hello.

46:52This is unreal.

46:53You know Dakota's coming, right?

47:04It's just funny because I, like, I knew he was going to come regardless.

47:08Really?

47:08You did?

47:09There's no way he's not coming.

47:11Well, I'm like, Chase is coming.

47:12I don't know what Jesse was thinking, but she invited Dakota, Miranda, and Chase, her ex-husband.

47:19These are people that I am not getting along with, haven't got along with.

47:22So I feel like this is going to be miserable.

47:24All I see is chaos.

47:26My friend who's dating Chase, she was like, I tried to test him, and I was like, oh, I'm

47:30really nervous.

47:31I don't think we should go.

47:31And he's like, no, we have to go.

47:33Like, he wants to come so bad.

47:34He's such a freak.

47:40I am so glad that I got invited to Jesse's Halloween party.

47:43I just think that it's another opportunity for me to connect with everyone and hopefully

47:48deepen those relationships.

47:49Maybe if I'm lucky, I can get in the good graces of these girls and potentially be back

47:54in long time.

47:58Oh, Jen and Zach are here.

48:00Hell yeah.

48:00Oh, yeah.

48:03Hey, guys.

48:04Wait, I love this, though.

48:05This is hot.

48:06Wait, so we have J-Lo and Ben Affleck and then J-Lo and Abedda?

48:10Yes.

48:10I freaking love it.

48:13Jesse likes to start shit, clearly.

48:16I think that this is another jab at Jen and I's expense, and I'm just not really sure

48:21why she feels the need to do that.

48:26The total!

48:27The total!

48:28The total!

48:29The total!

48:30The total!

48:31The total!

48:32The total!

48:33The total!

48:34The total!

48:35The total!

48:36The total!

48:37The total!

48:38I don't get it.

48:39I had the brilliant idea for Dakota to be the bus that hits Regina George.

48:41I really don't know why Jesse decided to invite all these people because we have all the former

49:05swingers in the same room. It's just going to be a shit show. I have a feeling that it's going to be

49:10bad. Chase is coming in. I have a feeling that stuff is about to go down tonight. Your best friend's

49:24going out. I just came as me. I knew it. I knew it. No, this is iconic. This is so good. Don't look. I know. Don't look. There's a douchebag behind you. How many?

49:54Chase is my ex-husband and Kate is his girlfriend. She's great. I love her. I have a good relationship

50:02with Chase as well, but do I want him here at this party? No.

50:06Who walks up to me? Chase. He comes up and gives me a hug. I thought it was weird.

50:24But Taylor's already pissed at me. So I'm trying to be cordial with everyone tonight and not cause

50:29problems. And so this is the first time where I was like, okay, I'm going to be like super nice.

50:34How's being dad? Dude, the best. The best thing ever. It really is. Seriously, it's the coolest experience

50:40I've ever had in my life. Is anything happening back there? Like, who's fucking a hug? No, they're

50:44fully talking. Who? Chakona Chase? Chakona Chase are fully talking. I don't know what they're saying.

50:48What are they saying? Look at them. No, they're like giggling. They're giggling. They're laughing.

50:51They're laughing. What? I can do. What? I can do. What? What? Dude, I don't know what Taylor thinks,

50:55but at the end of the day, like, I don't get why we fucking hate each other. Did you ask Taylor,

50:58though, if I ever fucked her? Because the answer is no. Yeah, I know. And anything happen

51:02outside of Spin the Bottle? No. I know. Everyone in the world thinks I fucked her. I know. This is

51:06triggering. I know. It's a change of religion. Yeah. Well, I know there are many people, but thank

51:13you. When Taylor first went online, I hadn't told my parents at this point. And again, I'm going to

51:17turn missionary. Married in a temple. So I hadn't told them that I had left the church. Yeah. So for

51:22us, it was like, oh, deny, deny, deny. Yeah. And if I could go back, dude, I'd change that 10 out of 10

51:26times. Right. And I wish that's what I could tell Taylor and her family is like, look, I wasn't trying to

51:30hit it on you. Yeah. But the cheating situation was only you. Chase, he is like pointing and

51:37like talking. Like, I can just tell he's like talking about me. He keeps pointing at me like

51:40it's triggering and I'm livid. Jesse, wait, that's down here to the right. Sorry. Uh-oh.

51:45Because they were pointing at me. Yeah. I would go up too. Was my... What's up? Hi. What are you talking about?

51:52How are you doing? We're talking about everything. Yeah. You're pointing at me, so. Oh, he was saying. Because we're

51:55talking about you. Good things. The whole thing. Yeah. Okay. I'll let Chase say it. Yeah. I was

52:01saying at the end of the day, when people ask me about you and my opinion of you, I say 98% of my

52:06interactions with Taylor are extremely positive. Aspen, your mom, your dad. I fucking love, I love

52:13you guys. But also you bring up the lowest point of my life. So I in return bring up the lowest point

52:18of yours. What was your lowest point? When I don't want you. What was your lowest point? When you

52:21announced that we were swingers to the whole universe. That's your lowest point of your

52:25life? Are you sure? Yeah. Look at her turning her head too. How do you know what she's like

52:31and she's like, yeah. What do you think slower than that? I won't say it for your sake. Well,

52:35don't bring it up and then not say it. I'll do whatever the fuck I want. I know. I'm just

52:39saying. Don't tell me what to do. Maybe we should go stand over there. I actually haven't

52:43gotten a drink yet. Let me, let me explain. I want to hear that too. No, go. Go. I want

52:48to hear that. Hey, I actually want to hear that. Are we, are we doing all truth for truth

52:54right now? Are we doing truth for truth? Did you tell me at the gym you had a sex dream

52:57about me? Yeah. Okay. Say that right there. Hey, they already know that. I've already talked

53:01about that. Had a sex dream. Oh my God. It took two and a half years to bring that up. Anything

53:05else? Anything else? Why did it take two and a half years? It didn't. What did you tell

53:08me at the gym? What did I tell you at the gym? Yeah. What did you tell me at the gym? I said

53:11that I also had a sex dream. No, no. Let's do truth for truth. You know how fucking awkward

53:16this is for me right now. Tell me what you told me at the gym. That's exactly what I told

53:19you. Are you sure? We're not doing truth for truth then. There you go. Look at him. Look

53:23at him. You can tell he's lying. Did you or not? No, I never said that. That whole thing.

53:27Okay, you can just tell he's lying right here. Dude, I do. I feel like you just lied right

53:30there. I'm not lying. Why didn't you tell him? Jordan and Jesse and Jimmy and Brett went upstairs.

53:35What do we? Okay, guys, change. Hurry. How are we feeling? What's...

53:41Absolutely terrified, but just gonna lean into it like you've never seen before. Guys,

53:46I'm like nervously like getting... Why am I nervous? Because there's a lot going on down there.

53:50There's a lot going on. I told you what happened at the gym. I already told you that. You just

53:53said a sex dream. That's not true. Yes, that is true. And I'll tell you what else happened

53:59too. What do you mean listen to a lie? I'm not trying to listen to anything. I can't tell

54:02you. This is the thing. This is for the internet. I'm just saying I'm trying to just let him

54:07talk to you. I'm not a part of this. One, two, five, five. He just started with a sex dream

54:14that was out of nowhere. Taylor, I just found out about that freaking two weeks ago, a month

54:19ago. You never told me that. Oh, you never told him that? That's crazy. No, she left that

54:24out too. That's really opportunistic. Who said are you on, Dakota? I don't care if you believe

54:28whatever. If you're my partner, you have my back and then you discuss it at home. I feel like

54:33so betrayed. If he's saying that, then why should I not? Why would you believe in him?

54:40Dakota, he just wiped your face. Taylor, Taylor, I had a sex dream about you? That just came

54:46out of nowhere to your fucking lying mouth. Your boyfriend's a fucking liar. It's fucking

54:50sick. I don't know what's going on. I've never said that. He just looked you in the fucking eye and

54:57said he didn't have feelings for me. You saw his face change. I'm trying to just fuck you.

55:00Isn't it crazy? Isn't it crazy? Fuck you. You're a liar.

55:09Jesse, the police are here. No.

55:12Just cut to my wife. Take ownership. Take ownership right now.

55:17What the hell's about to happen?

55:24This is our marriage. This isn't a game. I can't do this. Will you please cut the camera?

55:29I don't want to get it twisted. The height of what I was involved in was kissing people.

55:35You did do more than just kiss. Like if you're going to come into MomTalk, be open and honest

55:40because if you're not, I will clear the air. I just want to move on.

55:44No.

55:45Why not?

55:46I don't want to be alone.

55:48I won't be alone.

55:50For now, if I'm going to laugh, I won't let you show off anyway.

55:51I'm going toores pause I Farm to my my wife.

55:51Bye.

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