The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 2 Episode 8

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00:00Hi guys, I'm here with the CMAs.

00:11I got invited to present an award.

00:14Kayla right here.

00:15Kayla, one more time, look right here.

00:17And onto the red carpet, the girl.

00:20I'm like, I'm so sorry, I'm so nervous.

00:21She's like, we are so excited you're here.

00:23I was just in shock.

00:24I'm like, how?

00:24Why?

00:25Of all people, like, Luke Bryan's, like, right next to me.

00:27And it was just insane.

00:28It was the coolest experience.

00:33Taylor, what do you think about a show,

00:35The Secret Lives of Country Music Wives?

00:38I love it.

00:38What could possibly go wrong?

00:42I posted about my CMAs.

00:44Not a single one of my friends from MomTalk

00:46said a single thing about it or commented.

00:49To hear nothing, like, what the fuck?

00:51I just had never seen such silence on a post.

00:55After Friendsgiving, I thought we were good.

00:57But I have noticed claws are always out recently.

01:02I do not think that MomTalk is living up

01:04to the supportive outlet that I thought we all had.

01:08So I feel like I have every right to speak my feelings.

01:12I'm going to defend myself against all of them if I have to.

01:16We have some new MomTalk drama.

01:19It was awkward that every single one of my friends was silent.

01:22I remember seeing her, like, post,

01:24No one was supporting me.

01:25And then they're all responding, being like,

01:27Are you crazy?

01:27Like, we definitely did.

01:28They're posting screenshots.

01:29They're posting, like,

01:30Hey, screenshots.

01:31I mean, it's like this whole thing.

01:33The MomTalk feud has now officially reached

01:36a new level of insanity

01:38because Demi has now gone off the rails.

01:41Demi said,

01:41Macy, please, let's not feed the extremely large ego.

01:45You don't need her, baby.

01:46Contrary to what she tries to make us all believe.

01:48The women are fighting each other

01:50in the comments of a post

01:52that was posted by the official Secret Lives of Mormon Wives

01:55social media page.

01:57MomTalk.

01:57Oh, my God.

01:58Will it survive?

02:01Come ye saints and come ye sinners

02:05Alleluia

02:09Listen up

02:11I'm the one you've been dreaming of

02:15I got everything you could ever want

02:18Try me in your sleep

02:20I'll bring you to your knees

02:22Baby, you're gonna believe

02:24Baby, you're gonna be

02:53Welcome

02:54I feel good. It smells like Christmas.

02:55Yeah, it does smell like Christmas.

02:56Cute.

02:58Welcome.

02:59It smells so good in here.

03:01Do you guys want some hot cocoa?

03:03Yes.

03:04Taylor posting on her story about how none of us supported her on her CMAs post is crazy.

03:09Like, did we not all just have, like, a kumbaya moment at Friendsgiving?

03:13It seems to be a running pattern that wherever Taylor is, chaos follows.

03:18Guys, what the hell?

03:20What the hell?

03:21What's going on?

03:23When I first saw her story, I thought it was a joke.

03:25I thought it was, like, a satire, like, funny thing.

03:28Because I'm like, why wouldn't you, like, message us in the group chat being like,

03:31hey, like, did you not see the post?

03:34Or, like, I don't know. It just felt weird.

03:35This whole situation is very confusing, I feel like, for all of us,

03:38because we were just rallying around Taylor at Friendsgiving,

03:41so I genuinely thought it was a joke.

03:43But at the same time, I was like, mm, after seeing more stories,

03:46I don't think this is a joke.

03:47There was a lot of backlash online of people being like,

03:50you're a fake friend of Taylor.

03:51You don't even support her, blah, blah, blah.

03:52I'm like, I know for a fact I texted her the day of CMAs being like,

03:55hey, I'm so proud of you, love you, you're going to kill it.

03:59So her being upset about us not commenting on her post

04:02is definitely throwing us all through a loop.

04:05I saw her post.

04:06I was literally at a date with Jacob, so I liked it.

04:08And I was like, oh, maybe I'll comment later.

04:09But I forgot.

04:10Yeah.

04:10Like, it had been 23 hours.

04:12I hadn't even seen the post.

04:14And to be honest, I'm like, she doesn't message us back for five days,

04:16so maybe give it five days and not 24 hours.

04:19I know.

04:19Yeah, it's true.

04:20That's what I said to her.

04:21I genuinely did not see the post.

04:22I was out with my family Friday night.

04:24I don't think she's coming to my last few posts.

04:25It's not like I keep tallies of who's commenting and who's not.

04:28I feel like that's weird.

04:29I feel like she makes these posts without thinking a lot of the time.

04:32Like, even with the swinger stuff, she did post things,

04:35and she's like, oh, I didn't think about it before I posted it.

04:37Taylor hides behind her page being mostly satire,

04:40and I think it's bullshit.

04:42You can't say whatever the hell you want, post whatever you want,

04:46and then make a joke that hurts somebody,

04:48and then not expect people to react,

04:50and then not expect consequences.

04:52It's not okay.

04:54At this point, I truly view Taylor as a liability to MomTalk,

04:58and I just think she's a loose cannon.

05:00From going on a live stream and throwing everyone under the bus

05:03for the swinging scandal,

05:04to going on about the CMAs and trying to make everyone look bad,

05:09although I feel like Taylor is kind of viewed as the leader,

05:12to me, I don't think she is qualified in any way,

05:15and honestly, hasn't been throughout the entirety of MomTalk.

05:18She wanted everyone to feel the hurt that she felt,

05:21so now all her minions go out,

05:24and they go, and they comment on all of our shit,

05:25and they're like, you're a terrible friend.

05:27This is why she hasn't been coming around.

05:28You're all bullies.

05:29You don't invite her.

05:30And what are we going to do?

05:33Too much water?

05:34Ew, it tastes like dirt.

05:36It's too healthy.

05:37You're expecting a yummy hot chocolate.

05:39That's not what it is.

05:40Wow, that's disappointing.

05:41And it tastes like tree bark.

05:43But, yeah.

05:45Like, it's so dumb.

05:46That's the thing is, I feel like it doesn't affect me

05:48because I'm like, I know it's not true.

05:49We're getting thousands of comments and DMs

05:52telling us that we're mean girls and we're bad friends,

05:54and that was frustrating

05:56considering how much energy I have put into Taylor

05:59and our friendship.

06:00I message her multiple times a week.

06:03I try to send her cookies and dinners

06:05and Starbucks and coffee,

06:06and then for her to go on publicly

06:08and blast it to her 4 million followers,

06:11it feels unwarranted and very unfair.

06:13She hyper-fixates on one problem.

06:15She does it with, like, her relationship with Dakota, right?

06:17But, like, in this situation,

06:19she's hyper-fixated on, like,

06:20the social media aspect of it all.

06:22Like, she's not really listening to the other parts,

06:24like, points that you're making,

06:25and it's, like, social media.

06:26Social media, it's like she can't get that out of her brain.

06:28Like, no matter how many times that's said to her,

06:31she doesn't really see it.

06:32That, whatever, whatever you want to call it,

06:34narcissism, a disconnect in the brain,

06:37not fully matured,

06:38there is something going on,

06:40and I'm so sick of the narrative

06:41of everyone else is doing this

06:43when Taylor's ruining her own goddamn life.

06:45Every single problem that's been brought into her life

06:48has been because of her,

06:48and somehow we're all being villainized now,

06:51and she's willing to throw us all under the bus,

06:53and we're supposed to now bow down to the leader

06:55who brought us this opportunity

06:56when we're getting treated like shit

06:58online and public.

06:59I want to hear what she's thinking.

07:01This drama couldn't have come at a worse time

07:03because me and Jessie are hosting a party

07:05with Baby Mama and JT Stiles next week.

07:08In the past, in MomTalk,

07:09it was Sinners vs. Saints.

07:11So that is the theme for the event.

07:12We are inviting MomTalk supporters,

07:14and so I feel like it's really important

07:15for all of us girls to kind of show a united front

07:17and be friendly and cordial to each other.

07:20So I want to sit down with Taylor

07:22and kind of talk some sense into her.

07:24Anyways, I'm going to dump this out.

07:27It was great.

07:28Okay, well thanks for coming over, guys.

07:29I keep getting whiffs of it.

07:30I'm like, oh.

07:37Yeah.

07:39And oranges.

07:44Hello.

07:44Hey, how's it going?

07:47Good, how are you?

07:49Good.

07:49Come on in.

07:50Bob the Builder's here.

07:52Yay.

07:53I've been needing help, so.

07:55Hi, my little dog bug.

07:57Dakota's coming to grab him,

07:58so I'm just waiting on him.

07:59I'm going to pack him up.

08:00Ah!

08:04Okay, let's go.

08:05Hi.

08:06How are you?

08:07Good, how are you?

08:07Mustache.

08:08What's up, pornstache?

08:11Do you like it?

08:11Um, he will not go down,

08:13and he's been fussy,

08:14so it's because he was excited to see us.

08:17Bye, buddy.

08:17I love you.

08:19With all the drama going on with mom talk,

08:21it's been really hard to give Dakota

08:23an answer right now.

08:25On his ultimatum,

08:26I just feel conflicted between walking

08:29and staying in this relationship

08:31where I know we're both toxic together.

08:33He's saying, like,

08:34if you can't give me 100% commitment,

08:36then I have to start moving on with my life

08:38because we've been at this for two years, so.

08:39This decision has been weighing on me.

08:41I'm just trying to, like, think about

08:43whatever and what is best for all of us,

08:46but I don't know how single moms out there do it.

08:49I'm just grateful for my family.

08:51They have been a saving grace.

08:53I need to hear about all your so-called friends.

08:57Yeah.

08:57Come tell me.

08:58It's been a shit show.

09:00Not a single one of my friends said anything

09:01on my CMA post,

09:02which I thought, in my head,

09:04that's a big night for me.

09:06Okay.

09:06And I feel like it's just not normal

09:08for, like, not a single one to say anything.

09:10I feel like this is, like, a cool accomplishment.

09:12Like, I've never done something like this,

09:14and to hear nothing from my friends,

09:16this is our job.

09:17This is what we do.

09:18This is what we love.

09:18It's our passion.

09:19Yes, they did support me in other ways,

09:21like texting me,

09:22hey, good luck at the CMAs.

09:23How's the CMAs?

09:23Like, privately, some of them.

09:26But when it came to, like, publicly,

09:28not a single one said anything.

09:29If my dad didn't see it

09:30or someone that isn't on social media all the time,

09:33that makes sense to me.

09:34But in mom talk,

09:35that's, like, what we're about

09:37is supporting each other privately and publicly.

09:40I didn't, like, handle it

09:41how I probably should have,

09:43but in the moment, I was just frustrated.

09:44I was like, I'll be petty too,

09:45and so I posted it.

09:46Demi was like,

09:47I guess we're supposed to bow down to Taylor.

09:49Like, she's the queen.

09:50Like, we missed one thing.

09:51Like, they were all freaking out

09:53about it and coming at me,

09:54and so I just felt very attacked.

09:55It was like a game of, like,

09:56probably basically me

09:58against all of them, I feel like.

10:00Oh, she's the one that I just seen the most.

10:03Oh, yeah, Demi made herself look like a fool

10:05because she just, like, was bullying me.

10:07She wants to be Queen V.

10:09Demi went as far as calling me a narcissist,

10:13a manipulator, a gaslighter.

10:15I only tell half-truths to people.

10:17I twist things to make them look like

10:18they're one thing but they're another.

10:20I'm calculated.

10:21Anything you can think of,

10:23she pretty much said on the internet,

10:24anyone that bullied me,

10:25she, like, supported it,

10:26and then she kind of, like, fed into it a lot.

10:28This was from IG.

10:30Someone had commented,

10:30Taylor was a bad friend.

10:32She was only super nice

10:33because she was pregnant.

10:35Demi comments, ding, ding, ding.

10:36You can tell by some of the comments

10:38that Demi has written

10:39that she has never cared

10:40about her friendship with Taylor.

10:41Oh, sweetie, honey girl.

10:44The other way around,

10:45she has never been a friend to me

10:47or anyone in the cast.

10:48All of her relationships are transactional.

10:50I don't know why it got to that.

10:53It's like, are you waiting

10:54for a weak moment of mine

10:56for my downfall?

10:57And I really think that's what it was.

10:58She saw a weak moment.

11:00Everyone's mad at Taylor.

11:01We're taking her down.

11:03Do you think that you deserve to go

11:05and have such an amazing event,

11:08though, at the CMAs?

11:09I don't know.

11:11When we were in first class

11:12and we were eating,

11:13I was, like, wanting to cry.

11:16Really?

11:16Because I was, like,

11:17why am I sitting here?

11:19Like, I don't know.

11:19Why is it becoming reality?

11:23No.

11:24It's, like,

11:25why do I deserve to be here

11:26eating this food on first class?

11:28Like, that's in my head.

11:29But why not?

11:30Why not you?

11:33Because the swinging scandal.

11:36Get over that.

11:37Because you know what?

11:38The entire family,

11:40we don't care about it.

11:41The only person

11:42that hasn't forgiven you

11:44is yourself.

11:45Mm-hmm.

11:45I never want you

11:47to feel, like,

11:48that you are trash.

11:49You're, like,

11:49you're a daughter of God.

11:51To be picked

11:52out of all these other,

11:53like, reality stars,

11:54movie stars.

11:56On the red carpet,

11:56I got tears, like,

11:57in my eyes

11:58because it's like

11:59you've made it, you know?

12:00My phone was blowing up,

12:02like, oh my gosh,

12:03your daughter.

12:04And I'm like,

12:04it's freaking cool.

12:05You should have seen us.

12:06We were having, like,

12:07this freaking...

12:08Super Bowl party.

12:09Super Bowl party.

12:11You ended up

12:12pulling yourself

12:12out of, like,

12:13that darkness.

12:14Mm-hmm.

12:14And I think that's exciting

12:16and that's something

12:16that you should, like,

12:17be proud of.

12:18I felt undeserving

12:20of that moment, actually.

12:22I'm like,

12:22I actually deserve to be here

12:24and treated like this.

12:25Like, it actually really

12:26makes me feel good.

12:26Like, I don't feel good

12:28about myself.

12:28I already feel, like,

12:29trash because it's

12:30swinging scandal.

12:31It's what I'm known for.

12:33But the other girl

12:34is not commenting

12:35on my post.

12:36It made me question

12:37if I deserved it

12:37even more.

12:39It's like,

12:40if that's what you think of me,

12:41then that, like,

12:41confirms, like,

12:42what I think of me,

12:43you know?

12:44There's nothing

12:45in this world

12:46that would ever change

12:48the way that I feel

12:49about you.

12:50With MomTalk,

12:51I look back

12:51at the times

12:52of where it started

12:53and hope for that again.

12:54But right now,

12:56I do feel like

12:56I don't know

12:57who actually is my friend.

12:58And that's what

12:59I need to figure out.

13:00You deserve

13:01all the happiness

13:01in this world.

13:03And you need to feel that.

13:05You know,

13:05you need to feel that love.

13:06Do this.

13:26Curious to hear

13:27her perspective.

13:28I'll move to the back

13:30so that she can sit

13:30in the front

13:31so we can interrogate her.

13:32Oh, no.

13:32Not the interrogation.

13:34Taylor can be erratic.

13:36Sometimes.

13:37And a lot of people

13:38in our group can, actually.

13:39So it's not just her.

13:40But I feel like

13:41me and Makayla

13:42are her closest friends

13:43in MomTalk

13:43and understand her more.

13:45Even though I don't think

13:46Taylor had bad intentions

13:47towards us,

13:48like, this is a situation

13:49that I feel like

13:49I can't be on her side with.

13:51I don't feel like

13:51I'm, like,

13:52all the way on Demi's side

13:53because it's a bit strong.

13:54I feel like I'm still

13:55kind of in the middle,

13:55but I'm like,

13:56Taylor, you're wrong

13:56in this situation.

13:57Hello.

13:58Hello.

13:58Look who it is.

14:00I got a little bit of a mess.

14:01Making an appearance.

14:02Not the kid toy.

14:04I actually like that.

14:04She's like,

14:05it's my anxiety toy

14:06when I get anxious.

14:11Anyways.

14:12Anyway.

14:14Well, I need to get a quesadilla.

14:16I'm so hungry.

14:17I could die.

14:18Can I do a 12-ounce

14:19hot chocolate

14:20with hazelnut?

14:21Make it at two.

14:22Two of us.

14:23You want one?

14:24Well, have a good rest of the day.

14:24Yes, thank you.

14:25You too.

14:26See ya.

14:27So this is good as hell.

14:29This is so good.

14:30Really?

14:30I'm going to try it.

14:31Oh, yeah.

14:31Is that good?

14:32It's like a chocolate shake.

14:33No, it's like a milkshake.

14:35So how is everybody feeling?

14:38I feel fine.

14:40I bet you do.

14:42So I'm sorry that I feel fine.

14:44I would do it again.

14:47Curious why though.

14:48Because that's how I felt.

14:50Everyone saw my story that day

14:52and no one said a thing.

14:54That to me is telling.

14:56The silence was loud.

14:57Any one of you would think

14:58the exact same thing.

14:59I don't care what you guys say.

15:00There's no way that

15:01eight out of eight girls

15:02were not on their phones

15:03for 24 hours

15:03and didn't see it.

15:05I think it's safe to say that.

15:06It's such an isolated event

15:08of just like one post

15:09that people didn't comment on

15:11that one time

15:12and then to publicly go out

15:13and be like,

15:14hey, basically,

15:15no matter how you worded it,

15:17made us look like bad friends.

15:18Yeah.

15:19And then we're getting comments

15:20saying, oh, well,

15:20you guys are mean girls

15:21because you don't support

15:22your friends.

15:22And we're saying,

15:23well, that's not true

15:24because we're texting her.

15:25We're DMing her.

15:25We're going out of our way

15:26to see how she's doing.

15:27So people don't know

15:27like the whole story

15:28that like a lot of,

15:29like a good amount of people

15:31reached out to you.

15:31But then I explained,

15:32I literally was just like,

15:33I think a lot of these girls

15:35are supportive.

15:36I was just taken back

15:38by the fact that

15:38not a single one said a word.

15:40And I thought it was weird.

15:42That's it.

15:42I know, but I think the aspect

15:43that I'm confused about

15:44is does it matter if it's online

15:46or does it matter

15:46if it's in our real life?

15:50Because I'm like,

15:51we've had those conversations.

15:53I think both it matters.

15:54For me, private support

15:55is way more important

15:56than social media support

15:57when it comes to my friendships

15:59and the genuine friendships

16:01that I care about.

16:02I'd much rather have

16:04a close circle of the people

16:05that actually know me

16:06behind the scenes

16:06and have that support.

16:08But I feel like Taylor

16:08is the complete opposite

16:09and I'd rather be going online

16:11and getting it from strangers

16:12on the internet.

16:13Whatever's going on online

16:15doesn't matter

16:15because it's also like

16:16you have to separate the two.

16:18This is still your real life

16:19and your real friendships

16:20that are being hurt as well.

16:22Yeah.

16:22Were you annoyed?

16:23Well, it annoyed me.

16:24It definitely hurt some people.

16:26But it's also telling...

16:27You guys.

16:27Did it hurt you guys?

16:28No, but it's also telling to me

16:30like, oh, damn.

16:31Like, how quick it was

16:33to throw us all under the bus

16:35with no context, no warning.

16:37Okay, so next time

16:38just send you a warning

16:39of what I'm going to post.

16:40Well, not necessarily.

16:41How are you listening

16:43to anything you're saying?

16:45Yeah.

16:45I honestly don't think

16:46you guys thought it was that deep

16:47just like me.

16:48Even if I was like,

16:49yeah, it was petty,

16:50it was funny.

16:51If I saw that it was hurting people,

16:52I would still be like,

16:53you know what?

16:54I am sorry that I did that.

16:55Like, I can still feel empathy

16:57for people that I've hurt.

16:58My CMA post,

16:59I felt my feelings were valid.

17:01That's how I felt.

17:02I was petty and I posted it.

17:03That was my bad.

17:04End of story.

17:06But,

17:06listening to what Mikayla is saying

17:08and hearing that

17:08they were bullied online,

17:10I am sorry that

17:11that is happening.

17:12I know I'm going to see everyone

17:14at the Saints and Sinners party

17:15and before that,

17:16me and Leila are going to New York

17:18for a brand trip.

17:19So maybe I should apologize

17:20for being petty about the post.

17:22Just hone on to your empath side,

17:24you know?

17:24And we're in the wrong

17:26of posting it

17:27and grouping everybody in.

17:29You know?

17:29I know.

17:30I agree that you feel that way.

17:32Okay.

17:33Shut up.

17:34Get out.

17:34Sorry if I didn't say

17:36what you guys wanted to hear.

17:37I want you to actually feel it.

17:39Okay.

17:39And coming from a place

17:40of I do feel bad.

17:42Yeah.

17:42Maybe I just need to go home

17:43and think.

17:44Love you guys.

17:45I know you don't love me,

17:46but it's fine.

17:47No one said that.

17:58Oh, goodness.

18:00Thank you so much.

18:02We're here.

18:03I feel like things

18:05are a little contentious still

18:07and mom talk,

18:08but today I'm forgetting

18:09all that because

18:10Jacob and I are in San Diego

18:11to do a frozen embryo transfer.

18:13I've been on hormones

18:14for a long time,

18:15going through IVF

18:16under the radar.

18:16None of the girls know.

18:17Hi, how are you?

18:18Good to see you again.

18:19I want to avoid those questions

18:20where it's like,

18:21oh, did you transfer?

18:22Are you pregnant?

18:22It's like so many questions

18:23that get overwhelming

18:24when you're going through IVF.

18:25We're like 30 minutes behind.

18:27Okay, left side.

18:28Okay.

18:28Give me a 3, 2, 1, please.

18:293, 2, 1.

18:33Okay, that's not too bad.

18:34It is a very personal journey,

18:36and so we decide

18:37to keep it private.

18:39Oh, I see.

18:40See?

18:40You're going to come with your embryo.

18:41Oh, there it is.

18:46Injecting.

18:49Yeah.

18:50So the dot is the air bubble

18:52that identifies

18:53where the embryo is placed.

18:56The embryo is right in there.

18:58Okay.

18:59Oh, crazy.

19:00Good luck to you both.

19:00Thank you so much.

19:02I have never heard

19:03the church having a stance on IVF,

19:05and if anything,

19:06I think they're happy

19:07because the more babies,

19:08the better.

19:09Mormons have a lot of kids,

19:10so I think it's something

19:11that they would never discourage.

19:13This is the start of

19:14a new life.

19:24Aw.

19:32Just having Carlos

19:33brought so much joy,

19:36and then now thinking

19:37about another one.

19:39Another baby.

19:40It's a lot.

19:43Aw.

19:43You're so excited, baby.

19:45Yeah.

19:51I love you.

19:52I love you.

19:53Thanks for being the best.

19:54Most supportive.

19:55Of course.

19:57I'm not going to lie.

19:58I feel like my life

19:59is going really good right now.

20:01However,

20:02I am worried for this

20:03Saints and Sinners party.

20:04It's coming up,

20:05and it's going to be

20:06the first time

20:07we're all going to be together

20:08since the CMA drama.

20:09When they're mad,

20:11both Demi and Taylor

20:12can fight really dirty,

20:13and I just feel like,

20:14in my soul,

20:16that it's going to be brutal.

20:17But I'm really trying

20:19to focus on

20:20staying stress-free

20:21because this IVF transfer

20:22is what matters

20:22the most to us right now.

20:24I'm excited.

20:26Yes.

20:27Tonight is Macy and Jesse's

20:46Saints and Sinners party,

20:48but today,

20:48me and Taylor are in New York City

20:50to work on a really fun

20:51brand deal.

20:52Hi.

20:53How are you?

20:53And we're going to shoot

20:55a commercial for them

20:56and shoot some

20:57billboard pictures for them

20:58that'll be in Times Square.

20:59I don't care what you heard

21:00about me.

21:01I'm living all my dreams

21:03in the city.

21:05It's super fun.

21:06I'm so happy that

21:06opportunities like this

21:07come from being on Mom Talk.

21:09I'm cashing out

21:10all my dreams in the city.

21:11All right, next look.

21:12How do you think

21:13it's going to go tonight?

21:14Horrible.

21:14It's a blood bath,

21:15for sure.

21:17I'm scared for you,

21:18to be honest.

21:18After hearing what

21:20Macy and Mikaela said,

21:21then I started to feel bad,

21:22so I decided to make

21:23an apology text.

21:26Immediately after

21:30I sent my apology,

21:31Demi sends a chapter book

21:33of how she does not

21:34accept my apology

21:35and goes on to say why.

21:43The group message

21:44ended up in a war zone,

21:45honestly,

21:46because Demi,

21:47she's still going off,

21:48and I'm like,

21:49okay, the girl needs

21:50to let it go.

21:51Like, what do you want me to do?

21:51I think she wants me

22:01to kiss her feet.

22:03Not happening,

22:04so let's move on.

22:06You posted the thing,

22:07but it was one single story,

22:08and it blew up

22:08into something that,

22:09in my opinion,

22:10I don't think

22:10it needed to go to.

22:12I just feel like...

22:13Zoom in on that.

22:14I don't know.

22:16I think there's parts of it

22:19that Demi is valid in,

22:21but the level

22:22that she's taking it to online,

22:23I think that's where I, like,

22:24that's where I draw the line.

22:25Initially,

22:26I was freaking mad at Taylor,

22:27but she apologized

22:28in the group chat,

22:29and I feel like

22:30she does feel bad.

22:31So I'm going to let it go

22:32and kind of move past it.

22:34I would normally

22:34be more loyal to Demi.

22:36I do have a closer relationship

22:37with Demi than Taylor,

22:38but in this situation,

22:39I do feel like Demi

22:40took it too far.

22:41I feel like she was approaching

22:42the level of bullying,

22:43so kind of fucked up

22:45on Demi's part.

22:47Speaking of Demi,

22:48before we came here,

22:49she texted me,

22:51and she asked me

22:51how much I was making

22:52on this brand deal.

22:55And I didn't text her back

22:56because, like,

22:57I just feel like

22:57we all kind of learned

22:59our lesson with Demi

23:00that when it comes to money,

23:01you don't bring it up

23:02because she doesn't

23:03handle money really well.

23:05I definitely do think

23:07that Demi is

23:08a little power-hungry.

23:09I think after seeing

23:10how well this last experience

23:12went for her

23:13and how much love

23:14she got online

23:15and how she was

23:16definitely a fan favorite,

23:18I think it kind of

23:19went to her head.

23:19You think you deserve

23:20the biggest brand deal.

23:21I'm curious to why

23:22you think you deserve it.

23:23It's not a shock

23:24that I was a fan favorite.

23:25Like, I feel like

23:26I'm an asset.

23:27I should fight for more.

23:28She kind of wants

23:29to be the forefront

23:30and center of things,

23:32so I definitely think

23:33she took it to heart

23:34when Taylor was asked

23:35to do the C-Maze

23:35and she wasn't.

23:37But I just think

23:37that we need to celebrate

23:38each other's wins

23:39in this group.

23:40There's going to be

23:40opportunities that

23:41some of us get

23:42that some of us don't get.

23:43And if we harp

23:44and we focus on

23:45every single thing

23:45that we're not getting,

23:47this is just going

23:47to be so toxic

23:48and just not

23:49a healthy environment

23:50to be in.

23:50So I really think

23:51she needs to get

23:51over herself with that.

23:55Demi says,

23:56an atomic bomb

23:57is coming for me.

23:58I cannot.

23:59She's like an atomic bomb.

24:01Yeah, it was like true.

24:01Taylor's so scared.

24:02She's shaking

24:03in her boots right now.

24:04Yeah, sweaty palms.

24:05Sweaty palms.

24:07I feel like, honestly,

24:08not validating what you did,

24:10but like,

24:11I mean,

24:11it's very on brand for you.

24:14Okay, well,

24:14I'll see if you keep

24:15that same energy tonight

24:16when I'm being attacked.

24:17I mean, don't.

24:18What do you mean?

24:20When I'm being attacked.

24:21Oh, I'm going to stand up for you.

24:22I want to hear you say that.

24:23I will.

24:23I am dreading

24:27to come back

24:28to the Saints and Sinners party

24:29because I just know

24:31I'm going to be

24:32in the hot seat.

24:34But I do want to go

24:35support Macy and Jessie in this.

24:37Demi in the group message

24:38said,

24:39you're bringing a BB gun

24:40to an atomic bomb

24:41that's coming for you.

24:42Basically trying to scare me

24:43to not go

24:44or like,

24:45I should be afraid,

24:46but I'm going in there.

24:47I'm not afraid.

24:48And if anything,

24:49that fueled me more.

24:53We are eight days

25:02post-transfer

25:03and we decided

25:04we're going to take

25:05a little pregnancy test.

25:07Scared.

25:09Three,

25:10two,

25:11one.

25:12Wait.

25:14Put it to the camera.

25:15I can't see it.

25:16Okay.

25:17Oh my gosh.

25:28I'm so excited.

25:33I love you so much.

25:35I love you too.

25:38We're so excited.

25:39We're pregnant.

25:41And honestly,

25:41we couldn't be happier

25:42after all the sacrifice,

25:44being on hormones

25:44for months.

25:47And in three weeks,

25:48it should have a heartbeat.

25:49So we're not

25:49out of the woods yet.

25:50It's still scary,

25:51but it's exciting.

25:53It's exciting.

25:54I'm so excited.

25:55Can you believe it?

25:57I'm pregnant.

25:58That's crazy.

25:59Oh my gosh.

26:02I think the hardest

26:03part of this journey,

26:04though,

26:04is going to be keeping

26:05it a secret

26:05from all my nosy

26:06little friends.

26:07I love you.

26:09It's really hard

26:10to keep a secret

26:10because I'm excited.

26:11So I don't know

26:12how I'm going to do it,

26:13especially because

26:13I feel like the group

26:14surprised.

26:15They can read things

26:15pretty well,

26:16but I'm going to have

26:17to hide it a little

26:18bit longer.

26:19This is my cute

26:21little baby mama.

26:31This has been really nice.

26:39Just kind of like

26:40getting away from

26:41all the drama

26:42back home.

26:42Just being able to

26:45just kind of like

26:45just talk us, too.

26:47I know you're close

26:48with Demi and Jesse,

26:49and it's okay

26:50if you also don't agree

26:52with everything they're

26:53doing and you want

26:54to take a step back.

26:55No.

26:55I feel like my issue

26:56is that I let other

26:58people dictate how I

27:00feel about somebody.

27:01So because I was closer

27:02with Demi and Jesse

27:03at one point,

27:03they would tell me

27:05things about what you

27:06were doing or what

27:07Jen was doing,

27:07and I would just take

27:09their side automatically

27:10because they're my

27:10friend.

27:12Demi is a very

27:13passionate person

27:14that goes very hard

27:15at somebody when

27:16they do her wrong

27:18in her eyes,

27:18and she definitely

27:20pushes her narrative

27:22of how she feels

27:23on that person

27:23to everybody.

27:24She's done it to Jen,

27:25now she's doing it

27:25to Taylor.

27:26Looking back,

27:26I got sucked in

27:27to her negative

27:28mindset towards Jen,

27:30and now it seems

27:31like Demi wants us

27:32to choose between

27:33Taylor or her,

27:35which I think

27:35is a load of bullshit,

27:37but I also am terrified

27:38of Demi.

27:39It's stressing me out.

27:40I'm breaking out

27:41because of it right now.

27:56Hi!

27:57Tonight is Saints

28:02and Sinners,

28:03and things with

28:04mom talk right now

28:05have been super heavy.

28:06The whole Taylor

28:07incident kind of felt

28:08like a big slap

28:09in the face.

28:10I will always be

28:11that voice of like,

28:12hey, this is not okay,

28:13and if you're going

28:14to act the way

28:15that you're acting,

28:16you're going to get

28:16called out.

28:17How are you doing?

28:18This has been so much.

28:20Yeah.

28:21Like, more than I

28:23would like to admit.

28:24I'm like embarrassed

28:25to admit how much time

28:26this and energy

28:27this is like,

28:28oh, I'm exhausted.

28:30And I feel like

28:31this has triggered

28:31so much that I like

28:33need to address.

28:34Yeah.

28:35In that moment

28:36of you being so upset

28:37for 22 hours

28:38when we have all

28:39had moments of being

28:40upset with Taylor.

28:41I know.

28:41And we haven't reacted.

28:42I know.

28:43It just was like,

28:44whoa.

28:45This drama that's

28:46going on is crazy.

28:47Taylor sent an apology

28:49text.

28:50Demi got very heated,

28:51and then it just turned

28:52into a whole shit show.

28:53I do think Demi

28:54can take it too far

28:54sometimes.

28:55Like, when I found out

28:57about Demi, like,

28:58threatening a cease and

28:59desist against Jen,

29:00I was, like, shocked.

29:02Apparently Demi is

29:03going out of her way

29:03to get a cease and

29:04desist to try to keep

29:06Jen and other people

29:07from talking about it.

29:08In this instance,

29:09I can see where she's

29:10coming from and why

29:11this is upsetting her so

29:12much, because I know

29:13almost every single

29:14person in MomTalk

29:15did, in fact, reach

29:16out to Taylor.

29:17And it's validating

29:19to have somebody

29:20see my perspective

29:21as to why I've always

29:22felt like Taylor

29:23doesn't know how

29:24to be her friend.

29:25It's so frustrating

29:26to, like, have the

29:27narratives be spun

29:29and things that are

29:29not true.

29:30Like, when the

29:31swinging stuff came out,

29:32I had my stepkids

29:33coming home from school,

29:34having people bully them,

29:35being like, oh,

29:35you're hot, stepmom.

29:36Like, she swings,

29:37like, tell her to call me.

29:38And then look how

29:39it continues to happen.

29:41It continues to happen.

29:42Yeah.

29:42I feel like, again,

29:44I have to walk on

29:44eggshells around you.

29:45Like, that's not a

29:46friendship that I don't

29:48think anyone would want.

29:50Yep.

29:51Watching Taylor's behavior

29:52and seeing it kind of

29:53unfold on a personal

29:55level, I'm understanding

29:56a little bit more as to

29:58why Whitney kept her

29:59distance from her and why

30:00she had such strong

30:01opinions about her.

30:03How are you feeling

30:03about seeing Taylor

30:04tonight?

30:05Not good.

30:06Yeah.

30:07I already know

30:08that I'm in a

30:09triggered state.

30:11This has been the

30:12wildest switch up of all

30:13for me, seeing Whitney's

30:15support.

30:16But I really do think

30:17she is learning and

30:18growing.

30:18Whereas with Taylor,

30:19I think that she thinks

30:20that we're just going to

30:21be like, okay, awesome,

30:22you started this, so

30:23do whatever you want.

30:25And I think we're all

30:25kind of over that.

30:26Like, you are not in a

30:27position of power.

30:28Sit down.

30:29I appreciate you

30:32seeing the full picture

30:32and, like, helping me

30:33through it.

30:34It means a lot.

30:44Um, I value our

30:45friendship right now.

30:47So, I'm going to give

30:48you my group chat that

30:50has me, Demi, Jesse,

30:51Macy, and Mikayla in it.

30:53You want to read it?

30:54Talking behind each

30:55other's backs is kind of

30:56the opposite of what Mom

30:57Talks is supposed to

30:58stand for.

30:59So, I want to show

31:00Taylor the group chat

31:00messages so that she

31:02can see what she's

31:02walking into tonight.

31:04Here it is.

31:06Kind of a lot.

31:07Okay.

31:08But, I don't know.

31:09I don't think I said

31:10anything too harsh, but...

31:12No, thank you.

31:13Sure.

31:13Yeah.

31:19The text thread that

31:20I'm reading is harsh

31:22because I'm pretty much

31:24being called anything

31:25you can think of in

31:26there, how dumb I am.

31:29How, like, does she not

31:30see, like, she's the

31:31problem.

31:32Now we see what

31:33Dakota deals with.

31:34Yeah, it's sad to see.

31:36This is, like, mean

31:37girl behavior.

31:37Like, it's gross behavior.

31:39It was a full-on bully

31:41thread.

31:42And it got worse because

31:43Demi is trying to get

31:44all the girls to go

31:46against Demi.

31:47I don't feel like those

31:49girls even realize Demi's

31:50true colors and especially

31:52Jessie.

31:52She's just a loyal friend to

31:54Demi, but there's more

31:55that I know about Demi that

31:56I could tell Jessie to kind

31:58of just be like, open your

31:59eyes.

32:00And they can do whatever

32:00they want about me, but I

32:01don't sit there and talk

32:03about my friends like that.

32:04They'll never see receipts

32:05like that for me.

32:06No.

32:06So, okay, Demi, you have an

32:09atomic bomb coming for me?

32:11Bring it, because I have one

32:12too.

32:36I want to live here.

32:44Like, it's perfect.

32:45In your outfit, all together.

32:47I know, you too.

32:48We're like the perfect

32:48opposites of each other.

32:50Tonight's the Saints and

32:51Sinners party.

32:52Macy and I are doing it as a

32:54combined business party for

32:55both of our companies.

32:57I have Jay-Z Styles.

32:58It's a hair care brand.

32:59And Macy has Baby Mama,

33:00which is supplements.

33:01And we thought it would be a

33:02really cool way to show that

33:04two women entrepreneurs can

33:05empower each other.

33:06And also involve the

33:07community.

33:08I know it's going to be an

33:09incredible night for our

33:10businesses, but I also know

33:11that there's going to be

33:12drama.

33:13We haven't all been together

33:14in a room since the CMA's

33:16situation, and I'm still very

33:18much upset with Taylor.

33:19So, tensions are going to be

33:20high, and this could be

33:21explosive.

33:22Oh, we need to do that

33:23TikTok.

33:24Okay.

33:31Do you like it?

33:32That's cute.

33:32Yeah, that's great.

33:33Oh, I love it.

33:36Wow.

33:43This is unreal.

33:48How do you think tonight's

33:50going to go?

33:50I just hope Taylor's

33:51accountable.

33:52I hope that she owns her

33:53stuff.

33:53There will be some

33:54accountability, but it won't

33:55be a full accountability, in

33:56my opinion.

33:58You look so cute.

33:59I'm tired.

34:00Yeah, I'm tired, and I'm

34:01tired of trying to hide this

34:02pregnancy.

34:04You can't, you said that way

34:05too loud.

34:06I said it so quiet.

34:06You said that so loud.

34:07I said it so quiet.

34:08No, people can read your

34:09lips right now.

34:09I'm tired.

34:10People can read your lips.

34:11I'm tired, and I'm bloated.

34:13You're spilling the T too soon.

34:14To you.

34:15No.

34:16Don't say anything like...

34:17I'm not.

34:18No, hold on.

34:18Don't say anything.

34:19My boobs are so big.

34:20Jacob, you think this is my

34:22first rodeo?

34:23Looks like it.

34:24Oh, my gosh.

34:29Hey, how are you?

34:31Oh, my gosh.

34:32Look at you guys.

34:36Look at you.

34:38Are you a singer or a

34:39singer?

34:40I can't decide.

34:40I'm both.

34:41You're both.

34:41Hi, nice to meet you.

34:44All right, you guys.

34:45We just wanted...

34:46Oh.

34:47Hello.

34:47Oh, here it goes.

34:49Hi, you guys.

34:50We just wanted to welcome you

34:51to the Saints and Sinners Party

34:53hosted by Jay-Z Styles

34:55and Baby Mama.

34:59Thank you guys so much for coming.

35:01It means the world to us

35:02that you are here

35:03celebrating with us.

35:04We just want you guys

35:05to have fun tonight

35:06and also make sure

35:07you get some good photos

35:08to document the night.

35:09Thank you, guys.

35:10We love you all.

35:15Look who's back.

35:17Look who's back.

35:18La, la, la, la.

35:19Look who's back.

35:20I'm, la, la, la, la.

35:21It's my friend.

35:21Hi.

35:23Oh, wow.

35:23Thank you for coming.

35:26Hi.

35:26How was New York?

35:27It's good.

35:28It's good.

35:29Who do I feel like we're missing?

35:31Besides Taylor, obviously.

35:33Yeah.

35:34Ain't nobody mad but your man's self.

35:36Oh, my God.

35:36You're right, man.

35:37It's gross.

35:38Dakota is with me tonight.

35:40He wanted to come support me

35:41given he knows I'm going to be attacked.

35:45Dakota and I were not officially together,

35:47but he still is nice

35:48and sticks by my side,

35:50so I appreciate the support from him.

35:53What up?

35:55I haven't gotten the clear answer

35:58from the ultimatum,

36:00but the biggest reason why I'm going

36:01to the Saints and Sinners party

36:02is because with all the drama

36:04going on right now,

36:06Taylor is, like, kind of alone,

36:07and so I just want to let her know

36:10that I always have her back.

36:12It is weird because none of the

36:14MomTalk girls commented.

36:16I noticed it,

36:17and I wasn't even trying to notice that.

36:19Sure, they can say, like,

36:20I was busy that day,

36:22and it's like, nah.

36:24You were on your phone.

36:25You sup?

36:26How was New York?

36:27A blur.

36:29I'm running off.

36:30No sleep and no food.

36:31I'm not doing my mind right now.

36:32However, I wanted to come tonight

36:33and support my friends,

36:35unlike some other people.

36:37Let's not lump everyone in again.

36:39That didn't go well the first time.

36:41I'm okay.

36:43No, I'm saying we're not

36:44because everyone got lumped in.

36:45I wouldn't speak for everyone here.

36:47Oh, I know because I've talked to everyone.

36:49Everyone is frustrated.

36:50Well, they've all talked to me as well.

36:52I mean, you went to a whole other level

36:53of all these other girls.

36:56Taylor's here with her 12-foot wings,

36:59and she just has that crazy look in her eye,

37:01and I'm like, she is here to fight.

37:03I am so fed up.

37:04We have a long line of all this shit

37:08that's just building, building, building,

37:10and at this point,

37:11I'm just like, fuck you, Taylor.

37:13Can we go in the back room?

37:15I know who you are behind closed doors.

37:17You are done.

37:19Like, not on my watch, bitch.

37:21You're done.

37:21Do you guys want to go back here

37:31to talk to us a little more?

37:32Yeah, we're ready.

37:35Jessie, come sit with me right here.

37:39I feel like this feels weird.

37:41Why?

37:41It feels like it's all of us,

37:43like in the Taylors, by ourselves.

37:44Well, apparently I am by myself,

37:46according to Demi, so go at it.

37:48Well, I actually want to hear

37:49what you have to say.

37:50I wanted to apologize,

37:52and I'm no longer apologizing to you,

37:55specifically because of the bullying

37:56I've seen online for about a week now

37:59and the extent that you took it to

38:01and whatever reason you have.

38:03I did apologize to everyone else in the text,

38:05whether you thought it was sincere or not.

38:06And remember what else I said?

38:07I sat with what Mikayla said,

38:09because originally I was like,

38:11I'm actually not sorry about this.

38:12And then she was like,

38:13well, maybe you should think about

38:14how it affected all of us

38:15and how the people came at us.

38:17And I was like, okay, you're right.

38:19Wait, why would you not be sorry?

38:20I'm just confused by that.

38:21Because I feel like I was just sharing my feelings

38:24and I didn't think of it big picture,

38:25that you guys were going to get bullied.

38:27You know the platform you have?

38:28In what world would you put that out there

38:30and not expect a response?

38:31When you have a problem?

38:32Well, you guys think I'm dumber than a block,

38:33so maybe that just...

38:35I'm definitely scared that the girls

38:39are going to find out

38:40that I showed Taylor the group chat messages.

38:42Maybe I shouldn't have done it,

38:43but fuck, thanks a lot, Taylor.

38:46Oh, you've never said that?

38:47I didn't say you're dumber than a what?

38:48A block?

38:49I think one of you said it.

38:50A brick?

38:51I guess for me,

38:52where my frustration came from is,

38:54as a friend,

38:55why did you think that was your first

38:57and only move to make

38:58instead of just coming to us?

38:59I feel like the silence was loud on that post

39:01and I felt that it was pettiness.

39:02So why didn't you come to the group

39:03and say, hey, guys,

39:04I noticed this and I'm feeling weird.

39:07What's going on?

39:07Because I knew half is pettiness

39:09and half genuinely probably did not see it,

39:11like you.

39:11But that's an assumption

39:12because that's not true.

39:13Well, I knew people had liked it

39:14and they didn't say anything.

39:15Like, they just...

39:16No one supported it.

39:16If you go to anyone...

39:17Should we go around and say

39:17why we didn't comment

39:18and, like, get to the bottom of this?

39:19I don't care.

39:20You do.

39:20You do care because you posted about it.

39:22You don't care to come to us,

39:23but you care to put it online?

39:24That's communicating very loudly

39:25that you don't give a shit

39:26about the relationship.

39:27We were exhausted.

39:29We were heading into Thanksgiving weekend.

39:30We all were with our families

39:32or on dates or with our kids.

39:34And now you're sitting here saying,

39:35oh, I know for a fact on Bible

39:37that half was pettiness

39:38and half genuinely didn't see it.

39:40That's not fair to say

39:41when that's not true.

39:42It's not the truth, Taylor.

39:43Well, no one would ever come out

39:44and say that.

39:45When I see not a single person

39:48on a big night,

39:49I felt that it was weird.

39:50And I understand you drawing

39:51the conclusion that,

39:52oh, this feels planned.

39:53And pettiness, so I...

39:54You come to...

39:55I reacted fast, poorly.

39:56And that's my bad.

39:57And I was petting.

39:58I put it online

39:59and it affected you guys

40:00all more drastically

40:00than I anticipated.

40:01And that is my bad.

40:02And that is all I can say.

40:03Sorry.

40:03Your darling loves you

40:04and worships you.

40:05You have to realize

40:05the power you hold.

40:08Taylor tends to take

40:09her emotions as facts.

40:10And maybe she liked

40:11being validated

40:12and feeling like the victim

40:13in this situation.

40:14And taking it online

40:15validates her feelings.

40:17So I think that's why

40:17she did what she did.

40:18This is like a pattern

40:20and the betrayal's so deep from you

40:22that I can't believe

40:22you would do something like that

40:24that all I'm seeing

40:25is mini yous.

40:26Come after me.

40:26This is not the issue

40:28you have with me.

40:29This is from...

40:29I don't know from how long ago.

40:31I mean, look at the buildup

40:33to a point of bullying.

40:35I am not a bully

40:35and I'm not a mean person.

40:37So you don't think

40:37you were a bully?

40:38No.

40:39I am sitting here wondering

40:42why Layla hasn't spoken up yet

40:43because she told me

40:44that she was going to have

40:45my back in the situation.

40:47I'll see if you keep

40:48that same energy tonight

40:49when I'm being attacked.

40:50What do you mean?

40:51Being attacked.

40:52Oh, no.

40:52I'm going to stand up for you.

40:53I don't know if she's terrified

40:55of Demi, but...

40:57I think I was defending myself

40:58against your behavior

40:59and it's very weird of you

41:00to sit in your chair right now

41:02and spin this on its head

41:03as though you're the victim.

41:04That is like the most

41:05victim complex thing

41:06I've ever seen in my life.

41:07You're fake.

41:08I'm not fake.

41:09Okay, does anyone here

41:10think I'm fake?

41:11No.

41:12No.

41:12I know that you're fake,

41:13so...

41:14What do you think is fake?

41:15What do you think

41:15is fake about me?

41:17You can't say that

41:18and not back it up.

41:18Say it.

41:21What's fake?

41:22I just feel uncomfortable

41:23saying it to you.

41:24Just say it.

41:25Why are you looking to her

41:26for validation to say it?

41:27Because it's going to her,

41:28like what you've done

41:28behind her back yet again.

41:30What?

41:31What I've done behind her back?

41:33Yes.

41:34Okay, out with it then.

41:35Do you want me to say it?

41:36Oh, absolutely.

41:36Say it.

41:37What?

41:38Okay, she doesn't think

41:39you're good at hair

41:40and she told me

41:40not to go to you for hair

41:41and that's why

41:42I went to a different salon

41:42because she doesn't think

41:43you're good at all

41:44and she said that

41:45she's like stuck

41:45in a thing with you.

41:47Huh?

41:47You don't think

41:48she's good at hair

41:48but like you feel

41:49like obligated to go to her.

41:50She said do not go to her

41:51if she's not good at hair.

41:53No, I didn't at all.

41:54Oh my hell.

41:56I said to go to Jay-Z.

41:57I don't know how

41:58they do with Hillary.

41:59They're great at extensions.

42:00That's your best friend.

42:02I literally had

42:03had my hair done

42:04one time by them.

42:05I didn't know

42:05how they were.

42:07But were you happy

42:08with that one time?

42:09I don't remember.

42:11Do you see

42:11how she can't answer?

42:13Okay.

42:13Should we just have

42:14the resolution

42:15of the petty IG post

42:16and move on from it?

42:18No, because she's fake

42:20and I think she's a bitch.

42:21I really do, really think that.

42:22I don't think it's fair

42:23to like try to turn

42:24like other people

42:25against each other

42:25right now though.

42:26I'm trying to tell her

42:27like how her friends

42:28are staying behind her back.

42:29To hear Miranda

42:30and Whitney

42:31take Demi's side,

42:32I'm in complete shock.

42:34I'm the only one

42:35who stuck out for them

42:36and like you

42:37did me dirty again.

42:40Do you not think

42:40that's betraying?

42:41Oh Taylor, talk to me.

42:42Talk to me

42:42because this is about me.

42:43Look me in the eyes

42:44you narcissist.

42:45Look at me.

42:45I know how Taylor

42:46can be sometimes

42:47especially online

42:48and throwing up

42:49something petty

42:49just for clicks.

42:50But I also see why

42:53it was very upsetting

42:54to some of the other girls

42:55because I don't think

42:57that private things

42:57should be shared

42:58to everyone on the internet.

42:59So.

43:00Okay, do we want to get

43:01into how you are

43:02behind closed doors?

43:03Should we open that door?

43:04Go for it.

43:05Okay.

43:06So should we talk about

43:06the way that you treat

43:07your boyfriend?

43:09Go get help.

43:10Stop hurting people.

43:11Take accountability

43:12for what you're doing.

43:13It's not okay.

43:14Just from my history.

43:15It's every goddamn time

43:16you're with us

43:17you're going through

43:17a hard time.

43:18For health sakes.

43:19This is a you problem.

43:21Let's go ask Dakota.

43:22Go up.

43:23Green.

43:24No, no.

43:26I'm going to protect

43:27your ever

43:29in this situation.

43:32Like thinking back

43:33to Taylor's arrest.

43:34Taylor and Dakota

43:35they're so toxic

43:36in their relationship.

43:37They brought out

43:37this nasty side

43:38in each other.

43:39And given the nature

43:41of their relationship

43:42and what has happened

43:43up until this point

43:44I would never put my child

43:46in that environment.

43:47and you have the audacity

43:49to sit here

43:50and try to ruin

43:50my reputation

43:51we are done.

43:53Let's take it there Taylor.

43:55To me goes to

43:56one of the worst

43:58times of my life.

43:59We've seen the

43:59body cam footage.

44:00It's no secret

44:01that Dakota and I

44:02have struggled

44:02with unhealthy patterns.

44:04I was called

44:04like a child abuser.

44:06The worst mom

44:06in the world.

44:07It's not easy

44:08to hear as a mom

44:09you don't want

44:09to be labeled as that

44:10and it's not true

44:11because I didn't hurt

44:12my daughter

44:13and I don't want

44:14to like justify

44:14or make excuses for it

44:16but I've taken the steps

44:17and the time

44:17to work through

44:18those things

44:19and so for Demi

44:20to still bring that up

44:22to talk about my child

44:23this isn't about

44:24being petty

44:25or bitchy

44:26this could be

44:27life ruining.

44:29I don't think

44:29it's fair

44:30to the initial

44:30argument though

44:31what we're here for.

44:33I feel like

44:33things are getting

44:34really out of hand

44:35and really messy.

44:36I feel like

44:36this is becoming

44:37a really ugly battle

44:38between Demi and Taylor.

44:39I love talking

44:40about hair

44:41but

44:41yeah I think

44:42that it's gotten

44:43a little off topic

44:43I think that

44:44we just need to

44:45come back

44:45to what it was.

44:47I mean where

44:47are you guys

44:47standing?

44:48Well I just

44:48I just have one question.

44:50Yes.

44:50All I want to know

44:51is are you sorry?

44:52To all of you

44:53and how I made you feel

44:54and the people

44:54coming at you

44:55yes I'm sorry

44:55for that part

44:56and that is it.

44:57Okay.

44:58I'm going to go

44:59enjoy that party

45:00that's all I wanted

45:00to know.

45:01Demi and I

45:02are getting closer

45:03so I can see

45:04how aggravating

45:04this is for her.

45:06Taylor

45:06you are on your own.

45:08Goodbye.

45:09Need my wings.

45:11Watch your head.

45:13Can I talk to you?

45:14Me?

45:15Yeah.

45:16Mom talk is supposed

45:17to be sisterhood

45:19and support

45:20and genuine friendships

45:21however I think Demi

45:23has let the money side

45:26and greed

45:26go to her head.

45:28Yes mom talk

45:28is a business

45:29but it's much more

45:30than that.

45:31I'm not scared

45:31of her

45:32but she's a scary girl

45:33if that makes sense

45:34and we all need

45:35to be aware.

45:39And I just want

45:39to say I'm like sorry

45:40and I just

45:41I want you to be

45:42careful with her as well.

45:43Yeah.

45:43This is the second time

45:44she's done you dirty

45:45behind your back.

45:45Yeah I'm aware.

45:46Was that necessary

45:47to even tell you

45:48because like that

45:48that was weighing on me.

45:49So going to that

45:50I'm glad I know.

45:51I am.

45:51I'm hurt obviously

45:52and I'm like embarrassed

45:53because it sucks

45:54but like that is my business

45:55I put out there

45:56and I don't want anyone

45:56thinking I'm bad

45:57especially without context.

45:58your best friend

45:59sending people elsewhere.

46:00Yes and that

46:01that is super hurtful

46:02so yes I'm glad I know

46:03I do feel like

46:04I wouldn't have ever known

46:06probably

46:07and it does make me wonder

46:08other things that were said.

46:09I don't know what to do right now

46:11I feel like I'm kind of in shock

46:11like I just don't know

46:12how to like approach it

46:13but I appreciate you telling me

46:15I am feeling betrayed

46:16and kind of deflated

46:18like I feel like a deflated balloon.

46:20This group as a whole

46:20is really damaged.

46:22It's gotten to a really hostile point

46:23and I don't know

46:24what's going to happen.

46:26I don't know

46:26I just it just feels

46:27like the whole group right now

46:28like I don't know

46:28where we're going to go from here.

46:30It feels.

46:30It's a mess.

46:31It is a mess.

46:37So excited.

46:38New Orleans has always

46:39been on my bucket list.

46:40Is that a pregnancy test?

46:41We're going to play

46:42pregnancy roulette.

46:43I was not planning

46:44on telling the girls

46:45I'm pregnant.

46:48I'm going to cry.

46:49Who is this?

46:50What I said

46:51was not shitting

46:52on your business.

46:53It was strictly what.

46:54To me it's the raw

46:55and the opposite

46:56of what MomTalk is about.

46:58Like shut up.

47:00Did everyone get

47:00the video of Jen?

47:01What?

47:02There are so many

47:03fractures within our group

47:04right now.

47:04Does anyone care about me?

47:07Taylor I really don't see

47:09the need for her

47:09to even stick around.

47:10I'd go to war.

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