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00:00All those responsible
00:30will be brought to justice.
00:33This is the News Track and I'm Maria Shakil.
00:49In fact, the initial investigation by the investigating agencies is now revealing that the suspect
00:56may have panicked and that is the reason why the blast happened.
01:02We'll get you details in just 30 seconds.
01:04But first up, the headlines.
01:07The red flag now narrows in on Dr.
01:13Umar, who detonated the explosive laden I-20 car in a possible panic attack.
01:18Meanwhile, Faridabad terror module's Dr. Shaheen was tasked to establish Jaish-e-Mohammed's
01:26women's wing by Masood Azhar after Operation Sindur.
01:31As the death toll in the Delhi blast now rises to 10, Prime Minister Modi sounds a big warning,
01:42asserts that conspirators won't be spared.
01:46But the opposition questions why the Prime Minister continued with his Bhutan trip despite
01:51the terror attack.
01:52And Islamabad pays the consequences of fomenting terror suicide attack near Islamabad court leaves
02:2012 dead and over 20 injured.
02:28And Bihar replicates its historic voter turnout in Phase 2 as well.
02:34Overall voter percentage of male voters highest in Bihar's electoral history.
02:41Delhi's air quality slips into the severe category for the first time.
02:49The season grabbed reactivated in Delhi NCR.
02:52And top intel sources are telling India today that raids by security agencies across multiple locations
03:16in Delhi NCR and Pulwama actually led to some kind of fear in the mind of the suspect.
03:24Remember, the multiple agency probe had led to significant quantities of explosives being recovered.
03:32And that's when the suspect acted hastily under mounting pressure.
03:37And the explosion was caused by panic and desperation due to raids carried out by the security agencies to nab them.
03:43The bomb was premature and not fully developed, thus limiting the impact.
03:49The explosion did not create a crater and no shrapnel or projectiles were found.
03:54A major attack has been averted.
03:56And that has been because of the alertness of various investigating agencies,
04:03which had ensured a crackdown of the modules, which is now being called as a Faridabad module.
04:12Let me go straight to Sneha, who's joining us live.
04:15Sneha, we have been talking about this aspect of whether the overall reaction
04:22was more of a panic reaction rather than a planned attack or a planned blast.
04:28And now, Shreya, it's becoming clear that it was indeed more of a reaction
04:32which was triggered by the pan, you know, multi-state busting of the terror modules.
04:39Well, one thing is for sure, Maria, since the time we've been reporting this incident,
04:44and yesterday, late last night itself, it got a confirmation that the one individual,
04:49Dr. Umar Mohamad, who was in that car that detonated, carrying out that blaster,
04:54took close to nine lives and several other injuries.
04:59This particular person was already in panic-stricken condition
05:02because raids were being conducted to nab him.
05:05What we also do know that there were multi-police agencies
05:09because the Jammu and Kishmir police and Faridabad police were both actively looking
05:13for Umar Mohamad.
05:15And that is when he leaves Faridabad, that is very clear that early morning itself he's left
05:20because since Saturday, when we see these raids active,
05:26from 5th of November itself, Jammu and Kishmir police was active.
05:29It was on 19th of October, as per the Jammu and Kishmir police,
05:35when there were some leaflets that surfaced that they actually went behind this terror module
05:40and then back-to-back raids were conducted.
05:43So he knew that he couldn't escape.
05:45He was in a panic-stricken condition.
05:47And it is in that condition that that kind of an attack took place.
05:51However, there are some more investigations yet to be done.
05:55Whether that was an accidental detonation or this was exactly what was planned by him,
06:00we will get a larger picture as NIA also begins its investigation
06:04as the investigation will officially be transferred now from Delhi police to them.
06:08But one thing is sure, all sources confirming that Dr. Umar Mohamad,
06:13part of the terror module, the terrorist who was behind the detonation,
06:16he did this detonation in a panic-stricken condition.
06:19Okay.
06:19And he also assembled this IED improperly, is what intelligence sources are telling you?
06:28Yes.
06:29That is what is being suggested.
06:30Now, we are getting multiple information right now, Maria,
06:33because 2,900 kilos of ammonium nitrate is pointing it out
06:38that the plan of this module was probably to build multiple more such devices in the cars
06:45that could have triggered a series of bomb blasts.
06:48These are initial information that is trickling down so far as the investigation
06:52and the interrogation is concerned.
06:54Probably that wasn't already done.
06:58They had just moved the cache of explosives to the Delhi border in Faridabad's Fatehpur Taga
07:06and Dhaoj village in Faridabad.
07:08They couldn't have assembled and created the devices.
07:12This was this one I-20 car, which was already laden with explosives.
07:16In a time when this raid took place, what we are understanding that probably
07:21Umar Mohamed managed to escape what the police is also asserting right now,
07:26whether they had a second hideout, if there's more cashier famination still there.
07:30For all of that, we see the kind of raids that are right now taking place.
07:34Today from Al-Falla University alone, six junior doctors were also questioned
07:38by the Faridabad police and the Delhi police.
07:41So clearly, a lot more things to unravel.
07:44But one thing is for sure, the plan was much larger.
07:47It was contained in a miniature version, irrespective of the fact we have innocent lives
07:52who actually lost to that unfortunate blast that took place at China.
07:56We really appreciate your time.
07:58Remember what began as a sudden explosion near Delhi's Red Fort
08:03has now blown open a network of white-collar terror.
08:07Doctors are under scrutiny as investigators trace the trail back
08:12to Al-Falla University in Faridabad.
08:14Among them is Dr. Mohamed Umar, the alleged bomber who drove the car,
08:19that is the I-20, that exploded near the Red Fort,
08:23along with his associates from Al-Falla's hospital and faculty,
08:27now accused of supplying explosives, radicalizing students
08:30and creating a network that stretched across states.
08:34Was this terror conspiracy hatched on campus?
08:38Let's take a look at this report and then I bring in the guests.
08:44A deadly blast rocked Delhi on Monday,
08:54sending shockwaves across the nation.
08:58At the centre of the probe is Dr. Mohamed Umar,
09:01the alleged suicide bomber who drove the I-20 that exploded near the Red Fort.
09:07Agencies are now linking him to the Faridabad jihadi module,
09:13bringing Al-Falla University under intense scrutiny.
09:19Investigators say Dr. Muzammil, employed at Al-Falla Hospital,
09:24acted as a conduit for explosives.
09:26He reportedly rented a room in Faridabad to store them
09:32and authorities have recovered both explosives and a handwritten note from that room.
09:39Then there is Shaheen Shahid,
09:41from whose car authorities seized assault rifles and ammunition.
09:47Shahid is also accused of attempting to set up the India branch
09:50of Jaish-e-Mohamed's women wing, Jamaat-ul-Mominat.
09:55She is now in custody.
09:58Two others from Al-Falla University,
10:00Dr. Sajjad Ahmed Mala and Maulavi Irfan,
10:04are accused of radicalising medical students.
10:07Both of them have also been detained.
10:10Founded in 2014,
10:12Al-Falla University spans 70 acres,
10:15operates a 650-bed hospital
10:17and is UGC recognised.
10:21Authorities are investigating
10:22whether its labs were misused to manufacture explosives.
10:27Officials suspect
10:28the Delhi blast and the Faridabad recovery
10:31may be part of a larger terror network
10:33operating across states.
10:36As the probe continues,
10:39one thing is clear.
10:40Terror can infiltrate
10:42even the most trusted institutions
10:43and even white-collar professionals
10:47cannot be trusted.
10:48With Munish Pandey,
10:52Arvind Doja and Shreya Chatterjee,
10:54Bureau Report, India Today.
11:00Sanjay Sahai,
11:01former IPS officer,
11:03joins me here on this broadcast.
11:05Sushant Sarin,
11:05strategic affairs expert,
11:07Lieutenant General Rakesh Sharma,
11:09is with us.
11:11Sushant Sarin,
11:12all roads, it seems,
11:14are leading to Al-Falla University.
11:18The question is,
11:19it is an educational institution.
11:20That's where
11:21the radicalisation
11:22of all these doctors happen.
11:25And that's where
11:25the investigation
11:26is now headed,
11:28where the junior doctors
11:29have been questioned
11:30and several
11:31contemporaries
11:32of these doctors
11:33are also under the scanner.
11:36Maria,
11:37I think
11:37that's quite natural.
11:39You know,
11:40you will
11:40question
11:41all the people
11:42who would have
11:43come in contact
11:44with the terrorists.
11:47And you don't know
11:48whether
11:49the university
11:50was responsible
11:51for radicalisation
11:52or these guys
11:53that were using
11:54the university
11:55as a cover
11:55under which to operate.
11:58So I think
11:58let's not jump
12:00to conclusions
12:00because,
12:01you know,
12:01yesterday
12:02somebody who had
12:03bought that I-20 car,
12:04that guy's name
12:05was plastered
12:06all over the place
12:06and it's very unfair
12:07because ultimately
12:09the car was sold
12:09a number of times
12:10and the guy
12:11who finally bought him in.
12:12You know,
12:12so I think
12:13we need to be careful
12:14before,
12:15you know,
12:16pronouncing a verdict
12:17on a university
12:17or a bunch of people
12:19who might have
12:20been in contact
12:21with these guys.
12:22So that is one.
12:23Secondly,
12:24I think
12:24it's very clear
12:25that this was
12:26a very,
12:27very big plot
12:28which has been,
12:29which has been,
12:30of course,
12:32nipped in the bud.
12:34Okay,
12:35this is not
12:35withstanding
12:36the fact
12:36that this guy
12:37went and
12:38he blew up
12:38that car
12:39or it got
12:40blown up.
12:40We don't know
12:41that.
12:42I think that's
12:42again a matter
12:43of speculation
12:44as of now.
12:45We don't know
12:46whether he was
12:46running away
12:47with that material
12:48or they had
12:48managed to
12:49rig up
12:49one particular
12:51car
12:51and,
12:52you know,
12:53he used that
12:54as the getaway car
12:54and then he decided
12:55that he can either
12:56use it or lose it
12:58and he decided
12:58to use it.
12:59But again,
13:00like I said,
13:00this is a matter
13:01of speculation.
13:02What is also
13:03important is that
13:03when people
13:04ask questions,
13:06what was the need
13:07for doing the raid
13:07yesterday when people
13:09were going to go
13:09in for polling
13:10in Bihar?
13:11Number one,
13:12to link it up
13:12with the Bihar
13:13election is
13:14damn stupid
13:16in my mind.
13:17And the reason
13:18that you have to
13:19go after a
13:20particular terror
13:21network is
13:23because you have
13:24probably come
13:25to the conclusion
13:25that you have
13:27sealed up
13:27the entire case
13:29and you've got
13:29all the people
13:30and to not
13:32move in
13:32at that point
13:33in time
13:34would mean
13:35that you allow
13:36this plot
13:36to go through.
13:37So I would
13:38imagine that
13:39the security
13:39forces would
13:40have raided
13:40those places
13:41after due
13:43deliberation
13:43and not because
13:44they were keeping
13:45a certain
13:45political timeline
13:46in mind.
13:47You know,
13:47the same thing
13:48happened.
13:48You remember
13:48when Operation
13:50Mahadev took
13:50place in
13:51Shinagar
13:52against the
13:53people who
13:54have been
13:55responsible for
13:56the Pehlgaam
13:56attacks?
13:57Again,
13:57you know,
13:58the same kind
13:59of conspiracy
13:59theories and
14:00political
14:01imputations
14:02were made.
14:03So I think
14:03people,
14:05you will have
14:05to raid
14:06these guys
14:06when you
14:07think that
14:08the plot
14:09is now
14:10going to
14:10reach the
14:11stage of
14:12implementation
14:12and you
14:13need to
14:14finish it
14:14there and
14:15there.
14:16But I
14:17think a lot
14:17of the
14:17information
14:18will come
14:19as and
14:20when,
14:20you know,
14:20the investigations
14:21are carried
14:22out,
14:23interrogation
14:23is done.
14:24The good
14:25part is,
14:25if there
14:26is a silver
14:26lining,
14:27it is that
14:28you manage
14:28to catch
14:29a bunch
14:29of these
14:30guys alive
14:30and that
14:32should help
14:33you unravel
14:33that entire
14:34conspiracy in
14:36a much more
14:37effective manner.
14:37Otherwise,
14:38you know,
14:38you're looking,
14:39you're clutching
14:40at straws,
14:41but out here
14:41you've got the
14:42guys involved,
14:44you know,
14:44you've got them
14:45in custody.
14:45So that's a
14:47good thing.
14:47So,
14:48Shaan Sareen,
14:48I agree with
14:49you that there
14:50should not be
14:50a complete
14:51verdict pronounced
14:52against Al-Fala
14:53University because
14:55that certainly
14:56doesn't serve
14:57the purpose of
14:57all those who
14:58are studying
14:58there,
14:59the faculty
14:59that is working
15:00there at
15:01present.
15:01But Lieutenant
15:02General Rakesh
15:03Sharma,
15:03one thing
15:04is becoming
15:04clear that
15:05we were
15:05talking about
15:05homegrown
15:06terrorists in
15:07the context
15:08of Jamin
15:08Kashmir.
15:09What does
15:10this white
15:10collar terror
15:11network now
15:12mean?
15:14Thank you,
15:15Maria for
15:15inviting me.
15:16I agree with
15:17what Sushant
15:18has said just
15:18now.
15:19The fact is
15:20that we talk
15:20about white
15:21collar now
15:22when we see
15:24a number of
15:24doctors and
15:25a number of
15:25others involved
15:26into this act
15:27of terror.
15:27but we
15:28have had
15:29foreground
15:30workers for
15:30a very long
15:31time,
15:31last 20,
15:3230 years.
15:33They have
15:33been caught.
15:34Many of
15:34them are
15:34white collar
15:35of one
15:35kind or
15:36the other
15:36and they
15:37have been
15:38arrested people
15:38who are
15:39respected
15:40people across
15:42into the
15:42valley.
15:43So,
15:43you know,
15:43to say
15:44that since
15:45it comes
15:45down to
15:45Delhi and
15:46Faridabad,
15:47we say
15:47there is
15:47white collar
15:48and we
15:48are broadcasting
15:49it.
15:50It's not
15:50that it is
15:51something new.
15:52They have
15:53been people
15:53of this
15:55kind of
15:55respect who
15:57have been
15:57caught earlier
15:58as
15:59supporters,
16:01as radicalizers
16:01in many
16:03which ways.
16:03So,
16:03yes,
16:04this is a
16:05phenomenon
16:06that has
16:06been continuing.
16:07This has
16:07come to
16:08light in
16:08Delhi and
16:09that's why
16:09it has
16:09been picked
16:10up in
16:10that manner.
16:12So,
16:12I think
16:13this is one
16:15module which
16:15has been
16:16caught.
16:16It's got
16:16deep roots.
16:18I agree
16:18that there
16:19would have
16:19been a
16:19major event
16:21being planned
16:21a major
16:22series of
16:22events being
16:23planned with
16:23the quantum
16:24of the
16:26ammunition that
16:26has been
16:27picked up
16:27and the
16:28explosives that
16:28have been
16:28picked up.
16:29Not ready
16:30as yet as
16:31bombs,
16:31but then
16:31it's all
16:33available there.
16:34And if this
16:35is one module,
16:36there would be
16:36many more
16:37modules around
16:38which we are
16:38not as yet
16:39aware of.
16:39Maybe they
16:40are under
16:40investigation or
16:41under watch
16:43or something
16:43like that.
16:44So,
16:44one module
16:45is around
16:45which is open
16:46and we have
16:47some answers.
16:48We get some
16:49more answers here,
16:50but there would
16:50be many more
16:51which we
16:51have to
16:51follow them
16:52later.
16:53Okay.
16:54Yashwardhan
16:54Azad,
16:56former IEPS
16:57officer,
16:57is also
16:57joining us.
16:58But before
16:58that,
16:59Sanjay
16:59Sahai,
17:00given the
17:00nature of
17:01investigation
17:01which has
17:02happened in
17:02the last
17:0224 hours,
17:03because around
17:05the same
17:05time I was
17:06reporting from
17:07the site of
17:07the blast last
17:08evening,
17:09and of course
17:10we saw
17:10NIA,
17:11NSG,
17:12UPATS,
17:13and Delhi
17:15police special
17:16cell officers
17:17all on
17:18ground
17:18collecting
17:18various
17:19evidence,
17:20now it
17:20is the
17:20NIA,
17:21the Federal
17:22Counter-Terror
17:24Agency
17:25established in
17:262008,
17:27now taking
17:28charge of
17:28the entire
17:28investigation.
17:29The question
17:30really is,
17:31given how
17:32the tentacles
17:34of this entire
17:35terror module
17:36is spread
17:36across states,
17:37do you think
17:38it will take
17:38time to
17:39unravel what
17:40really led
17:41to this
17:42blast in
17:43Delhi,
17:44or are you
17:44sensing that
17:45various agency
17:46coordination will
17:47make it
17:47faster?
17:49The various
17:50agencies'
17:50coordination has
17:51been commendable,
17:52what we have
17:52been seeing
17:53since yesterday,
17:54and all the
17:54developments and
17:56evidence and
17:56arrests which
17:57has happened in
17:58the last 24
17:58hours,
17:59likely more than
18:0024 hours,
18:01at least has
18:01brought us to
18:02a situation
18:03where we know
18:03what the
18:04contours of
18:05terror are,
18:06which were the
18:06main personas,
18:07where it is
18:08emanating from,
18:10and what it
18:11intended to
18:12impact.
18:13So broadly,
18:14and whether it
18:15was out of
18:15fear or it
18:16was for
18:16whatever other
18:17reason,
18:17because lots
18:18of these
18:19terrorists,
18:20supposedly medical
18:21professionals,
18:22have already
18:24been napped.
18:25So that being
18:25the case,
18:26I think we
18:26will be able
18:27to put the
18:27threads together
18:28and we will
18:29be able to
18:29get a complete
18:30picture.
18:32Undeniably,
18:33the whole
18:33investigation effort
18:35would be
18:36restricted to
18:37the Delhi
18:37bomb blast,
18:38or the Red
18:39Ford bomb blast
18:40and the
18:40whole wider
18:41gamut of things
18:42which has been
18:43happening,
18:44might not get
18:45fully satisfied
18:46as far as the
18:47present probe is
18:48concerned.
18:49Let us break
18:49a couple of
18:50points.
18:51One is that
18:52these five,
18:52seven of the
18:53doctors would
18:54not have been
18:55radicalized five
18:56months back or
18:57six months back,
18:58which primarily
18:59means that the
19:00operations have
19:00been on for
19:01last couple of
19:02years,
19:03might be even
19:04at a time
19:04when these people
19:05were going
19:06through their
19:07medical education.
19:09Second is your
19:10GMC Shrinagar,
19:11third is your
19:12Alfala University.
19:15Now,
19:15these,
19:15whether the
19:16university
19:16managements were
19:17involved or the
19:17managements were
19:18not involved,
19:19there is a very
19:20clear-cut
19:21discerning eye
19:23which brought
19:24the academic
19:25institutions into
19:27into the play
19:29of a terrorist
19:30ecosystem because
19:32these are the
19:32institutions where
19:33we cannot ever
19:35think of any
19:36terrorism happening.
19:38So,
19:38that has been
19:38very,
19:39very clearly
19:40and very closely
19:41calibrated,
19:42designed and
19:43put into
19:43operation.
19:44And all these
19:45professionals are
19:46not the only
19:48ones because
19:48when, say,
19:492,900 cases of
19:51explosive move,
19:52it has been
19:53moved in
19:53different direction
19:54in variety of
19:55ways.
19:55We are not
19:56convinced of the
19:56fact that this
19:57is the whole
19:58lot of
19:59explosive which
19:59is available and
20:00only this much
20:02has moved.
20:03With regards to
20:04large number of
20:05operations which
20:05are going on to
20:07nab these people,
20:08I think those
20:10have not delivered
20:11results and at
20:12particular points
20:12in time we have
20:13felt that
20:15everything has
20:15gone to a lull.
20:17But that has
20:18been utilized for
20:19preparation, for
20:20planning, for
20:20variety of other
20:21things.
20:22And if we get
20:23into the handler's
20:24part of it, I
20:25think still a lot
20:26lot needs to be
20:26done as far as
20:27the handler part
20:28of it and as
20:28far as the
20:29technology part of
20:30it is concerned.
20:31Yes.
20:32Yashvardhan
20:33Azad come in
20:34now on
20:35particularly the
20:35role of the
20:36university where
20:37they studied.
20:38Of course, this
20:39is a subject of
20:39larger issue and
20:40debate about
20:41radicalization and
20:43the larger
20:43Islamization which
20:44is happening in
20:45several pockets.
20:47And that's where
20:48they all met.
20:49That's where that
20:50bonding started and
20:51then they fanned
20:52across India in
20:53various parts.
20:55And what we are
20:55seeing now is
20:56perhaps a case
20:59of radicalized
21:00youth.
21:01You see,
21:02radicalization is
21:03a challenge which
21:04is across the
21:04world for many
21:05of the security
21:06agencies which
21:07are facing.
21:08In San Francisco,
21:09you had that
21:09couple who was
21:10teaching a very
21:12fundamentalist kind
21:13of an Islam in
21:14trying to recruit
21:15people.
21:16It has happened
21:16all over the
21:17world.
21:17In fact, if you
21:18remember, even
21:19from Kerala,
21:20some educated
21:21students and
21:23persons fell
21:25prey to the
21:25ISIS, luring
21:27them on the
21:27internet.
21:28Some of them
21:29died and some
21:29of them ran
21:30away.
21:31And those who
21:31were in
21:32interrogation
21:32clearly revealed
21:33that they were
21:34lured into the
21:34trap and finally
21:36they were able
21:37to resist.
21:39Now, across
21:40the country,
21:40deradicalization
21:41attempts have
21:42been going on,
21:43there's no
21:43doubt.
21:44In the case
21:45of Kashmir,
21:47there is one
21:47particular Malvi
21:48who was the
21:49preacher for
21:51all these
21:52people.
21:53But this
21:53sensational
21:54module has
21:55revealed certain
21:56things, and
21:57which is that
21:58this kind of
21:59doctors who
22:00have gotten
22:00together, it's
22:01a very sinister
22:02kind of a
22:03module, I
22:04would say,
22:04because under
22:05the garb of
22:06the doctor's
22:07court, they
22:09have been
22:09assembling this
22:10material ammonium
22:12nitrate.
22:12Remember, only
22:13two tons of
22:14nitrate were
22:15collected by
22:16that Oklahoma
22:16guy, McGay,
22:17whatever his
22:18name was.
22:18And here
22:19you had
22:19three tons,
22:21which could
22:21have just
22:22created mayhem
22:23and complete
22:24disaster.
22:25The other
22:25is again the
22:26doctor module
22:26which was
22:27making ricin.
22:29The only
22:29time I heard
22:30of ricin was
22:31somebody getting
22:32killed in London,
22:33some Bulgarian,
22:34because ricin
22:35doesn't even have
22:35an antidote.
22:36And if this
22:37ricin is mixed
22:38with Prashad in
22:38Mandir, you can
22:39imagine the
22:40kind of a
22:41social, you
22:41know, bomb
22:42blast it would
22:43have taken
22:43place.
22:44So this
22:45is a real
22:47challenge now,
22:48but I'm
22:49happy.
22:49I mean, we
22:50are tracing
22:50another
22:51somewhere in
22:52UP and the
22:54linkages are
22:55coming far
22:55and wide.
22:56So this
22:58investigation is
22:59on the right
23:00track.
23:01And I think
23:01the investigative
23:02agencies have
23:03also moved in
23:04very well.
23:05The coordination
23:05is excellent and
23:07I'm sure we'll
23:08find more and
23:09more leads in
23:10time.
23:10One important
23:11aspect of this
23:12entire investigation
23:13as Alphala
23:13University, which
23:14is a private
23:15university in
23:17Dhauj in
23:17Faridabad is
23:19under the
23:20scanner, Mr.
23:21Azad, is
23:22that if the
23:24multiple doctors
23:25who have been
23:26detained are all
23:27from the
23:28campus, basically
23:29they have had
23:31some association
23:32with this
23:32university, the
23:33investigators are
23:34also examining
23:35a possible
23:36misuse of
23:37labs and
23:39employment links
23:40of key
23:40suspects with
23:42no formal
23:43institutional
23:44culpability.
23:46No institutional
23:48culpability has
23:49been established
23:50yet, while we
23:51emphasize on
23:51that, but a
23:53possibility of
23:54misuse of
23:54labs cannot be
23:56ruled out.
23:57Yes, I totally
23:58agree and I'll
23:58give you one
23:59example, that
24:00this Dr.
24:01Umar, only an
24:02hour before the
24:03module had been
24:04busted and this
24:05guy leaves
24:06Faridabad at
24:077 o'clock in
24:08the morning and
24:09while they were
24:09you know, so
24:10many raids
24:10going on,
24:11perhaps there
24:12were no
24:12police posts
24:13and nakas and
24:14this guy just
24:15drove 60
24:16kilometers away
24:17and then he
24:18was hanging
24:19around Delhi
24:19for so many
24:20hours and
24:21then busted
24:21it.
24:22That module,
24:23that bomb was
24:24not even
24:24properly, you
24:25know, assembled
24:26and that's why
24:27the damage was
24:28less, otherwise
24:29there would have
24:29been a huge
24:30damage.
24:30So obviously
24:31there was an
24:32ecosystem which
24:33is supporting
24:33him and those
24:34labs you're
24:35talking about,
24:36absolutely sure
24:37if it had
24:37something to
24:38do with
24:38either ricin
24:39or something,
24:40then we should
24:41see the
24:41linkages between
24:42the two modules
24:43and if they are
24:44together then
24:45obviously it's a
24:46very sinister
24:46thing as I
24:47pointed out
24:48earlier.
24:49Yes, because if
24:50we look at the
24:51explosive cache
24:52which has been
24:53recovered from
24:53Faridabad and
24:55from various
24:56others, because
24:57it's all, you
24:59know, pointing
24:59towards what is
25:00now being called
25:01as a white
25:02collar module
25:03and overall
25:06like a Faridabad
25:07module, in fact
25:08some piece of
25:09breaking news
25:09which is coming
25:10in now and I'll
25:11go back to the
25:11guests in just
25:1230 seconds.
25:13All suspects,
25:15that is the
25:15senior doctors
25:16are from
25:17Alphala University.
25:18Remember,
25:19Alphala University
25:20is a private
25:21university which
25:22is located in
25:24Faridabad whose
25:25campus and
25:26affiliates have
25:27now come under
25:28the lens after
25:30the blast.
25:31Alphala University
25:32website has now
25:33been hacked by
25:34Indian Cyber
25:35Alliance.
25:36Official website
25:37is showing some
25:39messages which
25:41have been put out.
25:42Let me bring in
25:43Sushant Sarin now.
25:44Sushant Sarin,
25:45as agencies are
25:47conducting searches
25:48in and around
25:50this university
25:51area, it's a
25:52coordinated effort
25:54by multiple
25:55officials.
25:56One thing is
25:56becoming clear
25:57that these, when
25:59we talk about
25:59overground workers,
26:01something that
26:02seem to have
26:03left German
26:04Kashmir, but
26:05then their
26:06connections are
26:07in other parts
26:07of India.
26:08And that's the
26:09concern here.
26:09No, but again,
26:12nothing quite unique
26:13in that,
26:14Maria.
26:15Look, you know,
26:16I think partly
26:18this is a problem
26:19that we, it's
26:20very easy to
26:21stereotype people.
26:23And when you
26:24say white
26:24collar module,
26:27what the hell
26:27do we mean by
26:28that?
26:28Look, I think
26:29it's just people
26:30like you and me
26:31expressing shock
26:32that it's people
26:33like us who are
26:34involved in something
26:35like this.
26:36But terrorism is
26:38not something that
26:38poor people do.
26:40Terrorism is
26:41something that
26:42it's the lower
26:43middle class,
26:43middle class,
26:44and sometimes
26:44rich people do.
26:46I can give you
26:46any number of
26:47examples where
26:48highly educated
26:49people from
26:51some of the
26:51top universities
26:52working in
26:53MNCs,
26:55working as
26:55top doctors,
26:57engineers,
26:58you name it,
26:59they've been
26:59involved in this
27:00kind of activity.
27:02Terrorism at
27:02the end of the
27:03day is an
27:03ideological issue,
27:05at some level
27:06even a political
27:07issue.
27:07So I think
27:08the mistake
27:10we very often
27:10make is,
27:12and this is
27:12a kind of
27:13dumbing down
27:14which I think
27:14a lot of
27:15people,
27:16including in
27:16our government
27:17and our
27:17political
27:17establishment
27:18have been
27:18doing,
27:19that you
27:20educate them
27:21and that is
27:22when you
27:23will make
27:23sure that
27:24there will
27:24not be
27:24terrorism.
27:25It means
27:26that you've
27:26not studied
27:27the phenomena,
27:28you've not
27:29tried to
27:29profile the
27:30terrorists in
27:31a proper
27:31manner,
27:32and that is
27:33why you
27:33indulge in
27:35these kind of
27:36myth-making
27:36around terrorism
27:37and you
27:37make the
27:38kind of
27:38mistakes we
27:39make.
27:39Having said
27:40that,
27:41again,
27:41it's not
27:42entirely
27:43unheard of
27:43that in a
27:45particular
27:45university,
27:46in a particular
27:47setting,
27:48there could be
27:48a bunch of
27:49people,
27:50like-minded
27:50people who
27:51decide that
27:52they want to
27:52do something,
27:53right?
27:54Does that
27:55implicate the
27:56administration
27:57of the
27:57university?
27:58I think
27:58it's too
27:58early to
27:59say.
27:59Were
28:00university
28:01assets being
28:02used or
28:03misused by
28:03these characters?
28:04Again,
28:05I think we
28:05are jumping
28:06to conclusions
28:07which is not
28:08entirely fair
28:08at this point
28:09in time.
28:09It is entirely
28:10possible the
28:11labs were
28:11being used.
28:12It's quite
28:12possible that
28:13they were
28:13not being
28:14used.
28:14Or they
28:14were being
28:15used without
28:15permission,
28:16surreptitiously,
28:18things were
28:18being smuggled
28:19out of the
28:19labs to
28:20rig up some
28:20things.
28:21That's entirely
28:22possible.
28:23But I
28:23don't...
28:24So,
28:24Shansarine,
28:24at the moment
28:25what we can
28:26certainly say is
28:27that there is
28:27no clarity
28:29over whether
28:30there was
28:31some kind
28:32of university
28:32linkage here.
28:34So,
28:34as you
28:34said,
28:35there is a
28:35possibility
28:36that the
28:36laboratory
28:37was being
28:37used
28:38surreptitiously.
28:39Exactly.
28:40So,
28:41you know,
28:41it's like
28:41saying that
28:42Delhi University
28:42was to
28:43blame for
28:43the parliament
28:44attack because
28:45one of the
28:45guys involved
28:46in that
28:47particular
28:47conspiracy
28:48was a
28:48professor
28:49in Delhi
28:49University.
28:50I think
28:51a lot of
28:52us on your
28:53channel right
28:53now are
28:54from Delhi
28:54University and
28:55frankly,
28:57Delhi University
28:57is known for
28:58many other
28:58things but
28:59not for
28:59this kind
29:00of stuff.
29:00So,
29:00there could
29:01be people
29:01from Delhi
29:02University
29:03who are
29:03involved in
29:03it.
29:04The same
29:04thing would
29:05probably apply
29:05out here.
29:06So,
29:06let's wait
29:07and see.
29:07I would
29:08hold
29:09judgment or
29:11passing judgment
29:11until more
29:12evidence and
29:14more investigations
29:15have been
29:15done and
29:16maybe after
29:17that we can
29:17come to
29:18some kind
29:18of a
29:19conclusion
29:19of the
29:20complicity
29:20or lack
29:21of it of
29:21the
29:21university.
29:23But,
29:24you know.
29:24All right.
29:24Point well
29:25taken here.
29:27Yeshwardhan
29:28Azad,
29:29I think
29:29being a
29:32lot
29:32circumspect
29:33in a
29:33developing
29:34story like
29:34this really
29:35helps because
29:36as we have
29:37been saying
29:37that there
29:38are doctors
29:38and when
29:40we use the
29:41word white
29:41collar ecosystem,
29:44it can have
29:44multiple
29:45repercussions
29:46as well.
29:46no,
29:48absolutely.
29:49I mean,
29:49but to
29:49say it,
29:50that is a
29:51white collar
29:51kind of
29:52group.
29:54There's nothing
29:54wrong with
29:55that because
29:55these are all
29:56guys who are
29:57with white
29:57collars.
29:58They are
29:58traitors to
29:59the country
30:00and they are
30:01traitors to
30:01their own
30:02uniform.
30:03Also,
30:03the kind
30:04of thing,
30:04the reprehensible
30:05thing which
30:06they have
30:06done is
30:07something
30:07unheard
30:08of that you
30:09think of
30:10doctors as
30:10saviors of
30:11people and
30:11they are the
30:12ones who are
30:12against their
30:14own country.
30:15Imagine the
30:15kind of money
30:16emissions is
30:16spent on
30:17them.
30:18Imagine the
30:18kind of
30:19waste of
30:20resources on
30:21them.
30:22So if there
30:23is more
30:24culpability of
30:25more people,
30:26I don't
30:26rule.
30:26For example,
30:28you know,
30:28Maria,
30:29today only the
30:30modules, the
30:31heads have
30:31been caught.
30:32But tomorrow
30:32the couriers,
30:33the runners,
30:34the sellers,
30:35the dealers,
30:36the chemical
30:37signature will
30:38lead us to a
30:38lot of more
30:39linkages.
30:40And in that
30:40linkage, if we
30:41find that more
30:43and more people
30:43are there,
30:44then we
30:45realize what
30:45a sinister
30:46network this
30:46has been.
30:47And then we'll
30:48definitely get to
30:49know how much
30:49of the university
30:50complicity is
30:51there.
30:51Right now,
30:52yes, we
30:52cannot say
30:53they can be
30:54misusing the
30:55labs, they
30:56can be
30:56misusing the
30:57precincts, but
30:58whether there's
30:59an institutional
30:59support, we
31:00don't know.
31:01There is a
31:01kind of an
31:02ecosystem, yes,
31:03because otherwise
31:04a fellow like
31:05this cannot just
31:05get out at
31:06seven and
31:07you know,
31:08nothing happens.
31:09He runs
31:10away and
31:11nobody is able
31:12to track him.
31:13But the
31:13more important
31:14thing, again,
31:15you know, which
31:15I feel is that
31:17this thing
31:18emanated from
31:19Jammu and
31:19Kashmir, from
31:20that Malvi, who
31:23was contaminating
31:24this, you know,
31:25so-called wisdom
31:27to all these
31:29people.
31:30How many he has
31:31contaminated is
31:32something which we
31:32need to know.
31:33And it could be
31:34just across the
31:35country, because
31:36many of these
31:36people meet also
31:38together.
31:39They could be
31:39having handlers
31:40from outside,
31:41fine.
31:42They could be,
31:42you know, running
31:43those encrypted
31:44messages, which
31:45again is a very
31:45common feature.
31:46They might be
31:47paid through a
31:48cryptocurrency system.
31:49That also, again,
31:50it will be found
31:51later.
31:52But right now,
31:53what is more
31:54important is what
31:55are the other
31:56things where they
31:58were planning to
31:59create this kind
32:00of mayhem.
32:01And I'm sure,
32:02you know, with
32:02the linkages we
32:04have now, with the
32:05interrogations they
32:06can do, we'll be
32:07able to find out
32:07many, many more
32:08things which are
32:09going.
32:10There is a piece
32:10of breaking news
32:11which is coming
32:11in now.
32:12I'll request all
32:13the panelists to
32:13continue to be
32:14with us.
32:15Now, Dr. Shaheen's
32:16brother has been
32:17arrested.
32:18Remember, Dr. Shaheen
32:19is already in the
32:20custody of the
32:21police and Shaheen's
32:22brother Parvez
32:22Ansari has now
32:23been arrested by
32:25the UPATS and
32:26Jambalian Kashmir
32:27police.
32:30Samarth is
32:31joining us now.
32:32So, what is the
32:33role of Parvez
32:34Ansari here, the
32:36brother of Dr.
32:37Shaheen?
32:38Samarth?
32:40The current update
32:42coming in this
32:42particular story is
32:43the detention of
32:45Parvez, brother of
32:46Shaheen.
32:47Because we have
32:47got to know about
32:49Shaheen's role so
32:50far, but there is
32:51no information about
32:52Parvez's role.
32:53And what we are
32:54getting from sources
32:54is that the
32:55interrogation, firstly,
32:57is about Shaheen's
32:58entire role, which
32:59is still under
33:00scanner, because they
33:01recovered a hard
33:02disk, a mobile phone
33:03from Shaheen Ansari's
33:04house to ensure
33:06that what other
33:07terror angles could
33:08come from that
33:09particular role of
33:10Parvez as well,
33:11because Parvez is a
33:12member of Integral
33:12University in
33:13Latnau, so he is
33:14also from that
33:15particular medical
33:17background.
33:17So, it's going to be
33:18worth seeing whether
33:19Parvez does have some
33:20role about it, or the
33:22interrogation or the
33:22detention is all about
33:23seeking more
33:24information about that
33:26particular lady, so it's
33:27going to be worth
33:28seeing, but the
33:28current update is
33:30that, firstly, when the
33:31ATS team reached the
33:32Maniao area of
33:33Latnau, he was not
33:34found, but later,
33:35what we are getting
33:35from sources, he was
33:37detained from some
33:37other location, which
33:39is anonymous for the
33:40media person, because
33:40ATS was not sharing
33:42that information, that
33:43also about, regarding
33:44security concern, and
33:46that's why the
33:46detention has taken
33:47place, it's confirmed,
33:48and obviously the
33:49interrogation is on, and
33:50the ATS guys are
33:52stressing more on the
33:53role of Shaheen in
33:55this particular case, not
33:56about Parvez, but it
33:58is more about Shaheen,
33:59and that's why Parvez,
34:00after Shaheen, inside
34:01your father, is one of
34:02the major characters in
34:03this particular story,
34:04back to you.
34:05Thank you for joining
34:06us, Lefton General
34:07Rakesh Sharma, when we
34:09look at the direction
34:10of the investigation,
34:11of course, there are
34:12multiple states, multiple
34:13agencies, which are
34:14involved in this, and
34:16NIA overseeing
34:17everything, but the
34:19Jammu and Kashmir
34:19police role becomes
34:20particularly important,
34:22given the fact that the
34:23suicide bomber, Dr.
34:25Umar, actually has
34:26links in Pulwama.
34:27So, many issues
34:31here, Maria.
34:32One is that many
34:34of these people who
34:35come down to various
34:36universities around in
34:38Delhi and anywhere
34:39else, have got a
34:41kind of quota.
34:43There is a quota given
34:44out by AICTE, which
34:46says that, you know,
34:47students who are from
34:49family income of less
34:50than 8 lakhs can come
34:52and get seats into
34:53universities like
34:54Alfala.
34:54So, there will be a
34:56bunch of Kashmiri
34:57students who land up
34:58into a particular
34:58institution like this,
35:00which gets its quota
35:02and then they can be
35:03the second issue.
35:05A single Malvi or two
35:06Malvis do not make
35:07a radicalization issue.
35:09The radicalization is
35:10carried out by CDs
35:11which are in rotation.
35:13Zakir Naik's CDs or
35:15CDs or information on
35:17the dark web.
35:18Internet is open.
35:19So, everybody can get
35:21radicalized by the kind
35:22of information being
35:23pushed around here.
35:26The third point I wish
35:26to make is that, you
35:28know, despite the fact
35:29he left at 7 in the
35:30morning and, you know,
35:30he did not do anything
35:31till 6.54, but I think
35:34you found the right
35:35place to go, the right
35:38time to go for which
35:39a terrorist would look
35:41for to make the
35:42excellent amount of
35:43noise that could be
35:44made.
35:45Nothing better than
35:45going to Chandi Chowk
35:46and just before 7 o'clock
35:48can take a blast at it.
35:50So, whether it was a
35:50crude bomb, it was a
35:52mistaken bomb, but he
35:53went to the right
35:54place, he waited for
35:55three hours, he moved
35:56out of that parking
35:58lot and just within
35:59four minutes reached
36:00that red light and
36:02blasted it in the right
36:03place.
36:03So, I think, you know,
36:04we cannot casually say
36:05that it has been a
36:07crude bomb and he
36:08could not manufacture
36:09a bomb.
36:10That ammonium nitrate
36:12does not blast on its
36:13own.
36:14It requires a detonator.
36:16It requires a fuel to
36:17add to it.
36:18So, whether he put
36:19nails or not is not
36:21important.
36:22He had a crude bomb
36:23which he knew would be
36:24blasted and he used
36:25that bomb at the right
36:26place at the right
36:27time.
36:27So, it cannot be
36:28casually pushed away.
36:29So, you know, when we
36:30start investigating, how
36:32does 3,000 kgs of
36:34ammonium nitrate land up
36:36in Faridabad?
36:37Did it come across the
36:38borders?
36:39Did it come from some
36:41kind of agency which is
36:42using explosives?
36:44There is a whole lot of
36:45investigation to be
36:46carried out before we
36:47come down to it.
36:48And we have not yet
36:49heard about the cell
36:51phones or the SIM
36:53cards.
36:54Have we listened to
36:55some kind of
36:56conversation that
36:57took place in the
36:57towers close by to
36:59Chandi Chowk at that
37:00particular time for
37:01somebody passing
37:02messages across there?
37:03Yes, a lot of
37:04unanswered questions
37:05left in General
37:06Rakesh Sharma.
37:06I agree.
37:07But a word on Dr.
37:08Shaheen Shahid here,
37:10Sanjay Sahai.
37:12I'm giving you a wrap
37:13up of what exactly her
37:14role has been so far.
37:16She has been linked
37:17with explosives, a
37:18seizure which has
37:19happened in Faridabad.
37:21Her arrest led to
37:23Jaish-e-Muhammad's
37:24terror module bust and
37:26she has been accused of
37:27forming women's wing of
37:28Jaish-e-Muhammad.
37:29And of course, all this is
37:31linked to Al-Falah
37:32University and has
37:34been a close aide of
37:35Dr. Muzamil.
37:36The car which was used
37:37to store weapons
37:38belonged to Shaheen.
37:40So she is being seen
37:41as an important suspect
37:43in this entire terror
37:46plot.
37:46Sanjay Sahai.
37:48Yes, she's certainly a
37:50very important and
37:51critical persona in this
37:52whole terror plot and
37:54might be she is the
37:55critical element in
37:56Al-Falah University where
37:57she has a standing and
37:59where she is able to
37:59connect all these people
38:01and being a lady.
38:02I think she is adding
38:03more might to the
38:04whole thing because the
38:05capability being a lady
38:07would be that she would
38:08be more innocent.
38:09So starting from there
38:11and the nature of
38:12assignment and
38:12responsibility being
38:14given to her by her
38:15terrorist masters of
38:18creating a woman's
38:19organization and she
38:20herself is in possession
38:22of women and variety of
38:23other things adds a
38:24totally different
38:25dimension to this whole
38:27exercise of radicalization.
38:28So radicalization, one
38:30of these terrorist guys
38:31primarily male and who
38:33understand the whole
38:34thing and to a lady who
38:36is also an equal partner
38:37might be poor, might be
38:39she sees the cementing
38:40factor.
38:41Now as we move further
38:42there will be a huge
38:43amount of digital evidence
38:44which has already been
38:45seized by the
38:46investigating agency.
38:47I don't know how much
38:48of work has been done on
38:49that but in lots of cases
38:51we see as we get into the
38:53digital evidence part of
38:54it and the communication
38:55part of it.
38:56So those two add up and
38:58give you a different sort
38:59of a pattern.
39:00With regards to whatever
39:01happened yesterday and the
39:02person was able to travel
39:04and we are talking about
39:05the fact that the seizures
39:06were done and the
39:08investigating agencies
39:09were passing on the
39:11information to the local
39:12police to nab this
39:14Umar.
39:15But the point is all
39:16throughout he has
39:17travelled and there is
39:17nobody who has checked
39:18him.
39:19So that becomes very very
39:20important.
39:21And generally if you get
39:22into the selection of
39:24a terrorist site
39:26primarily for a blast
39:28I think the selection
39:30was ideal in whatever
39:31state of mind the main
39:33perpetrator was.
39:35So now two, three things
39:37are very important.
39:38When did the radicalization
39:39start?
39:40If it is happening for
39:40three, four years.
39:42Second is how does this
39:442900 kgs of explosive
39:47material reach where it
39:49has reached?
39:49So there is an
39:50understanding that there
39:51are institutions, there
39:53are roots and there are
39:54methods by which things
39:55are moving in a very
39:57seamless manner, in a
39:58very well orchestrated
40:00manner and they are able
40:01to do literally every
40:03single agency in this
40:04country.
40:05Okay.
40:05Now at this particular
40:06juncture it is very very
40:08important that we
40:09basically understand the
40:10ecosystem while nabbing
40:12it.
40:12So that we don't get into
40:13this exercise over and
40:15over again.
40:15And this is happening
40:16since Richard had
40:17I have just enough time
40:19for the final comment
40:20from Yeshwar Dhanazad.
40:21Please wait sir.
40:23I'm glad that Sanjay has
40:24made my point clear as
40:26to what exactly I meant
40:28by saying the guy left
40:29at about seven o'clock
40:30and cruised through 60
40:31kilometers and then was
40:33hanging around in Delhi.
40:34That's number one.
40:35Number two, radicalization
40:37doesn't really, you know,
40:38come out of a few cassettes
40:40here and there.
40:41Radicalization needs a
40:42kind of a guru.
40:43It needs a kind of a
40:44perfect indoctrination and
40:47indoctrination not once
40:48but over time.
40:50And that's why this is a
40:51dangerous module because if
40:53this has happened to our
40:54educated set, which has
40:56been happening abroad, of
40:57course, 9-11 also took
40:58place because those
41:00pilots were flying in,
41:02aeronautical engineers were
41:03trained in, you know, in
41:04Germany and things like
41:06that.
41:06But this is, has a serious
41:08portent on national
41:10security, this kind of a
41:11module.
41:12And I think that is why we
41:14need a lot of, a lot of
41:16extra care.
41:17First, an excellent
41:18coordination, more and
41:20more linkages to come out.
41:22And today, now we have to
41:24be very, very careful about
41:26the various...
41:27The thing is also clear,
41:28Yashwad and Azad, that
41:30this white collar terrorism
41:31isn't new.
41:33Yes, yes.
41:35And that's why I said that
41:36the ISIS attempt has been
41:37right from before.
41:39Many educated people have
41:40been falling into the
41:41trap.
41:42But this kind of a
41:43sinister getting together
41:45of community of doctors
41:46is something very serious
41:48because you look at, look
41:51at ricin.
41:52Ricin doesn't have an
41:53antidote, you know.
41:54And if it's mixed with
41:55Prashad, you can see what
41:57can actually happen.
41:58The doctors, in their
42:00cover, they can collect
42:01ammonium nitrate.
42:03Lady doctor can almost
42:04virtually has a
42:05carte blanche.
42:06She can just go anywhere.
42:07So, given this kind of
42:09a situation, that's why I
42:11said that it has very
42:12serious portent for
42:13national security.
42:15All right.
42:16Thank you for joining us,
42:17Yashwad and Azad,
42:18Sushant Sareen, Sanjay
42:19Sahai, and left-in-general
42:21Rakesh Sharma.
42:22There are so many names
42:23and so many faces, and
42:25all lost to one senseless
42:27act of terror.
42:29And as investigators hunt
42:30for those behind the
42:31attack, the victims'
42:32families are demanding
42:34answers.
42:34answers.
42:35Why was there no
42:36security?
42:37Who will be held
42:38accountable?
42:39And how many more
42:40ordinary lives must be
42:42lost before Delhi feels
42:43safe again?
42:45This is not just a story
42:46of a terror strike.
42:48It's a story of the
42:49people it left behind.
42:51Take a look.
42:51Many lives lost, families
43:03shattered.
43:05A day after the Redfoot
43:06blast, the grief is wrong
43:07and the questions are many.
43:10Behind every headline, there
43:12is a face, a story, a home
43:14torn apart.
43:15In the corner of Delhi,
43:19Pankat's family spent hours
43:21dialing his number after
43:22the blast.
43:24The 22-year-old, an Uber
43:26driver, had gone to drop a
43:27relative at the railway
43:28station.
43:29I heard about the news and
43:32then immediately the phone
43:34came down and he was
43:35moving up.
43:36As you live here and
43:37then, we have gone to
43:38the train, we have been
43:39for a while.
43:40We will not have a
43:41Definitely visit.
43:42After the police, we are
43:43coming to tengan the
43:43number.
43:44This is the entire
43:46evening.
43:46It has no
43:59At Sher Nawaspuri, the neighbours of Hamarkatariya, an only son, remember a kind young man who
44:19lived with his parents.
44:40Noman Ansari had come to Delhi from Shamli with his friend Amman.
44:44While the blasts claim Ansari's life, Amman is battling for survival in the hospital.
45:14In Merat, grief spills out of a small one-room home where Mohsin's family gathers.
45:23He drove an e-riksha, the only source of income for his parents and two younger siblings.
45:29Subhash, another victim, used to work at a toll booth.
45:44Subhash, another victim, used to work at a toll booth.
45:51Subhash, another victim, used to work at a toll booth.
46:12Their pain doesn't end there.
46:13When Subhash's body reached the hospital, the family says even dignity was denied.
46:19Subhash, another victim, used to work at a toll booth.
46:39Each home tells the same story of lives lived on hope, of dreams crushed in a moment.
46:46Milan Sharma, Bureau Report, India Today.
46:51Extremely distressing story come in there.
46:55We'll continue to track the story and the investigation into the terror blast in Delhi very closely.
47:02That's all from me on this edition of the news track.
47:04I'll be seeing you tomorrow.
47:05Thanks so much.
47:06Just see you tomorrow.
47:07Until now, please.
47:08See you tomorrow.
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