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Sister Wives follows Kody Brown and his wives Meri, Janelle, Christine, and Robyn as they navigate the complexities of their polygamist lifestyle. This episode, the premiere of Season 20, delves into the latest developments in their relationships and individual challenges. Viewers can expect to see the family confront new hurdles and personal decisions.

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00:01Previously on Sister Wives.
00:04I keep thinking that you and I could make this work.
00:07What about you and me?
00:08We have had so many conversations where I've said,
00:11it's done, we're done, we're not compatible.
00:13Will you accept me as monogamous?
00:16That's not what I wanted.
00:20Gosh! You're out of control!
00:22There are times we butt heads. Yeah, absolutely.
00:25Oh yeah, this adjustment on both ends.
00:27I love Flagstaff, but it's time to do something different.
00:32I don't know how to explain this.
00:35It was never intended for me to know that Janelle was moving.
00:38Oh, I don't know, I need to find a man.
00:41And now I'm 52.
00:44But you have room for people to be in your life, too.
00:47Madison actually called Janelle, saying Dad said he didn't love you.
00:53I know, but couldn't you, like, reach out to her?
00:56All this upheaval, all this damage, all this tearing us apart.
01:01I don't know how we fix it, or when we fix it, or whether we fix it.
01:05I don't know how we fix it out.
01:07We don't know how we fix it.
01:08We don't know how we fix it.
01:11The big family, it's just a mess.
01:39It's a painful, sad mess.
01:44There was a point where I just went, holy cow.
01:47I'm having days where I'm feeling vengeful and angry,
01:52and other days when I'm feeling benevolent and kind.
01:55And it's just become this roller coaster for me.
01:58I'm just waking kids up, getting ready for school.
02:02Got Solomon in the shower right now.
02:04Ari gets in a half hour or goes into school an hour after Solomon.
02:08I think things are relatively good with Janelle.
02:11Once in a blue moon, I talk to Janelle,
02:13and once even more rare, I talk to Mary.
02:17With Mary, we really do struggle to talk.
02:19I don't blame her, but it doesn't make life easy.
02:22And then with Christine, we text a little bit about Truly,
02:26pick up times and stuff like that, but we don't talk in person at all.
02:29Instead of having an amicable, hey, you know, we're not really working out.
02:36Have a good life. See you later.
02:38It got darker and darker and worse and worse until break up.
02:42And then, oh yeah, hey, I actually did love them.
02:46We're going to have a Tuscan white bean soup.
02:53A Tuscan.
02:55Tuscan.
02:56Because now I crave everything Tuscan.
02:58I like soup in the wintertime.
03:00I love soup. Soup is my love language.
03:02I love being married.
03:03I love being married to David.
03:05First year of marriage, they say that a lot of people fight in their first year of marriage.
03:09I think we're doing good, I'm just saying.
03:11I think that applies to young couples because they're trying to figure out each other.
03:16I think so, too.
03:17But when you're older, I just don't care about a lot of the little stuff.
03:22No. No, I don't either.
03:24Our first year was really a tough year.
03:26In some ways, we had really good stuff at TEP.
03:30It wasn't between you and I. It was the passing up garrison that was really tough.
03:35Yeah.
03:36It was really, really tough.
03:37It was a lot of emotions.
03:42I miss them every day.
03:44Yeah, I bet you do.
03:45Every day.
03:46Yeah.
03:48So it was tough to see how you guys all handle it.
03:54And there's a lot of raw emotions going on.
04:01Like, I live in Utah.
04:03Janelle lives in North Carolina.
04:04Maddie's there.
04:06A lot of my kids live in Utah, too.
04:09Gwendolyn still lives in Flagstaff.
04:11And then Cody, like, they're still in Flagstaff.
04:14Cody and Robin.
04:15Mary lives in Parowan.
04:17Everybody's very, very separated.
04:19So it's been about a year and a half that I've been here at the B&B.
04:28Things are good.
04:29I like my life.
04:30I don't need you showing up looking like you just rolled out of bed or trying to find you a man.
04:36I do have interaction with different members of the family at different times.
04:41I've got good relationships with some and almost non-existent with some.
04:46You know what I mean?
04:47At this point, with Coyote Pass, it is still an ongoing situation.
04:58Cleaning up Coyote Pass is not something that Mary and Janelle are going to do.
05:01There's a lot of stuff that was left behind by Janelle that she was using for the RV.
05:06Mary and Janelle expect me to do all the cleanup on this place, but I'm not motivated to do that.
05:11Not for them, because they haven't been kind.
05:15It feels like he's trying to find any possible thing to put on me, like, as far as responsibility with the property.
05:21You know, like, I'm just wanting to get it taken care of.
05:24I think it's his stuff.
05:29All right, I'm going to do these because, you know, I'm grandma and I can cook the fun things for the kids, right?
05:34Absolutely.
05:35That's why we love having you here.
05:38I love them.
05:40I love North Carolina.
05:41I never thought about it.
05:43It wasn't a state I ever thought about.
05:45And I love it.
05:46I have four seasons.
05:48Like, all the things I need.
05:50I've been, um, I've been trying to kind of put myself in situations where I can meet people.
05:57Some of the community events.
05:59I've been trying to take a few classes down at the coffee shop or whatever, or the cooking store.
06:04And so just trying to, trying to get my bearings.
06:07Okay, so, Coyote Pass is still a pain in my ass.
06:12It's not unsettled.
06:13No.
06:14So, you know, when I married Coyote, I really did feel a calling.
06:17I had a very strong spiritual witness that I was supposed to be married to Coyote.
06:21And I don't feel that pull anymore towards plural marriage.
06:25Look, I don't care how fast it sells.
06:27I just want it resolved.
06:28Isn't he all about fairness, though?
06:30Oh, no.
06:31Only for him.
06:32Oh, yeah.
06:33Okay, I got you.
06:34I got you.
06:35Only when it applies to Coyote Brown.
06:36That's true.
06:37That makes sense.
06:38Well, I'm sorry that that is what you're going through.
06:40And the stress of the property.
06:42You know, I had sort of thought about a spiritual divorce a long time ago and didn't even realize
06:47it was an option.
06:48And so when Mary got one, I'm like, oh, hey, Mary, who do I call?
06:53You know?
06:54So she has been kind of helping me get in touch with everybody.
06:57You know, there would be so much benefit to just making polygamy legal and giving any
07:02wife a claim on her husband's assets.
07:05I bet you almost would make polygamy go away rather than chase it underground and put people
07:09in jail.
07:10Just make it about the financial.
07:11No guy's going to be giving part of his estate to four or five wives.
07:16So it's not going to happen.
07:17All right.
07:18What do you think?
07:19Are those done?
07:20Yeah, I think those are done.
07:21I think those are done.
07:22Cool.
07:23All right.
07:24You know, I am really glad that it's worked out that I have relocated to North Carolina.
07:31Because after Garrison's death, I think Flagstaff would have been harder.
07:36I know that Wyoming was absolutely the right place to bury him.
07:39Everybody pretty much was able to make it.
07:42We're always talking about him.
07:44It almost is like he's very present.
07:46And I'm really good.
07:47And then at night, sometimes when it's quiet or some picture comes up on my phone, then
07:52I'm not good.
07:53I love being with the grandkids.
07:55Love it.
07:56It's so therapeutic for me.
08:01After the funeral, we went back to Erica's house and we were having a barbecue.
08:06Leon and I started talking about just unpacking everything.
08:14Because Garrison's death showed a lot.
08:19Like, so with Cody, it's like, I'm angry at the way things happened.
08:26But I can control how I react and how I reciprocate.
08:33And I'm still deciding how I do that.
08:36I'm sad.
08:38I'm sad for him.
08:40And I'm really sad for Robin's kids.
08:43And like, if I had a conversation with any of them, I'd be like, I'm like, I have nothing
08:48against you.
08:49And if I've ever done anything to hurt you, I'm sorry.
08:52Like, I would love to have a conversation.
08:54I'm not sure what to say other than that.
08:56Like, if I ever cause you pain, I'm sorry.
08:58Man, you have to stop.
09:21You want your dad to show up.
09:24And you want reconciliation.
09:36And I know that I played a part.
09:40But I'm angry.
09:45And I'm angry.
09:48Because I'm still trying to learn to not be disappointed.
10:02I'd really love to have a better relationship with my children that I had with those ex-wives.
10:07I literally just compartmentalized the heartbreak.
10:12I don't know what to do.
10:15I would love healing with every single person I know.
10:19I would love healing with Mary.
10:21I would love healing with Janelle.
10:23I would love healing with Christine.
10:25And of course, all of my children.
10:28But I think we're in an impasse here.
10:31Because this healing can only happen on their terms only.
10:37I would absolutely love it if Cody and I, if Robin and I, if, you know, me and Christine, me and Janelle, could just get to a place with each other that we can be kind and civil to each other.
10:54I think in order to really heal with anybody, there has to be trust.
11:00We all need to see each other again when it's not around a funeral.
11:03So we can all start to heal a different way.
11:06I'm still learning how to just see him for who he is.
11:15And I feel like Leon's already come to peace with this.
11:19And it's really hard because I don't feel like I have.
11:23I'm trying to understand that maybe he didn't know how to show up.
11:28He might be hurting.
11:42We're ready to go.
11:43Let's go.
11:44Let's go do this thing.
11:45Let's go have you speed date.
11:46No, I have never even thought about doing speed dating.
11:49Just too stressful.
11:50It's too big of a group and it's way too noisy.
11:53Losing a wife in our religion was sort of a walk of shame.
11:56I've been concerned that somehow or another I'm diminished in Robin's eyes.
12:05I am going on a date with a whole bunch of men.
12:13I think it's going to be a fun day.
12:15I don't know how it's going to be.
12:16I've never done anything like this before, but I think it'll be fun.
12:19So I'm heading up to Salt Lake because I am going to go to a speed dating event.
12:23It should be very interesting.
12:26I have never done speed dating before.
12:33So just do that when you walk in tonight.
12:36Yes.
12:37Okay.
12:38And then...
12:40I need a man who knows and loves this bitch.
12:50Listen.
12:51If somebody doesn't like me and all my snort laughter, then they just aren't going to get me.
12:57And then they're just not my person.
12:59I think humor in any case.
13:06I don't care if you fart when you laugh accidentally.
13:09I don't...
13:10You know, I don't have a problem with Mary's snort laugh.
13:15We're ready to go.
13:16Let's go.
13:17Let's go do this thing.
13:18Let's go have you speed date.
13:19No, I have never even thought about doing speed dating.
13:22Just too stressful.
13:23It's too big of a group and it's way too noisy.
13:25I have to meet them totally organically.
13:27I'm not going on any apps.
13:28I'm not speed dating.
13:29I'm not letting anyone set me up.
13:31Nothing.
13:32Nothing.
13:33Nothing.
13:34Nothing.
13:35Speed date for a soulmate.
13:37Dating is interesting because some people really just don't want to date.
13:42It's teaching me how to trust myself.
13:51And I'm interested in finding somebody who is kind, who is outgoing, who is super confident
13:58with who he is.
14:03I would love to find somebody who's tall.
14:05Like six feet or taller would be awesome.
14:09Somebody who has like really good, kind eyes.
14:13You can see if somebody's a good person by looking in their eyes.
14:25For the most part, it's just Cody and I and our kids.
14:30You know, I nag him about interacting with his other children.
14:34He pushes back, tells me to give him space, da-da-da.
14:38So, but other than that, it's just us.
14:41School.
14:42Years ago, school mornings were like a crazy thing because some mothers were off to work
14:47and some mothers were getting kids ready for school and some kids were getting themselves
14:50ready for school.
14:51School.
14:52School.
14:53School.
14:54School.
14:55School.
14:56School.
14:57School.
14:58All right.
14:59Come on.
15:00You got to eat.
15:01You got everything, Gabe?
15:02Yes.
15:04You want breakfast for you?
15:06Yes.
15:07This is pretty much how it goes.
15:10I really wasn't that involved with getting planned ready for school.
15:14I was at work.
15:15It was bittersweet.
15:16The Lehigh experience, it was, it was really special.
15:33Yeah, there we go.
15:34We just, we just killed that turkey right there.
15:38There's this strange thing that Robin and I were in plural marriage together.
15:43It all came together and they all just left.
15:46Like, we're monogamous, but we didn't choose that.
15:49It was kind of chosen for us when Cody's exes left.
15:54I did not choose monogamy for Robin because I chose me.
16:02Like, I didn't have a relationship with Cody and I barely had one with Robin.
16:07And I wasn't willing to do that just so she could say she lived polygamy.
16:12Okay.
16:13Go eat.
16:14Vitamins solved.
16:16It's definitely a different balance because he wasn't there all the time, you know?
16:20It was a couple times a week.
16:22The yellow and the green.
16:24Try not to spill, bud.
16:26I think because he had so many wives, he didn't have to check in the same way as you would as a monogamous.
16:32Okay, here's your school equipment too.
16:34I was very devoted to my family life, but now I'm embedded in my family life.
16:41He's putting his, his phone in his pocket.
16:44Oh, Saul.
16:47It's not good for your body.
16:49You know, with plural marriage, you'd think you would need more accountability.
16:53But I think I'm being held more accountable now with Robin.
17:00I love you.
17:01I love you.
17:02Bye, Mom.
17:03Bye, have a good day.
17:04I'm now in a different marriage than I've ever been in.
17:08Good morning.
17:09You ready to go?
17:11Losing a wife in our religion was sort of a walk of shame.
17:17Are you going to smile?
17:19There we go.
17:20I've been concerned that somehow or another I'm diminished in Robin's eyes.
17:26Because we haven't had an easy three years going through all of this.
17:30Did you get all the bags?
17:31See you, Erica.
17:32Her bags?
17:33Got it all.
17:34I've had family members ask me if we're, if Cody and I are going to live plural marriage
17:39again.
17:40Do you want to watch us drive off and wave?
17:44Yes.
17:45So there's been some conversations about that from family.
17:49Some pressure, a little bit too.
17:51You know, are you going to live plural marriage again and bring somebody else into the family?
17:56Put your seatbelt on.
17:58And it's a very personal thing because it's such a big decision.
18:02And I'm not sure what's going to happen.
18:04Jen decided it would be a really good idea to do some practice speed dating.
18:17Hi, I see your name is Mary.
18:19Wow, that's spelled weird.
18:20My name is Bob.
18:21I spell it with two O's.
18:24Nice to meet you.
18:34Yes, I can.
18:35We'll do a redo.
18:36No, there's no redo.
18:38So we're kind of really celebrating North Carolina and the property.
18:42And so everybody's out.
18:43Aspen and Mitch are here.
18:45Christina and David are here.
18:46My sister and her husband are here.
18:48Peyton is here.
18:49But we're going to also go distance.
18:51There's no distance?
18:52I can't go distance.
18:53No, we said that it's a race.
18:55Maddie's been actually training to run a marathon.
18:57So I think she was talking about it.
18:59And I think David in his true fashion is like, well, I could run a marathon.
19:02He's charming, but he definitely has an ego.
19:04But he's going to pull a hamstring.
19:05Hey, you're an endurance racer.
19:07Kate!
19:08I'm like a cheetah.
19:10Do you think this is like Maddie challenging you?
19:12Do you think this is like a rite of passage?
19:14I don't know if it's a rite of passage.
19:17I think that if it was going to be a shorter distance, David would win.
19:22David is not going to win this.
19:24On your mark.
19:25You're set.
19:26Go!
19:27Go, Maddie!
19:28Maddie!
19:29Maddie!
19:30Maddie!
19:31No, Maddie!
19:32You got to run faster!
19:33What?
19:34Faster, Maddie!
19:35Faster!
19:36Maddie!
19:37Yeah!
19:38Yeah!
19:39Yeah!
19:40Nice.
19:41That was fun.
19:42David!
19:43I think David won, though.
19:44That was a bit surprising.
19:45What I love is that you can tell he really loves Christine, and Christine is so happy.
19:50I mean, Cody always had such a big personality and such a big presence, right?
19:54David is the same.
19:55He's got a big personality.
19:56He's full of bluster.
19:58He's kind of like, I can do it.
20:00I can do it better.
20:01Like, all that.
20:02Like, I mean, he's just that guy.
20:04I think David's confident.
20:06Cody is very confident as well.
20:08He's confident.
20:09That's funny.
20:11I've always preferred someone who's a little bit, like, very confident.
20:15Do you guys want to see the map?
20:18We have an aerial map of the property that we're going to go look at.
20:21I have been here for literally more than a day, and you have not mentioned an aerial map?
20:26I have wanted property, our farm, the rural life, since I was a little kid.
20:34So Maddie, Caleb, and I bought 156 acres in North Carolina about 30 minutes from their existing house.
20:40It's very rural, totally undeveloped, covered with trees.
20:44I gotta unroll it and then roll it the other way.
20:48So we have two projects, really, on this property.
20:51We need to get our houses built, and we need to get the farm area cleared.
20:58Gotta have a barn, gotta have a place for the chickens, gotta have a garden, all that.
21:02So this is where we want to put the flower farm, here.
21:06So where would your home be, and then the business again?
21:09So we're gonna put the home here.
21:10This is where it perked for septic.
21:12Okay.
21:13So you're gonna have a road.
21:14What are you gonna call it?
21:15Like this road.
21:16What are you gonna call that road?
21:17Caleb said, why don't we call it Bob Boulevard?
21:19Bob Boulevard, yeah!
21:21That's funny.
21:22I like that.
21:23That's a good name.
21:24Garrison's first name is Robert.
21:26So he would be referred to as, like, Uncle Bob.
21:30They all have their little nicknames.
21:32Garrison says Bob.
21:33Garrison's always in our thoughts, right?
21:35And we will definitely probably have a part of the flower garden that's really more of a memorial to him and to Bob's Floral, his Hawaiian shirt shop.
21:44We'd like to do a flower garden area, like a monument, like a quiet garden that's, like, dedicated to people who struggle with mental health and lost their battles with mental health.
21:54Yes!
21:55He'll always be here.
21:56He will be represented here for sure on this property.
21:59So when we get here, and, like, you get checked in, and I just, like...
22:12You're gonna have to totally not sit where I can see you.
22:18I have said for a long time I would really, really, really love to meet somebody organically, and this is probably almost as organic as I'm gonna get.
22:26Salt Lake City speed dating event is where it's at for me.
22:31I might say otherwise at the end of the night, though.
22:34We'll see.
22:35You're gonna get there in my head.
22:37You're gonna, like, sign your name in, get your little name badge.
22:40These guys will just deer in headlights, and they're going to have to make you interested enough in a short amount of time to, like, know that this is what you want to do.
22:54So, like, what if they sit down and they don't know what to say?
23:00What if they sit down and they just, like, stare at you?
23:03Jen decided it would be a really good idea to do some practice speed dating.
23:09Hey, Mary.
23:12I'm Edward.
23:13Hey, Edward.
23:15See me match.
23:16I did.
23:17Yeah, you match that energy and that voice.
23:19I can totally match that energy.
23:21Okay.
23:22Tell me a little about yourself.
23:23I'm 54.
23:24Yeah.
23:25Single.
23:26Uh-huh.
23:27Ready to mingle?
23:28Ready to mingle.
23:29Like it.
23:30Hi.
23:31I see your name is Mary.
23:32Wow, that's spelled weird.
23:33My name is Bob.
23:34I spell it with two O's.
23:36My son.
23:38Hi, boo.
23:40Hi, Mary.
23:42Hi, Mary.
23:43My name is Thomas.
23:45Hi, Thomas.
23:46This is something I've never done before.
23:48What about you?
23:49I've done this a lot.
23:50I'm actually on my fourth wife.
23:51Okay.
23:52Not at the same time.
23:53Oh, hold on.
23:54Uh-huh.
23:55At what point in the conversation do I say, oh, by the way, I have been divorced from
24:02a man who had four wives, but my family has 18 children and I only have one.
24:08Like, would you actually tell somebody on a six-minute date?
24:11I don't know.
24:12That would take up the whole six minutes.
24:14I don't know.
24:15There was a guy that I was talking to.
24:17He found out who I was.
24:20And he was like, I just, I can't.
24:23Like, I can't continue talking to you.
24:27This is not something that I'm even interested in or open to.
24:34And it was very hurtful to me.
24:37Because I was a polygamist, you're not interested in pursuing a relationship with me.
24:43First date is not a, I was a polygamist, third wife.
24:52You know, you don't go into that on a first date.
24:54That's too much information.
24:56That date will be over and you will never get a second date.
24:58Been there, done that.
24:59If I were to ever have another relationship, it's going to be somebody that I know for a
25:04while.
25:05And they'll know.
25:06Because, you know, it's not a big, not a big secret.
25:10It was like my first real big realization that that's going to inhibit some people from
25:20even wanting to start talking to me.
25:23In my brain, there's something I want maybe more than you do.
25:36But I...
25:37Oh, you're talking about sex?
25:38Yeah.
25:39A polygamist is getting more than he wants and a monogamist isn't getting enough.
25:44It won't be really tall grass here in a minute.
25:49We definitely envision this property as a gathering place.
25:54Woo!
25:55Hopefully we can put some small little cabins eventually for everybody to stay in or whatever.
26:00But in general, we want it to be a gathering place.
26:03I'm doing it.
26:04Janelle would love to have, you know, this be where the whole family gathers.
26:12Absolutely.
26:13I also want my house to be the place where everybody gathers.
26:16Just saying we could have, like, some sort of a gang war kind of between Janelle and I
26:20a little bit.
26:21Like, who's going to get more people?
26:23She's winning right now, by the way.
26:25This is exciting for Maddie, Caleb, and Janelle.
26:29It seems like a lot of work.
26:32But I am excited for them.
26:34And it's all of their dream.
26:36So it's perfect.
26:37There is nothing in North Carolina that I'm even interested in.
26:42No.
26:44This is raw land.
26:45There's really nothing appealing here.
26:47Christine is not a homesteader.
26:49She just wants to live in her very comfortable house in the suburbs.
26:53Look, I'm not trying to compete about who gathers where the most.
26:58I feel like having a really great place that is big enough to accommodate all of us.
27:04That's the goal, is to find a space that we can all hang out that's big enough,
27:07where, wherever that is.
27:11Woo!
27:13Cheers to the dream and cowboying the .
27:16Say cheers to the dream.
27:17Cheers!
27:18We're just going to cowboy the .
27:20It's the attitude of just we're going to figure it out as we go.
27:22So, Steven said we can pile it all up and do, like, big, huge fires.
27:26Oh, yeah.
27:27Like that one over there.
27:28Aspen and I think we should invite all the siblings and recreate that photo of Garrison.
27:32Like, with maniacal eyes.
27:33Yes!
27:35Garrison loved fire.
27:37There's this picture, and they're all kind of around this bonfire, and there's this Garrison standing in front of it.
27:47And he is just excited.
27:49You can tell on his face.
27:50So, I think they were laughing about trying to recreate that one.
27:53Rob and I are going out to dinner tonight.
28:09It's always a good experience for us.
28:11It's always a good time for us to be able to have a conversation and talk.
28:15Will you cut that up for me?
28:16How did you do that?
28:17That's a pretty hard cheat.
28:18Let me use your knife, because I was licking mine.
28:19All right.
28:20I'm okay with your licking.
28:21Oh, that sounded bad.
28:22I just had a lot of fun with what you just said in my head, but I want to be a gentleman and not a...
28:27Yeah, I know, right?
28:28Be a gentleman.
28:29Just kidding.
28:30Are you okay with my licking?
28:31You're okay with my licking?
28:32No.
28:33No.
28:34No.
28:35No.
28:36No.
28:37No.
28:38No.
28:39No.
28:40No.
28:41No.
28:42No.
28:43No.
28:44No.
28:45No.
28:46No.
28:47No.
28:48No.
28:49No.
28:50No.
28:51You can lick.
28:52You'll lick the rest of it.
28:53You're teasing me.
28:54No, no, no.
28:55There's still a little bit right there.
29:00Well, that's fun to tease you.
29:01You get cute.
29:02You got all shy.
29:03You get shy.
29:04Cody's a lot more showy, even in front of the kids.
29:09And I'm like, whoa.
29:11And I come across sometimes as snobby, but I'm actually just shy.
29:15So a relative asked you if we were still into plural marriage.
29:22Well, just if we were going to live it anymore.
29:25Kind of a thing.
29:26What would you say?
29:27I don't know.
29:28Really?
29:29I don't know.
29:30I wasn't quite sure what to say to him.
29:34I didn't want to speak for you.
29:39I feel like if this is still something that's a part of me, then wouldn't I live it?
29:46Cody and I never chose to live monogamy.
29:50It's definitely not something I ever would have chosen for myself.
29:57You turned down qualified, worthy individuals for marriage because they weren't going to live plural marriage.
30:07That's true.
30:08I had marriage proposals.
30:10I had people I dated.
30:11I could have lived monogamy just fine.
30:14Just some guys, different men in different times, said, you know, I'd marry you in a heartbeat.
30:21You know, we were friends.
30:23You know, a little bit of, you know, like talking and hanging out and, you know, maybe with our kids together kind of a thing.
30:31And I was just like, well, I plan to live plural marriage.
30:34And, you know, each one of them at different times was like, that's not something I want to do.
30:41Like, listen, if I'd have been pursuing you and I didn't have other wives, how would you have treated it?
30:46I would have said the same thing to you.
30:48I wouldn't have even been open to him.
30:50Do you see a value in it for us and our future in any way?
30:54I don't know what space Robin is in and I don't know what space we'll be in in two or three years.
31:04I almost feel like turning the table and saying, well, do you want to get back in plural marriage?
31:11There was somebody who was really supportive and really wanted to work and really wanted a relationship with me as well as with you, not just you.
31:19And then we had a guarantee that it was going to be OK and it was going to be wonderful and it was going to be what I always dreamed it was supposed to be.
31:30That would be something to really, truly consider.
31:32I think you and I share something very special.
31:51But if it's not duplicatable, it could put us at risk.
31:55You got to think about this.
31:56Come on, there's something wonderful here, right here.
31:58Well, yeah.
31:59Yeah, there is.
32:00Why would we put that at risk?
32:02Yeah, you're right.
32:03For anything other than?
32:05I guarantee.
32:06And that's the only reason.
32:07It's not possible.
32:09Why would we put that at risk?
32:10Anything other than in my brain, there's something I want maybe more than you do.
32:15What?
32:17What do you mean?
32:18I don't want to talk about that subject, but I.
32:19Oh, you're talking about sex?
32:20Yeah, I'm not.
32:21Oh.
32:22My primary motivation, I'm afraid at this state in my life.
32:23Yeah.
32:25Would be, yeah, just how good looking she is.
32:41I'm not kidding.
32:42And that would be the very worst reason.
32:44Well, I'd still want to be able to connect.
32:47So, you don't understand how you're coming across.
32:50I know.
32:51I know I'm a guy.
32:52And I don't, I don't, I don't freaking care.
32:54No.
32:55Okay, you're just kind of being a bit of a pig right now.
33:03I'm being crass here for a reason.
33:05I'm saying, yeah, she looks hot, and that would make me want to talk to her.
33:11But I'm not interested in marrying her, because that won't matter when I'm getting nagged.
33:22For me, I'm like, okay, well, so you have the real relationship with me, but then she's just, what, a concubine, because that's pretty much what that is.
33:28It should be more than that, for sure.
33:31Most women want commitment.
33:32They want love.
33:33They want tenderness.
33:34They want companionship.
33:35They want, um, honesty and depth and emotional intimacy.
33:41You're saying you would never put this at risk, but you're saying the only reason why you would do it is for, is for...
33:50But that's not a good enough reason.
33:52Okay.
33:53Right.
33:54Like, whoa.
33:55My point is, it's not a good enough reason.
33:59Agreed.
34:00He's always had this, uh, surplus, if you will, of intimate relationships.
34:09Uh, there's a fear that, um, like, he doesn't know what to expect, as far as monogamy is concerned.
34:17And I'm looking at him going, dude, we've never had trouble here before.
34:22Why would we have trouble now?
34:24A polygamist is getting more than he wants, and a monogamist isn't getting enough.
34:29I don't mean to be salacious here, but we failed already.
34:36We, it was very, very painful.
34:39So, if I was to ever try this again, she would have to be an absolute diamond.
34:47And I'm not talking about just looks.
34:50I'm talking about the kind of devotion to us, to Robin, that I would never, and I mean,
34:58I'll, I'm getting really honest with you here.
35:00Just take the sex out completely.
35:02She would have to adore Robin so much that I would never, ever have to worry about whether
35:09she was competing with Robin for my love and affection.
35:15And, and how would it work?
35:16We're not involved in a, in religion anymore.
35:18Yeah.
35:19That would be a requirement, is to have a proper authority to perform the marriage.
35:24It would, I, it would create a lot of worry and stress for me that the person coming in,
35:29a possible wife coming in, would not take it as seriously.
35:33I would be concerned that Cody wouldn't take it as seriously.
35:36I'd just be constantly be worried that it just all fall apart and our whole lives would turn into crap again.
35:43I'm just not interested in having the drama in my life of another woman.
35:56Are you and I enduring our marriage?
35:58No.
35:59No.
36:00No.
36:01I mean, we have our bad days.
36:02Rawr, rawr.
36:03You know, our murder face comes out and it's like, stop that.
36:05Okay.
36:06You're okay knowing that all the attention I need.
36:13Those sister witches of yours.
36:19Hey, Cody.
36:20Now I'm a sister witch.
36:22Is that what he said?
36:23Sister witches?
36:24He's getting pretty creative there.
36:27Cody's confidence level comes from calling people names.
36:30I'll own that title.
36:32Absolutely.
36:33I'm a sister witch.
36:34You bet.
36:35You could be my cheerleader?
36:38You know I am.
36:39Then we're great.
36:40Rooting for you.
36:42The problem I see in plural marriage is that I don't think those two ladies can get along once I'm in both of their beds.
36:57Robin was welcomed by the family.
37:02And when her and I went on our honeymoon, it felt like it changed.
37:06And it wasn't fair to her.
37:08And I'm not saying it was fair to them.
37:10It's just the lifestyle we all chose.
37:13Deal with it.
37:14Well, we dealt with it.
37:16They're gone.
37:17She's here.
37:18I'm moving on.
37:19I'm a monogamous.
37:20And it pisses me off when people ask me why I want to be a monogamous still.
37:24So didn't you see the mess?
37:26I'm done.
37:29Robin, I'm done.
37:32Because the idea of it just breaks my heart.
37:35So it's you and me, baby.
37:37Monogamy, does it work for you?
37:39Will it work for you?
37:41Sounds good.
37:43No, no, no.
37:44No, no, no.
37:45It sounds good.
37:47I'm good.
37:48I'm good.
37:49I'm good.
37:50I'm good.
37:51I'm good.
37:52I'm good.
37:53Okay.
37:54It's a deal.
37:55It's a deal.
37:56It's a deal.
37:57It is hard to say this.
38:07It is hard.
38:08It was hard when we were there at dinner.
38:11It's hard to say it now.
38:13It's hard to say it.
38:14It goes against some things in me, some like deep parts of myself.
38:21And it's a challenge to kind of just really say I'm done with plural marriage.
38:27And I don't know.
38:28It's confusing.
38:29And I'm still wondering, still asking those questions, looking for the answers.
38:48You can feel free to have a, grab a coffee or a water, and then we'll get started here
38:54in like 10 minutes.
38:55Break a leg, bro.
38:56Break a leg, bro.
38:57Break a leg.
38:58You got this.
38:59It's going to be awesome.
39:00The last couple of years, I feel like I've really just kind of embraced, like, let's
39:05just do all the things.
39:07Just say yes.
39:09Just do all the things.
39:10Just have fun.
39:11Experience life.
39:13So that's what I'm doing.
39:15Write your date's name on the card.
39:17And if there's any comments that you want to write about them.
39:20Whatever will help you kind of remember who they are.
39:22I don't know what types of men are going to be here.
39:25I don't know if, you know, they're just, I just have no idea what to expect.
39:37This season on Sister Wives.
39:40I got another one of those emails from some woman, asking sort of like to get to know
39:45us for the purpose of joining the family.
39:47You and Cody could hang out.
39:52Yeah.
39:53We talked about the spiritual divorce, and I think I'm ready.
40:07I love that you're doing this, Janelle.
40:09What's coming for you?
40:15Cody called.
40:16He said that somebody wants a couple pieces of the property.
40:19Does your money ever go into his hands?
40:21It better not go through his hands.
40:23Yeah.
40:24We're going to close on Coyote Pass soon.
40:27This is bull .
40:28I'm not selling this land until everything is perfectly fair, and we do this the right
40:32way.
40:33Sorry.
40:34It's a standoff at the Coyote Pass final showdown.
40:44I would love healing with Mary.
40:46I would love healing with Janelle.
40:48I would love healing with Christine.
40:50I don't want to talk to Cody ever again.
40:55How much longer until you just realize that he's an ass?
41:00Well, he wants to see me.
41:02I really want to tell him that we'll never be friends.
41:06I wanted to apologize with all my heart.
41:11I said I didn't love you.
41:14That wasn't true.
41:16Is there any part of you that would ever go back to Cody?
41:21I'm not trying to make us back together in any way, Mary.
41:25We are never, ever, ever getting back together.
41:31Listen, I have this wife.
41:33Her name is Robin.
41:34And she would never let me do anything naughty.
41:38As bad as I want to do it.
41:40Ha ha ha.
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