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Crypto Negativity Has Much More to Run: 3-Minutes MLIV
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Mark, we're just talking to Tom there about the tech sell-off that we're seeing globally.
00:04
Are there macro implications for this? Of course. I mean, I think AI is the biggest macro theme in
00:13
the world at the moment and will be the case for some time. As you know, Kritia, I'm in the camp
00:18
that we are in an AI capex bubble, but that this is not the bursting of it. You know, at some point
00:23
before the ultimate bursting, we go to a more volatile stage. Maybe we've entered that, but I
00:27
think even that's debatable at the moment. This sell-off is barely a flesh wound, to put it in
00:32
terms of Monty Python at this stage. We haven't seen anything too dramatic. In fact, the price
00:36
action today was quite impressive. I do think over the coming months that we're seeing that
00:41
circularity of some of these investments, the fact that the really strong earnings from names like
00:46
Amazon and Alphabet are partially bolstered by billions by the increased valuations of their
00:50
investments of other AI names. The circularity is getting really problematic. We've seen some really
00:55
worrying kind of investments and behavior and promises on the data center side from some of
01:02
these AI names, from these kind of meme stocks, from these momentum stocks. So we're in that more
01:06
frothy stage. So maybe we're getting into more volatile stage. I don't think we're close to the
01:09
ultimate bursting yet. And certainly the price action wasn't too dramatic yet. So maybe we could
01:14
see another couple of percent here. But I expect people ultimately to buy this dip for now.
01:17
Yeah. Given how much some people cling to those AI bets, Mark, and how much passion they have,
01:24
maybe the Holy Grail reference is very relevant. Let me ask you about crypto, which also might be
01:29
relevant to this conversation. Really interesting trading through October, dropping for one reason,
01:33
and then the early part of November dropping for what seems to be a different reason,
01:37
even if actually this morning it's a little bit stronger. What's happening with crypto?
01:40
Yeah, it's really interesting to note that Bitcoin today is trading below its one-year average. It's
01:48
365-day moving average. So, you know, the average purchase of Bitcoin over the past year is offside,
01:53
given there were one year from Trump's election victory. That's quite interesting. So therefore,
01:57
Bitcoin's been actually one of the worst trades of the Trump presidency. And given that he was meant
02:03
to be the big crypto backer, I think that might change the narrative there. The aspect of why that's
02:07
going to be fueled in the downside is digital asset treasury companies are having real problems. And I think
02:12
there's a lot more outflows to come there. So I think we are in a sustained crypto downwave. Bitcoin's
02:18
constructed to have repeated boom-bust cycles. That's how it works. It can't work when it's stable at high
02:23
prices. So it's hard to know. I think it's six 70% plus corrections over at 17 horizon. We're overdue another
02:28
one. I think we're probably in the next, the start of the next 70% plus correction in Bitcoin, and that'll drag the
02:34
whole crypto sector lower. That'll weigh on retail sentiment. It will be kind of, but it's not, it
02:40
doesn't have a direct kind of feed through to the broader market. Sure, it's going to hurt some of
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these meme stocks. It's going to hurt some of these marginal momentum names. It's going to be slightly
02:48
bad for the tech sector. But ultimately, there are real solid names at the core of the tech business.
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And that's really kind of marginal froth. It hurts the retail index, and that will eventually field into a wealth
02:58
effect on the economy. All these problems are growing. And that's why I think the AI bubble will burst next year.
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But crypto won't be kind of coincide with the collapse of the AI bubble. Crypto will probably collapse
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first AI a few months later.
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