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Bubbles Pop Rather Than Crack: 3-Minutes MLIV
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Probably more excited though by the fact that gold is through 4,000. Mark, what's next?
00:07
I am excited by gold. I'm excited about what's happening on the stock side. I'm also excited
00:11
what's happening on the French side at the moment. I think there's a little bit of nervousness
00:16
creeping into the market. Not on the gold side, clearly. That's one of the most consensus
00:21
trades out there. Anecdotally, I'm hiring at the moment. Whenever I interview any candidate,
00:26
their top trade seems to be bullish gold. So it's definitely completely consensus out there.
00:31
But I get why. We're seeing a debasement trade. We're seeing an underminement of fiat currency.
00:37
We're seeing an attack on institutional credibility. I can see why gold is such a popular trade.
00:43
When it's so consensus, it's a little bit worrying, but it's hard to fight against it.
00:47
On the flip side, what I think is probably where there is nervousness in markets is back to the idea
00:52
of fiscal concerns. I think we've had France and Japan in the radar this week. France will stay on
00:59
the radar today, very much so. Yes, so fiscal concerns. We're also concerned about the tech
01:05
sector. At least in the last 24 hours, Mark, we've rediscovered our concerns around valuation,
01:11
around ballooning AI spending, the circularity of some of the deals being announced. Is there
01:16
anything new in this? Any cracks that you think could sort of linger in the market psyche?
01:24
It's a very hard one. I think it's very tempting for people for the last few months to go,
01:31
hey, these stocks are overvalued and it's a bubble. And I think we all have been talking about that for
01:36
months and we know that. Just where we are on this bubble? Where are we on this parabola of kind
01:42
of gains? I am still worried that we're kind of at the, I won't say early, but we're on the way up.
01:48
Now, on the way up in bubbles, you sometimes get increasing volatility. That doesn't mean it's a
01:52
straight line-up. But I'm not sure that we're going to see the catalyst just yet to pop this bubble.
01:58
I think we only see that when we start getting realisation that we just won't get the revenues to
02:03
justify the incredible capex. And that might be a quarter to our way. But maybe what we're seeing on the
02:08
sentiment change, what we're seeing in terms of what Oracle said overnight, what we're seeing in terms of
02:13
the circularity stories of all these big AI-themed companies all investing in each other, is that
02:18
we're going into the more volatile stage. So it's the latter stage of the bubble, perhaps. It's the
02:22
beginning of the end rather than the end of the beginning. Have I got that the right way around?
02:27
But, Mark, as stocks start to stutter, as gold tops $4,000 a troy ounce, you say there could be a case for a year-end
02:35
dollar rally? Yeah, very much so. And I think this is one of the things, even gold is the most
02:43
consensus trade, and I completely get why. I am loathe to jump on the gold bandwagon here at these
02:49
levels because, obviously, the two biggest dynamics going into the kind of marginal gold value are real
02:55
yields and the dollar. And I do think the dollar is ripe for a bit of a year-end rally, mainly because
03:01
its main competitors around the world are all being undermined. That's the euro, that's the yen,
03:06
Canadian dollar. So all these key currencies, there's fresh bearish reasons. So the dollar will rally by
03:11
default rather than its own strengths.
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