00:00And now the Dolphins are up against elimination this week.
00:02One more loss the rest of the season and they're out.
00:06Even again, it's kind of a long shot.
00:07I need a lot of teams to lose.
00:09The Colts definitely got to lose once everybody else loses.
00:13But, you know, first they got to win all their games, which is already a big task.
00:17Who the hell knows what is more likely?
00:22Colts losing to the Dolphins winning to.
00:26Well, they can't lose, they can't lose even one.
00:29They got to win all three just in general.
00:32Colts losing to well, they only got to lose one.
00:35The Colts have the same record as the Dolphins.
00:39OK, so they got one out of three.
00:42I think Dolphins can win out.
00:43Yes, I do believe that, even though.
00:48We've said that.
00:50The last three weeks.
00:52Mm hmm.
00:54No, I can say that we knew they were going to lose to the Texans.
00:56We talked about it.
00:59I mean, yeah, Texans, Houston, Texas.
01:00Yeah, history.
01:01I, I actually I'm not sure how to feel this way.
01:05I mean, I know that San Francisco is very banged up, but I also.
01:09You know, I don't know how much I don't know
01:11really how good the Dolphins are right now, like their their line is in tatters.
01:15They're probably going to bench Eichenberg this week.
01:17Thank God.
01:19For who?
01:21Probably if I would say they probably they're going to start.
01:25They got an undrafted rookie, Andrew Meyer, who they haven't played yet.
01:28Right.
01:29So they could go with him.
01:30They could put Rob Jones over at right and then put win at left.
01:34But Eichenberg sucks, dude.
01:36I mean, like he's and even he said he's like he said he wasn't like,
01:40I guess he was asked by reporters yesterday about if he is going to get bench.
01:43He goes, I'm not even sure right now.
01:45Obviously, the last game didn't go as planned.
01:47I mean, over the last four years,
01:49there are certain things I can control and obviously I didn't play well enough.
01:53They want me to be out there.
01:54I'll be out there.
01:54If not, it is what it is.
01:56I'll just keep working.
01:59Eichenberg right now is from the Miami Herald.
02:01Among the seventy five qualifying guards.
02:06I don't want to know.
02:07He ranks 70th.
02:1270th still might be our best lineman available.
02:1570th still might be our best lineman available.
02:18Chris Greer laughed in our face.
02:21Yeah, he has a guy who's seven years with you.
02:25Seventy like, oh, that's fine.
02:27And like, we can keep going to that.
02:30But the fact of the matter is you are where you are now.
02:33Just deal with it. Right.
02:35My question is.
02:37Is if they kept putting Eichenberg out there
02:41and here's how I think.
02:46Everybody in that building wants to win.
02:49Eichenberg is their best option.
02:52So if it's gotten to the point.
02:54Where they're going to put somebody else in there.
02:59I'm a go out on a limb and say
03:02they never really thought that guy was better than Eichenberg.
03:07Otherwise, he would have been there a long time ago,
03:09unless he's returning from injury.
03:13Well, when is returning from injury?
03:15When when kind of I think he was active two weeks ago
03:18is when he got back from his quad.
03:19So he was you understand what I'm saying?
03:22Like it like when people say, oh, why is that guy out there?
03:29He's out there because of all the options that they could put out there.
03:32That's the best option.
03:33Doesn't mean it's great.
03:36Dude, I can't.
03:37I have a hard time believing that there's any organization or coach
03:41or GM or whatever that say, we know this guy is better,
03:44but we're going to put the other guy out there.
03:46Guys get guys get more chances because of their draft status all the time.
03:50But. You can still justify that guy being better.
03:57I don't know of an organization that will put a guy out there
04:02or not put a guy out there that firmly believes he's better than the other guy.
04:07Yeah, we saw Storm Duck undrafted play above Cam Smith second round
04:11for a long time.
04:12And guess what?
04:14Cam was mostly got questions about, but Cam was mostly banged up, though.
04:17Like Cam came out of he came out of camp with a bad hamstring injury.
04:21Then he had a shoulder injury.
04:22So like there are there are qualifiers there as well.
04:25Like you didn't.
04:25And again, I said that.
04:27Hmm. But but in the long run, you think Cam Smith's
04:31going to be better than Storm Duck?
04:32No, no, not at all.
04:34No, don't care about injury.
04:35Don't care about nothing because there's the old.
04:38We're going to hold him a couple of more weeks to make sure he's healthy bit.
04:43Right. I'm familiar with that.
04:46That means that we're not going to embarrass you
04:47by starting an undrafted rookie ahead of you.
04:50That's what that means.
04:52Now, I don't know that to be the case, but I'm saying there's work.
04:55There's verbiage that can be used.
04:58To make you think what?
05:02They want you to think.
05:04Now, the Eichenberg thing.
05:07I've always said this, right?
05:10As much as you say, Eichenberg sucks.
05:13He does his best available.
05:15And that's fine. Right.
05:17And so my whole question, my whole issue with this
05:21the whole time has not been about Eichenberg.
05:26It has been about the fact that you dismiss
05:30the need to have an offensive line.
05:33I'm not this quality offensive line.
05:35Are you talking about the dolphins?
05:36We're talking about the dolphins, not you.
05:38It's ego. It's ego.
05:40It's Chris Cruz ego.
05:41He barely he barely he very, very clearly came into this
05:46season with an element of hubris that I have put together the offensive line.
05:51That's why he told everybody I'm laughing at your concerns.
05:55When everybody has watched this guy, he's tried to stuff him down our throats
05:59for the last four years, putting him at five different positions.
06:02He sucked at every one of them.
06:04The season went down the drain last year when the season went down
06:07the drain last year when we tried putting him at center.
06:10They tried to put his ass at center.
06:11And then all of a sudden, the whole line's getting pushed back this year.
06:15What happens? Oh, the team can't run anymore.
06:17Shocking. Eichenberg, worst lineman in the league.
06:20You know how bad it is.
06:21Seventy five linemen.
06:22He's 70th and he's never been thought of.
06:25No one's thought to bench him. Nobody.
06:27You know why?
06:28Because the guy playing behind him might be 84th.
06:30Get out of here doing this.
06:33You don't like Tobin.
06:35Here's Tobin.
06:37Please understand this.
06:38When I tell you, stop acting like every player that sucks on your team.
06:44There's a better one on the bench.
06:46Come on, dude.
06:47There's not a better guy.
06:48That's why I mean, you never know unless you try.
06:51You never know unless you try.
06:53You want to call me like that?
06:55Where would the Hebrews throw people in there?
06:58Where would the Heat be if they kept with that logic with Terry Rozier?
07:00You never would have found Drew Smith.
07:02They knew Drew Smith.
07:04They had Drew Smith before here.
07:07Well, they did have him before.
07:08But he didn't get his chance until he got his chance.
07:10Basketball is different.
07:13Basketball, you could get blown out.
07:15You could throw somebody in there, right?
07:17And see some shine.
07:19Football doesn't operate like that.
07:21It does at that position.
07:23Okay, but why?
07:25I guess that's my question.
07:26Can I just say the linebacker lost his job.
07:29The running back lost his job.
07:31Receivers have lost their job.
07:33Why is the lineman any different?
07:35Because offensive line, believe it or not.
07:39They work on continuity more than any other group on the field.
07:44Is a continuity of awful.
07:46No.
07:47All right.
07:48I give I give I give like it is what it is.
07:52I'm trying to explain to you why it is.
07:54But for some reason, you logically, you can't accept that.
07:59If he's the best you have, that's who plays.
08:04The problem is that he's the best you have.
08:06I'll accept that.
08:07And I'll take my Lickins on Monday.
08:08If the Dolphins continue to get blown up.
08:11And if you go, I will take my Lickins on Monday.
08:16If the Dolphins continue to get blown up inside, if he's benched.
08:19However, however, however, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
08:22I want gotten to the point where he's so bad that now your theory takes.
08:29Makes sense.
08:30My theory has been the theory since he's been drafted.
08:32Okay.
08:32All right.
08:33My theory has been the theory.
08:35Okay.
08:35I don't want to.
08:36I'm not going to, I'm not some Johnny come lately.
08:37I can Berg sucks.
08:38No, but I'm the president, but you do realize that the sentiment of the guys
08:45who actually make those decisions, weren't the same as yours two years ago.
08:49But their sentiment is stupid.
08:50Their sentiment.
08:51This is why aren't you coaching this?
08:54Why do you act like everybody who makes football decisions?
08:56Make smart decisions.
08:57We just, we've been making fun of the giants all year for letting
08:59go, let go of Saquon Barkley for the same thing, but with Tobin.
09:04The only reason why I said, this is a weird thing for you.
09:06This is a weird mountain for you to be on.
09:08I don't understand.
09:08Listen to me.
09:09I really don't.
09:10I have none of it makes sense.
09:12Understand this.
09:14I'm not saying that the decision to have, I can Berg in the game is good.
09:21A good option.
09:23But I'm saying that based on what they have on the roster, that's the best option.
09:29Understood.
09:30Here's the thing though.
09:31This is how they've treated him his entire career.
09:33Leroy.
09:34I can Berg.
09:35Can you be a left tackle?
09:37No, he sucks there.
09:38All right, let's try them at right.
09:39Tackle.
09:39Does he good there?
09:40Nah, left guard sucks there.
09:42Maybe he can snap.
09:43Nope.
09:44Let's try him at right guard.
09:45Nah, sucks there too.
09:47Like they've tried, they've tried your method.
09:49Cause they've thought, ah, there's something there maybe.
09:53And they've tried to, they've tried to put a square peg into a round hole.
09:57His whole career.
09:59Because they haven't had five healthy linemen since he's been here.
10:03That's why that's played out that way.
10:05Not because he's good enough to play.
10:06He's the only option.
10:11See the contrary to popular belief, coaches and GMs don't like winging it.
10:18Right?
10:19You just want to wing it.
10:21Just try somebody else.
10:23That is the one group on a football team.
10:27That works strictly off, mostly continuity.
10:31And the fact that you had so many players hurt the last two or three years,
10:36you've had guys in and out.
10:37It's made it impossible to do.
10:39And guess what?
10:40You ended up with Eichenberg playing three positions.
10:43Yeah.
10:43And he's gotten that.
10:44And he hasn't had that excuse this year.
10:46He's played the same position all year.
10:48Still terrible.
10:48My body was hurt.
10:50No Leroy.
10:50That was his starting job from the get go in training camp.
10:54He has been the right guard all year.
10:56Hasn't been moved and he's been among the worst in the league every single week.
11:03This was his last stop on the train.
11:05His contract is up.
11:06I hope he's never a Miami dolphin again.
11:08And I'm sure wherever he goes, he's going to become a three-time pro bowler.
11:11All that is great and perfect, but you want to make decisions without
11:18fully understanding that they might not have a better option, which
11:25leads us back to the point.
11:28I've been making all year.
11:31Is that how can you not in the NFL?
11:36Put a premium on offense and defensive lineman first, all the successful
11:42teams in NFL have done that.
11:45So I'm annoyed that we got even have this conversation because the
11:49conversation we should be having is why hasn't this team put more of a
11:54premium on offense and defensive line, all the other good teams have done.
12:00Fine.
12:00But the thing is like, you, you know, with this guy in particular, he
12:05legitimately by metrics by, by, by eye test, by all of it could not do worse.
12:11They had a guy get last week, started right tackle who had never played
12:16tackle and he played better than Eichenberg not much better, but he played better.
12:21Not much.
12:22Which which if you put the qualifier out there and say not much better.
12:30Then you shouldn't have too many questions.
12:31Why are you team struggled with two of the best pass rushers on in the
12:35league, right nightmare, right?
12:38It's this offensive line situation for the last two years.
12:44I won't even say two years because when when Hunt was here, they could
12:48run run the crap out of the ball.
12:50They really could.
12:51Okay, so the fact that there's certain positions on this team that they
13:00have treated like, oh, we can just go find another one.
13:03And now they're finding out that that's not the case.
13:08Maybe we should make like Woody Johnson and just look at Madden ratings.
13:12See that story.
13:13Well, guess what?
13:16Even with Madame ratings, Madden don't rate lineman.
13:20They don't only rate is the skill position.
13:21So technically that's how the dolphins are doing it.
13:24They don't they don't rate lineman.
13:26No, there's no names.
13:27All it is is the skill positions.
13:29I don't think that's true.
13:30I think they rate everything in Madden.
13:32Really?
13:34Really?
13:34I don't play video games.
13:35So nobody, nobody, nobody said I'm going to get the Philadelphia Eagles
13:39because Kelsey is rated 95.
13:43Dave South is saying they definitely rate lineman.
13:45I think they rate everybody dude.
13:46Okay.
13:47So who's using Madden ratings to build a team?
13:50Woody Johnson turned down Jerry Judy, who's having his best season
13:53and he turned him down because his kids told him his Madden rating
13:56wasn't high enough.
13:59You know what?
14:04Here's the deal.
14:07As a fan.
14:10When you get mad at the players and you get mad at the players,
14:17you get mad at some of the play you see on Sunday.
14:22And then you hear a story like this.
14:25What do you think as a fan?
14:26I'm curious.
14:28I'm literally curious to think that when you see an owner didn't
14:32want a player because of his Madden rating.
14:35What do you think?
14:38I had this.
14:38I had Jeffrey Lauria as the owner of the Marlins.
14:41Now, I have a broker Jeffrey Lauria, but it like but a less crazy one,
14:44but Jeffrey Lauria did this stuff all the time.
14:47Great.
14:47That's how we ended up with an 80 million dollar picture.
14:50We never pitched or we ended up with the GM as the manager.
14:54Oh my goodness.
14:57Who told us the winds are like the doughnuts.
15:00You like them so much.
15:00You want to keep eating them.
15:03They didn't eat many.
15:03They starved that year starved for what happened.
15:07No doughnuts.
15:08No, no wins.
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