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How Can the EU Agree on Climate Targets & Accelerate the Transition to Net Zero?
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7 weeks ago
CGT Europe spoke to Kaveh Guilanpour, Vice President for International Strategies at the Center for Climate and Energy Solutions.
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00:00
Kaveh Ghilampour is the Vice President for International Strategies at the Centre for Climate and Energy Solutions.
00:06
Welcome to the programme. Thanks so much for your time.
00:09
As a former climate negotiator, just how difficult is it for the EU to agree on these climate targets?
00:18
Well, thank you for inviting me.
00:19
Yes, it's going to be difficult, particularly as we get closer to that end date and goal of net zero emissions by 2050.
00:27
Things are going to get more difficult because much of the low-hanging fruit will have been harvested.
00:33
And, of course, to agree the climate target for 2035 in the so-called nationally determined contribution,
00:40
the EU will have to reach a consensus, so it's not going to be a majority vote.
00:44
So, obviously, that's going to be difficult, but I'm pretty confident that the EU will get there.
00:49
President von der Leyen made a commitment to that effect when she spoke at the UN General Assembly in September of this year.
00:55
And where is European climate leadership coming from?
01:01
Well, you've mentioned a number of countries there that are particularly keen to move forward,
01:06
but I think it's important that the ambition comes from the bloc as a whole
01:10
and that the bloc moves forward together as it has done in the past.
01:14
So, it's not surprising that there are going to be some difficulties around the details.
01:19
But I think that in law, the net zero emissions by 2050 is already there in law.
01:25
It's now about setting the pathway to achieve that.
01:28
So, I don't think it's about the direction of travel.
01:30
It's more about the details in particular sectors and certain aspects of how you would achieve those cuts on the way to net zero.
01:38
That's a very diplomatic answer, if I might say.
01:41
Which countries are dragging their feet?
01:44
Well, I think we'll have to wait for the report, but there's different countries have different priorities.
01:49
For example, Spain was one of the countries that really led the way in the European Union with a transition to renewable energy.
01:55
So, of course, Spain is very keen to push ahead with that.
01:58
There are others in the European Union that are still fossil fuel producers
02:02
and are leading the way globally on how to transition away in a just manner from fossil fuels to clean energy.
02:10
So, the European Union is really kind of a microcosm of the range of challenges that countries around the world are facing.
02:16
But the commitment towards moving towards net zero is definitely there.
02:20
It's more about how that is divided up and how the European Union plays its part in that transition.
02:26
You've got decades of experience in this field.
02:29
What are your expectations of the next conference, COP30?
02:36
Well, it's very important that the European Union does come forward with a target.
02:40
China has already done so and a number of other countries, but we're still far behind all 196 coming forward.
02:47
So, I think that's going to be important.
02:49
And then the conference will have to respond to the collective level of ambition.
02:53
We've seen in the recent UN report that it seems that global emissions have finally peaked and are starting to come down.
03:01
The question now is how do we accelerate that transition?
03:04
Because the transition is inevitable.
03:07
We will reach net zero emissions.
03:09
The question is how quickly will we do that and can we accelerate?
03:13
Kaveh Gilenpour, thanks so much for your time.
03:15
Hopefully, we'll speak after the COP.
03:17
Kaveh Gilenpour, Vice President for International Strategies at the Centre for Climate and Energy Solutions.
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Kaveh Gilenpour, Vice President for International Strategies at the Centre for Climate and Energy Solutions.
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