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00:00Kulay and Baliburnia.
00:01There's no other folk in this world
00:03but there's no other folk in this world.
00:06People in this world
00:07and we'll see them all.
00:09We'll see them all together.
00:24Now I'm heading down to Cork and Kerry.
00:27Places where the songs are part of the family.
00:30You don't learn them from a book.
00:32You hear them in kitchens, at wakes, in whispers.
00:36I want to meet the people who've kept that flame alive.
00:39Songs that have survived generations.
00:42I'm hoping they'll find a place in me too
00:44and that I can learn some songs
00:46that are rooted in this part of our gorgeous country.
00:50Well, thank you.
00:55I'm very happy to see you in the next year
00:58in the next year.
01:00And I'm not sure how it's been,
01:02but it's been a long time for a long time.
01:06It's been a long time for the past.
01:08The past year, the past year,
01:10the past year, the past year,
01:12the past year and the past year.
01:15I've been to the past year
01:17who is the best Cronin Fénig in the Lourdes of Gowné.
01:22She's a good friend to see her own family
01:28It's a gorgeous home isn't it?
01:31That's beautiful.
01:32I'm actually so looking forward to meeting Mauread
01:36because she is a founder of knowledge.
01:38So any questions you have Mauread will answer them.
01:41She's the woman.
01:43Hello, welcome. Thank you very much.
01:48Maread, your auntie was best grown and your granny.
01:53Yes indeed. So I'm here to ask you about her
01:58and the rest of the family and yourselves and also to have your gorgeous scones and your bread
02:03which the smell of is killing me, I need to get in.
02:07Will I pour? Or do.
02:10Thank you very much.
02:15Tell me about Bess. She was incredibly important for music in Ireland and songs.
02:22You see her son was in Dublin and he got to know Seamus Innes.
02:26And Seamus Innes was a collector of folklore so it moved from there.
02:31And I suppose had her son never been in Dublin, she may never have been heard of.
02:36There was something like 300 and something actual songs both Irish and English.
02:43Where did she learn that amount of songs and where did she pass them on?
02:46She said that when they were living in Ra, the place where they grew up, they had workmen.
02:54Ah.
02:55And some of the workmen had songs they used to sing.
02:58They were travelling workmen that used to go around from place to place and they used to sing.
03:04And she picked up a lot of her songs from them.
03:07And it was Seamus collected a huge amount of her stuff, would you say? Seamus Innes?
03:14Yes. And there was another guy called Brian George.
03:17And then there was Alan Lomax.
03:19Alan Lomax and Robert Roberts. They were from America.
03:23Alan Lomax was, like, for me that's a huge deal. He was documenting the best in the world, therefore, you know, she's up there with the best in the world.
03:35She's singing a lovely song called Lord Gregory.
03:39They had the words, but they never had got the air of it. Scotland or any of those places.
03:45It's amazing. You'd have different versions, wouldn't you, in different places, but none of them had the air of the Lord Gregory.
03:52And Beth did?
03:53She had it, and they were thrilled just to have that.
03:56And to have two CDs with her voice on it, and, like, at 70 plus years, it's amazing, because her voice still had stayed lovely and sweet.
04:08I am my king, the daughter, the rest of it from Capa Queen.
04:15In search of Lord Gregory, my God, I coined him.
04:21The rain beats at night, the locks on, the jewels me still.
04:27The baby's cold in my arms, and let me in.
04:33Come saddle me the black horse, the brown or the bay.
04:40Come saddle me the best horse from your stable estate.
04:56Till I'll roam round the valley, and the mountains so wide.
05:04Till I find the last of Aaron, and lie by her side.
05:15Oh, my goodness me. Wowie.
05:22Your voice is gorgeous.
05:24We're so lucky to have all this written down and recorded.
05:30So it's great.
05:31And sung to us by yourself.
05:34The way of the song in Sianos is it's so lovely everywhere I go.
05:46Somebody's able to tell me who wrote the song, who sang the song, who taught it to them.
05:53In each place that we go, each area.
05:55It's like, they're holding something very precious that was given to them.
06:01And they're passing that alarm.
06:06I believe I was on the permite.
06:10Lord, we have an amazing day, so my letters can be released.
06:11And it's like, it's like a big deal of mind when I was reading what you read.
06:12And then there is a very small letter of iron.
06:16And then there is a value of these things.
06:18If you're a little bit more, it's like it's like a big deal of wine.
06:21I'm so happy to see the language of the river and the river,
06:22because in the middle of a river,
06:24you're in the middle of a river.
06:26I'm so happy to see the story more he was on the line.
06:29Lannan won 10 thousand words in the city
06:33and that's why you started a choir
06:37during the late 18th class
06:40with a moment like that.
06:48This is not just a random gathering of friends,
06:50but you're also a choir.
06:52Am I right?
06:54Past and present choir.
06:56You were saying something earlier that I thought was gorgeous
06:58in that the best way to learn Irish and reconnect is through songs and poetry and stories.
07:03Absolutely, because you're getting the nuance of the language.
07:06The vocabulary, the vocabulary, the pronunciation, and the nuance of the language.
07:14Like, you know the way people translate English or Irish into English, but you lose.
07:19When you do that, you lose the emotion, you know?
07:22I agree.
07:23Because the language itself is very poetic.
07:26Like, we're such an emotional people.
07:29Maybe long ago, before maybe the 1700s, that we were entitled, or not entitled,
07:34but we were able to express ourselves emotionally.
07:37And then when we were colonised, all that was taken away and we became fearful,
07:41and so a lot of those songs were old, so you probably were allowed to.
07:45Whereas, I don't know, did we become kind of shamed and...
07:49Yeah, and as far as I know, lots of songs were cleaned up,
07:52and something else put in the line, so that that...
07:55So, censorship.
07:56Censorship.
07:57Censorship.
07:58Yeah.
07:59I suppose if it was anglicised, you know, within...
08:05I could be totally wrong, I'm grasping, I'm asking.
08:07It'd be more polite.
08:08It'd be more polite.
08:09It'd be more polite.
08:10Yeah.
08:11That's where I was going.
08:12Yeah.
08:13It'd be more polite.
08:14And also then you had the church to contend with as well.
08:16I was afraid to mention that, but they had a lot to answer, too.
08:19They did.
08:20So, scenes is worth chatting away.
08:22I'd love to hear a few songs, of course, with you and your sisters.
08:27So, one of our most favourite in the lullaby thing was Bug Brain.
08:32Oh, yes.
08:33Drink to the old man, washing his feet, and I suppose that's what people did long go,
08:36minding the old people.
08:37Bug Brain is like a little drop.
08:38Yeah.
08:39And you know, it is not water.
08:40No.
08:41On Shandain, it doesn't say it's whether it's a man or a woman.
08:44Well, I suppose that's what they did when people got old, they minded them.
08:47Yeah.
08:48Bug Brain, Bug Brain, Bug Brain, Bug Brain on Tandana.
09:00Bug Brain is large pain, Bug Brain on Tandana.
09:12Bug Brain is large pain.
09:17Bug brain is large pain.
09:19CHOIR SINGS
09:49It's been so lovely to hear how the female voice has enriched and captured the essence of song in Cule and Ballyvorny for generations, and still today it's as prevalent as ever.
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10:15CHOIR Advisory
10:16CHOIR S zij
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10:17But I think it's important to have a new style in Neskert-Giarrí...
10:22...and a new style in Tricleila.
10:26But when I was in the first time...
10:29...I was in the first time...
10:31...I think it was a new style in Elah...
10:34...and I was in the first time.
10:47music that I can't access unless I learn the language totally. I learn it to an
10:54extent but I'll miss a lot of nuances which I need to learn and so I'm also
10:59finding on my travels with this that there's a flip side to that which I've
11:04just discovered recently is that maybe it's not learning the language to learn
11:09the songs maybe it's learning the songs to learn the language. I was just gonna
11:12say that because to learn a language through music I think you're using like
11:19that right side of your brain it's about the sounds the musicality of the
11:23language instead of like the grammar and the kind of formal learning like we did
11:28in school so it's a more imaginative way of getting to know the language just
11:34through the sounds of it before you worry about anything else. So for me when I'm
11:39singing in Irish there's the music the melody line of the song but there's also
11:43the music within the words and Irish is really vowel centric it's really open so
11:50it lets out the voice so when I'm singing in English I feel like it's a little bit
11:53more closed. Oh I love this. So I always thought the Irish language so
11:59percussive you know but it's you're saying it and maybe... I feel like it's the
12:04opposite. It's the opposite. So there is a theory that I heard I don't know if it's true
12:09or not but that the Irish word for English which is bairla comes from bairl rá because
12:18when Irish people saw people speaking English bairl rá means mouth speak so
12:24that you know when I'm speaking English everything is up here to the front okay
12:27yeah so English is up to the front of your mouth yeah a lot of Irish sounds are
12:32further back you've got the soft yeah but they're all very soft they're never
12:37glattal stops there the air is pushed through them slowly and flowing and
12:42softly so always carries the melody what it also symbolizes is that the vowels rule
12:49the whole sounding of the word so it's always about I'm in love with vowels can
12:54you tell. It's really nerdy. No I'm loving this. Yeah. This is very this this it's making
13:01total sense yeah everything and then for singing. Then around here people will sing
13:05in both languages and then they'll sing a country song or they'll sing a song from
13:09the crooners yeah and there was never this discrepancy over what's a real song
13:15what's not it's all music it's all to be welcomed and to be expressed with joy and
13:22to be celebrated yeah it's to be loved it's not it's not something elitist I
13:30don't want it to be elitist you know I don't want it to be in attainable for
13:33people I want it to be accessible that's what I feel my role is as a singer we all
13:40have to reframe our identity and our relationship with the language and with
13:46the music
13:47I'm visiting my gorgeous friend and wild man Brendan Degley a true legend of Irish
14:05music and song and West Kerry I'm eager to hear his perspective on my journey to
14:11master the Irish language through song
14:15there's loads of beautiful words that are gone maybe that's why I find it
14:20daunting to to as I'm learning Irish I keep thinking oh god I didn't know that and
14:26this is how this whole quest came about you have it in the English language
14:30because the English that you heard in in the liberties is not the English that you
14:34hear in in England there's there was a great journalist called Conn Hullain he said I have
14:39great respect for the English language even though I don't speak it myself I speak
14:44hiberno English English woven on a Gaelic loom but once you sing a song and you know the
14:52words and you know what you're talking about and you know the history of it and you're you're
14:56you're you're you're uh being truthful to what the poet that wrote the song um uh was
15:03intending to put to to the story of the poet that he was trying to give in those words
15:08you're speaking the language so learn it your own way but also nurture the dialects that are important
15:16yeah yeah yeah yeah your Irish will be um Irish spoken on an on a Dublin English loom
15:25oh I love that it'll be sprinkled with Dublinese yeah yeah right
15:31right
15:34yeah
15:42yeah
15:45yeah
15:52listening to Brandon perform
16:03it wasn't about
16:05fluency or perfection
16:07it's about
16:09understanding
16:10feeling
16:11belonging
16:12it's about hearing yourself
16:14in a language
16:15you thought was lost to you
16:22after chatting with both Mirren
16:26and Brandon
16:27it feels like now is the perfect time
16:30to learn a piece
16:31in the Shannos tradition
16:32Mirren has very kindly offered to teach me
16:35so I'm both excited
16:37and terrified
16:52and I went and I sang the wrong second half of the verse
17:06because you're sorry
17:08now they
17:09this was
17:11my brother played this on the box at my mother's funeral
17:14you see
17:14because she loved it so much
17:16so that's why I recorded this song in the first place
17:19because I know
17:20it resonates
17:21with so many Irish people
17:23this is the one
17:24the one that makes you cry
17:25is the one
17:26and this is my
17:27I dreamt of my mum last night
17:29she came to me in a dream
17:30so this seems to be a sign
17:32it's actually a very very
17:34old air
17:35so it's thought that this goes back
17:37at least
17:38to the mid 1600s
17:40okay
17:41so
17:41there are people that even dispute that
17:44and say it could be
17:45even 100 years older again
17:48but it has been attributed to a poet from Tyrone actually
17:51called
17:51An Dú Gánach
17:52but the version that we're going to do
17:54would be
17:56the West Munster
17:58West Kerry
17:59version
18:00every different dialect of Irish
18:02there is a different style of singing
18:03so we like to
18:06personalise things
18:07and that's one of the nicest things about traditional music
18:10and traditional singing
18:11is that
18:11how you personalise it
18:13is very up to you
18:14it's not just about your regional style
18:16it's about your own personal style as well
18:18it's like it touches on magic
18:19well I think
18:21that a song like this
18:22is an example
18:23of the
18:24classical
18:25music of Gaelic Ireland
18:27it's high art
18:28it really is
18:30you don't read me
18:31huh
18:32yes
18:33
18:48Fa ni o re ra
18:52Fa ni o re ra
18:56me re
18:58si a re
19:00ta
19:02haki
19:08Okay. Oh my god, this is
19:10a mess.
19:12We nixed us.
19:14Fa ni o re ra
19:22Fa ni o re ra
19:24Fa ni o re ra
19:26Fa ni o re ra
19:28Fa ni o re ra
19:30Fa ni o re ra
19:32Fa ni o re ra
19:34Fa ni o re ra
19:36That one you actually did get
19:38and I just want to tell you that is the hardest line in the song for me as well.
19:42And you have it.
19:44Just let it happen now because it's there in the can.
19:50Ava
19:54Ava
19:56Ava
19:58Ava
20:00Ava
20:02Ava
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