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Jones Expects Nasdaq to Climb Higher, Lower Rates
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6 weeks ago
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00:00
I want to ask about Wall Street and specifically about this equity market.
00:04
I do watch our competition, and I saw your interview with Andrew last week.
00:11
You said this is like October of 1999.
00:13
But after that, as you pointed out, you know, the stock market doubled.
00:17
We had a drop in October, like an 11 percent intraday drop, but then the stock market doubled
00:22
to March of 2000.
00:23
Are we still in line for a doubling of this market?
00:28
Well, it's so funny because you had mentioned that 54 percent of fund managers think that
00:34
we're in an AI bubble.
00:37
If it's a bubble, it's a small one.
00:40
If you just think about, and again, how do you actually define bubbles?
00:43
If you think about the bubbles of the past three or four decades, the NICI in 89, NASDAQ
00:49
in 99, biotech 2000, just after 2011, 12, China 2007.
00:58
All those were four to six hundred percent gains.
01:01
The NASDAQ's up two hundred percent off the bottom.
01:04
So I don't know whether we're going to blow off like we did in 1999.
01:10
Is it possible?
01:11
Are all the ingredients in place?
01:14
I think clearly they are.
01:17
For me, the the one thing that you can never, ever forget is that a year from today, assuming
01:25
that the president gets his wishes, that the Fed funds rate's going to probably be in the
01:31
two and a half.
01:33
I think they're I think they would like to see it at two and a quarter.
01:37
So I think two and a half to 75, obviously, whoever the new Fed chair is going to have
01:42
to be able to intellectually move that board, a majority of the board.
01:47
He's probably whoever the new Fed chair.
01:49
Let's say they've got six solid votes, so he'll have to find one more.
01:54
And I don't think it'll be that hard to do.
01:56
But if you're if you're going to have two and a half percent overnight rates or 275, that's
02:03
a really compelling story for higher equity prices.
02:06
You're still long stocks right now.
02:08
You're still long the Nasdaq.
02:10
I am.
02:12
I wouldn't say I'm long at this second.
02:14
I'm clearly again.
02:17
I think there's such a confluence of possibly negative, possibly positive events.
02:23
I think I want to kind of wait and see where we are in a week or two time.
02:28
But but my my belief is that we'll be substantially higher by the end of the year.
02:33
All right.
02:34
So just to end on where we started with the pick a ticker contest for Robin Hood, I asked
02:39
you last time and I'll ask you again for players at home.
02:43
Yeah.
02:44
What tips would you give us?
02:45
What would you put?
02:47
I'll probably.
02:49
So I think it's going to begin November when I'm sure I'll probably be long.
02:52
The Nasdaq will be my my long.
02:55
Remember, you see, it's really interesting because the last 12 months of a bull market.
03:03
Typically, you double the annual gains up into that point in time.
03:08
But that's to the end of the bull market.
03:10
So we've got this situation confronting us where the best part of the markets possibly
03:17
straight ahead.
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But it's also the most dangerous because it could be the top.
03:21
So so I would probably long the Nasdaq would be my long and I'm I've got to think about
03:28
what my short would be.
03:29
It could be.
03:31
Hmm.
03:32
Hmm.
03:33
It might be the bond market again, though, that'll be a bit boring.
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