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'Inequality, division: Ouattara will bring investment, 'stability at exclusion of many Ivorians from electoral process'
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00:00
It's a nation that's enjoyed West Africa's strongest growth the past decade.
00:04
But all rivalries subsist, and in Ivory Coast, a country that was wracked with civil war
00:09
before a French and UN-led intervention that first brought Alassane Ouattara to power in 2011,
00:16
they're getting set to vote Saturday in a presidential election.
00:20
Now 83, Ouattara seeking a fourth term.
00:22
His two main rivals, predecessor Laurent Gbagbo and former corporate boss Tijan Tiam,
00:28
barred from running with us from the economic capital, Abidjan Justice Baidu, our correspondent,
00:36
and from London, Alex Vines, Africa director of the European Council on Foreign Relations.
00:41
Let me begin with you, Justice.
00:43
What's the mood where you are a few hours before campaigning closes?
00:51
There is quiet tension in many streets across Abidjan.
00:56
Today is the last day of campaigning, and it is a one-sided event all across the city.
01:04
I haven't come across any activities by any of the four other candidates that are running in this election on Saturday.
01:12
On buses, on motor bicycles, on all parts of the streets.
01:19
People who are adorned in the shirts of President Alassane Ouattara in his party callers
01:28
that are waving flags, tooting horns, and blowing their trumpet to what most certainly looks like
01:36
accrues to a landslide victory this Saturday.
01:41
Alex Vines, your thoughts on the fact that Ouattara is, A, running for a fourth term,
01:49
and that Laurent Gbagbo and Tijan Tiam are not in the race?
01:53
And for the United Nations, 20 years ago, I remember the war there very well.
02:07
And, I mean, Laurent Gbagbo was obviously president in that period,
02:11
and his wife, Simone, who's now divorced from him,
02:15
and is running as a candidate in this election, was the first lady.
02:19
So, look, the elections are not going through a level playing field.
02:26
It's all tilted in favour of the 83-year-old Ouattara,
02:31
who will get a fourth term, I think is right to say.
02:35
And then the big question is, will there be stability?
02:39
Will there be prosperity in Cote d'Ivoire after that?
02:42
This is a very ill-tempered election,
02:44
and there has been a lot of fake news and disinformation circulating around.
02:50
It's been quite an ugly election,
02:52
even though its outcomes seem pretty clear-cut,
02:55
given that everything is tilted in favour of Ouattara.
02:59
Yeah, that disinformation has been a talking point.
03:04
France 24's team picked up on that.
03:06
We're going to show you a clip from a longer report.
03:10
It's read by Tom Canetti.
03:14
Journalists at independent media Ivoire Cech meet for their editorial meeting.
03:19
They're looking for disinformation circulating on social media,
03:22
which they can debunk.
03:26
I was monitoring last night and came across two stories on the same page.
03:32
Faso Star News.
03:35
Times' residence was ransacked.
03:37
That's the most urgent one.
03:39
Why?
03:40
Because the attack on President Gabagbo's residence is actually old news.
03:45
This year we've seen the same story pop up three or four times.
03:53
Mohammed conducts a reverse image search to verify the information.
03:57
It turns out not to be the residence of Ivorian opposition leader,
04:00
Tejan Tiam,
04:02
but that of a Hamas leader in Doha,
04:04
bombed by Israel a few days earlier.
04:06
Like most of the disinformation that Mohammed tracks,
04:09
the propaganda comes from a website claiming to be affiliated
04:12
with the Alliance of Sahel States,
04:14
an intergovernmental organisation
04:16
that brings together the juntas from Mali, Niger and Burkina Faso.
04:20
We're seeing the spread of fake news targeting Ivory Coast,
04:29
which is being disseminated by pro-AES accounts.
04:33
The posts are coordinated.
04:35
The one page shows fake news,
04:38
the others relay it.
04:39
A concern reiterated by the National Agency for Information Systems Security.
04:50
Here, the agency tracks one of the most viral pieces of fake news this year in the country,
04:55
the death of President Alassane Ouattara.
04:59
An online rumour launched by opposition supporters in March.
05:01
The rumour was amplified by cyber activists from neighbouring Burkina Faso,
05:13
who created a fake screenshot attributed to France 24.
05:17
It was an attempt to destabilise public opinion
05:19
and to undermine Ivorian society,
05:22
according to Ivorian authorities.
05:24
Now, Alex Vines,
05:28
Ivory Coast, no stranger to disinformation,
05:34
false claims that Ouattara is not even Ivorian,
05:37
that we've heard for decades,
05:38
because he's from the north of the country.
05:43
What makes this different at this particular moment?
05:47
Well, it's very divisive.
05:49
I mean, this is a pattern that we see across elections in West Africa.
05:53
We saw it in Nigeria, we saw it in Senegal,
05:56
we saw it in Ghana,
05:58
now we're seeing it in Côte d'Ivoire.
05:59
And so you have disinformation.
06:01
You do see some of the disinformation is launched,
06:05
particularly out of the Sahelian states,
06:08
in particular Burkina Faso.
06:10
My own organisation yesterday published a paper called
06:15
The Bearer and the Bot Farm,
06:17
which focuses on this and looks at why this is happening.
06:20
Clearly, there was Russian training in this,
06:24
but what we're beginning to see now
06:26
is that the Bukinavs who have been trained in these techniques
06:30
are now following their own agency
06:33
and are obviously targeting Côte d'Ivoire,
06:37
because the relationship between the junta in Ouagadougou
06:40
and President Ouattara is incredibly poor.
06:43
I mean, it's non-existent.
06:44
So this is definitely about poor relations
06:49
between neighbours that is playing out
06:51
at this very moment in time.
06:53
Yeah, you have, Justice Baidu,
06:55
those three nations, Burkina Faso, Mali, Niger,
06:59
which have broken with France,
07:01
gotten closer to Russia,
07:02
and it's become an issue in Ivory Coast
07:04
in the north of the country.
07:06
There are refugees spilling over
07:08
from jihadist attacks across the border,
07:11
particularly from Burkina Faso.
07:13
It's a key issue in this election.
07:23
Only weeks ago,
07:25
we were reporting on stories of people
07:27
who are actually moving out of Ivory Coast
07:31
into countries like Ghana,
07:33
a lot of them for their own safety,
07:36
according to interviews that I did with them.
07:39
Many of them are unsure about
07:41
about what would happen beyond Saturday.
07:46
Four persons have now been confirmed dead
07:50
in the weeks leading up to this election,
07:54
including a soldier,
07:56
who all of them have been killed in,
07:59
protests that have sparked
08:03
in several parts of the country,
08:04
mainly to the south and to the west,
08:08
which are dominated by opposition political parties.
08:13
Two of them,
08:14
the key ones,
08:15
have had their leaders disqualified
08:18
from standing in this election,
08:20
and they have called on their supporters
08:23
to come on the streets
08:24
to register their anger
08:27
and disapproval of the processes
08:30
leading up to this election.
08:32
Only two days ago,
08:35
more than 30 of them,
08:38
of these protesters,
08:39
were sentenced to three years in prison.
08:42
It brings the number to around 60
08:44
protesters who have so far been jailed
08:48
for three years
08:49
for taking part in some of these demonstrations.
08:52
We understand that these court hearings
08:55
of about 700 people
08:57
who have so far been rounded up
08:59
all across the country
09:01
and are going to an outstanding trial
09:02
for taking part
09:04
in what the government describes
09:06
as illegal demonstrations
09:08
and disruptions to public order
09:11
are being tried for these reasons.
09:14
And so there is a lot of apprehension
09:16
in several parts of the country,
09:19
particularly to the south,
09:21
where the opposition party
09:23
enjoys majority of its support at the moment.
09:28
And there's always this sort of dichotomy
09:31
when you're in Ivory Coast
09:33
because next to all of the uncertainty
09:38
that you described, Justice,
09:40
there's Abidjan,
09:41
which is an economic powerhouse.
09:45
They keep building a new infrastructure there.
09:49
And it's a country that since the civil war
09:50
has gone from strength to strength.
09:55
Yes, that is the irony about this country.
09:59
It has seen so much strife,
10:02
so much bloodshed,
10:04
and yet continues to boom
10:06
in many aspects of its economy.
10:09
It's one of the things
10:11
on which President Alassane Ouattara
10:13
is priding himself with.
10:16
And it's one of the things
10:17
that many of the people who support him
10:19
stand on to say
10:21
that he deserves another term.
10:23
Indeed, when he declared
10:26
to stand for this controversial fourth term,
10:29
he did say that he had taken this decision
10:32
only because Ivory Coast faces
10:35
several economic and security challenges
10:39
that require experienced hands like himself
10:42
to be able to administer.
10:45
I was here two years ago
10:47
when this country hosted
10:49
the African Cup of Nations,
10:51
which they won,
10:52
and I saw, having come back two years later,
10:56
the massive change that has happened,
10:58
at least in Ivory, in Abidjan,
11:01
the first capital.
11:02
Many flyovers, roads that have been expanded,
11:07
skyscrapers that are springing up by the day,
11:10
especially in Plateau,
11:12
which is Plateau area,
11:13
which is its central business district.
11:15
It's obvious that this country
11:17
is doing really well,
11:19
and with the soaring prices of cocoa
11:22
on the world market,
11:23
this country,
11:25
which is the largest world producer,
11:27
is definitely flying on the back
11:30
of those successes.
11:32
And so on that front,
11:34
yes, it is doing well,
11:35
but then the activities
11:38
that have happened
11:39
with people being removed
11:42
from the standing in this election,
11:45
up to a third of people
11:47
who are qualified to vote in this election
11:49
decided not to register on the ballot at all.
11:52
So for a country of about 31 million people,
11:55
it's only about 8 million
11:58
that are on the electoral roll.
12:00
There are several persons
12:01
in the southern cities like Abidjan
12:03
and in San Pedro and parts of the West
12:05
who would say that they are not interested
12:08
in these elections at all.
12:10
Many people feel that what is happening
12:12
is definitely a slap in the face of democracy.
12:15
Alex Vine,
12:16
how does a country like Ivory Coast
12:18
overcome this paradox
12:20
of huge potential,
12:23
but an unresolved past and present?
12:27
So, I mean,
12:28
compared with 20 years ago,
12:30
and there,
12:31
Abidjan was a developed city
12:33
compared with its neighbors.
12:34
I mean,
12:34
it's just amazing what has happened.
12:37
And so the issue
12:38
that Cote d'Ivoire is facing
12:40
is very significant inequality and division.
12:45
So the poverty of the north
12:46
compared with Abidjan,
12:49
the foreign direct investment
12:51
is going into the south.
12:52
Yes, some of the cocoa growers
12:53
definitely are benefiting
12:54
from high cocoa prices.
12:56
And international markets
12:57
are interested in Cote d'Ivoire.
12:59
It's one of the countries
13:00
that people are bullish,
13:02
and they have written in
13:03
a fourth-term election return
13:06
for President Ouattara.
13:07
That's written into the assessments
13:09
this year that I've seen.
13:11
And so more investment
13:12
will flow into Cote d'Ivoire.
13:14
It is seen as a stable country,
13:17
and financiers have been saying
13:20
that Ouattara will bring stability
13:22
and consistency
13:24
into a rough neighborhood.
13:26
But like your correspondent has said,
13:30
I do very much worry
13:31
about the exclusion
13:33
of many Ivorians
13:34
from this electoral process.
13:37
I don't think anyone could say
13:39
that Tiam, for example,
13:40
is not an experienced chief executive
13:43
who could run a country.
13:46
He's run big multinationals.
13:49
Laurent Bagbo, of course,
13:50
is a different sort of experience
13:52
that he brought
13:53
from when he was president.
13:55
So it's about now, I think,
13:57
how does an Ouattara administration,
14:00
if it gets a landslide,
14:01
use that mandate
14:03
to kind of continue prosperity,
14:07
iron out inequality,
14:08
and actually be more inclusive?
14:10
Because Ouattara is 83.
14:12
He cannot continue to rule forever.
14:15
And there will need to be a moment
14:17
where political leadership
14:19
in Cote d'Ivoire changes.
14:21
Alex Vine, so many thanks
14:23
for joining us from London.
14:24
Justice Baidu following it all for us
14:26
from Abidjan in Ivory Coast.
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