From Assurance to Insurance: How Psalm 91 Became a Cult Doctrine | Chino Ross | Episode 448 - video Dailymotion

William Branham Historical Research

John and Chino explore the strange evolution of the “assurance versus insurance” doctrine that spread through William Branham’s ministry and reached its peak under Hobart Freeman’s Faith Assembly. Drawing connections between Psalm 91, Mark 16, and the Manifest Sons of God teaching, they reveal how a harmless Branham anecdote became a central tenet of Freeman’s anti-insurance, faith-healing movement. Chino recalls hearing the sermon in 1974 and how Freeman’s twisting of scripture led believers to reject medical help and financial protection, often with tragic results. John connects the theology back to Branham’s healing revivals and its ties to testing God—through poison drinking, snake handling, and other extreme acts of “faith.” The discussion exposes how cult leaders turn poetic Psalms into legalistic works systems, binding followers through slogans, repetition, and fear while redefining “trusting God” as rejecting all human wisdom.  00:00 Introduction 00:31 The Insurance Story William Branham Loved to Tell 02:31 Hobart Freeman and Psalm 91 as an “Assurance Policy” 05:00 Freeman’s Pattern of Borrowed Doctrines 08:30 Psalm 91 and Cultic Mind Control 14:02 Faith Assembly’s Morning Confession Ritual 16:47 Assurance vs. Insurance: How Freeman Framed It 20:21 The Religion of Works and Control 23:07 Branham’s Doctrine Link to Freeman’s Teaching 26:30 “Total Faith and Total Obedience” – The Fine Print 29:02 Freeman’s Proof-Texting and “God Gave It to Me” Claims 36:10 The Psalm 91 Bullet Story and Unverified Miracles 40:25 From Stories to Doctrines to Control 45:01 Insurance as a “Negative Confession” 46:44 Cognitive Dissonance and Freeman’s Contradictions 49:03 The Ladder Illustration and Eroding Faith 52:06 Long Life Promises and Misused Scriptures 55:29 Psalm 90–91 in Context: Reality and Faith 56:46 How Followers Suffered After Canceling Insurance 57:52 Testing God and the Mark 16 Connection 1:00:09 Branham, Roy Davis, and Poison Drinking Practices 1:03:13 Childlike Faith vs. Testing God 1:05:09 Why Faith Assembly Didn’t Handle Snakes 1:06:15 Conclusion – Psalm 91 and Modern Faith Movements  ______________________ Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K ______________________ – Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham – Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ – Visit the website: https://william-branham.org – Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilliamBranhamOrg  – Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@william.m.branham – Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/wmbhr – Buy the books: https://william-branham.org/site/books

Transcript

00:00:30Hello, and welcome to another episode of the William Branham Historical Research Podcast.

00:00:36I'm your host, John Collins, the author and founder of William Branham Historical Research

00:00:41at william-branham.org, and with me I have my co-host, minister, and friend, Chino Ross,

00:00:47pastor and the voice of the understanding scripture and truth by Chino D. Ross' YouTube channel.

00:00:53Chino, it's good to be back and to talk about insurance, or assurance.

00:00:58I had no idea the context.

00:01:02You gave me the passage from Psalms to read, and I've still got to go through my memory.

00:01:07Probably while you're talking, I'll look up the connections on that verse, but let me read

00:01:11you a story that William Branham told often in his sermons.

00:01:16He had a guy come up to him selling insurance, and the guy says, would you like to have insurance?

00:01:23And William Branham said, my brother is an insurance agent.

00:01:27And the guy said, oh, I'm sorry.

00:01:29I wouldn't butt in around Jesse, your brother.

00:01:32And Jesse, I don't know that he was actually an insurance agent, but he was working with

00:01:37a mob, which is a funny side story I won't get into.

00:01:40But the guy says, so you have insurance?

00:01:45He said, I have assurance.

00:01:46And then he went on to look around, you know, everybody standing there, and he said his wife

00:01:51kept looking at him like he was a hypocrite.

00:01:54And he says, I have assurance.

00:01:56Blessed assurance.

00:01:57Jesus is mine.

00:01:58Oh, what a...

00:01:59You know, I heard this story growing up all the time, and I never really thought people

00:02:05would take it to the extremes that could be taken.

00:02:09We just thought it was like a joke that he frequently told.

00:02:12But I remember as a kid hearing this story, and I want to say, I need to look up and see

00:02:19how often that he said it, but I want to say that through a large part of his Lateran

00:02:24ministry, he was teaching, he was saying this story.

00:02:27And then to find that this is part of the Hobart Freeman legacy is really odd to me.

00:02:32And I was curious, John, to know, was there any William Branham connection?

00:02:37You almost have to have been a member of Faith Assembly or a follower of Dr. Freeman to know

00:02:44the importance of Psalm 91 in his ministry.

00:02:49And whenever he would refer to Psalm 91, he always called it his assurance policy.

00:02:58And so there was this dichotomy between, are you going to take out God's assurance policy

00:03:06or man's insurance policy?

00:03:09And he did a message on this in the winter of 1974, 1975.

00:03:18And it is available online for anyone who wants to go and listen to it.

00:03:24And it's a two, I can remember on the tape list, it was a two-part tape.

00:03:32So I assumed for years that, because I probably just didn't remember, it's been 50 years since

00:03:39I've heard the message.

00:03:40But I just assumed, you know, he taught part one on Sunday and part two the following Sunday.

00:03:46But I found out by listening to it online, it is a, because I don't hear any break in it at all.

00:03:51It is a single message that lasted one hour, 50 minutes, and 55 seconds.

00:03:56So it was a two-hour message.

00:03:58It was a long, long message.

00:03:59And he was preaching Psalm 91.

00:04:03I'm not sure where he got this idea, assurance instead of insurance.

00:04:11Not only did he teach a message on it that was two hours long, but he talked about it all the time.

00:04:19Hobart was one of these people that just loved alliteration.

00:04:24He loved cute little sayings.

00:04:26He loved the repetitive nature of the stories that he told.

00:04:31There was never anything new or fresh with Dr. Freeman.

00:04:37He just had the same stories, and he had spin them a different way.

00:04:40And many times he wouldn't even spin them a different way.

00:04:43You know, you'd be sitting out there and say, oh, no, are we going to hear again on the road home from a nightclub in 1952?

00:04:51God saved me on the road home from a nightclub.

00:04:54We heard that, you know, hundreds of times.

00:04:57We just did.

00:04:58And so we heard this business of assurance.

00:05:02And he just loved saying assurance.

00:05:03It wasn't assurance, as I think we normally would pronounce the word.

00:05:07Blessed assurance, Jesus is mine.

00:05:10And we don't say blessed assurance, Jesus is mine.

00:05:14But he talked about it all the time.

00:05:18And I actually can't document from whom he borrowed this.

00:05:25I was really curious to know.

00:05:27But I told you before he went online, I was suspecting he did not get it directly from Branham,

00:05:34that Branham taught Psalm 91 the same way Hobart did.

00:05:37But I'm still going to say he probably borrowed it from someone else prior to him.

00:05:44And I only say that because that's the track record.

00:05:47And I've been able to document that pretty well over all of these podcasts that the things Hobart was saying,

00:05:56whether it was the manifestation of the sons of God.

00:06:00You know, he did not see that himself one time when he was reading Romans 8.

00:06:04He got that from people before him.

00:06:06The term overcomer, that was not original with him.

00:06:11And he didn't just get that from the first couple of chapters of the book of Revelation.

00:06:15He got that from other people.

00:06:18The use of the term man-child, that was not original with him from Revelation 12, that God showed him that.

00:06:26And just a host of other things.

00:06:27And there's nothing wrong, as I've said, with borrowing something from someone else.

00:06:32As a matter of fact, that's where all of us learn things.

00:06:36It's from people who came before us.

00:06:41So I don't have a problem at all if somebody, if you, if I, if Hobart.

00:06:46I don't have a problem at all if Hobart borrowed the idea or concept from someone else.

00:06:51Because that's the normal process of human learning.

00:06:54I was talking with someone this past week and I said, I can't think of a single original truth that I have or original doctrine or piece of knowledge.

00:07:05And that sounds pretty pathetic.

00:07:07But I think that's just the way education and knowledge is.

00:07:12It's, and I was telling this person, it is so rare to be an Albert Einstein and come up with this E equals MC squared, you know.

00:07:23That is some brilliant stuff.

00:07:25And even the stuff that Einstein came up with was, was, I mean, the ideas and preliminary concepts had been thought through by people before him.

00:07:37But still, I mean, he was a genius level individual and I'm not that, neither was Hobart, neither are most people.

00:07:44So it's okay to build on other people.

00:07:47But the problem with Hobart is he always taught everything with the impression to the people listening to him that this was, that God gave him this, that this was original with him.

00:08:00And that's what's so dangerous and deadly, because when you do that over a long period of time, those people in your audience come to believe that all of this stuff that you have is directly from God.

00:08:12And it's such an, such a huge pot of material.

00:08:17It's pretty impressive that you were able to come up with all of this on your own.

00:08:21So anyway, if I could just read, I'll just read a couple of verses, John, to start this Psalm so people get the flavor of Psalm 91.

00:08:31It is actually just, you know, one of the most beautiful Psalms in the book of Psalm.

00:08:35It's anonymous.

00:08:37We don't know who wrote it.

00:08:38A lot of your Psalms will have a superscription, which actually go back to the Hebrew text as well, telling us something about authorship or the condition or background.

00:08:51The Psalm, this one does not give us any superscription.

00:08:56It bears some close similarities to the previous Psalm, simply because it's almost the opposite of the previous Psalm.

00:09:07And so some scholars have suggested that it might have been written by Moses since Moses, according to the superscription, wrote Psalm 90.

00:09:15He wrote Psalm 90 as a, whoa, way down in the dumps.

00:09:19And then here comes Psalm 91, but we have God to depend on.

00:09:23And so here he's coming up to heights.

00:09:27Psalm 91 verse one, he that dwelleth in the secret place of the most high shall abide under the shadow of the almighty.

00:09:34I will say of the Lord, he is my refuge and my fortress, my God, in him will I trust.

00:09:40Surely he will deliver you from the snare of the fowler and from the noise and pestilence.

00:09:45He will cover you with his feathers and under his wings shall you trust.

00:09:49His truth shall be your shield and buckler and so forth.

00:09:52And obviously a whole lot of imagery and metaphors being used, just describing how wonderful God's protection is.

00:10:03So you can imagine me as a teenager, and I literally heard this 50 years ago.

00:10:10I literally heard, I'm 67 and I heard this when I was 17.

00:10:15And I just thought this, the way Hobart was teaching it, this was just the most beautiful new revelation from God.

00:10:26And I quickly memorized this entire chapter.

00:10:31And I can remember early in my newly married years, I got Psalm 91 on my license plate for my car.

00:10:40And I just thought I was so cool and so spiritual because I didn't need insurance either.

00:10:47I had divine assurance.

00:10:50You know, it's always pitted.

00:10:53You can either have man's way, man's insurance, or you can have divine assurance.

00:11:00And so what has made me want to discuss this among so many other things that we could hear 50 years later

00:11:07are the comments that I've heard and that I have read from several ex-Faith Assembly people here recently.

00:11:16They've been in the comment feed, but they've also just been in my own personal interaction with some of these people.

00:11:22And in hearing and reading their comments, you can tell right away that they're an ex-Faith Assembly person

00:11:30because Psalm 91 was just, was really big in their foundation years as a Christian.

00:11:38Some of these people were just kids at the time.

00:11:41Some of them were young adults, but they all knew the importance of Psalm 91.

00:11:47And so it's just interesting, depending on what church you have grown up in or what minister you grew up under,

00:11:59certain ideas and concepts and certain Bible passages, you know, are foundational.

00:12:06They're just a part of who you are.

00:12:08And I really have come to understand, John, that if you were a part of a cult,

00:12:14these things become part of you just in a really unique and definite way.

00:12:20I'm convinced that if you grew up in an Assemblies of God church, which is a Pentecostal church,

00:12:26and you went there, I don't know, all when you were a kid, when you were a teenager,

00:12:32you're going to come away, the rest of it, and let's say you got away from that, or you didn't.

00:12:37Either way, I would say that for the rest of your life, there are certain maybe ideas and concepts

00:12:45and definitely just feelings that you have because of where you were during formative years in your life.

00:12:52But there, to me, seems to be something different about any type of cult of personality

00:12:59because of the intelligence of the leader and his ability to communicate

00:13:05and because of his obsession with himself, you simply hear the same types of stories

00:13:12and the same use of passages in such a repetitive way

00:13:17that I really, really do think that's what we call mind control.

00:13:22And I do really believe you can use biblical passages.

00:13:25There's nothing wrong with Psalm 91.

00:13:27It's a part of the Old Testament, the hymn book of the Jewish people,

00:13:32of God under the Old Covenant, and if you read it, it's only 16 verses.

00:13:36It's a small psalm.

00:13:38It's a beautiful psalm.

00:13:39And I'm sure there are other people listening to this who don't have any connection with Dr. Freeman,

00:13:44who are familiar with Psalm 91 and who would agree.

00:13:48Yeah, this is really a beautiful psalm of protection.

00:13:52But when you come up under this cult mentality,

00:13:56it just has a different type of hold on you.

00:14:00So let me explain how this psalm is supposed to work for Faith Assembly people.

00:14:08Here's how it works because here's how you heard the psalm told to you by Dr. Freeman

00:14:17and his understudies, but especially Dr. Freeman.

00:14:21Because even the ministers under him who learned it,

00:14:26they learned it in the same setting and they were out in the same audience as everyone else.

00:14:32So it was not as original with them or for them or to them as it was to Dr. Freeman.

00:14:39But for Hobart, here's how it worked.

00:14:42And you will hear him say that in this message,

00:14:47which is, as I say, formerly a two-part message.

00:14:50Now it's just a long hour and 50 minute and 55 second one now.

00:14:55But you'll also just hear him.

00:14:56It's just a casual reference on messages all the time.

00:15:00But you're supposed to confess this before you get out of bed every morning.

00:15:06This was a part of his routine.

00:15:08Now, if you hear all of the context in which he tells the story,

00:15:14he would not necessarily quote the whole psalm.

00:15:18He probably did not read it because he did have it committed to memory.

00:15:23But he would, you know, maybe start it, go through a few verses at the beginning,

00:15:27maybe pick some in the middle.

00:15:29We don't know.

00:15:30He didn't tell.

00:15:30But he just says that he always confessed Psalm 91 before he got out of bed in the morning.

00:15:38And so as you're hearing this, and if your minister's doing it,

00:15:41and he's all powerful and anointed and God's man of faith and power for the hour,

00:15:46then you just know by implication this is something you're supposed to do.

00:15:50So if you confess this, this is the way it works.

00:15:53Before you even get, he would always say,

00:15:55before I get out of bed, before my feet hit the floor in the morning,

00:15:59I'm claiming, I'm claiming my assurance policy.

00:16:03And he would also throw in the first five verses of Psalm 103.

00:16:09Those were just his morning.

00:16:11You know, like you have morning coffee.

00:16:12This is what you do before you have morning coffee.

00:16:15You claim protection from Psalm 91.

00:16:20And so you say, well, what does that do if you claim protection from Psalm 94,

00:16:26on the basis of Psalm 91, if you're lying in bed and you're quoting part of this,

00:16:34what are you doing?

00:16:36Well, it takes the place, because it's an assurance to the believer,

00:16:42it takes the place of an insurance policy.

00:16:45And hence his love and his play on the words,

00:16:51I've got my assurance policy and you can have your insurance policy,

00:16:56but I'll take God's higher provision and you can take man's lower provision.

00:17:02And so as you hear him talk about this,

00:17:07a favorite topic and subject of his,

00:17:10then he just loved to go on these tangents of comparing what he has based on God's word

00:17:19versus what you have based on man's word.

00:17:23And he would say it like that.

00:17:25Would you prefer God's word or man's word?

00:17:27I prefer God's word.

00:17:29So I have Psalm 91.

00:17:31So I have faith as my shield and all you have is blue shield.

00:17:36And I have the old rugged cross and all you have is blue cross.

00:17:41You know, he had take all of these well-known insurance companies like blue shield and blue cross

00:17:48and insurance instead of assurance.

00:17:52He would say, you can have the medicine man, but I have the son of man.

00:17:56And I would tell people just beware of cute slogans.

00:18:01Hobart was famous for cute slogans.

00:18:04So he'd want you to have faith instead of a blue shield as your shield.

00:18:11And he would even encourage you when you get up every morning at once you get out of bed,

00:18:15before you go on your day, put on the whole armor of God.

00:18:19And so you literally put on the helmet of salvation and the breastplate of righteousness.

00:18:26And then you take the shield of faith and the sword of the spirit.

00:18:30And you go through all of these motions, putting on the whole armor of God.

00:18:36So, you know, I look back and I, as I said, John, I hadn't heard this until I heard it recently.

00:18:42This is teaching on this in all of these years.

00:18:45But I was very familiar with what he said.

00:18:48And it's amazing.

00:18:49It's amazing what you hear as a new convert and what you hear 50 years later in the same message.

00:18:56Thankfully, these messages have been preserved.

00:18:59And as I said, this message was taught over the winter of 1974, 1975.

00:19:04There was snow on the ground.

00:19:05They had only been in the glory barn about two years by this time.

00:19:09And they were excited.

00:19:10And he tells them at the very beginning of the message, this is going to be become part of your life and part of your regimen as an overcomer.

00:19:20And so I think it was probably fairly new to the people when he introduced them to Psalm 91 as their assurance policy instead of their insurance policy.

00:19:31But when I go back, as I have recently, and listen to that, you know, you hear so many things you didn't hear.

00:19:39I was only 17 years old when I heard this.

00:19:42And I think what you tend to hear, because you don't have the mind that has the ability to critically think and discern, you just hear the high points is what you hear.

00:19:55You hear any miraculous stories.

00:19:57You hear the cute slogans.

00:19:58You hear incredible testimonies that he tells.

00:20:03You hear just fantastic accounts of people who've been preserved and healed.

00:20:09You don't hear all of the filler material that goes between all of those stories.

00:20:16And so as I think about what he said back then, and I'm thinking about it now,

00:20:23and I hear that instead of blue shield, faith is your shield, instead of blue cross, the old rugged cross, instead of insurance, assurance.

00:20:35Okay, well, which one of these things is actually providing my protection?

00:20:41He just runs them all together, faith and the cross and claiming Psalm 91.

00:20:47I mean, it's just like a machine gun, a scattered gun, shooting all this stuff out there.

00:20:53And it all sounds so good.

00:20:55But I'm wondering now as I look, well, which one of these things?

00:20:59You said faith as my shield, and I've got the old rugged cross, and I've got Psalm 91.

00:21:05I didn't even hear any of that back then.

00:21:08He just runs it all together, and he's just mounting all of this stuff up so that by the end of the message,

00:21:14all you can say is, amen, I agree.

00:21:17You don't even know what you've agreed to.

00:21:18As I look at the way Hobart did things, John, it seems to me that he just turned Christianity into such a religion of personal works.

00:21:33You have to do this.

00:21:35You've got to quote that, and don't forget to memorize this.

00:21:39You've got to pray, rebuke that demon, claim this promise.

00:21:43Don't wear this piece of clothing.

00:21:46Don't watch that television show.

00:21:48Don't join this group.

00:21:50He just turned Christianity into, I really think, such a religion of personal works,

00:21:57and I think that it's probably because that's the way he lived in his own life.

00:22:03I think that's how he understood our relationship with God.

00:22:09There was just this sense of extreme urgency all the time.

00:22:13You don't have time to lay this on the shelf.

00:22:16All you have time to do is obey it and believe it.

00:22:21And he just taught that you don't have any opportunity in your life to discern,

00:22:29to maybe process Psalm 91 yourself and see, is this really what it's saying,

00:22:36and is this what I want to do on a regular basis?

00:22:39I don't know, but it just seemed like this was a part of his regular works religion

00:22:45to make sure you don't forget to quote Psalm 91 before you get out of bed in the morning.

00:22:52So while you were talking, I was digging into this because I wanted to see.

00:22:57I knew if Hobart Freeman is using the assurance joke,

00:23:00it's likely he got it from somebody who was at least in that community where Branham is repeating this joke.

00:23:07And I don't know that Branham came up with it, but he's repeating it so it was commonly popular.

00:23:12So I knew there must be some similarities in doctrine.

00:23:15Well, as you were talking, you mentioned a phrase that is forever burned in my head, man,

00:23:20from listening to these recordings over and over and over again.

00:23:23So I'm looking it up to see where that memory came from.

00:23:26And the funny part is, William Branham never mentioned Psalm 91 by name,

00:23:32and he also didn't mention it by the psalm.

00:23:35He always referred to Satan quoting Psalms 91 in Matthew 4, 6,

00:23:41when he says,

00:23:42He'll give the angels charge over you lest they dash your foot against the stone.

00:23:46And that second part I don't think is actually in Psalm 91,

00:23:51but the scholars believe that is Satan quoting Psalm 91 according to what I read and understand.

00:23:58So I'm looking at this, and I'm looking at the sermons that he's referencing this,

00:24:04and it would have been tied to what you're calling in Hobart Freeman the man-child doctrine,

00:24:09which is William Branham's manifest sons of God doctrine.

00:24:14And he always liked to quote the Satan fighting against it,

00:24:19because he was basically creating this scene in all of the minds

00:24:23where any religion that was against the faith healing movement that was teaching,

00:24:30you don't need to go to a healer to be healed.

00:24:33You just need to go to the Holy Spirit.

00:24:35He would always equate those to Satan attacking Jesus on the mount,

00:24:42in front of the temple.

00:24:44So what, in essence, what this is,

00:24:47Hobart Freeman is using one of William Branham's key doctrines,

00:24:53which is about the manifest sons of God,

00:24:55and tied to the assurance,

00:24:58which also, in a weird way,

00:24:59ties back to this fight against,

00:25:02between people who are for and against the divine healing,

00:25:05because you don't need divine healing.

00:25:07You have assurance.

00:25:08You have blessed assurance.

00:25:09So, in a weird way, it comes down to the circle.

00:25:12I could go into the depths of what all of this means in Branhamism,

00:25:16and it would probably take me two or three podcasts to explain it.

00:25:19But in essence, it is something that Branham did teach.

00:25:22He just never mentioned it by name,

00:25:24so I didn't immediately catch it.

00:25:26Yeah, and Hobart uses not only for insurance,

00:25:29that was the primary,

00:25:31but he saw the chapters just giving you protection, period.

00:25:37So definitely, it had to do with divine healing,

00:25:39because by the time you get down to,

00:25:44like, look at verse 10,

00:25:45there shall no evil befall thee,

00:25:47neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.

00:25:51So, a plague come nigh thy dwelling.

00:25:53A plague would be some type of sickness or illness.

00:25:55So, what does it say here?

00:25:57It said, no plague will ever come nigh your dwelling.

00:26:01So, he definitely used this for insurance,

00:26:05as well as for divine healing.

00:26:07When you listen to him begin to teach the psalm,

00:26:11and he actually goes through all 16 verses of it

00:26:14in that two-hour message.

00:26:16The very, very beginning of it, though,

00:26:19here are the things you hear now

00:26:20that you don't hear as a 17-year-old.

00:26:23I'm going to say within the first three minutes of it,

00:26:26he talks about Lloyd's of London,

00:26:29how they'll insure you against just about any laws,

00:26:32but there's always a catch.

00:26:34There's always a catch.

00:26:36And, you know, he says,

00:26:37well, there is no catch here.

00:26:38But then, within a couple of moments,

00:26:40he says, now, Psalm 91,

00:26:42in order for it to work,

00:26:43it's dependent upon meeting the conditions.

00:26:46And, you know what?

00:26:50He gives two conditions, John.

00:26:51He said, it's dependent on meeting the conditions,

00:26:54total faith, and total obedience.

00:26:57You know, I never heard that before.

00:26:59I just thought it was a lucky charm.

00:27:02You know, you just quote it, say it.

00:27:05And once you quote it and say it,

00:27:07and I'm sure that's how everyone else took it.

00:27:09And then we go back,

00:27:11and this is called, we read the fine print.

00:27:15When you read the fine print,

00:27:17well, the only way this works,

00:27:18he said, it is dependent upon meeting the conditions

00:27:23of total faith and total obedience.

00:27:27Well, there we go again with Hobart's nonsense.

00:27:29I don't know that anybody has ever had total faith

00:27:33in their life.

00:27:34And I am certain that nobody has ever had

00:27:38total obedience in their life.

00:27:40You'd probably be living in heaven

00:27:42if you had total obedience

00:27:44and total faith in your life.

00:27:46We do the best we can,

00:27:48and we always strive for more.

00:27:50And we do it out of the depths of our heart

00:27:52and our love for God to believe him and to obey him.

00:27:56But we're always finding areas that we come up short in,

00:28:00which was just something Hobart didn't believe

00:28:02and didn't tolerate.

00:28:03I think he thought that he was walking in total faith.

00:28:08That was a phrase they'd love to use.

00:28:11Brothers, we gotta be walking in total faith

00:28:14and total obedience.

00:28:16He has a series of tapes called Total Discipleship,

00:28:20Total Commitment, Total Consecration.

00:28:24You know, again, it's this works religion.

00:28:26None of us are able to do that.

00:28:29And we should try.

00:28:31And we should want to try.

00:28:34We should never look for ways to be disobedient

00:28:36or to be lacking in faith.

00:28:39But that's just, I think, the height of presumption

00:28:42to think any of us are walking in total faith

00:28:45and total obedience.

00:28:47But as he begins to exegete this,

00:28:49he says, now those are two conditions.

00:28:51Again, small print that none of us were able to read

00:28:54back in the day.

00:28:55And then he breaks the psalm down

00:28:57into seven different sections,

00:28:59all of which begin with a C.

00:29:01And then he, because he just loves alliteration.

00:29:05And he said, well, this is the way the Lord gave it to me.

00:29:08Those are the little subtle things you find

00:29:10in Hobart sermons all the time.

00:29:12Hobart didn't study this as a professional scholar

00:29:16would study it.

00:29:17Look at it in its context.

00:29:19It's in the Book of Psalms.

00:29:20It's the 91st Psalm.

00:29:23The Book of Psalms is actually divided,

00:29:25if you study the Book of Psalms,

00:29:27into five books of its own.

00:29:30You've got to find which of those five books

00:29:33Psalm 91 is in.

00:29:35It's easy to find the five books

00:29:37because they all end with a doxology.

00:29:40Psalm 91 is preceded by Psalm 90

00:29:43and followed by Psalm 92.

00:29:45You know, this is the way you study God's Word,

00:29:48just like you read any book.

00:29:50You study it in its context.

00:29:53Not with Dr. Freeman.

00:29:54God gave him this message on Psalm 91.

00:29:58And God gave this message to him

00:30:00with seven subsections in the Psalm,

00:30:04all starting with a C.

00:30:06Hobart was just, it's fascinating.

00:30:08He was a proof texter of the proof texters.

00:30:11He was a Pharisee of the Pharisees.

00:30:14And I don't even mean that in a bad way,

00:30:16although he was the bad version of that.

00:30:20I just mean it in the sense that,

00:30:23I've said this before.

00:30:24Someone asked me, several people have asked me,

00:30:26Chino, do you think Dr. Freeman was a smart man?

00:30:29Do you think he was intelligent?

00:30:31And I said, yeah, I think he was really smart.

00:30:33I think he was really an intelligent person.

00:30:36But I think his intelligence shone

00:30:38in the areas of memorization.

00:30:40He loved schemes, categories, charts.

00:30:45He loved everything starting with the C.

00:30:48What I think he failed terribly in

00:30:51is the ability to process information.

00:30:56He could memorize information,

00:30:57but he couldn't process

00:30:59the complexities of the information.

00:31:02He knew how to come up with arguments

00:31:06against cults,

00:31:08you know, Jehovah's Witness, Mormonism.

00:31:11He would have a list of verses to combat them.

00:31:15And I would say that his,

00:31:17the list of verses were accurate

00:31:19and they were the appropriate ones

00:31:21to use to combat.

00:31:22But I just think he never understood

00:31:25the complexity of the differences

00:31:27and the nuances of the arguments

00:31:29that were involved.

00:31:32And, but to show you how God gave him this sermon,

00:31:35which is not the way ministers

00:31:37are supposed to get their sermons, by the way.

00:31:40God doesn't just give it to you.

00:31:42He gave words to the prophets.

00:31:44He gave revelation to the apostles.

00:31:46That's not how that happens today.

00:31:48In the very first verse,

00:31:50he that dwelleth in the secret place

00:31:52of the Most High.

00:31:53He said, well, the secret place,

00:31:55he said, I looked that up in the Hebrew.

00:31:57And what that means, secret place,

00:32:00is it means a shelter.

00:32:02And I've never looked that up.

00:32:03I don't know whether that's true or not,

00:32:05but it probably is.

00:32:06You know, when he said he looked something up

00:32:08in the Hebrew,

00:32:09I don't, I don't tell things like that.

00:32:11I always will give him the benefit

00:32:12of the doubt then.

00:32:14But then he said,

00:32:15after he looked it up in the Hebrew,

00:32:17what does secret place means,

00:32:19that it means in Hebrew a shelter.

00:32:21Then he asked the Lord.

00:32:23He said, I prayed and said,

00:32:24Lord, what's the meaning of this?

00:32:27And so here we go down that path

00:32:30that you are dependent on your minister now

00:32:34who prayed and asked God to tell him,

00:32:37what does this mean?

00:32:38Now you're just dependent on him.

00:32:40God told him this.

00:32:41And who am I to say God didn't tell him?

00:32:43You know what it is?

00:32:44According to Hobart in his prayer,

00:32:46he said, I asked the Lord

00:32:47and the Lord told me it's the cross

00:32:49and it's the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

00:32:51And I'm going, wait a minute.

00:32:55There was no cross when this psalm was written.

00:32:58There was no baptism of the Holy Spirit.

00:33:00This is so anachronistic.

00:33:03This is before those two events,

00:33:06the cross of Christ

00:33:07and the outpouring of the Holy Spirit

00:33:09ever happened.

00:33:10So there's no way it could mean that

00:33:13because then you're telling me

00:33:14that this psalm had no meaning

00:33:16to any Jewish person

00:33:17back in the days of the psalms.

00:33:19It had zero meaning we have to wait

00:33:22until post Acts 2

00:33:24before they could even claim Psalm 91 in verse 1.

00:33:29It's just a terrible way

00:33:31of trying to understand scripture

00:33:33or exegete a passage

00:33:35to get on our hands and knees

00:33:37and say, Lord, tell me what this means.

00:33:39And then he gives you something

00:33:40way over in the New Testament.

00:33:42So anyway, he just goes along, John,

00:33:45in his exegesis of this

00:33:47and makes his comments,

00:33:50tells his stories.

00:33:51I will say that there are two specific points.

00:33:56They're around the 50-minute mark.

00:33:59I didn't timestamp them exactly,

00:34:01but I will use them in a later podcast

00:34:03when you and I go back

00:34:06and pull explicit, specific, documented things

00:34:11that Hobart got or used

00:34:14from William Branham

00:34:15because there's an old mountain goat

00:34:20on YouTube right now

00:34:22putting out some videos.

00:34:24And he is a dyed-in-the-wool

00:34:26Freemanite follower.

00:34:28And when he heard you and I say,

00:34:30he actually commented

00:34:31on our very first podcast

00:34:32a year and a half ago.

00:34:34And I didn't realize it

00:34:35because that's been a long time ago.

00:34:37But someone recently sent me

00:34:39one of his podcasts and said,

00:34:40hey, Chenna, do you know

00:34:41who this guy is?

00:34:43And when I did a little research,

00:34:44I realized, wow,

00:34:46he's been following us

00:34:47for the last year and a half.

00:34:49He's a dyed-in-the-wool

00:34:50Freemanite,

00:34:51but here's what he also said.

00:34:52He will swear up and down.

00:34:55There's no connection

00:34:56between Hobart Freeman

00:34:57and William Branham.

00:35:00He even did a recent podcast

00:35:02on me.

00:35:03And I think my name

00:35:05is Chinko Ross.

00:35:07I think that's what it is.

00:35:09He couldn't get Chenna.

00:35:10You've only introduced me

00:35:11as Chenna 60 times,

00:35:14you know,

00:35:15but anyway,

00:35:17Chinko Ross,

00:35:19he did a podcast on me

00:35:21saying I'm blaspheming

00:35:24that I'm saying Hobart

00:35:25had some connection

00:35:26to William Branham

00:35:27and that he didn't.

00:35:29Well, we've already

00:35:30documented before

00:35:31and we'll do some formal

00:35:32one of that in the future.

00:35:33But yes,

00:35:34he talks about William Branham

00:35:35twice in this message

00:35:37and some William Branham prophecies,

00:35:41you know,

00:35:41because he loved William Branham.

00:35:42You know,

00:35:43he was a follower of Branham.

00:35:44He came out of Branhamism.

00:35:47But anyway,

00:35:48he'll get down to,

00:35:50look at verse seven.

00:35:52A thousand will fall at thy side

00:35:54and ten thousand at thy right hand,

00:35:56but it will not come nigh thee.

00:35:58And Hobart was a good storyteller,

00:36:00way better than I am.

00:36:01I'd rather teach the Bible

00:36:03and I'm not very good

00:36:04as a storyteller.

00:36:05He's a great storyteller.

00:36:06So he has all these stories.

00:36:08So he tells this story, John,

00:36:10of a man in combat

00:36:12who was a Christian brother.

00:36:14And in combat,

00:36:16he carried a Bible,

00:36:17a whole Bible.

00:36:18That means Old and New Testament,

00:36:20but it's just a pocket version of it

00:36:22in his front chest pocket.

00:36:25And a sniper took a shot at him

00:36:27and the bullet hit him

00:36:29right in his chest

00:36:30and it went through Genesis

00:36:32and Exodus

00:36:33and Leviticus

00:36:34and Numbers

00:36:34and Deuteronomy

00:36:35and worked its way

00:36:37all the way

00:36:38through some historical books,

00:36:40Samuel

00:36:41and Kings

00:36:41and Chronicles.

00:36:42And then it got into Psalms

00:36:44and it went through Psalm 1,

00:36:452,

00:36:463,

00:36:46and 50,

00:36:48and 75,

00:36:49and 80.

00:36:49And then it went through Psalm 90.

00:36:51And then the tip of the bullet

00:36:52stopped on Psalm 91

00:36:55and verse 7.

00:36:58As a 17-year-old,

00:37:00wide-eyed and gullible,

00:37:03I mean,

00:37:03what are you supposed to do

00:37:04with a story like that?

00:37:06But you're just flabbergasted.

00:37:09Here's the problem, John.

00:37:11Here's the problem for ministers.

00:37:13And I'm a minister.

00:37:14I currently teach now.

00:37:17And it is so important.

00:37:19It is so important

00:37:20to be careful what you say.

00:37:22What you say is important

00:37:24to the people

00:37:25that are listening to you.

00:37:27And Hobart Freeman

00:37:29told stories

00:37:30that he never verified.

00:37:32He never checked.

00:37:33And maybe there was no way

00:37:34to validate that,

00:37:36you know?

00:37:37Who knows?

00:37:37I just know

00:37:38he told stories

00:37:39that Branham told.

00:37:40Branham told stories

00:37:41that people before him told.

00:37:43And pretty soon,

00:37:44it becomes absolute fact

00:37:46because it's been repeated

00:37:47so many times.

00:37:49Could that have happened

00:37:51to somebody in history?

00:37:52Of course it could have.

00:37:53But did that actually happen?

00:37:55I would rather doubt it.

00:37:57I'm sure God will

00:37:58protect his people.

00:38:00I'm confident of that.

00:38:01But did he protect

00:38:03this person

00:38:04in that way

00:38:05where the tip

00:38:06of the bullet

00:38:07lodged up against

00:38:09Psalm 91,

00:38:10verse 7,

00:38:11and was not able

00:38:12to penetrate

00:38:12any further?

00:38:13I have my doubts

00:38:16on that one, John.

00:38:17Have you ever wondered

00:38:19how the Pentecostal movement

00:38:20started?

00:38:21Or how the progression

00:38:22of modern Pentecostalism

00:38:24transitioned

00:38:25through the latter reign,

00:38:26charismatic,

00:38:27and other fringe movements

00:38:28into the new

00:38:29apostolic reformation?

00:38:31You can learn this and more

00:38:32on William Branham

00:38:34Historical Research's website,

00:38:36william-branham.org.

00:38:38On the books page

00:38:39of the website,

00:38:40you can find

00:38:41the compiled research

00:38:42of John Collins,

00:38:43Charles Paisley,

00:38:45Stephen Montgomery,

00:38:46John McKinnon,

00:38:47and others,

00:38:48with links to the paper,

00:38:49audio,

00:38:50and digital versions

00:38:51of each book.

00:38:52You can also find

00:38:53resources and documentation

00:38:55on various people

00:38:56and topics related

00:38:57to those movements.

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00:39:17You know,

00:39:17whenever I first left

00:39:19the Branham cult,

00:39:20one of the things

00:39:21that hit me

00:39:22as you and I

00:39:24had talked offline

00:39:25outside of this podcast,

00:39:26the stories

00:39:27are significant,

00:39:29but yet at the same time,

00:39:31it's just

00:39:32kind of unbelievable

00:39:33whenever you

00:39:34take the sum

00:39:35of all of the stories.

00:39:37And me and another guy

00:39:38went through

00:39:39as many

00:39:41of the Branham stories

00:39:42we could remember

00:39:43that were just

00:39:44completely out there.

00:39:46Like,

00:39:46why would he even

00:39:47tell this story?

00:39:48And between the two of us,

00:39:50we come up with a list

00:39:51I want to say

00:39:52it was in the hundreds.

00:39:53I can't remember

00:39:54the exact number,

00:39:55but it was in the hundreds.

00:39:56And he went through

00:39:58the long task

00:39:59of trying to verify

00:40:00most of them,

00:40:02most of the stories

00:40:03are things

00:40:04that can never,

00:40:05ever be proven

00:40:05and probably by design.

00:40:08Some of them were.

00:40:09He's mentioning

00:40:10going into

00:40:11the tombs

00:40:12of the great

00:40:13Old Testament patriarchs,

00:40:16which have never yet

00:40:17been found today,

00:40:18but he claims

00:40:19he's visited there

00:40:20and many

00:40:22of the different things.

00:40:23But in the end,

00:40:26here's the problem.

00:40:27There is a,

00:40:28there's an author

00:40:29of early church history

00:40:32named Eusebius.

00:40:34And we've talked

00:40:34about him before.

00:40:35He walks you

00:40:36through all of the histories.

00:40:37And what happens

00:40:38with stories

00:40:39versus somebody

00:40:41who is trying

00:40:43to remain scriptural

00:40:44is that the stories

00:40:46turn into legends.

00:40:47The legends

00:40:47turned into worship.

00:40:49The worship

00:40:49turns into false gods.

00:40:51False gods

00:40:52turns into human sacrifice.

00:40:53That's the chain

00:40:54of events that happen.

00:40:56And it's not a good chain.

00:40:58I'll just say it like that.

00:40:59But these stories

00:41:01like the

00:41:02I have assurance.

00:41:03I mean,

00:41:04whether he got it

00:41:05from Branham or not,

00:41:06and that's up for debate,

00:41:08it's a story

00:41:09that turned

00:41:10into a doctrine.

00:41:11And out of the many stories

00:41:13that this guy

00:41:14and I went through

00:41:15and looked at,

00:41:16it's odd to me

00:41:17how many of the stories

00:41:19were repeated

00:41:20and given a Bible verse

00:41:22to link it together

00:41:24in a sermon.

00:41:25The Bible verse itself

00:41:26became loaded language

00:41:28in the movement.

00:41:29And when the loaded language

00:41:30stuck with the story,

00:41:31well then,

00:41:32that turns into,

00:41:34because you're

00:41:34in a legalistic movement,

00:41:35that turns into

00:41:36a new rule.

00:41:37And then the new rule

00:41:38will rob some person

00:41:40of their freedom forever.

00:41:43And to think

00:41:43this freedom literally

00:41:45meant that you can't

00:41:46buy insurance.

00:41:47It's just,

00:41:47it's ridiculous.

00:41:48When you take a step back

00:41:50outside of this looking in,

00:41:52people would think,

00:41:52are these people nuts?

00:41:54Why would they do this?

00:41:56And it happened

00:41:57so gradually over time

00:41:59that if Hobart Freeman

00:42:00had just openly introduced

00:42:02this new doctrine

00:42:03as,

00:42:04we will never have

00:42:05insurance again.

00:42:07Everybody would say,

00:42:08you are nuts.

00:42:09But since it came

00:42:11so gradually

00:42:12and given verse context

00:42:14from the Bible,

00:42:15well,

00:42:16out of context,

00:42:17verse matching,

00:42:19I guess,

00:42:19is the better.

00:42:19It's like,

00:42:20it's like doctrine soup.

00:42:21You put a bunch of verses

00:42:22into a bowl,

00:42:23you put a bunch of doctrines

00:42:24in a bowl,

00:42:25stir it up,

00:42:25and what do you get?

00:42:26That's kind of what this is.

00:42:28And that's how my life was,

00:42:30man.

00:42:30Whenever I left this

00:42:32and just started

00:42:32trying to unravel,

00:42:34well,

00:42:34what parts of this

00:42:35were real

00:42:35and what parts

00:42:36were not,

00:42:37it's almost impossible

00:42:39to unravel

00:42:40the real versus

00:42:41the fiction

00:42:42because each piece

00:42:43of fiction

00:42:44was tied to a Bible verse.

00:42:46And the Bible verse

00:42:47is a literal verse,

00:42:48but you have to detangle

00:42:50in your head

00:42:50what that verse means

00:42:51because we had

00:42:52loaded language

00:42:53for all kinds

00:42:55of scattered verses

00:42:56in this alphabet soup doctrine.

00:42:58Yeah,

00:42:59you're so right,

00:42:59John.

00:42:59That's why I said

00:43:00last time

00:43:01people have said,

00:43:03well,

00:43:03I'm willing to give up

00:43:04some of the extremes

00:43:05of Dr. Freeman

00:43:06like faith healing,

00:43:07but I think I learned

00:43:08a lot of good stuff

00:43:09from his biblical theology

00:43:10and I just said

00:43:11it's full of poison,

00:43:12you know.

00:43:14Unfortunately,

00:43:15there are a lot

00:43:16of good things said

00:43:16and as you have said

00:43:17and as I have said,

00:43:19as we have both said

00:43:20over and over,

00:43:21you really have to

00:43:22just stop listening

00:43:23to people,

00:43:24anybody,

00:43:24and just pick up

00:43:25your Bible

00:43:26and just start reading

00:43:27it for yourself.

00:43:28You know,

00:43:29it's terrible.

00:43:30You really can't

00:43:31go back to a minister

00:43:33not like Branham

00:43:34and not like Freeman

00:43:35and try to find

00:43:38the good among the bad

00:43:40because everything

00:43:42was too twisted

00:43:43and I think

00:43:44every minister

00:43:46had some bad in him.

00:43:48Every teacher

00:43:48has something

00:43:49that's not correct,

00:43:51but it's just

00:43:53a different animal

00:43:55that we're dealing with.

00:43:56You can go

00:43:57and listen to,

00:43:58say,

00:43:58Dr. Sinclair Ferguson

00:43:59who is still alive,

00:44:01who's a Scottish

00:44:02Presbyterian theologian,

00:44:04a favorite of mine,

00:44:06I don't think

00:44:07everything that

00:44:08Dr. Ferguson says

00:44:09is right,

00:44:10but I think

00:44:11a lot of what

00:44:11he says is right

00:44:12and I can,

00:44:14I benefit

00:44:14from listening

00:44:16to Dr. Ferguson's

00:44:17lectures for sure.

00:44:19I benefit from that

00:44:20because what it is

00:44:21that I think is wrong,

00:44:22you know,

00:44:23I easily spot

00:44:24and doesn't affect me

00:44:24at all,

00:44:25but that's not

00:44:26the same dynamic

00:44:27that you have

00:44:29if you have been

00:44:30a part of a cult

00:44:31and you're listening

00:44:31to a cult leader.

00:44:32It's not the same dynamic

00:44:33because it doesn't matter

00:44:35what this person says,

00:44:36you're somehow

00:44:37drawn back into,

00:44:39as you just explained

00:44:40so well,

00:44:41just a false feeling

00:44:43or a false interpretation

00:44:44of a verse.

00:44:46And so,

00:44:47as far as this chapter

00:44:48goes in insurance,

00:44:50yeah,

00:44:51I mean,

00:44:51this was an

00:44:52anti-insurance doctrine

00:44:54and chapter

00:44:54at Faith Assembly

00:44:55because insurance

00:44:58is a negative confession.

00:45:01What is insurance

00:45:02but you are purchasing

00:45:04something

00:45:05hoping that

00:45:08such and such

00:45:09bad thing

00:45:10will not happen

00:45:11to you

00:45:11and so you are

00:45:13buying against

00:45:14something bad

00:45:15happened to you

00:45:16and Hobart said,

00:45:17well,

00:45:17that's no different

00:45:18than a negative confession.

00:45:20So see,

00:45:20all of this is tied

00:45:21into positive thinking

00:45:23and confession.

00:45:24Why would you buy insurance?

00:45:26Unless you are confessing,

00:45:28something may go wrong.

00:45:30You might have

00:45:30a car accident.

00:45:31Your house might

00:45:32catch on fire.

00:45:33Might get struck

00:45:34with lightning.

00:45:35Why would you buy insurance?

00:45:36You'd buy insurance

00:45:37thinking that

00:45:39something bad

00:45:39may happen.

00:45:41So he said,

00:45:41no, no, no.

00:45:42You don't need insurance.

00:45:44What you need

00:45:44is assurance

00:45:45and that is protection

00:45:47from the evil

00:45:49ever even happening

00:45:51to you.

00:45:52But here's the problem.

00:45:55Hobart,

00:45:55who didn't have insurance

00:45:57but who did claim

00:45:58Psalm 91

00:45:59had the exact

00:46:01same things

00:46:03happen to him

00:46:04in his life

00:46:05as did people

00:46:07who bought insurance.

00:46:09In other words,

00:46:10he was still stolen from,

00:46:11he was still robbed,

00:46:12things still caught on fire.

00:46:14He tells on this tape

00:46:16several car wrecks

00:46:18that he goes through.

00:46:19He still had car accidents.

00:46:22I thought it said

00:46:24you would be protected

00:46:25from all

00:46:26and every evil.

00:46:28That not a single thing

00:46:30would even come

00:46:31nigh your dwelling.

00:46:33I mean,

00:46:33it wouldn't even come

00:46:34nigh your dwelling.

00:46:36But yet,

00:46:37they happen to Hobart.

00:46:39He tells about the car wrecks

00:46:42on these two tapes,

00:46:45which is just shocking

00:46:47that he would do that,

00:46:48which shows me

00:46:49the massive

00:46:50cognitive dissonance

00:46:52that was in his own mind.

00:46:54Because I don't think

00:46:55he deliberately

00:46:56went through

00:46:58the thought process,

00:47:00John,

00:47:00of,

00:47:01well,

00:47:01I know this hasn't

00:47:02worked for me,

00:47:04but I'm still going

00:47:05to teach it

00:47:05and force this

00:47:07on the people.

00:47:07I don't think he went

00:47:08through those mental steps.

00:47:09I think as he read

00:47:10Psalm 91

00:47:11and claimed Psalm 91,

00:47:13he thought it did work.

00:47:15And as he had

00:47:15a car accident,

00:47:16he went the next morning

00:47:17back to claiming

00:47:18Psalm 91

00:47:19because it works.

00:47:21And when he had

00:47:21his next car accident,

00:47:22he went back

00:47:23to claiming Psalm 91.

00:47:25I don't need any insurance.

00:47:26I've got divine assurance.

00:47:28I say what madness

00:47:29is in a person's mind

00:47:32or probably for him,

00:47:33what cognitive dissonance

00:47:35is in a person's mind.

00:47:36Because look,

00:47:37you mentioned

00:47:38Branham's use of this

00:47:39in Matthew 4

00:47:41about if you throw yourself

00:47:43off the pinnacle

00:47:45of the temple,

00:47:46the angels will bear you up.

00:47:47So that's down

00:47:48in verses 11 and 12.

00:47:52He will give his angels

00:47:53charge over thee

00:47:54to keep thee

00:47:55in all thy ways.

00:47:56They shall bear thee

00:47:57up in their hands

00:47:58lest thou dash thy foot

00:47:59against the stone.

00:48:00So let's go through

00:48:01this exercise

00:48:02as we wind down

00:48:04this morning

00:48:05in this podcast,

00:48:06Sean.

00:48:07Let's say,

00:48:07here's how,

00:48:08here's how this

00:48:09would have happened

00:48:10with a faith assembly member

00:48:12who I give them

00:48:14all the credit.

00:48:15I mean,

00:48:15all they're doing

00:48:16is going to church.

00:48:17They hear this guy

00:48:18teach this beautiful psalm

00:48:20and they think

00:48:21that what he is saying

00:48:22is right.

00:48:23So this young man

00:48:24and his wife

00:48:26who were members

00:48:27of faith assembly

00:48:28back in the mid-1970s

00:48:30before they get out of bed

00:48:31in the morning,

00:48:32you know,

00:48:32the first thing they do

00:48:33is,

00:48:34Lord,

00:48:34we're going to claim

00:48:34and confess Psalm 91.

00:48:36And I am not against

00:48:37confessing

00:48:38and memorizing scripture.

00:48:40That's wonderful

00:48:41and beautiful.

00:48:41And we should all do it.

00:48:43But just make sure

00:48:44we know what the scriptures

00:48:46are teaching

00:48:47and make sure

00:48:47what our minister

00:48:48has been telling us

00:48:49is the truth.

00:48:50And I don't think

00:48:51it was here.

00:48:53So they confess

00:48:55Psalm 91

00:48:55before he gets up

00:48:57and puts his clothes on,

00:48:59eats breakfast

00:48:59and goes to work.

00:49:00And he's got a roofing company.

00:49:03So he's always climbing ladders

00:49:05and he's always working

00:49:06high on people's roof.

00:49:08And so

00:49:09the first day

00:49:12he comes home

00:49:13after work

00:49:14and he tells his wife,

00:49:16praise the Lord

00:49:17for Psalm 91.

00:49:18The Lord protected me today.

00:49:20Said the ladder

00:49:20was really unstable

00:49:22under me today

00:49:23on a job

00:49:24and it started to shift.

00:49:26But I knew

00:49:27I had claimed Psalm 91

00:49:29and so

00:49:29the ladder didn't fall.

00:49:31The ladder stayed there

00:49:32and they go,

00:49:32praise the Lord.

00:49:33Psalm 91 works.

00:49:35The next day

00:49:36he gets up

00:49:37and goes back to work

00:49:38and this day

00:49:39the ladder

00:49:40actually does more than slip.

00:49:42It falls

00:49:43and the young man

00:49:44falls all the way

00:49:44to the ground

00:49:45but he's not injured.

00:49:48And so

00:49:48when he goes home

00:49:49he tells his wife,

00:49:50praise the Lord

00:49:50for Psalm 91.

00:49:52You know,

00:49:52the ladder fell

00:49:53and I hit the ground

00:49:54and I just hit it

00:49:55and I did the double roll

00:49:56and I wasn't hurt at all.

00:49:58Praise God

00:49:59for Psalm 91.

00:50:01The next day

00:50:01he goes to work,

00:50:03has to climb

00:50:03that same ladder.

00:50:05This time

00:50:06the ladder falls

00:50:07and he falls

00:50:08but all he does

00:50:09is he just springs his ankle.

00:50:12And so

00:50:12when he gets home

00:50:13he says,

00:50:13praise the Lord, honey.

00:50:15Again,

00:50:15Psalm 91 worked.

00:50:17We confessed it this morning.

00:50:19God is faithful.

00:50:20The ladder fell,

00:50:21I fell

00:50:21but all I have

00:50:22is a minor injury.

00:50:24The next day

00:50:25he goes to work.

00:50:27The ladder falls again

00:50:28and this time

00:50:29he breaks his arm

00:50:30but when he comes home

00:50:31he says,

00:50:32honey,

00:50:32praise the Lord.

00:50:33We claimed

00:50:35Psalm 91 this morning.

00:50:37The ladder fell

00:50:38but you know,

00:50:39all I have

00:50:40is a broken arm.

00:50:41You know,

00:50:41he protected me

00:50:42and then he goes back

00:50:44the next day

00:50:45and the ladder falls

00:50:47and he has

00:50:48serious,

00:50:49serious injuries

00:50:50but he doesn't die.

00:50:53And so he says,

00:50:54praise the Lord.

00:50:56Psalm 91 does work

00:50:57because the Lord

00:50:58protected me.

00:50:59This is the type

00:51:00of cognitive dissonance

00:51:01that these people

00:51:02are going through

00:51:03and so what happens

00:51:05is as they go

00:51:08through life

00:51:09they have to relax

00:51:10the meaning

00:51:11of Psalm 91

00:51:12based on what

00:51:14their experiences

00:51:14have been

00:51:15and that's not

00:51:17what Psalm 91 says.

00:51:18It says he'll protect you

00:51:19from everything

00:51:21into discussion

00:51:22but that's not reality.

00:51:25Paul went through

00:51:27shipwreck,

00:51:28Trophimus got sick,

00:51:30Timothy had to

00:51:31drink some wine

00:51:32because he often

00:51:33had stomach ailments.

00:51:35When a person

00:51:36has to reinterpret

00:51:38the meaning

00:51:38of Psalm 91

00:51:40to cover

00:51:42for all of the changes

00:51:44in their own experience,

00:51:46then I know

00:51:46that we've got

00:51:47some kind of problem

00:51:49on our hand.

00:51:50And John,

00:51:51when we get to

00:51:52the very end

00:51:53of this psalm,

00:51:55the very last verse

00:51:56makes this promise,

00:51:58with long life

00:51:59will I satisfy him

00:52:01and show him

00:52:03my salvation.

00:52:06When Hobart

00:52:07was claiming this,

00:52:08he was back

00:52:09in his 50s

00:52:10and he would say,

00:52:12God's going to

00:52:13give me a long life

00:52:14and then he would

00:52:15back up to the

00:52:16previous psalm

00:52:17and he would

00:52:18go into Psalm 90

00:52:20and verse 10.

00:52:22I didn't even know

00:52:23there was a verse

00:52:23that said this,

00:52:24but I can remember

00:52:25early on in listening

00:52:26to Dr. Freeman,

00:52:27he was saying

00:52:28that he claimed

00:52:29that he was going

00:52:30to not die

00:52:30before 70

00:52:31because he said

00:52:32there's a verse

00:52:32in the Bible

00:52:33that says that

00:52:34you don't have to die

00:52:35before the age of 70

00:52:37and then lo and behold,

00:52:39there actually,

00:52:40you know,

00:52:40there always is a verse.

00:52:41For everything

00:52:42they teach and say,

00:52:43I promise you,

00:52:44there will be a verse

00:52:45and here is that verse,

00:52:47Psalm 90,

00:52:48written by Moses.

00:52:51The days of our years

00:52:52are three score years

00:52:54and 10

00:52:54and if by reason

00:52:56of strength

00:52:56they be four score.

00:52:58I never heard it read

00:53:00in context.

00:53:00I never even heard

00:53:01the rest of the verse.

00:53:02I only heard the part

00:53:04that they wanted you

00:53:05to hear

00:53:05where Hobart would say,

00:53:07yep,

00:53:07God has promised you 70

00:53:09and then he would love

00:53:10the word,

00:53:11the King James word,

00:53:12yay,

00:53:13Y-E-A,

00:53:1470,

00:53:15yay,

00:53:1580 years.

00:53:17If you will claim

00:53:18the promises.

00:53:19That's not a promise.

00:53:21This is just something

00:53:22that Moses is saying

00:53:24and what is so interesting,

00:53:26John,

00:53:26is if you will read

00:53:27Psalm 90,

00:53:28it's pretty dreadful.

00:53:29If you will read

00:53:30Psalm 90

00:53:31in its context,

00:53:33it is not saying

00:53:35what they're saying.

00:53:36In its context,

00:53:36this is a prayer

00:53:38that Moses is praying

00:53:40to the eternal God,

00:53:42which you see

00:53:43in verses 1 and 2,

00:53:45Lord,

00:53:45you've been our dwelling place

00:53:46in all generations.

00:53:48There's the dwelling place

00:53:49again,

00:53:50by the way.

00:53:51You'll see in verse 4,

00:53:53a thousand years

00:53:54in your sight

00:53:55are as but yesterday.

00:53:57What he is contrasting there

00:54:00is how glorious

00:54:02and eternal God is

00:54:04and how frail

00:54:06and temporary

00:54:07and transient

00:54:08our life is.

00:54:09So when he says

00:54:1170 or 80,

00:54:12he's not saying,

00:54:13oh yeah,

00:54:14you get to live

00:54:15to be 70 or 80.

00:54:16He's saying,

00:54:17if you live

00:54:18to 70 or 80,

00:54:20what have you done?

00:54:21God lives forever.

00:54:23You're just a passing

00:54:24wisp of smoke.

00:54:25That's all any of us

00:54:27are here in life.

00:54:28So they've taken

00:54:30this passage

00:54:31completely out of context

00:54:33and I think

00:54:35these two Psalms

00:54:36really do go together

00:54:38and I don't know

00:54:39whether Psalm 91

00:54:40was written by Moses

00:54:41but I know Psalm 90 was

00:54:43and the context

00:54:45of Psalm 90

00:54:47is that our

00:54:48our whole life

00:54:51and our whole existence

00:54:53is fraught

00:54:54with difficulty

00:54:55and fraught

00:54:56with uncertainty

00:54:57and fraught

00:54:58with dangers

00:54:59all around us.

00:55:01Hence the need

00:55:02for Psalm 91

00:55:03because we don't know

00:55:05what life has for us.

00:55:06we don't know

00:55:07if we're going to fall

00:55:07from the ladder

00:55:08or not

00:55:09and if we fall

00:55:09we don't know

00:55:10how bad

00:55:11the injury will be

00:55:12and if we have

00:55:13a car accident

00:55:14we don't know

00:55:15how bad

00:55:16that will be

00:55:17but we know

00:55:18that our life

00:55:19is fraught

00:55:19with difficulty

00:55:20and fraught

00:55:21with danger.

00:55:21That's the whole

00:55:22message of Psalm 90

00:55:23and hence

00:55:24Psalm 91

00:55:25and in conclusion

00:55:27from my side

00:55:28John

00:55:28it was

00:55:29it was just

00:55:30disingenuous

00:55:30I think

00:55:31for Hobart

00:55:32to use this

00:55:33as

00:55:34a substitute

00:55:37for insurance

00:55:38policies

00:55:39because that's

00:55:40exactly

00:55:40what people

00:55:41went out

00:55:42and did.

00:55:42They went out

00:55:43and canceled

00:55:43all their

00:55:44insurance policies.

00:55:46Hobart

00:55:46is able to tell

00:55:47in this message

00:55:48how he wrecked

00:55:49several luxury

00:55:50sedans

00:55:51big

00:55:52big stretch

00:55:53lead

00:55:54sleds

00:55:54Cadillacs

00:55:55and Lincolns

00:55:56and Olds 98

00:55:57Hobart

00:55:59had enough money

00:56:00to go replace it

00:56:01with another vehicle

00:56:02and the people

00:56:03in his congregation

00:56:04didn't

00:56:05and I just find

00:56:06that to be

00:56:07a terrible trap

00:56:08set by a minister.

00:56:10I think

00:56:11even if you think

00:56:12that's the way

00:56:13life should be

00:56:14you ought to

00:56:15keep that to yourself

00:56:16knowing if I teach

00:56:17this to these people

00:56:19and they go cancel

00:56:20their insurance

00:56:21and something

00:56:21happens to them

00:56:23of course he said

00:56:23well that'd be

00:56:24a negative confession

00:56:25but the fact

00:56:25of the matter

00:56:26is it did happen

00:56:28it did happen

00:56:28to you

00:56:29and you tell us

00:56:30of two car wrecks

00:56:31in your Psalm 91

00:56:32tape

00:56:33and you're not

00:56:34being kind

00:56:35and generous

00:56:35to these people

00:56:36by telling them

00:56:38these things

00:56:38knowing I can go

00:56:39replace my automobile

00:56:41but these people

00:56:42simply can't.

00:56:44So it left people

00:56:45up a creek

00:56:45without a paddle

00:56:46because I've heard

00:56:48the stories of people

00:56:49who canceled

00:56:49health insurance

00:56:50home insurance

00:56:51car insurance

00:56:53had bad things

00:56:54happen

00:56:55and did not

00:56:56have the funds

00:56:57to cover.

00:56:58Your story

00:56:59about the ladder

00:56:59reminded me

00:57:00I know several

00:57:02people who were

00:57:03in this type

00:57:04of religion

00:57:04whether it's

00:57:05Branamite or not

00:57:06they're

00:57:06interestingly

00:57:07it's a

00:57:07it's a widespread

00:57:08thing

00:57:09and the guy

00:57:12had the same

00:57:12attitude towards

00:57:13his healing

00:57:14and his safety

00:57:15but the ladders

00:57:17was so riddled

00:57:18and filled

00:57:19with duct tape

00:57:20to hold it

00:57:20together

00:57:21and like it

00:57:22I'm surprised

00:57:23that the thing

00:57:24was still usable

00:57:25and he would

00:57:26go up on it

00:57:27and you know

00:57:29it's like an

00:57:30OSHA nightmare

00:57:31you don't trust

00:57:32that the ladder

00:57:33is going to

00:57:33keep you up

00:57:34but you're

00:57:35testing the faith

00:57:36and I never

00:57:38really understood

00:57:39the depths

00:57:40of what that

00:57:40meant until I

00:57:41was out of the

00:57:42cold

00:57:42I was talking

00:57:42to this guy

00:57:43and he says

00:57:43oh you were

00:57:44in a Mark

00:57:4516 religion

00:57:46and I said

00:57:47what?

00:57:48what's that?

00:57:48and I'd heard

00:57:49Mark 16

00:57:49all my life

00:57:50growing up

00:57:51over and over

00:57:52and over

00:57:52Mark 16

00:57:53this

00:57:53Mark 16

00:57:54that

00:57:54and he says

00:57:55well that's

00:57:55that's the type

00:57:56of religion

00:57:57where they focus

00:57:58on one verse

00:57:58and they want

00:57:59to test God

00:58:00and I never

00:58:02really thought

00:58:02about it

00:58:03until he said

00:58:04it

00:58:04that's exactly

00:58:05what we were

00:58:06doing

00:58:06we were just

00:58:07testing God

00:58:08and then

00:58:09take it a step

00:58:10further

00:58:11I started

00:58:12down paths

00:58:14of research

00:58:14like you

00:58:15wouldn't believe

00:58:15about what

00:58:17that meant

00:58:17in history

00:58:18what did it

00:58:19mean to test

00:58:19God

00:58:20and there

00:58:21I've talked

00:58:22about this

00:58:22I think

00:58:22with you

00:58:23but there

00:58:24were

00:58:24I found

00:58:25court cases

00:58:25where there

00:58:26were companies

00:58:27making a

00:58:28killing

00:58:28a lot

00:58:29of money

00:58:29well

00:58:29killing

00:58:30figuratively

00:58:31and literally

00:58:33because they

00:58:34were producing

00:58:35I think it

00:58:38was strychnine

00:58:38some type

00:58:40of poison

00:58:40that they

00:58:41would give

00:58:41the Pentecostals

00:58:42and Pentecostals

00:58:43could test

00:58:44God

00:58:44with this

00:58:44and it

00:58:45was

00:58:45it was

00:58:46actually

00:58:46bottled

00:58:46as a

00:58:47religious

00:58:47poison

00:58:48and they

00:58:49were selling

00:58:49it as a

00:58:50religious

00:58:50poison

00:58:50until

00:58:51government

00:58:51stepped in

00:58:52and said

00:58:52you probably

00:58:53shouldn't

00:58:53do that

00:58:54but we

00:58:56were in

00:58:56a Mark

00:58:5716

00:58:57religion

00:58:58we were

00:58:58testing

00:58:58God

00:58:59and

00:59:00whenever

00:59:01I really

00:59:02started

00:59:03piecing

00:59:04all of

00:59:04this puzzle

00:59:05together

00:59:05it finally

00:59:07hit me

00:59:08it was

00:59:09a religion

00:59:09that had

00:59:10great

00:59:10opposition

00:59:11you had

00:59:12denominations

00:59:13who really

00:59:13some of

00:59:14the scholars

00:59:15and some

00:59:15of the

00:59:16theologians

00:59:16in that

00:59:17denomination

00:59:18knew their

00:59:19Bibles inside

00:59:19and out

00:59:20and they

00:59:20knew the

00:59:21misapplication

00:59:22that was

00:59:22happening

00:59:22they had

00:59:24some doctrine

00:59:24that probably

00:59:25didn't agree

00:59:25with the

00:59:26main

00:59:26hardcore

00:59:27faith healing

00:59:28sects

00:59:29but

00:59:30they were

00:59:31more

00:59:31scripturally

00:59:32sound

00:59:32in many

00:59:33cases

00:59:33than this

00:59:34and so

00:59:36these

00:59:36people

00:59:37who

00:59:37did

00:59:37not

00:59:38have

00:59:38any

00:59:38scriptural

00:59:39theology

00:59:40sound

00:59:41doctrinal

00:59:42teaching

00:59:43they wanted

00:59:44to fight

00:59:45and the way

00:59:46that they

00:59:46fought

00:59:47is

00:59:47look

00:59:47see

00:59:47I can

00:59:48do

00:59:48this

00:59:48and I'm

00:59:49right

00:59:49I can

00:59:49do this

00:59:50and I can

00:59:51pick up a

00:59:51serpent

00:59:52I can

00:59:52drink

00:59:53poison

00:59:53and it

00:59:54turned into

00:59:55this thing

00:59:56that spun

00:59:57off into

00:59:58I don't know

00:59:58if I've told

00:59:58you this

00:59:59or not

00:59:59but I have

01:00:00evidence that

01:00:01William Branham

01:00:02and his

01:00:02mentor

01:00:03and clan

01:00:03leader

01:00:04Roy Davis

01:00:04were doing

01:00:06the strychnine

01:00:07poison thing

01:00:08in front of

01:00:08crowds

01:00:09and I've

01:00:11even had

01:00:11people from

01:00:12old churches

01:00:12in Kentucky

01:00:13email me

01:00:14or some

01:00:14of them

01:00:15call me

01:00:15and say

01:00:16I'm fairly

01:00:17certain it

01:00:17was William

01:00:17Branham

01:00:18that taught

01:00:18our church

01:00:18how to

01:00:19drink poison

01:00:19and I

01:00:21have spoken

01:00:22with

01:00:23there's a

01:00:23guy in

01:00:24Cincinnati

01:00:24who I

01:00:26guess he

01:00:26lost part

01:00:26of his

01:00:27hand

01:00:27with a

01:00:27snake

01:00:28he was in

01:00:28the snake

01:00:29handling

01:00:29sect

01:00:29and he

01:00:30had

01:00:31a big

01:00:32some sort

01:00:33of a big

01:00:34like

01:00:36I don't

01:00:37know

01:00:37furniture

01:00:37store

01:00:38or something

01:00:38like this

01:00:38he's

01:00:39relatively

01:00:40famous

01:00:40in Cincinnati

01:00:41well he

01:00:42was part

01:00:42of this

01:00:42movement

01:00:43he would

01:00:43travel with

01:00:43Branham

01:00:44all throughout

01:00:45and apparently

01:00:46Branham

01:00:46was working

01:00:47in collaboration

01:00:48with this

01:00:48all of this

01:00:49to say

01:00:50you've got

01:00:51such extremes

01:00:53that people

01:00:53will pick up

01:00:54a snake

01:00:54knowing that

01:00:55that snake

01:00:55could hurt

01:00:56them

01:00:56and

01:00:57doing it

01:00:58simply

01:00:59for the

01:00:59fact

01:00:59to test

01:01:00God

01:01:00to prove

01:01:01a point

01:01:01to people

01:01:02who aren't

01:01:03in the

01:01:03movement

01:01:03and whenever

01:01:05it gets to

01:01:05that level

01:01:06it is not

01:01:07it's no longer

01:01:08religion

01:01:08it's really a

01:01:09fight

01:01:09you're picking

01:01:09a fight

01:01:10and you're

01:01:10trying to

01:01:11instigate a

01:01:11fight

01:01:12and what

01:01:13how do you

01:01:14relate

01:01:14how do you

01:01:15say that

01:01:16Christianity

01:01:16is a fight

01:01:17you know

01:01:18it's not

01:01:18how Christianity

01:01:19works

01:01:20but sadly

01:01:21many of the

01:01:21people are

01:01:22in this

01:01:22and they

01:01:23teach like

01:01:24that

01:01:24right

01:01:24so

01:01:25where I

01:01:26came

01:01:27where I

01:01:27landed

01:01:27after all

01:01:28of this

01:01:28Mark 16

01:01:29I started

01:01:30studying

01:01:31and there

01:01:32are scholars

01:01:33who claim

01:01:33that it

01:01:34was not

01:01:34in part

01:01:34of the

01:01:35original

01:01:35manuscripts

01:01:36and it

01:01:37was an

01:01:37addition

01:01:37whether you

01:01:39believe that

01:01:39or whether

01:01:40you don't

01:01:41you can

01:01:41see clearly

01:01:42that people

01:01:43took the

01:01:44ending of

01:01:44Mark 16

01:01:45and focused

01:01:46on it

01:01:47more heavily

01:01:47than the

01:01:48entire rest

01:01:49of the

01:01:50Bible

01:01:50and they

01:01:51learned it

01:01:52pretty well

01:01:53they learned

01:01:54that yes

01:01:54I can

01:01:54the Bible

01:01:55says I can

01:01:56pick up a

01:01:56snake

01:01:56so I'm

01:01:56going to

01:01:57do it

01:01:57but then

01:01:57ignored

01:01:58every other

01:01:59thing that

01:01:59the Bible

01:02:00says about

01:02:00don't test

01:02:02the angels

01:02:02man

01:02:03if you have

01:02:04a guardian

01:02:04angel

01:02:04don't run

01:02:05them through

01:02:05the mill

01:02:06and it

01:02:07it also

01:02:08reminds me

01:02:08I have a

01:02:09friend

01:02:09in fact

01:02:10I just

01:02:10went to

01:02:11see him

01:02:11and I

01:02:12saw the

01:02:12dang

01:02:12fan

01:02:13but growing

01:02:14up

01:02:14he had

01:02:15this metal

01:02:15fan from

01:02:16must have

01:02:17been the

01:02:171930s

01:02:18or 40s

01:02:19and back

01:02:20then

01:02:21a fan

01:02:22that blows

01:02:22air

01:02:23did not

01:02:24have the

01:02:25slats

01:02:25that keep

01:02:26you from

01:02:26putting your

01:02:26fingers in

01:02:27it

01:02:27and we're

01:02:28talking a

01:02:29thick

01:02:30thick metal

01:02:31fan that's

01:02:32spinning around

01:02:33that's wide

01:02:33open

01:02:34and I

01:02:35remember

01:02:36testing it

01:02:36one time

01:02:37and it'll

01:02:37hurt your

01:02:37finger pretty

01:02:38good

01:02:38but if you

01:02:41are a small

01:02:41child and you

01:02:42test it

01:02:42you could

01:02:43actually lose

01:02:43a finger

01:02:44it's really

01:02:44dangerous

01:02:45so you

01:02:47know you

01:02:48could test

01:02:48like Mark

01:02:4916 and

01:02:50say well

01:02:50my child

01:02:51is not

01:02:52gonna stick

01:02:52his finger

01:02:53in that

01:02:54fan and if

01:02:54he does

01:02:55God will

01:02:55protect it

01:02:56I'm gonna

01:02:57test God

01:02:58but who

01:02:59would do

01:02:59that to

01:02:59their little

01:03:00child

01:03:00nobody does

01:03:01this to

01:03:01their little

01:03:02child

01:03:02and yet

01:03:03we're supposed

01:03:03to have

01:03:04childlike

01:03:04faith

01:03:05so you

01:03:06have these

01:03:06ministers

01:03:06that are

01:03:07treating us

01:03:08worse than

01:03:09you should

01:03:09even treat

01:03:10your own

01:03:11child

01:03:11and the

01:03:12whole thing

01:03:12just in

01:03:13the end

01:03:13I realized

01:03:14that I

01:03:14can't be

01:03:14in a

01:03:15religion

01:03:15that literally

01:03:16doctrines

01:03:17were created

01:03:18to pick a

01:03:18fight with

01:03:19someone

01:03:19yeah John

01:03:20and I

01:03:21didn't know

01:03:21if you

01:03:21would just

01:03:22give me

01:03:22another

01:03:23minute or

01:03:23so and I'll

01:03:24be through

01:03:24I never

01:03:24knew we

01:03:25would make

01:03:26a trip

01:03:28around the

01:03:28world and

01:03:29end on

01:03:29Mark 16

01:03:30I thought

01:03:31of it

01:03:31often and

01:03:32I thought

01:03:32I don't

01:03:32know how

01:03:33that's

01:03:33gonna ever

01:03:33tie in

01:03:34but what

01:03:35a great

01:03:35job you

01:03:35just did

01:03:36to tie

01:03:36in on

01:03:37two parts

01:03:38on textual

01:03:39criticism

01:03:40and manuscript

01:03:40evidence

01:03:41for one

01:03:41there's

01:03:42called the

01:03:42shorter

01:03:43and the

01:03:44long

01:03:44longer

01:03:45the short

01:03:45and long

01:03:46ending

01:03:46of the

01:03:46gospel of

01:03:47Mark

01:03:47and there

01:03:47is

01:03:48definitely

01:03:49pretty

01:03:50balanced

01:03:51scholarly

01:03:51debate

01:03:52over

01:03:52whether

01:03:52that

01:03:53should

01:03:54have

01:03:54been

01:03:54in

01:03:54Mark's

01:03:54gospel

01:03:55and I'll

01:03:57say the

01:03:57same as

01:03:57you

01:03:58whether it

01:03:58is or not

01:03:59I don't

01:03:59have any

01:04:00problem with

01:04:00it being

01:04:01there

01:04:01I don't

01:04:01see anything

01:04:02there

01:04:02that's not

01:04:03at least

01:04:04in

01:04:05history

01:04:06like in

01:04:07Paul's

01:04:07life

01:04:08seen over

01:04:09in Acts

01:04:09chapter 28

01:04:11so I don't

01:04:12have a

01:04:12problem with

01:04:13the ending

01:04:13of Mark

01:04:14at all

01:04:15but what I

01:04:15often wondered

01:04:17in Dr.

01:04:18Freeman's

01:04:18ministry

01:04:18is why

01:04:20they didn't

01:04:21pick up

01:04:22snakes

01:04:22because he

01:04:24100%

01:04:25believed in

01:04:26the what we

01:04:26call the

01:04:27long ending

01:04:28and people

01:04:28are going to

01:04:29turn to

01:04:29Mark 16

01:04:30to see what

01:04:31we're talking

01:04:31about

01:04:31it's the

01:04:32section that

01:04:33said these

01:04:34signs will

01:04:34follow those

01:04:35that believe

01:04:36and it talks

01:04:37about healing

01:04:37it talks about

01:04:38speaking in

01:04:39tongues

01:04:39it talks about

01:04:40serpents

01:04:41and it talks

01:04:41about poison

01:04:42but in the

01:04:43passage there

01:04:44where it talks

01:04:44about serpents

01:04:45it says

01:04:46you shall

01:04:48pick up

01:04:49deadly serpents

01:04:50it's almost

01:04:51like it's

01:04:52telling us

01:04:53you shall

01:04:53do it

01:04:53and so

01:04:54what has

01:04:54happened

01:04:55in eastern

01:04:56Kentucky

01:04:57but Pentecostal

01:04:58cults have

01:04:59said yep

01:04:59we're gonna

01:05:00we're gonna

01:05:01obey this

01:05:02verse

01:05:02like it's

01:05:03a command

01:05:03we're gonna

01:05:04obey this

01:05:04verse

01:05:05and their

01:05:05whole group

01:05:07is founded

01:05:08you better

01:05:08believe it

01:05:09it's not

01:05:09around

01:05:10biblical

01:05:10doctrine

01:05:10they are

01:05:11a snake

01:05:12handling

01:05:12church

01:05:13and Hobart

01:05:15talked about

01:05:16it and he

01:05:16said well

01:05:17now that

01:05:17doesn't mean

01:05:18that you're

01:05:18supposed to

01:05:18pick up

01:05:19snakes

01:05:20but if it

01:05:20happens to

01:05:21happen

01:05:22or occur

01:05:22like it

01:05:23did with

01:05:23Paul

01:05:24over on

01:05:25the island

01:05:25of Melita

01:05:26in Acts

01:05:2628

01:05:27and you

01:05:27get bitten

01:05:28then you

01:05:28won't die

01:05:29I think

01:05:30that's a

01:05:31better way

01:05:31to interpret

01:05:32it than

01:05:32to take

01:05:33it as a

01:05:33command

01:05:34to go

01:05:34and do

01:05:35but I

01:05:36just thought

01:05:36you know

01:05:37it's

01:05:37interesting

01:05:38that

01:05:39it does

01:05:40have

01:05:40this

01:05:41prescription

01:05:41for

01:05:42divine

01:05:42protection

01:05:43I mean

01:05:44why not

01:05:44apply

01:05:45Psalm

01:05:4591

01:05:46to

01:05:47Mark

01:05:4716

01:05:48and go

01:05:49ahead

01:05:49and pick

01:05:50up your

01:05:50snakes

01:05:50and drink

01:05:51your poison

01:05:51because it

01:05:52seems like

01:05:53Psalm 91

01:05:54will protect

01:05:55you from

01:05:55that

01:05:55well of course

01:05:56it won't

01:05:57because as you

01:05:57just said

01:05:58John

01:05:58that is

01:05:59definitely

01:05:59tempting

01:06:00God

01:06:00and I

01:06:01think

01:06:01canceling

01:06:02all of

01:06:02your

01:06:03insurance

01:06:03policies

01:06:04based on

01:06:05Psalm 91

01:06:06is no

01:06:07different

01:06:08than someone

01:06:09drinking

01:06:10poison

01:06:10or picking

01:06:11up a

01:06:11snake

01:06:12to fulfill

01:06:13the long

01:06:14ending

01:06:14of Mark

01:06:1416

01:06:15well there's

01:06:16so much

01:06:16more that I

01:06:17could say

01:06:17there

01:06:17and I

01:06:18just

01:06:18actually

01:06:19you probably

01:06:19saw me

01:06:20do it

01:06:20I just

01:06:20actually

01:06:20bit my

01:06:21tongue

01:06:21I wanted

01:06:22to go

01:06:22deeper

01:06:22but we'll

01:06:23save that

01:06:23one for

01:06:24another day

01:06:24thanks for

01:06:25doing this

01:06:25thanks for

01:06:26having me

01:06:27John

01:06:27well if

01:06:28you've

01:06:28enjoyed our

01:06:28show and

01:06:29you want

01:06:29more

01:06:29information

01:06:29you can

01:06:30check us

01:06:30out on

01:06:30the web

01:06:31you can

01:06:31find us

01:06:31at

01:06:32william-branham.org

01:06:33for more

01:06:34about the

01:06:34dark side

01:06:35of the

01:06:35new

01:06:35apostolic

01:06:35reformation

01:06:36you can

01:06:36read

01:06:37weaponized

01:06:37religion

01:06:38from

01:06:38Christian

01:06:38identity

01:06:39to

01:06:39the

01:06:40NAR

01:06:40available

01:06:41on

01:06:41Amazon

01:06:42Kindle

01:06:42and

01:06:42Audible

01:07:04to

01:07:06Audible

01:07:07to

01:07:08a

01:07:09house

01:07:09to

01:07:11a

01:07:12house

01:07:13and

01:07:13to

01:07:15a

01:07:17house

01:07:18to

01:07:19a

01:07:21house

01:07:22to

01:07:23a

01:07:24house

01:07:25to

01:07:26a

01:07:27house

01:07:29to

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