Trump and Zelensky discuss Tomahawk missiles in US meeting _ BBC News

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00:00a few weeks ago in New York when you two met you said that you think Ukraine

00:04could ultimately take back all the territory that it's lost so far do you

00:07still think that's the case or do you think they'll have to be some sort of

00:09you never know you know war is very interesting you never know do you you

00:13just never know with war war and peace but you never know

00:19yeah it continues using similar cruise missiles like caliber yeah who are you

00:28with who are you in Ukraine but Russia continue even using the cruise cruise

00:36missiles and also nuclear capable ballistic missiles in Ukraine since

00:402022 so do you consider providing Ukraine with the Tomahawk or similar missiles as

00:48an opportunity to equalize the possibilities of Ukraine and Russia

00:53and push most of the negotiations yeah sure we're going to be talking about

00:57that that's why we're here okay fair question exactly as he told you to say

01:03it but we're going to be talking about it okay yeah please you said India and

01:11Hungary that's an interesting India and it's an interesting combination well

01:21India is not going to be buying Russian oil anymore and Hungary is sort of stuck

01:28because they have one pipeline it's been there for years and years and years and

01:33they're inland they don't have sea they don't have sea and I spoke with the very

01:38great leader of Hungary and they are you know it's very hard for them to get oil I

01:44understand it we have hungries in a very interesting position because they can't

01:49have ports you know they're surrounded by land so we'll see what happens there but

01:55India will not be buying oil from Russia and they've already de-escalated and

02:01they've more or less stopped they're pulling back they bought about 38% of the oil and

02:07they won't be doing it anymore

02:10has been helping you in achieving peace in Ukraine who is first lady Melania

02:16from helping and returning abducted abducted Ukrainian children from Russian

02:21captivity present Zelensky do you appreciate those efforts how do you

02:25assess them and did you ask her to step in and to help you now she wanted to do it

02:30she's very strongly about the children and she's done a really good job I think in in

02:39bringing it to the fore you know we have a lot of children involved now it's some

02:44people say it's 20,000 and some people say it's 300 there's a big difference

02:49between that so nobody really knows but but she felt very strongly about the

02:54children she thinks about the children all the time okay tomahawks to Ukraine

03:02what's gonna happen if the United States isn't a conflict and we need the tomahawk

03:08well that's that's the problem we need tomahawks and we need a lot of other

03:13things that we've been sending over the last four years to Ukraine we've been you

03:18know we gave we gave them a lot now we have a different situation we sent it to

03:21the European Union they pay for it and all that and they have plenty of money but

03:26we it's beyond the money you know we need tomahawks so we need a lot of other

03:31weapons that we're sending to Ukraine one of the reasons we want to get this war

03:35over is exactly that it's not easy for us to give you talking about massive

03:40numbers of very powerful weapons so that's one of the things we'll be talking

03:45about hopefully they won't need it hopefully we'll be able to get the war over

03:48with without thinking about tomahawks I think I think we're fair I think we're

03:54fairly close to that yeah please just to understand so for today of course we

04:05want to finish this war but the war is another technological war you don't use

04:10just tomahawks if you want to targeting military goal you need thousands of

04:17drones it goes together with such missiles Ukraine has such thousands of

04:23our production drones but we don't have tomahawks that's why we need tomahawks

04:27but the United States is a very strong production and the United States has

04:35tomahawks and other missiles very strong missiles but they can have our thousands of

04:40drones that's why where we can work together where we can strengthen American

04:46production and so so just so that I understand so you're suggesting kind of

04:50a trade if president Trump okays tomahawk missiles to help you launch yes it's

04:56about military goals then it's only about military goals right but then you

05:00would authorize some kind of an exchange with us of course yes we have

05:05proposition yeah we have we have big proposition with our drones president Trump

05:09I don't mean to be brokering an arm steel here is that something that you'd be

05:14interested in Ukraine yeah we would we have a lot of drones right now we build

05:18our own drones but we also buy drones from others and they make a very good

05:23drone I mean we drone warfare has really come to the fore over the last couple of

05:28years because of this war I will say there's nothing like the jets you know we

05:34locked out a lot of drones in Israel we would knocking them out for Israel and we

05:40were doing it with extremely fast and powerful jets following the drones and

05:45knocking the hell out of them so it's you know if we've we know a lot about the

05:50drones and we know a lot about the great jets the great ones the ones well and the

05:55B-52s which were totally under it was stealth they were undetectable so we have a lot of

06:00different weapons and you know we I have an obligation also though to make sure that

06:05we're completely stocked up as a country because you never know what's going to

06:10happen in war and peace right you never know what's going to happen so we're going

06:16to be talking about tomahawks and would much rather have them not need tomahawks

06:22would much rather have the war be over to be honest because you know we're in it to

06:27get the war over we're not we're selling a lot of different types of weapon as you

06:35know to the European Union we're not in it for that we're in it to get it over we're

06:39losing thousands of people a week thousands of people Russian Ukrainian and mostly soldiers

06:45I mean mostly soldiers but we're in it to see that end and if we can end quickly and

06:52I think we can I mean I had a very good talk yesterday we're going to be talking about

06:56it but I had a very productive talk yesterday with President Putin we'll see what happens

07:01but the war in the Middle East was far more complicated we got that one done and I think

07:07we have a good chance I think President Zelensky wants it done and I think President Putin want

07:12it done now all they have to do is get along a little bit

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