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00:00I don't remember how old I was, but I was a teenager, and I used to listen to his music on the radio.
00:09First I saw his dad, and then I saw him, and he's here with you guys tonight.
00:16This will be the last time you see him perform, but you're not going to see the last of him,
00:21because now he's going to be doing things to help our country and to help the state of Texas.
00:25Ladies and gentlemen, Grammy Award winner, mi amigo, Bobby Pulido.
00:50You're a Republican, would you vote for Bobby?
00:52I would vote for Bobby.
00:54Do you think Bobby Pulido can win here?
00:56I think he has a damn good chance in Gonzalez County.
01:00Thank you.
01:03If the people want me here, and they believe I best represent them, I'm perfectly comfortable never singing again.
01:12Somos y caballeros!
01:14Mr. Bobby Pulido!
01:16We are headed to Cuero, Texas, deep in Trump country, to meet international superstar Tejano music singer Bobby Pulido.
01:40He was launched into stardom in 1995 with the song Desvelado.
01:47Ever since then, he's been traveling the country and the world with his music.
01:52But now, after a 30-year career, he is jumping into politics.
02:00So great to meet you, Rosa Flores, with MSNBC.
02:03Nice to meet you.
02:04I've seen you on TV.
02:05Well, in full transparency, I'm from the Rio Grande Valley.
02:09Thanks for coming.
02:09No, thank you so much for doing this and for allowing us to join you, you know, for a few days to get to know you.
02:16Not just the Bobby Pulido, but the politics of Bobby Pulido now.
02:19Yeah.
02:20Looking forward to it.
02:22Tell us a little bit about what you're going to do today.
02:24I'm meeting with a Democratic club.
02:28That's what they call them, the clubs.
02:29It's a club of Lavaca County and Cuero, which is in this county here is DeWitt.
02:38I've played in Victoria a lot, which is not too far from here, about 30 minutes.
02:42But we've never come out to the areas, to these rural areas.
02:46I'm a rural guy, but never been to this rural neck of the woods.
02:49Yeah.
02:50So I'm looking forward to it.
02:52This is, we're listening to people and trying to get to know the people because of this gerrymandering.
02:59There's a lot of different needs up here than there are down there.
03:02Yeah.
03:02Well, this county was added because of the gerrymandering.
03:05It was added.
03:05Yes, it was added.
03:06So, so.
03:08Adds a little challenge for you, maybe?
03:10I think it's a challenge for anybody.
03:13But, you know what?
03:16You got to go where the people are at and go talk to them.
03:18And I believe in the old ways of just going and listening to people and talking and running it more like a local campaign.
03:26Now, do you get a little nervous?
03:28Is this different?
03:29Is this different than performing?
03:30Not at all.
03:31No.
03:32No, not at all.
03:33I'm not nervous about that at all.
03:35Yeah.
03:35It's just about meeting people, talking to them and seeing what are their concerns.
03:43Oh, thank you.
03:44Yes.
03:48Thank you, sir.
03:49Yeah, man.
03:50I appreciate it.
03:50Good to meet you.
03:51Good to meet you.
03:51All right.
03:51Thank you.
03:52I bet you get that a lot.
03:53Yeah.
03:55Especially in the Mexican restaurants.
03:57Yeah.
04:01Hello.
04:02Hi.
04:02You got me on the little.
04:04I did.
04:05I was trying to be secret.
04:07That's okay.
04:08But, hey, I got a trained eye right there.
04:11Do you want me to take one with the group?
04:13Sure.
04:16Yes.
04:17Good to see you.
04:20Good to see you.
04:22Hello.
04:23How are you doing, sir?
04:24All right, sir.
04:24Bobby Pulido.
04:25Nice to meet you.
04:25Bobby.
04:26Yes.
04:27Nice to meet you.
04:27Same here.
04:28How are you doing?
04:30Bobby Pulido?
04:32Peter Ortiz.
04:33Nice to meet you.
04:33I want to thank you all for letting us come in on your meeting.
04:38My name is Bobby Pulido.
04:40My real name is Jose Roberto Pulido, Jr.
04:44I'm the son of Roberto Pulido.
04:45A lot of people that are Hispanic probably know who he is.
04:49I formed an exploratory committee to run for U.S. Congress for District 15.
04:55I really wanted to travel up and down the district to meet people because the district is really, really vast.
05:03It's 11 counties.
05:05I'm a singer.
05:06That's what I, that's been my job for the last 30 years.
05:10And I love my life, but I love my kids and I love my family more than even my life.
05:17I've always been a Democrat and it's very tough right now to be a Democrat.
05:22And I can only imagine up here where you don't have any elected Democrats.
05:27and so in order to win, we're going to have to bring over a lot of people that voted the other way.
05:34We can't rely just on turnout.
05:36We have to rely on policy.
05:37We have to explain to people why our policies are better
05:41and why I'm here to talk to you and for you to get to know me.
05:45And if everything works out, then I, hopefully I can be your candidate.
05:52Thank you.
05:59I know you had some concerns or some questions.
06:02We know you're a musician and you've dedicated most of your life to that.
06:06Yes.
06:06But could you tell us a little more about some of the positions that you have political?
06:13Health care is through the roof.
06:15That's one of my biggest things.
06:16I don't have health insurance.
06:18And I'll tell you, if you go ask most of the majority of the musicians in my field,
06:23they don't have health insurance either.
06:26And I say this and I say this not proudly,
06:29but I've had to go get my health insurance in Mexico because it's more affordable.
06:33And we live in a first world country.
06:36We're not able to offer people first world health insurance or health care
06:41because it's too expensive.
06:42They're squeezing the people.
06:43And that's a big fight that I want to have.
06:47Another thing is immigration reform.
06:50And I say that because I live on the border.
06:52And a lot of times you look at immigration as just a humanitarian issue,
06:58which it is, but it's also an economic one.
07:01And down there in the Rio Grande Valley, because of what happened now, nobody's coming.
07:10Our tourism has gone way down because they feel disrespected.
07:14People are not coming into this country anymore because they're afraid to get questioned by ICE,
07:19to get questioned by how they look, to get threatened about they may take away their visa.
07:26And it's hurting our economy.
07:29They solved the border issue with fear.
07:32But I don't believe in solving it with fear.
07:34You solve it with policy.
07:35Do you talk politics when you're on stage?
07:39I don't.
07:40Okay.
07:41And I never have.
07:42But it's important not to talk to politics, but to talk to vote.
07:48You need to say or ask your audience.
07:55To be more engaged.
07:56To be, yeah, to be more active.
07:58Get proactive instead of reactive.
08:02Don't just sit back and wait until everybody tells you how to vote.
08:06Yes, I've been very careful throughout my career about not getting political on stage.
08:11Not politically.
08:12Right.
08:12But that's a very fair point.
08:14That's a very fair point.
08:16Politically, are you going to be pro-choice?
08:18I'm going to tell you this.
08:20Because I'm real interested in hearing your answer.
08:23I'm going to tell you God's honest truth.
08:26Good.
08:27Right?
08:27Yeah.
08:28I am personally pro-life.
08:30Okay.
08:30Personally.
08:31Right?
08:32I'm a Catholic, Axe brother.
08:34I'm a Catholic before anything.
08:37Hmm.
08:38I don't believe I can tell somebody what they can do with their body.
08:43Because everybody has a different situation.
08:46Then you're pro-choice.
08:47I am personally pro-life.
08:49If my son were to get somebody pregnant, as his father, I would tell...
08:54Well, that's going to be a tough one.
08:55I'm just telling you...
08:56I mean, I respect the fact...
08:59From a policy perspective, it's not my point.
09:01It's not my place to tell you.
09:02If you feel like you can't tell me what to do, then you need to make your stance, your pro-choice.
09:12Because what you do in your personal life is your business.
09:17Because I don't want someone telling me what I can do with my body.
09:21Or my granddaughter.
09:23Yes, I appreciate that.
09:24But here's the thing that I can tell you is there's a lot of people that think pro-choice means you're for killing babies.
09:32That's how they view it.
09:33How many people do you think in the world want to kill a baby?
09:39Really?
09:40I mean, now a teenager, you might want to kill.
09:44But no one wants to kill a baby because the baby's precious.
09:49If they're ever going to be cute, it's going to be when they're a baby.
09:54But, you know, this deal, and it's going to get worse because now we have removed the fact that preachers can tell you how to vote from the pulpit.
10:07I think we're looking forward to you developing your platform after you've heard not just us,
10:14but all the communities that have not had their voices heard in the past.
10:19We vote and vote and vote, and we're always outnumbered.
10:23It's difficult.
10:24We'd like someone to go fight for us.
10:26I understand.
10:27Yeah, I understand the frustration.
10:30We've got to fight.
10:32It's very important to activate, get out there, and we've got to win on policy, too.
10:39We cannot just expect to win on turnout.
10:41We have to win on policy.
10:42We have to explain why we're better and put that message out.
10:47Great dialogue.
10:48Great dialogue.
10:49Thank you again.
10:50Thank you, Mayor.
10:50Thank you for coming, Quirrell.
10:51Appreciate it.
10:51But I understand you're going to the game tonight.
10:53I am.
10:53All right.
10:54Uh-oh.
10:56Here we go.
10:57I already know what's coming.
10:58All right.
10:59So I was asked to call Mayor O'Neill because, I mean, you know, Yoakum.
11:04From Yoakum.
11:04Yeah.
11:04And what I told him was this.
11:06When he was on his way to Victoria, he says, well, tell him I'm going to be out today, but I do want to meet him.
11:12And so I'm sending that message to you.
11:13Okay.
11:14And I said, by the way, Mayor, I said, he's going to the ball game tonight.
11:19I said, and I'm going to beat you.
11:22All right.
11:22So, hopefully, you were a Quirrellite while ago.
11:26I will.
11:26Now you're a Quirrell Gobbler.
11:28Is it?
11:28Is it?
11:28Is it?
11:29Okay?
11:29Yeah.
11:29It's my side.
11:30It's my side.
11:32I'm going to wear it.
11:33And then we'll have to get rid of the sombrero.
11:35Oh, sure.
11:36And we got you a cap.
11:37Okay.
11:37All right.
11:38I'm going to wear it, man.
11:39Yes, sir.
11:40All right.
11:41Thank you.
11:41Good luck.
11:41Thank you.
11:42I appreciate it.
11:42Thank you.
11:42Yeah, we'll see you later.
11:43Yes.
11:43All right.
11:44Thank you.
11:44Thank you.
11:45Bye.
11:45This is not friendly territory for Bobby Pulido.
11:51Republican Representative Monica de la Cruz flipped this seat in 2022 by an 8% margin.
11:58Then she won re-election in 2024 by a 14% margin.
12:02In fact, some people around here say it's not easy being a Democrat.
12:19So, Bobby, where are we going?
12:20We're going to the Cuero-York-Yocum game.
12:24And you're dressed for it.
12:26I'm in Cuero right now.
12:28They're very famous for having a really good football team.
12:32So, that's going to be great.
12:34Yeah.
12:34So, it's a rivalry, right?
12:36It's a rivalry game.
12:37So, it's going to be good.
12:39Yes.
12:40Yes.
12:41You were instructed by the mayor to wear green.
12:44I was not instructed.
12:46I was encouraged.
12:47Encouraged.
12:48Encouraged.
12:49Yes.
12:50Go Mean Green.
12:52One of the things that really stood out to me from the lunch was how some people openly
12:58said they're afraid to be a Democrat in this area.
13:02Yes.
13:03And that really...
13:03There's a lot of fear.
13:04How does that change your strategy?
13:07How does that inform your strategy?
13:08The fact that some people in these counties are afraid to vote for somebody like you.
13:13If they're afraid, it's that they don't have support.
13:16The candidate feeds off the people, but the people feed off the candidate too.
13:20And they need to have hope that you're somebody that they trust and you can fight for them.
13:27But the only solution is to still be here and talk to people and let them know what you're about.
13:35One of the gentlemen who asked you the question about your star power, you have a voice, you have an audience.
13:45Yes.
13:45And he asked you about using that voice to encourage people to vote.
13:50Yes.
13:51And you said that you really don't talk politics when you're performing.
13:56But he was not wrong.
13:58Did his question change your thinking about what to do, how so?
14:04It did, because he was 100% right.
14:08It's very different to tell people you need to exercise your right to go vote and use it.
14:16And I hadn't thought of it that way.
14:19I was always, as a singer, I just, I don't want to alienate anybody.
14:24You know, because sometimes when people go to a concert, they go to a concert not to hear you preach about an issue.
14:30They're trying to get away from their own problems and they want to go enjoy the concert.
14:34And so I've always been very conscious about that.
14:36I just want to go sing and perform for them.
14:40But you're doing nothing wrong by saying, go out and use your voice.
14:44You're not saying go vote Democrat or vote Republican.
14:46You're saying go vote and use your voice.
14:49I'm definitely going to say that in my concerts from now on.
14:52You are.
14:52I am.
14:54I am.
14:55He was right.
14:58So you'll get a chance to talk to a bunch of people here too, yeah?
15:10Yeah, I'm sure, well, I'm not the star here.
15:14People here are football fanatics, so I think they're going to largely ignore me, which is that I'm okay with that.
15:20Plus, I'm not wearing my cowboy hat, so they don't recognize me as much with a cab.
15:25Yeah, that's true.
15:27It's a social experiment.
15:28We'll see.
15:28There he goes, there he goes.
15:43Hi, Mr. Eric Pena.
15:45I wanted to follow up with you because you asked a very interesting question.
15:49You asked Bobby Bolido about him using his voice to ask people to vote.
15:56To motivate people to register, we don't get very many things in the state of Texas, but we get the right to vote.
16:05Based on the answer that Bobby Bolido gave you, did you feel he listened to you?
16:11Yes.
16:11I think Bobby is a very intelligent, educated person.
16:17There's a lot of things that you can do as a politician, but common sense is probably the most important because I think his heart is in the right place.
16:28To give up what he's given up and doing it because he cares, that's important.
16:36Giving up a 30-year career.
16:38Yes.
16:39So that's very important.
16:40I give him a lot of credit.
16:43I'll pray for him because we need people like that out there.
16:47Do you believe that you changed his mind?
16:49I think I planted a seed.
16:53What would you say if I told you that I asked him that question, I asked him about the question that you asked him, and he said that you changed his mind.
17:04He's going to start doing it.
17:06He's going to start asking people to vote.
17:09He has a platform.
17:10And all you do, you don't tell him, vote for me.
17:14Register, go out and vote.
17:16Don't just register and say, I'm going to register, go.
17:19Express your right to vote.
17:22That's the only thing we got here.
17:24That's the only thing we got here.
17:54Who's got the time where you're going?
17:55Yes, who's here?
17:56Are these your friends?
17:57Some of them are, yes.
17:59Some of them I just met.
18:00But, yeah, some of them are my very good friends, actually.
18:04I'm at heart a country boy, and that's part of life when you live in the rural areas.
18:10And I've done that since I was little.
18:13I loved it.
18:14Not competitively.
18:15And later I got into that and long-range shooting and just the art of weeding the wind and, you know,
18:23trying to figure out where you're going to hit and developing the best load for your rifle.
18:28And it's a sport in and of itself.
18:31And I like it because you shoot a lot.
18:33You don't hurt anything.
18:35You know, the steel doesn't get hurt.
18:37Yeah.
18:38And meet a lot of good friends, a lot of good people.
18:41This is normally not what Democrats are known for.
18:45This is usually what Republicans are known for.
18:48I will tell you it's probably 99% Republican.
18:54You know, where you go to those matches, it's don't tread on me.
19:01I mean, it's hardcore.
19:03They're good people.
19:04They're really good people.
19:06Is this also where you have some good conversations?
19:09Yeah.
19:09Yeah.
19:10You do.
19:11You do.
19:12You get to hear, I guess you say, the other side.
19:16Right?
19:16And more importantly, you learn to be able to get along.
19:21Even if you vote differently, but you get along.
19:27How helpful do you think this will be for your campaign?
19:30I don't look at it that way as how much it will help me or hurt me.
19:34It is who I am.
19:36Right?
19:36And so I'm not going to ever change that because you can't change who you are.
19:41And this is not something that I'm doing for a photo shoot.
19:46It's something that I do in my spare time, and I enjoy it.
19:54Did you vote for Donald Trump?
19:56Yes.
19:56Yes, we did.
19:57Bobby Pulido will be running.
19:59He's here.
20:00Yes.
20:00Mm-hmm.
20:01What did you think when you heard that he was running as a Democrat?
20:06I was concerned for him.
20:08Why?
20:09Because the stereotyping of Democrats.
20:13I know Bobby on a completely different level because I know who he is and what he is.
20:21It breaks the stereotype mold.
20:26So I think Bobby would be able to benefit our districts very well if he were given the opportunity.
20:39Yeah.
20:40Yeah.
20:40So are you saying that you would vote for him?
20:42Yes, I think so.
20:43Possibly yes.
20:44Yes.
20:44I think he would be a great person to vote for.
20:47What do you think is the biggest barrier for other Republicans to make that leap?
20:54Mm-hmm.
20:56Go beyond the party and simply vote for the best individual, the best servant for that particular area.
21:05That might be, that's a very difficult question to answer because it may be instilled in people from generation to generation.
21:17It may be just culture that, hey, we live in a Republican area.
21:25We better vote Republican so our neighbors don't look different at us.
21:32That's a thing here.
21:34It is.
21:35Yeah.
21:37We've experienced it firsthand.
21:39How so?
21:41Well, it's just we know who does and doesn't vote Republican or Democrat.
21:46And there's pressure to vote Republican.
21:48There can be.
21:50A little bit.
21:51Yeah.
21:51You're a father of four, you're a husband, you have a family.
22:01Yes.
22:02You have money.
22:04And after a very successful 30-year career in music, you could just retire.
22:10You could, you don't need to do this in essence.
22:12But you're deciding to run for office as a Democrat in a red gerrymandered district.
22:21Yes.
22:21Why get into politics?
22:23It's really for my, for my kids and my grandkids.
22:26I don't have any grandkids yet.
22:28My oldest is 28.
22:29I have a 27-year-old.
22:30And I've talked to them about grandkids because I'd like to have grandkids.
22:38But if they had been raised when I was growing up, they probably would have already gotten
22:43married and had a wife and had kids, had a family.
22:47It's too expensive.
22:49I'm not doing this for me.
22:51I'm doing it for my kids.
22:55Is it emotional for you?
22:57Yeah.
22:59You can take a moment.
23:00Yeah.
23:01Yeah.
23:02Yeah.
23:03Yeah.
23:03I could tell it's emotional for you.
23:05Yeah.
23:06Just, it's, it's, it breaks your heart to hear your kids say, I don't know what's coming,
23:13Dad, because I can't afford it.
23:16Ah.
23:16And, and, and, and I'll be honest with you, I, I'm the type of father that I'll raise
23:22my kids and teach them the value of hard work.
23:26Mm-hmm.
23:27So I don't spoil my kids.
23:29I don't tell my, my kids don't drive fancy cars and, and I don't tell my kids, don't worry
23:34about it, you know, spend my money.
23:37Mm-hmm.
23:37I tell them, you know what, you got, I'm teaching you how to make your own money and get
23:41out in the world.
23:41But right now, even when they're trying to work hard, it's hard.
23:43I heard you scream, run by.
24:13Bobby, run.
24:15You, you want Bobby Pulido to run for office?
24:18I want, I want Bobby, I want Bobby Pulido to run.
24:21Why do you want him to run?
24:22Because he represents the Democrats of yesterday.
24:28He represents the people that used to be in the Valley.
24:32Do you think he could make the Valley go blue?
24:35Yes, I think he does.
24:36I think he can.
24:37You're a Republican.
24:38Would you vote for Bobby?
24:39I would vote for Bobby.
24:40Would you vote for Bobby Pulido?
24:43Yes, I believe he stands for not only the community, but also for the state of Texas.
24:47You said you're a conservative Republican.
24:49That's right.
24:50Damn right.
24:51I'm conservative and I'm a Republican.
24:53That's how I vote.
24:54Would you vote for Bobby Pulido?
24:55I think I would take a chance on Bobby Pulido.
24:59He's showing up.
24:59He's a man of the people.
25:01He's walked around town.
25:02He's went to the shops.
25:03He shook hands.
25:05I mean, you don't see too many of that out of a candidate nowadays.
25:08That's authenticity.
25:10You don't find that.
25:11Do you think Bobby Pulido can win here?
25:13I think he has a damn good chance at Gonzales County.
25:32Bobby, we're in this era of personality politics.
25:36It's a thing.
25:37Is that what you think?
25:37It's a thing.
25:39It wins elections.
25:41Star power is helpful.
25:44And together with hard work, we've seen it happen.
25:48President Trump was a star on The Apprentice.
25:50He's won the White House twice.
25:52Yes.
25:53And then he ordered the Republicans in Texas to gerrymander the state to keep power in the House.
26:00Yes.
26:01And so my question to you is, you've got the star power.
26:05I've seen firsthand your work ethic, how hard you work.
26:10Yes.
26:11Do you think that you can beat Republicans at their own game?
26:17I don't think I'd make the decision to run if I didn't feel that way.
26:21But I don't view it as that.
26:23I view it as can I connect with people?
26:29The ultimate goal is not to beat Republicans.
26:32It's to connect with people.
26:34Right?
26:34Meet them where they're at and represent them like they deserve to be represented.
26:40And that takes a lot of work.
26:44So you're in for the win.
26:45That's the goal.
26:47Yeah, because it's not a vanity project.
26:51It's not.
26:52It's a real thing.
26:54And I take it seriously.
26:57You can gerrymander the district.
27:00But you can't gerrymander Tejano culture.
27:02Thank you.
27:24It's a real thing.
27:33You can't go to an internet program.
27:34So you want to, you see, this is the reasonash that you've got to go over here.
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