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Israelis and Palestinians are working together for peace. Despite the terrorism of Hamas, Israel's brutal war on Gaza, and violence against Palestinians in the West Bank, people on both sides are seeking reconciliation.
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00:00:00We are the world united!
00:00:09Salam ala maria!
00:00:13It was 4 October 2023, in Jerusalem.
00:00:18They were thousands of women, israelian and palestinian,
00:00:22to walk together to demand peace and justice.
00:00:26We have come from all over the world to stand by your side
00:00:30and affirm loud and clear the international solidarity of women.
00:00:35Nous étions là pour les soutenir,
00:00:37avec notre groupe de femmes venus du monde entier,
00:00:40menés par notre association les Guerrières de la Paix.
00:00:43Par vie, liberté!
00:00:46Cette terre, meurtrie par des décennies de guerres et de douleurs,
00:00:50la plupart d'entre nous la découvraient pour la première fois.
00:00:54Nous avions décidé d'aller à la rencontre de ces militants de l'espoir,
00:00:59ces femmes et ces hommes qui vivent au cœur de la guerre
00:01:02et qui s'engagent au quotidien pour la paix.
00:01:05Nous devions trouver une nouvelle langue.
00:01:08Nous devions trouver une façon de répondre à plus de personnes.
00:01:11Bouleversés par leur courage, nous leur avions fait une promesse,
00:01:15porter leurs paroles aussi fragiles que lumineuses.
00:01:20Puis, nous sommes rentrés au petit matin, le 7 octobre 2023.
00:01:29Le 7 octobre 2023.
00:01:32Le 7 octobre 2023.
00:01:36Encore un plan de l'espoir,
00:01:38nous devions trouver une décennie de la décennie.
00:01:41Mais une décennie de la décennie de l'espoir.
00:01:44La stratégie de l'espoir,
00:01:46et la stratégie de l'espoir.
00:01:48La stratégie du 7 octobre 2021.
00:01:49from October the end.
00:02:19Yoram!
00:02:21Romy!
00:02:23Romy!
00:02:27Romy!
00:02:35Depuis,
00:02:37leurs vies ont basculé.
00:02:41Et dans une autre mesure,
00:02:43les nôtres aussi.
00:02:49Nous avons dû faire face
00:02:53aux injonctions à choisir son camp,
00:02:55aux torrents de haine et de colère
00:02:57qui de partout nous assommaient.
00:02:59De pouvoir partager notre douleur
00:03:01et notre chagrin, sans nous opposer
00:03:03les uns aux autres.
00:03:05Moi, Anna Assouline, fondatrice
00:03:07des Guerrières de la Paix, militante
00:03:09et réalisatrice juive,
00:03:11française d'origine marocaine.
00:03:13Et moi, Sonia Thérabe,
00:03:15membre des Guerrières de la Paix,
00:03:17réalisatrice et militante féministe marocaine
00:03:19de culture arabo-musulmane.
00:03:23Toutes les deux, nous avons décidé
00:03:25de refaire ce voyage,
00:03:27de retrouver ces femmes et ces hommes
00:03:29qui nous avaient transmis tant d'espoir.
00:03:31Où sont-elles ?
00:03:33Que sont-ils devenus ?
00:03:35Nous, ici, nous faisons un film.
00:03:38Un film ?
00:03:39Oui.
00:03:40Nous faisons un film.
00:03:41Bienvenue.
00:03:43Oui.
00:03:44Oui.
00:03:45On va voir ceрь n'est pas au moins commecir.
00:03:47La France.
00:03:48Un film dans la France,
00:03:50des
00:04:00changements.
00:04:02Parfaite.
00:04:03I'm gonna tell you, start to see Gaza.
00:04:08I'm gonna tell you, start to see Gaza.
00:04:23Hello!
00:04:33During our trip, just before the 7th October, we met Vivian Silver, this great militant pacifist
00:04:55israélienne, membre de Women Wage Peace. C'était seulement six jours avant sa mort.
00:05:25We're in my mother's house, Vivian.
00:05:55There was a big closet here and she was hiding because she couldn't keep the door locked.
00:06:10And we were talking, we were talking throughout the morning until I heard gunshots outside
00:06:22of her window and shouting through the phone.
00:06:26So we decided to stop talking and we wrote texts until she wrote me that they're inside
00:06:34the house.
00:06:39That was it.
00:06:40We said goodbye.
00:06:44And at first I thought she was killed.
00:06:51But then I didn't hear anything from anybody.
00:06:55So I decided she was kidnapped because there was no proof of her death.
00:07:03And her phone was located in Gaza.
00:07:07And I was here after October 7th.
00:07:14And this room was filled with wreckage and ashes.
00:07:18And I looked around, I found some things, but a week after I was here, or two weeks, they
00:07:30found her remains here in this room.
00:07:34So this is where she died.
00:07:38She never left this room.
00:07:44You know, I just started to process, process losing my mother and her dying.
00:07:54So this is where she died.
00:08:06So this is where she died.
00:08:08So this is where she died.
00:08:20So this is where she died.
00:08:21So this is where she died.
00:08:22So this is where she died.
00:08:40So this is where she died.
00:08:58So this is where she died.
00:09:13So this is where she died.
00:09:29Today we're talking about 45,000 people who died, according to the government of the government.
00:09:35There are more than 12,000 people who died in Gaza, who died in the hospital.
00:09:41There are also children who died in the hospital.
00:09:43What are they doing?
00:09:46How are you doing?
00:09:48How are you doing?
00:10:00It was a little bit difficult.
00:10:02At the beginning, I was hurting my parents in my life.
00:10:06My parents, my parents, my parents, my parents, my parents, my parents, my parents, and my parents.
00:10:11Today it was a real thing.
00:10:14We just want them to continue and continue.
00:10:17We just want them to continue and continue.
00:10:21We just want them to continue and continue.
00:10:24No.
00:10:26I don't think of myself, I don't see anything.
00:10:36I'm sorry.
00:10:36I hope that I'm living in the hospital.
00:10:38It's better than what we're doing here.
00:10:42But...
00:10:44I'm not sure I'm living in the hospital.
00:10:48When we're living in the hospital...
00:10:50I've been living in the hospital.
00:10:52We can live in the hospital today, but what happens?
00:10:54The problem is that we don't have to do with them.
00:10:56But at the same time, this is the truth.
00:10:58Before we do the peace with the Israelis, we must build peace.
00:11:03The peace and peace is called peace.
00:11:06We don't have to blame.
00:11:08It's not that they're going to be stuck with us, but we're not going to be stuck with them.
00:11:13This is the truth.
00:11:15It's possible to be a problem.
00:11:17Many people see that they're wrong at the moment.
00:11:20And we'll see that this is the right time.
00:11:23We're going to do a problem and we're going to go back to the Israeli police department.
00:11:30And you're going to have a problem?
00:11:33Yes, of course.
00:11:35That's a great problem.
00:11:37I'm going to go back to the police department.
00:11:39I'm going to go back to the police department.
00:12:07Pendant notre voyage de début octobre, nous étions accompagnés par Nava Hefetz, femme rabbin engagée depuis toujours dans la défense des droits humains.
00:12:21Au droit du peuple juif de vivre indépendamment sur sa terre.
00:12:26Mais avec le même souffle, je dis, le peuple palestinien a le même droit de vivre sur cette terre.
00:12:33Sur cette terre.
00:12:34Sur cette terre.
00:12:35Sur cette terre.
00:12:36Sur cette terre.
00:12:37Sur cette terre.
00:12:38Sur cette terre.
00:12:39Je suis de vivre indépendamment sur sa terre.
00:12:42Je vais vous dire.
00:12:43I worked for 3 years with Vivian Silver, we made a project on Negev.
00:12:50And I took from her house, to put on the table of Shabbat,
00:12:59a piece of the toilet from Vivian's house,
00:13:06and some flowers from her garden.
00:13:10This is a place where I came from.
00:13:18I came in this morning and I didn't understand what happened.
00:13:22I entered all of us.
00:13:25I didn't understand what happened.
00:13:27I entered all of my information.
00:13:30I started to get information.
00:13:32I started to get information about this,
00:13:34and I started to get information about this.
00:13:36And you know what happened here?
00:13:38It was a long time.
00:13:40It was a long time.
00:13:42It was a long time.
00:13:44It was a long time.
00:13:46It was a long time.
00:13:48It was a long time.
00:13:50It was a long time.
00:13:52It started to get information about it.
00:13:54and I started to get information about it.
00:13:56It was a long time.
00:13:58It was a long time.
00:14:00It was a long time.
00:14:02It was just a long time.
00:14:04I turned it around the world.
00:14:05It was probably a long time.
00:14:07It was a long time of the teenageوت.
00:14:09It was a long time.
00:14:10It had never happened behind the kids to die.
00:14:12I think it's for people who believe that I'm good and that they're really in the midst of it.
00:14:19And I believe that we're in the midst of it in the midst of our mission to the rescue of the army.
00:14:26So I think that's the most difficult thing for us.
00:14:29I can say that at least for me, even in someone who is hiding from Palestine in Gaza
00:14:37And in the midst of it, there are two people in the midst of it.
00:14:42So this is very difficult for us.
00:14:45First of all, there's no more that they say to me about the auto-antishemies and so on.
00:14:52And again, I'm going to show up for the palestinians in the morning.
00:14:55So this is very difficult for us.
00:14:59I think after the 7th October, it's very difficult for us.
00:15:03And that's the only one that has a response to us to underlay for the fact that it's a bit a bit different than what there is at the moment.
00:15:11I'm okay to talk about it today.
00:15:14All right, really.
00:15:15I'm sorry.
00:15:16I'm sorry to speak about this.
00:15:18This is a real issue.
00:15:19I'm sorry to talk about this.
00:15:20Now, I'm a decontinent.
00:15:22You're a lot of one.
00:15:23I'm a divergent.
00:15:24I don't know.
00:15:25I'm a dude.
00:15:26It's a real issue.
00:15:28I'm a man.
00:15:29I'm a man.
00:15:30I'm a man.
00:15:31but it's not a political
00:15:33it's not a political
00:15:35in 1997
00:15:37in 1997
00:15:39it was a
00:15:41a human
00:15:43that is because Israel is a
00:15:45to help the stories
00:15:47that are in the world
00:15:49because they were before the
00:15:51and after the
00:15:53you are like a political
00:15:55you are one of them
00:15:57you can also
00:15:59When I'm pregnant, when I say,
00:16:01wait, wait, wait.
00:16:02Sylvie, wait.
00:16:03Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:16:08Now, now, now.
00:16:10Daniel, one minute.
00:16:11One minute.
00:16:12Who wants to drink?
00:16:14To drink.
00:16:16How's that?
00:16:17Because I'm like, like, I'm...
00:16:19What?
00:16:24At first, we didn't talk about atrocities made by women.
00:16:27And I didn't understand it. It was too big. We didn't get into it.
00:16:35We didn't get into it. It was incredible. And the number, etc.
00:16:41And then, two or three days later, we started to address women's organizations.
00:16:48And I wrote in French, so I wrote in English, and there were others in Spanish and in German.
00:16:56Well, what we had to do, we didn't have any answers.
00:17:04And it was a big, big, big deception.
00:17:11And I started to ask who I was,
00:17:14because all my life was linked to the feminist movement in Israel and abroad.
00:17:21And it was for me a movement of change,
00:17:25which devait promouvoir l'égalité entre les personnes humaines.
00:17:29And I didn't know where I was, I still didn't know where I was.
00:17:34Well, you were asking what we saw for the future.
00:17:38When we hear Palestine from the river to the sea,
00:17:43it means the annihilation of Israel.
00:17:46Even on Hitler, we haven't talked about the annihilation of the German state.
00:17:50It's also too big.
00:17:53It's too big for us.
00:17:55We can be against occupation, we can be against apartheid,
00:17:58we can be against many things.
00:18:00But to say that we don't have the right to live, it's already another thing.
00:18:05We are the people of the world.
00:18:08And we, not particularly,
00:18:10we fight for causes that we think are important.
00:18:15We seek equality, we seek peace.
00:18:19And every time I heard, before the 7th October,
00:18:22that the Jews are the only ones in the world,
00:18:25that the Jews are the only ones in the world.
00:18:29And all of that, it looked crazy.
00:18:32It belongs to the past.
00:18:33It has nothing to do with my life,
00:18:35in the present and in the future.
00:18:37And all of a sudden, after the 7th October,
00:18:39when someone said,
00:18:41we are really alone.
00:19:11Where are we going?
00:19:12We're going to a small village,
00:19:13not far from Ramallah, Naiman,
00:19:14to meet Ali.
00:19:15It's someone who has not lost the hope of peace.
00:19:17I'm afraid he will not be in route
00:19:20to lose the hope of peace.
00:19:22Hi, Gabe.
00:19:43Hello.
00:19:45Hello.
00:19:47Hello.
00:19:48How are you?
00:19:49You don't give up, huh?
00:19:51You don't give up.
00:19:52We have no other choice.
00:19:54A peine deux jours avant le 7 octobre,
00:19:56nous étions avec Ali Abu Awad,
00:19:59que certains surnomment le Gandhi palestinien.
00:20:02It's about a message and a call on everyone
00:20:08to be pro solution.
00:20:10Because we don't need more divide.
00:20:12We are divided enough.
00:20:14And we don't need more sides.
00:20:16We have many sides.
00:20:18It's easy to make sides.
00:20:20But it's so hard to be a leader for change.
00:20:25My name is Ali Abu Awad.
00:20:27I'm Palestinian who was born and still live here in the West Bank.
00:20:34I was born to a refugee family.
00:20:37My family lost their home in 1948.
00:20:40And our life was about and still about a struggle.
00:20:45In 1987, I joined the First Intifada.
00:20:49And I throw tons of stones on soldiers.
00:20:52That big part of it, I have no idea why I did that.
00:20:56All what I did was about to raise my voice,
00:21:01to tell the world that I exist.
00:21:04But I was not aiming to hurt anyone, honestly.
00:21:07It's not about hate.
00:21:09To hate someone, you have to know him.
00:21:12But we don't know each other.
00:21:15So I ended up in prison for four years.
00:21:20Until we were released.
00:21:22Oslo has came.
00:21:24We were hoping to have our state to neighbor Israel.
00:21:28But the initiative failed.
00:21:31And the second Intifada in 2000 started.
00:21:35One day in 2000,
00:21:37I was shot in my knee by an Israeli settler.
00:21:41And during my medical treatment,
00:21:45I received the news that my older brother, Yusuf,
00:21:48was killed very violently by Israeli soldiers.
00:21:53And I was almost falling in violence again.
00:22:00Anger is blindness.
00:22:02You don't see.
00:22:04And even the occupation doesn't allow us to see
00:22:08the humanity of Jewish people.
00:22:10It doesn't exist.
00:22:12Until one day we met bereaved Israeli parents,
00:22:17people who have lost someone.
00:22:20And I realized that, you know, they are just like us.
00:22:26You know, the devil has a face.
00:22:28And the devil is not a devil.
00:22:30It's a human being.
00:22:32With all of this poison of loss,
00:22:37they are still going to come to my home
00:22:39and stand with us and for us as well.
00:22:43From the human level to the political level.
00:22:46When victims in Israel stand for me,
00:22:50anyone can do it.
00:22:52But it needs courage.
00:22:54And people think that nonviolence is just to show
00:22:57the other side of your humanity.
00:22:59No.
00:23:00I mean, it's part of it.
00:23:02My weapon in this struggle is not my humanity.
00:23:07It's my enemy's humanity.
00:23:09And this is the reflection.
00:23:13You become a mirror to your enemy.
00:23:18We need to reach Bejala at 3.30.
00:23:24Okay?
00:23:25I need to call now Ahmed.
00:23:28You know him also?
00:23:32Yeah.
00:23:33He's another hero.
00:23:34He's a leader.
00:23:35He's a leader.
00:23:36The whole combatants for peace are heroes.
00:23:40Standing for that today is not easy.
00:23:44And Ahmed is just a great soul with a great mind as well.
00:23:48I don't think that is what.
00:24:18I think.
00:24:19And whether he is a poet who is a Christian or إن Carnaval
00:24:22has become his son of the fire,
00:24:22and he's very father.
00:24:23To be your colleague,
00:24:24and to
00:24:34the liar is the mantra,
00:24:47combatants for peace. You meet Israeli soldiers, past soldiers. You work together.
00:24:53For sure. We are like ex-Palestinians prisoners and ex-Israeli soldiers.
00:25:00I was, by the way, I was a Hamas member in the first intifada.
00:25:06Yeah.
00:25:07Yeah. And I stayed seven months in the Israel jail.
00:25:10I have a bullet in my neck.
00:25:13Bullet?
00:25:14Bullet, yeah. Live bullet.
00:25:16Wow.
00:25:17Yeah. In my neck.
00:25:19Not because I was active in a violence demonstration or, no.
00:25:26Because I was an unbalanced service guy.
00:25:31I live in Jericho.
00:25:33But my roots in Gaza.
00:25:36And I lost, really, more than 60 persons.
00:25:41It is terrible.
00:25:43Yeah. And children, kids, women, men, old men, old women.
00:25:53they got one sitting.
00:25:56They have to remember us seeing noody.
00:25:58They have to remember us seeing no life.
00:25:59They even look around kind of Career, they are trying to remind them of the Soulitsu domain.
00:26:05That's why.
00:26:06And all the time we look all at the Head of the Sun,
00:26:12When we talk about this reality of endless pain and of what is being done, you know,
00:26:29in my name, or in our names, in our peoples, what we do, I'm heartbroken, because we are
00:26:46the same, we're just people who are suffering the same kind of pain.
00:26:53When, you know, when my mother was killed, and she wasn't killed as a human, right?
00:27:00She was finished like a bug.
00:27:05And I said, how can I create, shape a reality where this is not possible, that this can't
00:27:15happen to anybody?
00:27:17Thank you to your, to your feeling, and to your speech.
00:27:27Really, I appreciate that so much, and that's touched my heart a lot, touched my deep heart.
00:27:36And I understand your feeling as well, because it's the same with me, too.
00:27:52So, what happens, it's to your mom, it's also son, my name, by my name.
00:28:05And I'm against the violence, against the guilt.
00:28:09I don't want, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want, that's
00:28:13happened.
00:28:17I'm, I'm with, struggle against the occupation, but not, in violence, without violence, I don't
00:28:27need, to kill anyone, by my name.
00:28:32I'm, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want,
00:28:42I don't want, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want,
00:28:46I don't want, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want,
00:28:50I don't want, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want,
00:28:53I don't want, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want, I don't want,
00:28:55Thank you very much.
00:29:25Thank you very much.
00:29:55Thank you very much.
00:30:25Thank you very much.
00:30:27Thank you very much.
00:30:29Thank you very much.
00:30:31Thank you very much.
00:30:33We are young people here in Israel that grew up under Netanyahu when we were children.
00:30:49And Netanyahu is the only thing we know as adults as well.
00:30:53This old peace camp in Israel was only a Jewish camp.
00:30:57It was speaking out of Jewish perspective.
00:30:59It was a camp that told the Palestinians, you should wait.
00:31:04Maybe now you will get some more rights, but you know, the state will need to wait more
00:31:09and more.
00:31:10And we understand we have no time to wait.
00:31:11We cannot wait for someone to wake up one day and to say, today I'm gonna, you know, do
00:31:18this historic compromise and achieve peace with the Palestinians.
00:31:22Only if we combine the interests of both the Palestinians and the Jewish people living on this land that
00:31:29today are both losing from this reality.
00:31:32And we acknowledge that the way we lose is very different.
00:31:35Palestinians for many decades, they're paying the ultimate price for the occupation and the
00:31:39war in death in tens of thousands.
00:31:42Jewish people, they pay a different price.
00:31:44The 7th of October, the attacks, you can see from time to time, it's not safe for them.
00:31:49But both of us lose together from this reality.
00:31:52And we try to imagine how will it be when we will all together win and benefit from a new
00:31:59reality that will be good to all of us.
00:32:01We are here, Jews and Palestinians together,
00:32:30People in our government, ministers in our government, telling our society that there's
00:32:41no such thing as an innocent Palestinian, that the children of today are the terrorists
00:32:46of tomorrow and that hence we must be brutal and ruthless.
00:32:51This is terrible.
00:32:53And we don't believe in it.
00:32:55And we know that the people in Gaza are not the same as Hamas, just like the majority
00:33:01of people in Israel are different from our government.
00:33:05This is my home.
00:33:06I was born here.
00:33:07I want to live here.
00:33:08I want to raise a family here.
00:33:11And so we have to do these things and that's why I'm standing together.
00:33:25We're going to live here.
00:33:41We're going to live here more than the car car car.
00:33:45We're going to live here.
00:33:47We're going to live here.
00:33:52There is a group of people who have taught me.
00:34:18Hello.
00:34:24What are the news?
00:34:28We're going to talk about what happened after 7 October.
00:34:36After that, for example, I'm a friend of mine.
00:34:40I have children.
00:34:42Of course, they're scared.
00:34:44They're afraid of getting hurt.
00:34:50They're worried about whether I'm going to kill them.
00:34:52My parents tell me that they're not even trying to kill them.
00:34:56They're just trying to kill them.
00:34:58They're just trying to kill them.
00:35:00They're just trying to kill them.
00:35:02I'm going to kill them.
00:35:04I'm not going to kill them because I'm going to show them.
00:35:06The situation is over.
00:35:08Unfortunately,
00:35:10In the past, the mother would bring her back to her.
00:35:17My six-year-old was out of the hospital.
00:35:19She was going to take her to leave her child,
00:35:23because she couldn't leave the hospital and she was going to leave.
00:35:28She was going to leave the hospital so that she couldn't leave her home.
00:35:31She was going to leave the hospital.
00:35:34She was going to leave the hospital.
00:35:38It's hard to think about the country, but it's hard to think about the country.
00:35:45It's hard to think about it.
00:35:47You can tell me, I'm a human being, but I'm still a human being.
00:35:54But in the end, will it be beautiful?
00:35:56I don't know. I don't know.
00:35:59I don't know.
00:36:00I don't know.
00:36:02I don't know.
00:36:03I don't know.
00:36:05But, these days, we're doing well, with liberty.
00:36:09We're going to make our battle Hollis.
00:36:11We're going to exercise with them.
00:36:17Today we're going to beaku.
00:36:1924 a.m.
00:36:21run a pentacle Gabriel conseguts...
00:36:24We're going to believe that we...
00:36:29These things we don't speak just about today.
00:36:32We need other benefits and make them Pat tunnel.
00:36:34And they will give us the help of us.
00:36:37But I want to be as an actress,
00:36:40I want to know that I am a judge.
00:36:43And the government knows how much I am.
00:36:46Because it is going to be done with these things in this way.
00:36:50We must have to hear the sound of the whole thing.
00:36:56We are not from one person, we are from everything.
00:36:59We are from the one who is talking about the door,
00:37:02or anybody who you're out there can tell you that you could talk about it
00:37:05or that you could tell you that you could talk about it
00:37:07Right?
00:37:08I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I want to live in a life, a life, a man,
00:37:13I can't stay like this, I can't, I'll have with you, I have a dream for you
00:37:16I can't let you know, I can't, they're in the dream, I'm an dream
00:37:32Ashton! Ashton!
00:38:02Ashton!
00:38:14Moi, je suis phoque, je suis phoque.
00:38:18C'est...
00:38:24On n'est pas sorti encore des cabanes, on est encore coincé au 7 octobre.
00:38:53Tant que les otages ne sont pas libérés,
00:39:00tant que l'armée israélienne est encore à Gaza,
00:39:04on est au 7 octobre.
00:39:08Ça va prendre du temps.
00:39:09Il y a des familles qui ont perdu leur chair,
00:39:14des familles entières qui ont été assassinées,
00:39:18des bébés qui ont été assassinés dans leur lit.
00:39:21Ce n'est pas facile.
00:39:28Ce n'est pas facile, mais il faut garder l'espoir.
00:39:32Ça peut être aussi...
00:39:35La situation peut être différente.
00:39:39On n'est pas obligé de vivre comme ça.
00:39:41On n'est pas possible.
00:39:44On n'est pas possible.
00:39:46On n'est pas possible.
00:39:48We're going to take a picture of you, right?
00:40:06We're going to take a picture of you.
00:40:08Are you brothers?
00:40:10Yes.
00:40:12Where are you from?
00:40:14From Odds.
00:40:16From Odds.
00:40:18And she's from Odds.
00:40:20Do you know the Odds?
00:40:22The Odds.
00:40:30For the moment, you can see that it's blocked.
00:40:32There's a lot of pressure on the road.
00:40:34There's a lot of pressure on the road.
00:40:38There's a lot of pressure on the road.
00:40:40I don't know what to do.
00:40:42It's necessary to be the road, but the border are the ones who are trying to stop the road.
00:40:48The police, not the army, can be able to do something with the citizens and open the road.
00:40:58If we don't, we want to go to another road, but not the first one.
00:41:04After the 7th of October, a lot of things changed.
00:41:08There are a lot of restrictions on the roads and all the roads.
00:41:14But in all directions, there are a lot of restrictions on the streets.
00:41:31My success is to create a reality, an environment where these two identities, the Jewish and Palestinian identity,
00:41:40will be practiced in a fashion that no one has to pay the price of his dignity, freedom or security.
00:41:47This is obvious. This is obvious for all of us.
00:41:50But the problem is, we are led by emotions.
00:41:54Israelis are led by fear today.
00:41:57Palestinians are led by anger.
00:41:59And look what is the consequences.
00:42:03And this can go forever.
00:42:06Both sides will fight until the last drop of blood.
00:42:10So how much innocent souls we have to lose until we wake up?
00:42:17Until we realize that none of these identities can be ignored forever, or can be rejected forever.
00:42:26I don't want my freedom to be built on Jewish graves.
00:42:32I want my freedom to be built through Jewish hearts and consciousness, knowledge.
00:42:41And that's why I think it's a tremendous responsibility of both sides to wake up and design a national plan that can serve all of us.
00:42:53Behind those mountains, it's Gaza.
00:43:12This is where people now are dying.
00:43:16And the land is bleeding.
00:43:24You can smell it.
00:43:25You can see it.
00:43:26You can feel it.
00:43:27It's bleeding.
00:43:28But it's also full of those who are just ready to do anything possible to change this reality.
00:43:39And it's a beautiful land.
00:43:43I don't blame people that everyone wants it.
00:43:45But I think for a land to welcome all of us, we need to learn how to belong to it together.
00:43:58I think we can understand that.
00:44:01I'm very excited to be here.
00:44:03Let's go, please.
00:44:04Let's go.
00:44:05Let's go.
00:44:06Let's go.
00:44:07Let's go.
00:44:08Let's go.
00:44:09Let's go.
00:44:10Thank you very much.
00:44:40Today we are going to find the human threat in Quds.
00:44:44We are going to come back to the people of Quds, which is called the day of Quds.
00:44:48It is a day that is called a journey from the Quds.
00:44:51The people of Quds are going to walk in the streets of Quds,
00:44:55so that the Palestinians are going to be the people of Quds.
00:44:59But we are going to find the human threat in Quds.
00:45:03We are going to find the human threat in Quds.
00:45:07We are in the 5th of June. It is the day that the war of Quds has started.
00:45:20And the Israeli government has marked this day as the day of Jerusalem.
00:45:26This day has been kidnapped by the national religions, the colonists.
00:45:34Every year, they are going to go to the wall of Quds.
00:45:38They are going to go to the old city, very violent, to show the Jewish supremacy, the Israeli supremacy.
00:45:49And so, it was 10 years ago, we decided to start a march called the Marche des Fleurs.
00:45:56And we went to the old city with a small prayer.
00:46:02And we offered the peace flowers, and not the violence of Quds.
00:46:12The Judaism is not only the march of Quds.
00:46:15The Judaism is also the respect of human life, of any human life.
00:46:21The Jewish Americans.
00:46:34The Jewish Americans.
00:46:36Thank you very much.
00:47:06Thank you very much.
00:47:36Thank you very much.
00:48:06We are here to live in peace and we need to raise this voice clear and loud while those
00:48:11people shouting their curse and they're attacking innocent people.
00:48:16We need to be here and to show that there is another way that we can live here.
00:48:20It's a just way.
00:48:36My name is Ibrahim.
00:49:02I come from Nazareth.
00:49:03I was born and raised there.
00:49:05So I'm part of what is known today as Arab citizens of Israel, which is 20% of the population
00:49:12in Israel today.
00:49:13My name is Amira.
00:49:14I am from East Jerusalem.
00:49:17So growing up, I wasn't exposed to any Israelis at all.
00:49:21Social media drags the world to a black and white, to, you know, very contrasting narratives.
00:49:31And that's where the third narrative comes in, because the first narrative and the second
00:49:36are the ones who are only one-sided.
00:49:39You're only pro-Israeli and you're only pro-Palestinian.
00:49:43And it actually means that you're also anti the other side.
00:49:47That's why we said there needs to be a third narrative.
00:49:51Salaam and welcome, everybody, to our podcast, Unapologetic, the third narrative.
00:49:57Our original and authentic initiative in light of the war in Israel and Gaza.
00:50:01A platform where we will share our identities, views, and experiences from the ground.
00:50:07The reaction of what is happening in the world is, I think, you can correct me if I'm wrong,
00:50:12but it's one of the main reasons why what we saw around the world was, like, not in our
00:50:18name.
00:50:19We need to say something.
00:50:21We can't go tell the Israelis that are, like, have lost a thousand, a thousand, two hundred
00:50:27something people and counting with missing hostages.
00:50:31Tell them, no, no, no, no, you, the occupation, no, no, Gaza, no, no.
00:50:35But no one's going to listen to us.
00:50:37And also, we can't go to tell the Palestinians, like, look what Hamas did.
00:50:40It's misrepresenting everything that we've been working towards.
00:50:44And it's like it's dragging us towards a bad direction because Gaza is, like, being
00:50:51bombarded.
00:50:52So we can't talk to either.
00:50:53The people that we can talk to early on are the international community.
00:50:58It's like, how dare you use the Israeli and the Palestinian voice to fuel Islamophobia
00:51:03and anti-Semitism?
00:51:03You know, it's also affecting your own societies in the West.
00:51:08And we want you guys and all your passion about it to be directed towards ending the
00:51:14conflict instead of, you know, having the moral support of one side over the other.
00:51:20It's like a football match.
00:51:22It's like Messi and Ronaldo.
00:51:24What slogans are you using?
00:51:26What chants are you using?
00:51:27And which flag are you waving?
00:51:29And it's disgusting.
00:51:32And us sitting here, like, whether it's in Gaza or here, a hostage family person, we're
00:51:36sick of it.
00:51:37We just want it to end.
00:51:38First, if you have no skin in the game, guess what?
00:51:43It's like you said, you do not need to choose sides.
00:51:46Choose humanity.
00:51:47Choose to help us end the conflict without choosing one over the other.
00:51:51If you do have a skin in the game, by all means, support your own people.
00:51:56Be pro your own people.
00:51:58We can't tell you not to be, but you don't need to demonize an entire people for that.
00:52:05If you ask anyone who has hope these days, especially in the beginning, no one has hope
00:52:12right now.
00:52:13And that's exactly why we're doing what we're doing, because there is no hope on the streets.
00:52:18Everyone sees black when they wake up because we saw so much blood.
00:52:23And that's exactly why the podcast is running right now, even though sometimes it's extremely
00:52:29difficult to sit and actually talk and put a smile on our faces and say, yes, peace must
00:52:35prevail.
00:52:36Peace must prevail.
00:52:38Our people are similar.
00:52:39Our people are like each other.
00:52:40We can't keep on killing each other.
00:52:43Sometimes it's to convince the people.
00:52:45Sometimes it's to convince ourselves.
00:52:47But the only solution is to create hope.
00:52:49That's the only solution that we've got.
00:52:51Especially when we feel like there's no speck of hope out there.
00:53:21Weak.
00:53:24Weak.
00:53:25Weak.
00:53:29Weak.
00:53:31It's a different subject for coming to the house.
00:53:34Weak.
00:53:35Weak to the region.
00:53:35It's a different subject.
00:53:36There's different subject.
00:53:37Yes.
00:53:37It's a different subject.
00:53:40Yes.
00:53:41Wow, what are they doing here?
00:53:50Okay.
00:54:02You know that we don't know if we are speaking in British or Arabic.
00:54:06We don't know if we were born in a dozen or a dozen,
00:54:11but we knew that our lives and our lives are one of us.
00:54:15That those who live in kilometers from kilometers,
00:54:18even are living in a better life.
00:54:22And I remember, if I had to hear you,
00:54:26I would like to see that Hamas has not loved you.
00:57:14I look at my mother being buried at a single grave with a stone and trees around her.
00:57:26And you hear at the same time people dying in masses without names, without the possibility of grieving.
00:57:33And you hear at the same time people dying in masses without names, without the possibility of grieving.
00:57:50Like you.
00:57:55And someonecje me.
00:58:04And it's really important to me all the hijos.
00:58:11And I answer.
00:58:13And I said yes.
00:58:14And where am I going toTime?
00:58:18Thank you very much.
00:58:48I, uh, I'm borrowing a phrase from a friend of mine.
00:58:54He said, I want my mother to be a victim of peace and not of war.
00:59:10Die.
00:59:11I, F, Char, Yotaire.
00:59:15I, F, Char, Lam, Sheik, Yotaire.
00:59:17Blee, Ofic, Medini.
00:59:19We are the world united!
00:59:26We are the world united!
00:59:30We are the world united!
00:59:33The sound of the people today in the world.
00:59:36And this is the dream I've ever dreamed of.
00:59:39We want to heal our children.
00:59:41We want to speak in a different language.
00:59:43Of course, it's not a Palestinian,
00:59:44it's not a Israeli.
00:59:46We are the world united.
00:59:51We are the beginning.
00:59:56What is the end place you want to get to?
00:59:58And how is it going to happen?
01:00:00Saying, for example, we need to expel all the Jews from Israel.
01:00:05Is it going to happen?
01:00:06I promise you it is not going to happen.
01:00:08Seven million Jews are going to remain living on this land.
01:00:11Some people in the right wing will say
01:00:13we need to expel seven million Palestinians.
01:00:15I promise them seven million Palestinians are going to remain on this land.
01:00:19And if this is a fact, there is the question what are we going to do?
01:00:23And I think that the only solution is a solution that acknowledges the fact that all of us are going to remain.
01:00:28And that all of us deserve equality, freedom and independence.
01:00:33We call on everyone to be pro-solution in a practical way.
01:00:39And there are so many people here and in Israel and in Palestine who can be their partners for change.
01:00:46And we know who will change.
01:00:54It will be a whole thing.
01:00:58Everything will be a whole thing.
01:00:59And it will stay ok.
01:01:00Light, Lee, let go out.
01:01:04and the flag of theolic contraction.
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