As the world prepares to mark World Mental Health Day on October 10, Outlook's Assistant Editor Priyanka Tupe spoke with anti-caste activist, poet and Vidrohi magazine editor Sudhir Dhawale, who was imprisoned for years under the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act (UAPA) in the Bhima Koregaon case. His experience highlights the stark reality of mental health care in India’s prisons.
According to Dhawale, entry into jail erases identity, reducing a person to a number. Overcrowded barracks, poor ventilation and unhygienic conditions create an environment where stress and anxiety thrive. He says even healthy inmates risk developing mental illness. At places like Taloja Central Jail, there is only one psychiatrist, not available full time. Mental health care is often limited to sedatives rather than genuine treatment.
He recalls prisoners whose conditions deteriorated due to the absence of psychiatric support, some turning to substance use in desperation. Prison labour, he adds, reflects entrenched caste and class divisions, adding to the despair of marginalised groups.
Despite legal and constitutional provisions guaranteeing rights, Dhawale believes their enforcement is absent. For him, resilience came from political thought, writing and solidarity with other inmates. His testimony underscores the urgent need for prison mental health reform.
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According to Dhawale, entry into jail erases identity, reducing a person to a number. Overcrowded barracks, poor ventilation and unhygienic conditions create an environment where stress and anxiety thrive. He says even healthy inmates risk developing mental illness. At places like Taloja Central Jail, there is only one psychiatrist, not available full time. Mental health care is often limited to sedatives rather than genuine treatment.
He recalls prisoners whose conditions deteriorated due to the absence of psychiatric support, some turning to substance use in desperation. Prison labour, he adds, reflects entrenched caste and class divisions, adding to the despair of marginalised groups.
Despite legal and constitutional provisions guaranteeing rights, Dhawale believes their enforcement is absent. For him, resilience came from political thought, writing and solidarity with other inmates. His testimony underscores the urgent need for prison mental health reform.
Watch the full interview on YouTube.
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00:00The country has become a crazy food.
00:05There are many people who have a good and good people who have a good and good.
00:15But the people who know their happiness and their life is better than a crazy food.
00:24Hello and welcome to Outlook Talks. I am Priyanka Tupay and today I am joined by Sudhir
00:33Dhabay. Sudhir is anti-caste activist, he is poet and he is the editor of Vidrohi magazine
00:39which is a very well-known Marathi magazine. He has also been incarcerated under UAPA in
00:46both NDA and UPA, both regions. He has faced incarceration and along with that he has
00:55experienced a lot of issues, right from mental health to various other issues. He had to demand
01:03for basic prison rights while he was incarcerated. We will talk about all these issues with him
01:11today. But before we begin this conversation, to give you a little bit of context, recently
01:17he was imprisoned under UAPA in Bhima Koregav case, Bhima Koregav Ilgar Parishat's alleged
01:24Maoist connection case. Along with him there were multiple other human rights activists
01:29and writers who were imprisoned. Sudhir has recently been released on bail and there are
01:36some bail conditions and also the case is sub-judice so we will not go into the optic
01:41of the case. But we will talk about mental health issues, prison and mental health issues.
01:48On the occasion of World Mental Health Day, we are publishing a very special issue and for
01:54that issue Sudhir has written a very poignant piece. I request you all to go and check out
02:00the magazine and read that piece as well. And today we will talk to him about what his experiences
02:07are and how he has seen the mental health in and around the prisons. So welcome sir,
02:15I am very happy to hear you. You are very happy to hear this interview. You have been told
02:21about 10 years in jail. You have been told about the cases in jail, mainly UAPA. And during those
02:27cases, when you were in prison, then what kind of space was there for mental health? What kind of
02:35mental health is you are looking for mental health? If you are looking for mental health?
02:47Yes, do you expect really? Yes, you are heading in jail. When people go in jail, when we go to detail
02:52in jail, when people enter in prison, then the big walls have witnessed the grave.
02:58is very important.
03:00When you see a depression,
03:03the environment is born in your own.
03:06We go into the depression
03:08and we go into the depression.
03:13After going into the gate,
03:18all the clothes are thrown out.
03:23If you are a political activist or a social activist, you have all the knowledge of your clothes and you have to replace it and then you will go inside.
03:43After entering, we see that you have a number given. That number only gets recognized within the jail.
03:53So, your name, your social background, your image, everything gets restored.
04:02You have to replace it as a result of the jail.
04:16In the beginning of the case, when the ROP goes into jail, it is a very common issue.
04:24The normal person is also in the back of the case,
04:30a mental illness is a very common issue.
04:35When the ROP goes into the beginning,
04:43a psychiatrist who is interested in you or you are a member of the jail.
04:52So, the situation in the jail is the case of all the central jail.
04:58In all the central jail, there is no full-time psychiatrist.
05:03They are living in a week or two or three days, and they are part-time.
05:08I mean, in 2017, I mean, the law of mental health,
05:16which is also in jail, but in that, there are many articles
05:23that are told in jail for people who are in jail.
05:28But in the land, I mean, in jail, there is no permanent psychiatrist,
05:34It doesn't have a degree, and the question of the person who asks the question is what he will treat.
05:43He sits on a very distance, and he doesn't do anything.
05:50If you are depressed, you have a problem when you enter into a trauma,
05:59and he doesn't talk sympathetically, but he doesn't talk very mechanically.
06:07Prison authorities.
06:09The psychiatrist, who is a temporary person who is dealing with you,
06:14he does this kind of work.
06:17You are a criminal.
06:20His mindset is actually like that.
06:23He doesn't want to talk with you,
06:29he doesn't want to talk to you,
06:31he doesn't want to talk to you,
06:33and he doesn't want to talk to you,
06:35and he prevents you from being depressed.
06:37It doesn't do everything to release, it doesn't touch you too, it doesn't do anything with it.
06:45So this is the start of entering the jail.
06:49And then when we go inside, there is a big barracks, there is no ventilation.
06:57Especially when we were in Tarduja, there is a circle in Naveen Mumbai.
07:09The structure is so bad.
07:16It means that the jail has been built in a very proper ventilation.
07:24But the jail has been built in five circles.
07:28And there is a big cell here in Naveen Mumbai.
07:32So this whole structure is built in a very deep hole.
07:38And the nature of the jail is built in a very good place.
07:48But the structure is so, that the entire structure is broken.
07:56And you can only see cement walls inside.
08:00And inside there is no one piece, no small pieces, you can't see the color, you can see the color.
08:07And in the barracks, there is a small barracks.
08:11The capacity is 23.
08:13But there is 40, 50, sometimes 60 people.
08:19So this is so bad that you have to struggle after entering.
08:25You have to struggle for the space.
08:28Or you have to think that you will find a place.
08:31and you will find a place, if you are active in the barracks.
08:37If you are a young person and who are responsible for the barracks, they will treat you as if you are not here, you will be able to get rid of the sandals.
08:50If you have a big name, a big name, a big nature, a big background, and if you are a jailer, you will be able to get rid of it.
09:04When you are telling us, the person who is under trial prisoner or a convict, what has the effect of their mind for years and years?
09:19What are the feelings of their mind? What do you feel like? What do you feel like? What do you feel like? What do you feel like?
09:33If you are in jail, you will be able to get rid of it. You will be able to get rid of it.
10:18the structure and the vatavaran is actually made to kill you, which means the power of
10:26the sattah or the dharavshahi, which is the jail.
10:33So, the peace of your life is the source of your social relationship, your friends,
10:44You have to be able to do everything from all of your ability and you have to be able to do isolation.
10:54So these things you have to increase, you have to increase depression, you have to make your brain like schizophrenia.
11:05And you have to be able to understand it sympathetically.
11:10It is not a drug or a doctor or a psychiatrist who are sympathetic, especially with the mental
11:19problems that people have to treat the mental problems.
11:26But the jail is actually the need for you to kill yourself.
11:33So, when you are getting the right of the court, when you are getting the right of the court,
11:44you are getting the right of the court, and you are getting the right of the court.
11:52So, after the good person or the normal person who lives in jail,
11:59It becomes a psychological patient.
12:03The name of the jail has changed the name for the name of Sudhargurva and Kunarvasan Kendra.
12:12But in the case of the jail, it has become a mental illness.
12:23There is also a feeling that there are inmates, the rest of the jail,
12:29whether there are any complaints about it,
12:32whether there are any complaints about it,
12:35I'm sure it will be.
12:36So there is no space for dialogue,
12:40so that our question, our question,
12:43which will be kept in place.
12:45What is such a space in the inside?
12:47Where there is a little relief.
12:49In fact, we are trying to address the issue of the jail.
12:58We are trying to address the issue of the jail.
13:00But the common ROP, which are under-trials,
13:04are the issue of the issue of the jail.
13:09They are the issue of the jail,
13:11so that it doesn't happen to the other side of the jail.
13:17There are many people who have made the wrongs that they have shared stories with each other.
13:26Because they are in some situations, in some psychological trauma.
13:34They don't have to take anything away from them.
13:41So, how do they happen to them?
13:48Our people who have been asking them to sympathize.
13:53They talk to them.
13:55They ask their social background.
13:57They ask the case.
14:01They ask what they need to do.
14:03Because they talk to them in a sympathetic way.
14:07So, they are suffering from their feelings.
14:13And how do they get out of their feelings?
14:16We don't have a problem.
14:18We live there.
14:20But when we live,
14:22We learn how to do it.
14:24Now, the process is a key that can be improved
14:28or the mental problems.
14:32We try to answer pathetically.
14:35In some ways,
14:38I will try to spread out the path.
14:41And when you have to go,
14:43you can get out of it.
14:44Yes, as you have written in your article that you were in jail, so some people had a chance for you.
14:54There are some very painful stories.
14:59Can you tell some stories in Sankshep?
15:03So that we can better understand that if a person goes to jail, then what happens with his mental health?
15:11Yes, in the last time, especially when the under-sail closed, because there was a structural audit,
15:21it will go down and put them in the circle.
15:29So when I came to the circle, the area of the under-sail is open.
15:36There are barracks in a circle, and there are barracks.
15:41And there are barracks in the walls.
15:44So there are about 400-800 people, sometimes 600 people.
15:48So I was in the circle number 3 in Tauruja Jail, in the last time.
15:55And when I entered the barrack number 8, when I entered the barracks,
16:01there was a barracks in Ramesh Sadom.
16:04It was about 35-36 years ago.
16:07There were a barracks in the barracks.
16:12There were barracks in the barracks that were injured there for about 5-3 years.
16:14And after that, I was in the barracks that was fine and then it would be fine.
16:16Well, when I went to the barracks, the barracks were all good.
16:20With the barracks, the barracks were all.
16:22There were very good artists, artists, artists, and artists.
16:27I had a lot of things that were built in a different way, but I had a lot of things that
16:35were built in a different way.
16:39It was a barrack.
16:44It was a barrack.
16:48But it was a lot of things that happened.
16:55foreign
17:02foreign
17:07foreign
17:14foreign
17:19foreign
17:24In court, it is not possible to get past dates.
17:28That's why it's a way to say,
17:30what way to get out of the way is that no way is seen.
17:35That's why it's going to go into depression.
17:38It was a habit that it was a habit of being a man.
17:41He was a man out of the way, but he was a man out of the way.
17:44So, there was no money order in the inside.
17:48Because his mother was very old and very poor.
17:53When people didn't think about it, they didn't get the money order, so when they were going directly, they would stay with some people.
18:06And the bad thing is, especially if it was a bad thing, it should not go into the situation.
18:13But in some cases, everyone knows that there are people in jail,
18:22the jailer is the same. So, some people who are like, start drinking
18:31and they are drinking and drinking. They are giving up a lot of time in their sleep.
18:39They don't want to think about it. They have been thinking about it.
18:44They have been thinking about it. They are also talking about it in the
18:49We also talked about the situation in our relationship.
18:51How will we leave, a secretary, etc.
18:54They talked about the situation.
18:56So, after that, they had to be able to protect themselves.
19:04And they had to eat ganja and sleep.
19:14And they had to eat food too.
19:16Then, when the immunity is over, the disease begins to start getting worse.
19:23Then, the disease starts to get worse.
19:27In the last few months, the disease starts to get worse.
19:34The disease starts to get worse.
19:38When the disease starts to get worse, the disease starts to get worse.
19:43As at the risk type, the disease starts to get worse.
19:53So, the disease begins to get worse.
19:58The disease starts to keep the disease.
20:03That disease starts to get worse.
20:08It means that some people meet each other and eat each other, they call him a hundi.
20:16He was in our hundi.
20:19I was in his hundi because he was the first senior.
20:23So slowly, he stopped eating.
20:26And he was asleep.
20:28One night at about 10.30am, he didn't eat the food.
20:34He was asleep.
20:38He was asleep.
20:40He was asleep.
20:42We saw him.
20:44He called him a doctor.
20:46He took half an hour to come.
20:49We thought he was attacked.
20:52After half an hour, he called him a stretcher.
20:57He asked him a stretcher.
20:59He came.
21:01At about 11.30am, he was in jail hospital.
21:05In jail hospital, full time, there was no doctor on the ground.
21:11So, the people who live in jail, the people who live in jail, the people who live in jail, the people who live in jail.
21:18He was at least here, looking and seeing the people who live in jail, the people who live in jail and what their parents are going to be on death.
21:22And it was just about 14 days.
21:23He is sent over to the jail hospital.
21:24A man who came to jail hospital.
21:25So, immediately, they took him and sent him.
21:27He sent him and sent him.
21:28When he came to jail for a long time.
21:29After the jail hospital, people took him to jail to kill him.
21:30But he returned to jail for the jail.
21:31He returned to jail because he had a lot of jail.
21:32Around 14 days, he went to jail for a long time.
21:33But he came to jail.
21:34He was from jail hospital.
21:35He had been the jail.
21:37He came to the hospital, but he didn't allow the food outside of the hospital.
21:47He told us about his death in 15 days.
21:51So the whole journey of his eyes,
21:57It means that very poor people are suffering from this way and they don't get treatment from that way.
22:09So all the mental health laws are made in the case.
22:14There is no implementation in jail.
22:17There is no need to be made in that way.
22:21When people are sick, they are mentally tired and they become more mentally,
22:29we were in jail.
22:31They are mentally tired of the situation.
22:32They are mentally tired of me rather than exce・ the situation in jail.
22:33They are mentally tired of me and they are mentally tired of me.
22:36They don't want to be in the case because everyone cares about me and their needs are going to be in the jail.
22:37So the discrimination is also going to be in the jail.
22:50.
22:57.
23:10.
23:12.
23:17So, this is the case of jail.
23:20This is the case of Ramesh's story, which is not a real fact.
23:25It has also been an effect on your own.
23:31You have also cut your life in jail for a long time.
23:36So, how did you stay outside of jail?
23:41After you go to jail, after you go to jail, after you go to jail,
23:47what is your mental health condition?
23:51When we were in jail, we had a little bit of a feeling.
23:56Whatever it was, we could talk about it.
24:01We could talk about it.
24:03We could talk about it.
24:05But when you go to jail,
24:08when you get rid of jail,
24:12you get rid of the same conditions.
24:13You get rid of the isolation.
24:16You basically get rid of the peace.
24:20The peace of jail, after you go to jail,
24:25you are feeling, what do you do?
24:27Without the peace of jail,
24:29you cannot live without the peace.
24:31in the middle of the jail, which we see in the middle of the jail, which is a very good
24:41way to understand that this is a center, which is a state machinery, which is a jail.
24:55They are just like the people of the English and the citizens of the past.
25:02The system is running against the law.
25:06They are having to keep the wrongs.
25:12They will be made of the law.
25:18But after going to the jail,
25:22because of the truth of the human being.
25:29The human being becomes so critical and the human being is the human being.
25:36The human being becomes a human being and the human being.
25:42So if you cannot change a lot, if you don't look at the risk, and don't be regular,
25:48hurry or eat, and they are eating food from scratch, or she has nothing to see with the
25:56head, then what will you do?
25:57So this is a person who will make this person a man who is a good friend.
26:02So you need to change the truth in the cult.
26:07I feel that these things will need to change, and the jail is also a place to change, so that
26:17the jail is also a place to change.
26:21And when we come out, especially now I have 6.5-6 years later, when I came out of jail,
26:31I saw that when we came out of jail, the jail is also a very big jail.
26:39And in which all the people who have come out of jail, they have been burned.
26:45They are not afraid, they are not afraid, they are not afraid, but they are facing and feeling,
26:55And the country has become a crazy food, so that it can be seen as a crazy food.
27:03So, there are many people who have been able to eat their own food.
27:10They have been able to eat their own food.
27:13But the people who live in their life, their daily lives, are better than a crazy food.
27:21So, the whole world of the inside and outside of the jail is a part of a system, so that the whole system is going to change the whole system, that if it doesn't change anything in it, it doesn't seem to be able to change it.
27:39As you were talking about Samajji Dhanche, I would like to emphasize a little about the cast, that in prisons, there are mental health issues, because there are things that they need, they don't have basic needs, we don't know that Stan Swamy had a zipper.
28:04In all of these things, how does the cast play the angle of the caste system, which are very oppressed people, are there on a different level of exploitation?
28:20What happens, let me tell you a little bit.
28:23General Jee, Bharat's society, the caste and the class, they both have a mission.
28:32So, the jail is not different from that.
28:37In the jail, the caste and the class, the caste and the class, it can be used in a very good way.
28:47In the jail, the caste and the caste and the caste, it can be used in a very good way.
28:56The caste and the caste and the caste and the caste, it can be used in a very good way.
29:02The caste and the caste and the caste and the caste, it can be used in a very good way.
29:17The caste and the caste and the caste and the caste and the caste and the caste and the caste, it can be used in a very good way.
29:32They preserve doncs and exploitation so that it can be used in a very good way and in aähltope.
29:43and the jail is very good to know the case.
29:45Therefore, the upper class community or the upper class community
29:51or the upper class community of jail is a little bit of a good life.
29:57And the lower level of the people of the upper class community
30:03is a better life.
30:05So, this is what we call the bhatwara.
30:08There is a bhatwara outside, the jail inside is also.
30:10So, in jail, there is also a caste system that is applied in jail.
30:16What is the impact of your mental health? What does it mean? What does it mean to you?
30:24It is a work that people understand and understand their lives.
30:32But if they have to do the work, they have to do the work to live.
30:38But it is so hard and hard work that we see that, especially when we do weekly round,
30:48week round, Jim, to personalize, school day, work of work, work of work, that kind of
30:59work.
31:00I think that the whole surrounding area is, the whole school where people are around.
31:06So they're in the middle, each of the 16 in the middle, 8 are up in the middle.
31:11to be a little bit more than 6 people.
31:20They get tired of the people.
31:26They don't pay for the jail.
31:31is very low and that is why people are thinking that they are going to go to the water and
31:45water.
31:46So there is no need to be in the inside, so that's why we also see that we are working
31:53outside of the water and the water and the water and the water and the water and the water
31:57people who come from the world, who have been working from the people who have been working
32:07from the world.
32:09And sometimes it's a lot of suffering from the gutter.
32:14Because the people who have given the law and the people who need protection,
32:20I don't want to go into the contract system, the contractor doesn't give any attention to the
32:27people.
32:283-4 people die.
32:31The government says that there are no deaths.
32:36This is the way that their life is not an eternal life.
32:45This is the way that the people who are out of the society have been released.
32:53They have made a mental illness.
32:59The situation is in jail.
33:04In jail, there was a lot of experience in your experience.
33:11If someone has any issues with mental health,
33:15then what are the needs of those who can take care of the lab
33:20and have relatives, friends, or other problems?
33:27What needs of those needs are the needs of those needs?
33:32The mental illness or mental illness, there is no problem from the outside of the area or structure within the jail.
33:49I mean, the psychiatrist who comes in a week or two-three months, who also comes in part-time,
33:58who also talk about mental problems, who go to mental problems,
34:05who are talking to them, they say,
34:09what do we get from this?
34:12He is mental.
34:14That's how we say it.
34:17They are qualified.
34:19They don't.
34:20They don't.
34:21They give a lot of time.
34:23Is there a different room or place for counseling?
34:27No place.
34:29They are not a place.
34:31They are not a doctor.
34:36They are very low.
34:40They are not a doctor.
34:45They have a full-time psychiatrist.
34:49They have an ambivalence.
34:51They have a doctor.
34:53The law is written in the law that the jail needs to be a victim of the jail.
34:59But it doesn't have any implementation.
35:03That's why, the law that you are asking,
35:07the law is not a place for people.
35:11That's why, the law is not a place for mental problems.
35:17That's why, the law is not a place for mental problems.
35:23Yes, yes, yes.
35:25And for your relatives and relatives,
35:28so that the people who are being created,
35:30they get a little bit of ease for mental health.
35:34And it is necessary.
35:36That's why, the law is not a place for mental health.
35:42It is a place for mental health.
35:43But, the law is not a place for mental health.
35:48So, we are not a place for mental health.
35:50It is a place for mental health.
35:52It is a place for mental health.
35:54And in those cases,
35:57we are not a place for mental health.
35:58I feel mental health problems are in jail.
36:07So, they don't come to any of them.
36:10So, that's why they don't have to worry about the issue.
36:15So, they just get frustrated.
36:19And the mental problems are starting.
36:23What do you mean specifically?
36:26We are social activists.
36:31What do we call human rights?
36:37We call human rights.
36:41We call them the people.
36:46That is a great deal.
36:50We also have a fight against the law.
36:56We want to fight against the law.
37:02We want to fight against the law.
37:08We want to fight against the law.
37:12We can say that in jail, we can say that in jail, we can say that in jail.
37:15We can say that in jail, but we can say that in jail, the contradiction or the contradiction,
37:18you have to achieve all of this.
37:22Our personal understanding is that in our local human rights,
37:30we have to fight.
37:33We have to deal with regular court.
37:37We have to fight.
37:40Because there are about 1,500 guards from New Bombay to Taroja Jail.
37:55But generally, one or two of them, there are more guards.
38:02And the guards are coming to the government, the Prime Minister, the Home Minister.
38:08They are being sent to the government.
38:11They are being sent to the government.
38:15So, Bombay High Court is a two-year-old government.
38:21It is a two-year-old government.
38:24The government has been sent to the government to the government.
38:29They don't have to send to the government.
38:33So, this is why the war starts.
38:36We know the law.
38:38We know the law.
38:39The court has been given.
38:40We know when we fight,
38:42we will go to hunger strikes.
38:45That's the last way we have been sent to the government.
38:47We have been sent to hunger strikes.
38:49They have been sent to us regularly.
38:51But people who don't know.
38:52They don't know the rights and rights of our people in their own fashion,
38:58and not with the law.
38:59They don't have to partner with employees,
39:02they don't have to partner with families.
39:04They don't have to partner with a single food.
39:05We are not able to do anything.
39:08It is a difference between us and others as a ordinary person.
39:12But we are saying that we should not be able to do everything for us.
39:18We should also be able to do the people for us.
39:23We should also be able to fight against the people.
39:27We should also be able to fight against the people.
39:32We should also be able to fight against the people in jail.
39:39Yes, yes.
39:41I would like to ask another question to you.
39:44One is that someone who is in prison or is a captive,
39:50their physical and mental health,
39:55and we cannot be able to fight against each other.
39:58They should be able to fight against the people in jail.
40:03And if they are there,
40:06they are not able to fight against each other.
40:09And they should be able to fight against each other.
40:14But in particular,
40:16they should be able to fight against the people in prison or the people of jail.
40:21I think in 2017,
40:23the law is a mental health and the law is a law in India.
40:26The law is Consciousness,
40:27of which the government has supported them.
40:28If this law is a law,
40:31the law will be Pillarshan and the law will perhaps be a wrong way,
40:33all these questions are not going to happen.
40:40We are saying that 100 years ago there was a law that made this law.
40:47After 40 years, there was no law that there was a law that has been treated in India.
41:00Then in 1987, a law of government has created a law of government and has been established in it.
41:10It was not a law of government.
41:13Then the law of international law was created.
41:17I hate this kind of a human.
41:21The only thing that is not the right thing,
41:25the human being because of the human being.
41:28The human being and the human being,
41:31the human being,
41:32the human being is the same thing.
41:37Even in our country,
41:39it's the only thing that the police
41:41are leading to the right thing to learn
41:44I have tried to kill myself and tried to kill myself.
41:48So the law says that it doesn't have to understand the truth.
41:53It's a good thing to do with a mental treatment.
41:59And it's a good thing to do with the people.
42:03So all of these things are written in the law.
42:06If we apply it properly,
42:09we will solve problems.
42:14So our country has no problem.
42:18There is no problem in mental health.
42:21There is no problem in jail.
42:23So to implement it,
42:26we have to be able to do the health care,
42:30we have to be able to do the health care.
42:35We are not alone.
42:40But people who are innocent,
42:44we have no time for them.
42:47We have no time in our country.
42:50There is no policy.
42:52But we don't have money to implement it.
42:55We have to make decisions.
42:58So that's why the problems are increasing.
43:01And the jail,
43:02which Sudhaar Guru and Punar Vasan Kendra said,
43:05that's the opposite.
43:07What do you say?
43:08It's a bad thing.
43:10It's a bad thing.
43:11Yes.
43:12Yes.
43:13Now, the bad thing is,
43:15it's a bad thing.
43:17It's a bad thing.
43:19It's a bad thing.
43:20It's a bad thing.
43:21But I would like to ask you the last question,
43:23and the story of it is related to it,
43:24that it never felt like it was like the jail.
43:29The time of jail is not going to happen.
43:31We are breaking the mind of our mouths.
43:32And if it's not like it,
43:33what have you caused the death?
43:34How do you have the death of your soul?
43:36and if it doesn't happen, then how do you have to break your soul into your soul?
43:45Why do we make a jail?
43:48When we know from a good way, we have to keep a jail.
43:55We cannot break ourselves.
44:00If you have to keep yourself in jail,
44:06you will give a chance.
44:10You will have to give yourself a chance.
44:14If you have to keep yourself in jail,
44:18you will give your thoughts.
44:20The thoughts are the strength that you have never broken.
44:26We have 6,5-6 years now, the trial is not going on, the charge frame is not going on,
44:36and the bill is not going on, so in such a long time, in jail, we are not going to be a
44:47problem.
44:58We are not going to be a problem, but in the same way, we are not going to be a problem.
45:07We are not going to be a problem.
45:17Many people have been living within the world,
45:26like Gandhi, Bhagat Singh, Nelson Mandela, Gramsci,
45:32many people have been living within the world,
45:38and many people have fought against the people of the world,
45:47so we have to be living within the world,
45:53and the other,
45:55those who have been living within the world,
45:59who have been living within the world,
46:03who have been living within the world,
46:06which has been living within central places,
46:12and many people who have been living in the world,
46:16who have been living instead of living outside the world?
46:19and all those who have been living in the world,
46:22can't live in the world,
46:24they also will become a part of their own hard work.
46:26Those who often follow the work that will be brought to us.
46:29Thank you very much for joining us.
46:32We have listened to Sudeer Navlej about mental health prisons.
46:36There are a lot of things that we have told you about it.
46:39But in this issue, there are also many things that have been published in our magazine.
46:45Now, you must study this magazine.
46:48And you must also study the Outlook website.
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