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Tobin is sad Kevin Harlen has ditched us... which sets us up to play "That's a Harlen, not a Harlen!" Is Flip Flopper Tobin rats off a ship of the season? JFig pulls out the receipts to help his process of determination.
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00:00You know what made me sad this past weekend?
00:02And how far we've fallen.
00:04Oh, I thought you were going to say they quit making the McRib.
00:08No, I don't like the McRib.
00:09You make that joke.
00:10I don't like the McRib.
00:11Can you make another fat joke?
00:12Nobody likes the McRib except Hawk.
00:15And J-Fig in the tub.
00:16Nope.
00:17Yeah, which is like.
00:19I didn't like it.
00:21I don't know what was the worst part of that.
00:25You holding the McRib or the fact that your mom took the picture?
00:30The light just so light just so light.
00:35Good mom.
00:37Look, she's used to my antics.
00:39She's used to my artsy family.
00:41Artsy family.
00:42It's an artsy family.
00:44We love photos.
00:45We have art.
00:47Wait, I can just picture Dad in the background just staring at the situation.
00:52No, I don't think he was there for that.
00:54I tried making my mom laugh because, you know, it was during those times.
00:59And she was just like, she didn't question it.
01:01She was just over me.
01:02She was numb.
01:02Perfect.
01:03I'm like, okay, cool.
01:06No, I'll tell you what bothered me.
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01:27What I got, yeah, what made me sad was this Justin Herbert, right?
01:33Has this real piss whistle throw where he's shaking off defenders.
01:37That's not what pissed me off because whatever.
01:42Kevin Harlan was on the call.
01:44And I miss Kevin Harlan calls.
01:47I miss it.
01:48I miss it so much.
01:50We were Kevin Harlan's guys.
01:52And it feels like we've been dropped.
01:54You know?
01:55Listen, he don't do the bum-ass games.
01:59No, he doesn't do the bum-ass games.
02:00So, if your team is 0-3, we're not going to get them this year.
02:03They're going to move.
02:05We're not.
02:05I mean, do you see a scenario where we're going to be the number two game in CBS?
02:13I don't know.
02:14Three weeks.
02:16Do you already rats off a ship?
02:18I'm not rats off a ship, but let's be real about it.
02:20We're going to have to work our way.
02:21I'll be real.
02:22Wait, wait, wait.
02:22You got to earn.
02:23You got to earn Kevin Harlan.
02:25Hold on.
02:26Hold on.
02:29Am I the only one in shock that this man just looked me in my eyes and said, let's keep
02:37it real?
02:38Yeah, let's keep it real.
02:40You played.
02:40That's a win.
02:41That's a loss.
02:41Right.
02:42That's not keeping it real.
02:43It absolutely is.
02:44It's the key.
02:44And you're already.
02:45You played.
02:46What's.
02:47You named every game.
02:50We're in week four.
02:52And all that's out the window.
02:55All right.
02:55Well, let's play.
02:55That's a Harlan.
02:56I kind of want to say that's a point.
03:04So we're looking at it right now.
03:12So question in order to play.
03:17That's Harlan.
03:18That's not Harlan.
03:20Don't in the subcategories.
03:22Are we played.
03:23That's a win.
03:24That's a loss.
03:25Because if you know, you're only going to get Kevin Harlan's certain situations, then
03:30you got to get to those certain situations.
03:31OK, so we're playing.
03:33That's where that's what it's not that.
03:34No, it's not that.
03:35That's when that's a loss.
03:36OK, because next week is ESPN.
03:38So that's not a Harlan.
03:39We're getting Aikman.
03:40Oh, I don't even know if we're getting Aikman.
03:42Aikman and Buck.
03:42It's two games.
03:43It's two games.
03:44Right.
03:44I'm going to have those guys up and late at night.
03:46That's right.
03:47The old don't like to be up late.
03:48Yeah, we got a long Monday, dude.
03:52We got a long Monday.
03:53Who else is playing on Monday?
03:54You know what the other game is?
03:55It's going to be a West Coast game.
03:56I'll let them see who it is.
03:58Raiders?
04:01Week four.
04:03It is.
04:05Oh, Cincinnati versus Denver.
04:09No.
04:10Joe Buck's going to want to go to Miami.
04:12Huh?
04:13Joe Buck and Aikman are going to want to go to Miami.
04:15They're not going to go for Jake Browning.
04:16If it was, if Jake Browning and, and, and, well, I don't know.
04:20Cause it's the ABC game.
04:21So do they do the ABC game or do they do the ESPN game?
04:24Cincinnati sucks.
04:26They suck with Joe Burrow.
04:28They were flawed with Joe Burrow.
04:30I mean like, okay.
04:31Yeah.
04:32Okay.
04:32Wait, if, if here, if I switched to a and Joe Burrow, we would call to a
04:41looter and a riot.
04:46I agree.
04:47Cause they ain't winning no games, but there is, I mean, like he gets a
04:53little bit more benefit of the doubt.
04:53Cause he's won playoff games.
04:55Tua has not.
04:55Okay.
04:55He's won playoff games.
04:57Like, okay.
04:58He's been hurt more than Tua.
05:01Uh, they've been hurt about as equally.
05:03I think by this year, if Tua can stay healthy, then I think he will catch Tua
05:06and miss games.
05:07No, he missed.
05:10This will be the second time he missed almost the whole season.
05:13Um, yeah, this is, I, like I said, he was probably going to pass him this
05:18year.
05:18I don't think that he did.
05:19I think they were close, but I think he passes him this year.
05:21We're probably in the middle of the season.
05:23D sizzle says, no, no, Tobin.
05:26I don't appreciate that.
05:27Yikes.
05:27Excuse me.
05:28Uh, you were all in on this team.
05:30You flip flopper.
05:31Okay.
05:31That's ridiculous.
05:32All in.
05:33I was all in on this team.
05:35I tried to be a little optimistic.
05:37Oh, a little.
05:38A little.
05:39A little.
05:40Minus.
05:41Why?
05:42Minus one.
05:43Bottom bar.
05:44Oh, my goodness.
05:46This is ridiculous.
05:46I need to know the reasoning behind a minus one before I give it.
05:49Oh, you did.
05:50One.
05:50Oh, he gave it to himself.
05:51That's his.
05:52He knows.
05:53Brittany, I don't know if you're familiar with his work.
05:55But before the season, he plays that's a win, that's a loss.
06:02In the summer, before camp, then we update it and put another title on it and play it again.
06:11Right?
06:12And he's like, oh, we're going to start off season three and one.
06:16We're going to do this, this, this, this, and this.
06:18After week three, now he's rats off a ship.
06:21I thought the defense would be better.
06:22And all everybody's saying is, dude, what did you say?
06:27What did you say their record was going to be?
06:29What did I say their record was going to be?
06:31Didn't you say 12 and five or 11 and six?
06:33I think best case scenario.
06:34No, you didn't say.
06:35I think I said best case scenario.
06:37I have the list somewhere here.
06:39I think I said best case scenario.
06:40No, you didn't.
06:41I think so.
06:42Wait.
06:42Minus one.
06:43Did you see?
06:44Did you hear that?
06:45He's heard enough.
06:45Yes.
06:47Yes.
06:47He's heard enough.
06:48Oh, my goodness.
06:49I mean, to be fair, I think most people were optimistic.
06:52I was optimistic.
06:53But then after the first game of the season, I was like, yeah.
06:56Sometimes you can tell.
06:56First round of a fight.
06:57You can tell.
06:57You can't tell within the first month.
07:00I've always said.
07:01I'm sorry.
07:02I feel like we can.
07:02I feel like we can.
07:03No, you can't.
07:04But you came.
07:04You even came after week one and you were like, mm.
07:07No.
07:09Some of the things that I saw were disappointing that we're still doing them
07:13after four years.
07:15So we agree.
07:16No.
07:18You know, that is not a way to get out of what you have said.
07:26Okay?
07:27I would not describe me as all in.
07:30Okay?
07:31I root for the teams that I root for.
07:33And I like to go at it with a half.
07:35I'm not going to go with a half glass half empty before the season starts.
07:38Let me ask you this.
07:40Why before every sport, before every season, except hockey and baseball,
07:51but before every heat season and every football season,
07:55you call me a party pooper and a Debbie Downer and everybody on the chat
08:01gets in on it because I try to keep it real.
08:03You know what?
08:04So would I be less of a Debbie Downer if I say, oh,
08:07the Dolphins are going to be 13-4?
08:09God, I'd be a damn liar.
08:12Well, okay.
08:12Because that's what it would be.
08:15Because that's not reality.
08:17But to say I'm a Debbie Downer because I go, nah, I don't know.
08:21I just don't agree that I was all in.
08:22I didn't say the Dolphins would go to the Super Bowl.
08:24Where did you say they were going?
08:26I said they were in their first playoff game.
08:27Yeah.
08:28I was wrong.
08:29No, see?
08:30And listen, I'm going to tell you this.
08:33It's not over yet.
08:34They got 14 games.
08:35We'll see.
08:36We'll see.
08:37Solana sent me some chart last night that was like the defensive lineman
08:41pass pressures.
08:42And I don't know how to read charts, but I know that Zach Seeler was on the
08:45wrong side of it because the good was over here and Zach Seeler was down
08:49here.
08:50I'm like, oh, that can't be good.
08:51Can I?
08:53You know what I love about what we do is that there's so many people with all
09:01these numbers and pass win rate and all this stuff and whatever.
09:05I can watch the damn game and tell you he ain't getting the pressure that he was
09:10getting before for whatever reason.
09:13I think they can slide the protection over to Zach Seeler and block Grant one-on-one.
09:21Now, they couldn't do that with Calais, so that freed up Seeler a little bit more.
09:28Now, he's the double-team guy.
09:30So, yeah, no.
09:31I understand.
09:32No, I hate it.
09:33No.
09:34Mm-mm.
09:34I'm just saying what the chart says.
09:36No, the chart.
09:37I don't care what the chart says.
09:37Now, he can still go speak to a school of your choice.
09:40Hmm.
09:42School of hard knocks.
09:44If you guys want to go, go to WQM.com.
09:48It's our MVP experience with the Dolphins, Zach Seeler.
09:51He's on board to speak at a school in either Broward or Dade.
09:53You just got to go to WQM.com.
09:55Put in the school of your choice.
09:56You can win.
09:57Zach Seeler's on board to speak to the kids and more.
09:59Give them life lessons.
10:00Teach them how to be a million.
10:01You know, and, yeah, check that on out.
10:07But he's not really alluding, you know, fat cat accusations.
10:11I'm not calling him that.
10:12I'm just saying one could wonder.
10:15I told you what the problem is.
10:16No, I understand you.
10:16Sometimes on the defensive line is something as simple as, you know,
10:20last year you wasn't a doubled guy.
10:23Now you're the doubled guy.
10:24So somebody else got to make a play, in which case you're doing your job,
10:29even though you don't get the numbers.
10:30If you're getting singled up, you got to make plays.
10:35That's how it works.
10:36It's always worked that way.
10:38So if there's not anybody to draw any attention and they feel, hey,
10:42if we double Zach Seeler, nobody else is going to make a play,
10:45that's the real problem.
10:47Can you, Brittany, can you invite me some football music?
10:49Can I get some football music here for our very new important game?
10:53Just any, any kind of football music will do because I really think it's
11:00important that we break this all down in the coming weeks on.
11:03So now we go.
11:05That's not a Harlan.
11:08So, yeah, that's a sound like, that sounds like football.
11:14So, October 12th, week six, hosting the LA Chargers.
11:24Is that a Harlan or not a Harlan?
11:28That could be a Harlan.
11:29It could be a Harlan, but is he there for us?
11:31Let's be honest about it.
11:32Is he there for us?
11:32Are we, are we, are we the, the apple of his eye anymore or is it charges?
11:38All right.
11:39You didn't say, but hold on.
11:42You didn't say why.
11:43Okay.
11:43So possibly that could be a Harlan.
11:44What about at Cleveland?
11:46No, that's not a Harlan.
11:48No, he's not coming to Cleveland.
11:49When's the last time Kevin Harlan's been to Cleveland?
11:52Baker Mayfield.
11:53Yeah.
11:54Been a while.
11:54I mean, although they have won a playoff game before.
11:57Since.
11:58What about recently than Dolphins?
12:00What about October 26th?
12:02Or we like to also call that Tobin.
12:05The birthday is Eve, Eve.
12:07Eve, Eve.
12:08What the hell does that mean?
12:10Two days before my birthday.
12:12At Atlanta, one o'clock on CBS on October.
12:15Is that a Harlan or not a Harlan?
12:17No.
12:17That's not a Harlan.
12:18Oh, but keep in mind, it doesn't have to be the best game.
12:20The second best game.
12:21Has to be the second best game.
12:23Has to be the second best game.
12:24Because this past week, can I be honest about this past week?
12:28It was hard to find a good football game.
12:30I agree.
12:31So, he might have ended up with.
12:34Who do the Chargers play?
12:35The Broncos?
12:37Yeah.
12:38I think they play the Broncos.
12:39No.
12:39Yes.
12:40They beat the Broncos.
12:41That's a good game.
12:43Okay.
12:43What about.
12:44Let's see.
12:45What's the next game?
12:46Next game is Baltimore.
12:48That's on Amazon Prime.
12:49So, that's not a Harlan.
12:50Hosting Buffalo on November 9th.
12:56Is that a Harlan or not a Harlan?
12:57Could be.
12:58Could be.
12:58Could be.
12:59But what if the Dolphins stink?
13:00Might not be Harlan.
13:01I think it could be.
13:02It's still a statement game.
13:03Especially after.
13:04According to you.
13:04Okay.
13:05Could be a Harlan.
13:05Especially after how they played the other day.
13:07You called it five different games.
13:08Could be a Harlan.
13:08You've got five different names.
13:10Wait.
13:10No.
13:10So, for this one, he labeled it a statement game.
13:13Unless they.
13:14What is it?
13:14Oh, you have my list?
13:15Of course I do.
13:16Unless they won week three.
13:18Then it's a super statement game.
13:23I stand by that.
13:24So.
13:24What did I label this week?
13:26This week, you labeled it a TCB.
13:31Oh.
13:31Now it's a must win.
13:34It's not a TCB.
13:35No.
13:35And right now, it's a give me something.
13:37Which was my whole point the whole time.
13:39That you're going to change all the names as the season goes on.
13:43Let's see.
13:44Awesome.
13:44All right.
13:45So, we think possibly hosting the Chargers as a Harlan.
13:49And hosting the Bills.
13:50Hosting the Bills as a Harlan.
13:51It only has to be the second biggest game.
13:55Next week is NFL Network against their game.
13:58Then they got the Saints on Fox.
14:00It's not their game.
14:01And then the last two CBS games at New York against the Jets.
14:06That's not a Harlan.
14:08That's not a Harlan.
14:09And then finally, then they do Monday Night Football against Steelers.
14:13That could be.
14:14Sunday Night.
14:14That's good.
14:15Let me tell you something right now.
14:16I feel like it's a possible because this one's labeled about four times.
14:19Let me tell you this one.
14:21He's got four labels on the Steelers.
14:23On the Steelers.
14:24What's the labels?
14:26Revenge.
14:26Statement.
14:27And Winter Soldier.
14:29Make a stinker for Minko.
14:34Wait.
14:35Wait.
14:36Now.
14:37Let me just say this.
14:39How do you feel after hearing it back and realizing you said those words?
14:43Not great.
14:43SDI says.
14:47So when you get documented.
14:48That's how we heard it the first time.
14:50SDI says it's cute to think the second biggest game would involve the Dolphins.
14:54Well, I'm just going by who they're playing.
14:56Who they're playing.
14:56It's not necessarily going to have to be the Dolphins.
14:59Right.
14:59You know.
15:00And keep in mind.
15:01Like last.
15:02Last week.
15:03It could have very easily been anybody because all the games sucked.
15:10There weren't a lot of good matchups.
15:13Yeah.
15:13If I'm like perusing the CBS games that week.
15:22Yeah.
15:23I'm saying that's going to be a Harlan.
15:24Might even be a Romo.
15:26Second best.
15:27Right.
15:28I don't know.
15:29Oh.
15:29Oh, well, listen.
15:30I will say, though, if we're going to say the Buffalo thing.
15:33Romo loves hogging the Bills games because he loves Josh.
15:36Exactly.
15:37Oh, Jim.
15:40Uh, Sunday night football week 16 against the, uh, that's getting flexed.
15:45What?
15:46Sunday night football against the Bengals.
15:48Oh.
15:49That's getting flexed.
15:52Uh, week 17 against Tampa.
15:55That's a Fox game.
15:56And then finally, uh, final game against doing.
15:58If the Dolphins get back in the playoff race somehow, so maybe that's a Harlan.
16:02Maybe that's a Harlan.
16:03I mean, it's.
16:04But we have only two potential Harlins the rest of the way.
16:07Week three.
16:09I mean, week four.
16:10It's week four.
16:11Yeah, but we agree.
16:12It's week four.
16:13I understand.
16:14So you're saying that there's no chance of them.
16:16I'm not saying there's no chance.
16:18I'm saying there's two chances at two Harlins.
16:20No, no, no, no, no, no.
16:21The way you totally dismissed them getting back in the playoff hunt.
16:25I'm not dismissing.
16:26I'm just saying for, for Harlan's sake, for Harlan purposes only, you know, they could
16:34probably get into playoffs with 10 wins, right?
16:36That's optimistic.
16:40What is that the rest of the way?
16:42That's 10 and.
16:43Four.
16:43Four?
16:44Yeah.
16:47How do you like those chances?
16:48I mean, after week three, after three losses, not good, but we said the same thing about
16:57the Marlins.
16:57Don't worry, though.
16:58We said the same thing about the Marlins.
17:00They had one good month.
17:01No, and they're still in the mix.
17:05Yeah.
17:05By like a percentage.
17:07Okay.
17:07So still in the mix.
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