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This episode of 5 Live provides an overview of significant developments across India, focusing on the collapse of civic infrastructure in major cities.
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00:00very good evening you've tuned in to five live with me sneha mordani on the show today all about
00:08the criminal apathy that is written large in the shameful collapse of civic infrastructure
00:14of our cities bodies floating in flooded streets an image that should have shamed
00:21authorities in kolkata the city of joy well bengaluru too is joining the hall of shame
00:28with potholes as big as craters we're putting all our focus the spotlight on that today
00:35let's begin with the top 10 headlines
00:37kata's festive spirit has drowned under civic apathy flooded streets submerged pandals
00:49electrocution deaths have jolted the city of joy the metal department sounded a flood alert
00:56and the mamata banerjee-led government's misgovernance is now under the radar
01:01politics over potholes continues to intensify in bengaluru bjp hits the streets across karnataka
01:11over potholes bengaluru bjp mla files fills potholes ahead of protest
01:17delhi ashram molestation horror accused chaitanya anand baba a self-styled godman at a prominent
01:30delhi ashram is facing serious molestation allegations from multiple female students from
01:36obscene messages to threatening students this scandal has shaken the ashram's image and the accused
01:42in bihar congress keeps they just be hanging on the cm dream congress says no hurry to name the
01:53bihar cm face congress says the priority is seat sharing and not cm pick
01:59political storm brews in tamiladu dmk versus bjp air dmk war escalates udainidi mocks eps amit
02:12shah meeting says sanghi's contenter tamiladu bjp hits back slams udainidi says dmk's final election is
02:21here union territory administration in leiladak has imposed immediate ban on protest and gatherings
02:31in leh protest is splashed with the police in leh this morning pelting stones at officials
02:37and burning down a police vehicle four people were dead 70 plus someone injured
02:42amid his standoff over trade tariff his external affairs minister as jay shankar addressed the
02:52high-level meeting of like-minded global south countries in new york warning that the developing
02:57world faces growing challenges mentioning the impact of unstable trade and investment flows
03:04jay shankar stressed the rights of the global south are now on the front
03:09a big shake-up for indian techies eyeing jobs in the u.s days after hiking the fees on h1b visas
03:19the trump administration is proposing foundational changes to the system instead of a random lottery
03:26visas will now be allocated based on skill level and wages highly paid high-skilled workers will get
03:33priority while entry-level applicants could see their chances shrink
03:38trump has taken a u-turn on one of the key foreign policy issues of his precedence
03:45shortly after a meeting with the ukrainian president waldemir zelensky trump abandoned
03:51his insistence with ukraine to give up land to strike a peace deal with russia trump has instead
03:57declared that ukraine with the support of europe is in a position to fight and win
04:02all of ukraine back in its original form
04:06typhoon ragasa fears the storm of the year has unleashed
04:12catastrophic winds floods and massive landslides across southern china and hong kong
04:19entire neighborhoods are underwater roads have collapsed emergency crews raise against
04:26kolkata is under the grip of severe civic apathy as it reels from the aftermath of heavy inundation
04:48following the cloudburst with flooded streets submerged pandals electrocution deaths horrific images of victims
04:55bodies floating in the water have gone completely viral raising serious questions on the mamatab energy
05:01government's preparedness in spite of the warnings from the indian med department
05:05it was pictures on your screens at this point in time of a body floating in the water
05:12an electrocuted body there being examined by the police absolutely shameful opposition calls it nothing
05:19short of a civic murder and all of this comes as the city was preparing to celebrate durga puja with the
05:26festive spirit now completely dampened by this deluge take a look at this strong report from the city of joy
05:42at a time when kolkata should be alive with the spirit of puja and the sound of dhak
05:57the scene is starkly different this year flooded streets inundated pandas
06:05live buyers in the water dead bodies on the road
06:08at least nine electrocution deaths after heavy rains lashed the city
06:13on the v hours of monday and the mayor shrugs it off saying that he has no magic wand to make the
06:19the waters disappear
06:41the opposition is livid
06:43they call each death a civic murder blaming the mamata banerji government for incompetence
06:50due to the heavy rainfall water may accumulate it is understandable but nowhere in this country you
06:57will find this kind of death these deaths are happening due to the incompetence of
07:03momentum energy's administration and these are not the dead these are the murder
07:07the bjp is demanding one pro rupees in x russia for the victims families and non-bailable firs against
07:15power distribution company cesc and the kolkata police the loka date why due to this government
07:26the chief minister on the other hand blamed utra pradesh and bihar for not dredging the ganga in their
07:41states claiming that that caused water levels to rise in west bengal
07:45the med department claims it had warned of rains but the government did nothing and lives were lost
08:07festive spirits drowned pandas waterlogged months of preparation destroyed
08:13this is the southern part of the city and minto park area and look at this these areas these are
08:20all inundated and uh kolkata municipal corporation is trying to pump out the water from these areas
08:27trying to drain out the water from these areas but uh since yesterday uh the the water is receded uh
08:34uh uh receded a bit but not uh not as expected yet the city still waits through the waters to welcome
08:41mark but the question echoes will this wake up call finally force accountability for such
08:48blatant apathy with anupa mishra in kolkata bureau report india today
08:56i'm going to go straight across to my colleagues getting in more details of that big story that
09:00they've been tracking tapas and gupta is live with us from kolkata anupa mishra also from the city of joy
09:06not a city of joy anymore distressing pictures tapas coming in i mean if anything the authorities
09:12should have been put to shame with what we have seen today with those images of bodies floating in
09:17the water a man lies electrocuted there to tell our viewers these are very distressing pictures
09:22and we advise viewer discretion you know given the situation how are they now responding i understand
09:29that there has been you know unprecedented drains yeah but how are they now looking at this
09:37once the political war has already begun uh following the deluge we had seen yesterday and
09:42today as well uh it's a plane game going on between the opposition parties and the thermal congress
09:46the state government the state government chose to put the owners onto csc the power distribution company
09:51however the uh csc have given a statement yesterday stating that all the deaths that happened
09:56was not because of uh yeah not because of fault on the part of the csc uh and and and now the
10:02situation is improving slowly and steady there are few pockets still in kolkata which are submerged but
10:09in majority of the locations uh the situation is coming back to novelty but politics is speaking up and and
10:17in one hand when djp is following uh this act as a and equivalence of murder the state government is
10:24putting the onus onto the central government uh alleging that proper dredging is not done in dbc and
10:30maiton dams and that's the reason that when the water flows down to river hooghly it affects kolkata
10:36that's not the excuse that the state government is giving but uh it is very unfortunate the kind of
10:42visuals that we have seen uh in in the city of kolkata the city of joy as we know
10:47uh but uh this is again not perhaps for the first time that we have witnessed such incidents
10:52there have been series of such incidents happening uh since last few years when rain um
10:57institution rain happens in kolkata seminar is in a significant other parts of west as well
11:04and whenever such situation happens the blame automatically shifts to the power distribution
11:08company but we haven't seen any stern action from the state government as yet or any legal action
11:13against the power distribution company if they are really responsible as the state claims
11:18well absolutely if they aren't then who is really it's absolutely shameful pictures
11:23from bali gunji in kolkata there that we put out for our viewers and remember this is the festive
11:28season we're just waiting for the pujo to start anupam and look at how the spirits of the city are
11:34getting dampened here not just the rain but floods the apathy that we see there are people dying
11:40there's electrocution i mean 10 people have lost their lives at the end of the day
11:48absolutely it's extremely sad that these people have to die uh in in a situation where electrocution
11:55was happened and since you have to understand that two things one thing is there the kolkata has
12:00received uh received a rainfall which is unprecedented and never seen in recent years that especially the
12:07southern part of kolkata and that is what tmc is saying it's a it's a full-blown political war going
12:12on between tmc and bjp on this issue and tmc is saying that kolkata had received unprecedented rainfall
12:19and if any other city would have received such rainfall that situation would have been same
12:25on the other hand bjp is saying that when imd had issued uh the alert why kolkata
12:32uh mayor or and administration did not take adequate measures and they are blaming straight
12:38away uh to the uh mamta administration for the situation that that unfolded since yesterday
12:44morning and we have seen we have roamed around different parts of kolkata especially southern
12:48part of kolkata uh few uh few areas have still uh got water and they have not receded fully uh yeah
12:57major parts of kolkata uh the water has receded but still there are areas low-lying areas where
13:04water is still there so this is a very long period and people had to face uh electric cuts electricity
13:12cuts they'll have to face very very extreme conditions difficult conditions to reach their offices
13:18or from office to home so these are the situations where people were angry and that is why uh bjp is
13:26playing blaming uh tmc government for whole the situation which has erupted since yesterday morning
13:32especially the uh death on the other hand tmc is saying that this is not a right situation to do
13:40politics bjp is doing the politics over dead bodies and the full-blown uh political war game is going on
13:49between bjp and tmc over this issue i mean the opposition of course is asking questions and the people
13:54also are asking questions of the government of the administration in a situation when we deserve
13:59just so much better than this nonsense that has been given to us the streets are flooded people
14:05are dying what does the government expect not to answer questions i think that's a very false and
14:09that's a very wrong sort of an expectation for a government to have i'm going to leave it at that
14:14for the moment tapas anupa i'm putting that story into perspective for us now from the
14:32and from the waterlogged lanes of kolkata to the crater roads of bangaluru india
14:38a nightmare really is unfolding real time civic infrastructure is collapsing lives are being lost
14:44accountability is missing here kolkata reels from electrocution that's in flooded streets
14:50bangaluru's potholes continue to claim lives and spark out region rightfully so politics over
14:56portals is also exploding with the opposition bjp in this state launching protests demanding better
15:02infrastructure of the administration here's the detailed reports welcome to bengaluru where the
15:11streets look less like roads and more like battlefields with craters cracks and potholes
15:18turning daily commutes into obstacle courses this is portaluru this entire stretch has huge potholes and
15:26craters and even you can see the ambulance which is struggling to cross this particular road they have
15:31to cross huge potholes even on this particular road every single day the commuters had to leave at
15:38least 30 minutes prior to their destination just to cross these kinds of road in bengaluru city
15:45as potholes continue to swallow bengaluru's roads the city is witnessing a fierce political showdown
15:51the bjp conducted a statewide stir called road roko to demand that potholes be filled and infrastructure
16:04improved in some areas bjp leaders have taken matters into their own hands they have filled the potholes
16:10themselves in congress government sidramaya led government wherever we we go there is a part world
16:19wherever we you go there's a part world that is the reality of uh uh bangalore this is a part world
16:28today we feel today this part world we feel uh today just today sir bjp karekarta by own we are
16:36filling this uh all the things chief minister sidramaya has promised swift repairs and has given
16:42officials a one-month deadline to fix the roads but deputy chief minister dk shiv kumar suspects a political
16:49conspiracy
17:00Meanwhile, prominent citizens of Bengaluru are targeting the civic body.
17:19Remember, this protest comes just days after tech giant Blackpuck announced plans to relocate.
17:25Whether it's political rivalry or administrative lapses,
17:29Bengaluru's pothole crisis highlights a shared failure.
17:33What Bengaluru truly needs is for everyone to stop pointing fingers and start paving the way forward.
17:39With Sagai Raj and Nagarjun Dwarakannath in Bengaluru, Bureau Report, India Today.
17:46Alright, the big question is, will that happen?
17:50Will the authorities then stop pointing fingers and do what is needed to be done,
17:55that has fixed these potholes on a priority basis at the end of the day?
18:00That really is their job.
18:02Sagai Raj is getting in more details, has been tracking that story relentlessly
18:06and is joining us live from Bangalore City at this point in time.
18:10Sagai, you've been looking at these reports.
18:12Of course, filing the ground reports and sending us what the Bharatiya Janta Party has been saying.
18:16But, you know, that doesn't solve the problem at the end of the day.
18:19Yes, it puts the spotlight on the issue.
18:21The government says, we need a month.
18:23Is that all that they require to fix this problem?
18:26Is that a real picture?
18:28A realistic picture, rather.
18:29No, the Karnataka government have informed all the contractors to ensure that
18:39they should fill all the potholes across the city.
18:42And even D.K. Shrikumar, when you spoke to India today in our conclave,
18:46he has categorically mentioned that he has counted potholes
18:49and there are reports that there are 5,000 potholes,
18:51but he says there are more than 10,000 potholes.
18:54He himself have got the numbers and they claim that they will be able to finish in a month.
19:00However, the chief minister have asked all the contracts to ensure that
19:04they speed up the work and finish the job
19:07and ensure that there is a smooth corridor for everybody.
19:10As I speak now, you can see we are on Richmond Road
19:13and there are multiple potholes in this particular road.
19:16And this is one of those important roads here in Art of City in Bengaluru.
19:20And people have to cross these potholes every single day when they are commuting.
19:26And in fact, if you have to reach a spot in an hour, people take one and a half hour.
19:30So they have to leave 30 minutes prior to the destination time.
19:34And that's how the people are taking these kind of trouble,
19:39traveling every single day in the city.
19:42You know, at the end of the day, we've seen this familiar story play out year after year
19:47and it's been happening for a very long time, you know, of people dying.
19:51Unfortunately, it's just been normalized in the city of Bangalore
19:54with people now, in fact, having to navigate through the traffic.
19:57There are accidents and there are deaths because of these potholes.
20:01But now, with IT companies actually issuing an ultimate amendment saying,
20:04listen, we can't put our employees through this.
20:07Now we're going to be leaving the city.
20:08You do what you have to do because we can't live here anymore.
20:11The city is unlivable.
20:12It's when we saw these reactions coming in from the government saying,
20:16hold on, we are at this.
20:18We are fixing this, isn't it?
20:19They had to be, you know, in the way shaken up from their slumber in a sense.
20:23Isn't it?
20:24It's okay.
20:29Absolutely.
20:29Bengaluru is an international city and a lot of travelers who visit the city.
20:33I have also highlighted the poor infrastructure,
20:36especially the roads as well as the footpaths.
20:38And it is high time that the Karnataka government, which should take cognizance of these civic issues
20:44and address these kind of issues.
20:46And the larger question is, Sneha, that we are well aware that post-monsoon,
20:51there might be potholes which will appear post-monsoon.
20:53There will be a lot of problems.
20:55Why there are no precautionary measures taken?
20:57Time and again, they have witnessed these kind of potholes every single year.
21:01But still, the government have not woken up.
21:03The administration has not woken up.
21:05The bureaucrats are not woken up.
21:07They are still sleeping and they wake up only when any kind of untoward incident has been reported.
21:14That's when they realize, yes, we need to work on those potholes.
21:17We need to fill those potholes.
21:18Why do you need to give so much time for all those things?
21:20Ultimately, the taxpayers have to suffer because they don't get a better corridor in the city.
21:27I'm going to leave it there for the moment.
21:28Sagaraj, getting asked those details with the government, of course,
21:32saying that we are going to offer these solutions, you know, fix these potholes in a month's time.
21:37Be patient is what the government says.
21:39It's not a problem unique to Bengaluru City.
21:41It happens in other cities as well.
21:43But the fact of the matter is that Bengaluru City and Karnataka, by and large,
21:48has been in use for these potholes and all, of course, for the wrong reasons.
21:51From Bengaluru to this big, developing story in Delhi City,
21:59a self-styled government at a prominent Delhi ashram
22:03is facing some serious molestation allegations from multiple female students.
22:09From obscene messages to threatening students, the scandal continues to unfold.
22:14Here's a look at this report.
22:21A self-styled godman once hailed as a spiritual guide
22:29is now at the centre of a sensational scandal
22:32that's rocked a well-known Delhi ashram.
22:38At the Shri Sharda Institute of Indian Management in Vasankunsh,
22:4217 women students have given statements to the police,
22:45alleging that Swami Chaitanya Nanda Saraswati,
22:48the ashram's senior official who was also the manager at the institute,
22:52used obscene language, sent vulgar messages
22:54and made unwanted advances towards them.
22:57Even female faculty members and administrators
23:00have pressured them to comply with the accused's demands.
23:03The police had taken statements of 32 students
23:06as part of an investigation based on a complaint filed in August.
23:10All students belong to economically weaker sections.
23:18Swami Saraswati's chats reveal how he asked students to come to his room
23:21lured them with promises of foreign trips,
23:24saying they won't have to spend a rupee
23:26and then threatened to fail them in exams
23:28if they refuse to comply.
23:35The police have seized a flashy red Volvo
23:38fitted with a fake UN number plate
23:40used by the accused.
23:41lal-karar's car was used by the police.
23:46This was used by the white car
23:48and there was a fake number plate
23:51that was used by the UN-empresa.
23:53UN-empresa, UNK number plate
23:55used by the police.
23:56The police had taken this car
23:58and when they were talking about this number,
24:00they was told that they were not going to the car.
24:03digital evidence including hard disks and cctv footage are now with forensic teams
24:27a manhunt is underway the government's last known location was traced to agra
24:36multiple raids have been conducted across delhi and nearby cities
24:43the august my complaint i am a repass and we are proceeding as per law fire was registered well
24:48in time and investigation is on now abhi statements still under process and statements
24:52lija rae hai hai chhatrao ki or we are proceeding as per law accused joe hai manager tha and shri
24:57chaitanya nand saraswati unka naam hai or he's absconding right now and he's
25:01going to search for the purpose meanwhile the prestigious shingiri sharda peetham has publicly
25:07cut all ties with swami saraswati calling his actions illegal inappropriate and damaging to the
25:13peetham's reputation
25:18from the classroom to the courtroom from guru to fugitive
25:21this scandal has shaken the ashram's image to its core
25:25and with the accused still absconding the story is far from being over
25:31with arvind oja and himanshra mishra in delhi bureau report india today
25:41the name is khan this time it's aryan khan junior khan has answered all his critics in style
25:48the bads of bollywood isn't just another netflix drop it's bollywood's own roast with extra masala
25:55and a big splash of self-awareness if you thought star kids playing it safe was the norm
26:01aryan khan is here and he's just flipped the script completely right from the start it grabs you with
26:08the forbidden love story between an outsider and a nepo kid building up to a wild chaotic climax that
26:15actually perfectly fits the show's title you know the full version right the show is a galaxy of star
26:21power ramir khan raja mauli salman khan ranveer kapoor raj kumar raw and of course shara khan himself
26:27but the real scene stealers imran hashmi as an intimacy coordinator to because of course who else but
26:36bollywood would need that role and of course there's ranveer singh who fakes an injury just to dodge a karan
26:42johar flick they're back and forth with kejo playing this fictionalized kangna inspired movie
26:48mafia is the kind of meta banter bollywood has secretly been craving for and then there's the
26:54dialogue pure gold some of them the line are you from bollywood how can you stand next to a man who's
27:00smoking a joint that's already a meme fest it's gone wild online there's plenty of wit thrown around
27:07in the writing but none so delicious as when shara khan cracks self-deprecating jokes proving that even
27:14king khan can laugh at himself then there is a social media reply it's on fire the sly digs at the
27:21former ncb chief hit a nerve samir ayana rocking the t-shirt which said say no to cruise the premier was
27:28an instant viral fodder srk's chill reaction to all of that cures also pure class pure srk now critics
27:36are reasonably impressed as well 82 percent on the rotten tomatoes calling it a masala mix of
27:42chaos and charm translation it's messy it's loud sometimes all over the place but you can't stop
27:49watching compared to other star kid debuts aryan feels less polished but far more honest the show
27:56isn't just about nepotism or industry gossip it's a cheeky mirror held up to bollywood's obsession with
28:02fame family power and for a world that thrives on glitter and gloss this raw self-roast is a
28:10refreshing change and it's only befitting that aryan khan directed this because who else who better to
28:18really poke fun at the family business than the new khan in town so here's my take on the bads of
28:24bollywood aryan khan deserves credit for ambition for honesty even for guts it's messy yes but it's
28:32fresh it's audacious and it's full of potential star kids come and go but it takes real courage to laugh
28:39at yourself at your misery at your controversy and aryan khan has just rewritten the rule book he's really
28:46telling everyone that my name is khan but this time it's junior khan it's aryan khan so that's what we
28:53are looking at let me quickly welcome our guests on the panel today we've got kunal koly with us
28:59director we've also uh got the literature and he's an image guru kunal that was my take what was your
29:05take of bads of bollywood hi sunal thanks for having me on and uh my take is that you know i gotta give a
29:16lot of credit to sharuk and gauri for the way they've brought up aryan where he's so honest
29:23he's so honest and he's so aware this is not the work of a prince of a man or a boy or a young man
29:34brought up with a silver spoon because he's seen every nuance and he's understood it and he's got the
29:40depth you only get that depth and you only get that understanding when you're brought up correctly
29:46and of course that's that's one aspect of it of being brought up correctly and you know without any
29:53i'm sure he must have been pampered and everything but he was treated normally you can tell because
29:57i've not seen anyone from a privileged background understand nuances so beautifully
30:02and i think for that i give credit to uh sharuk and gauri i know there is a uh yes of course i agree
30:11with everything you said i think there are moments that are just sheer brilliance when raghav just
30:17stands there and starts singing kaho na kaho i just got up and cracked up it was and then he doesn't
30:24stop he goes on that's anyway all over the place you know but i think to you know to talk about these
30:31aspects that to do something so unexpected to he could have made a film out of this you know and
30:39uh he could have done anything he could have acted in it hell everyone is talking about why isn't aryan
30:44acting you know uh i've told him i've told sharuk like why isn't he acting and what did he tell you
30:51why doesn't he act so i mean sharuk just said this is what he wants to do and uh we need good directors
30:57to which i joke said my own number but but the fact is that you know i can see that here is a
31:05director with a new voice a new vision a new completely new language the way to look at things
31:13and i'm not talking about the expletives i mean you know it's on netflix it's fine uh don't be prudish
31:20about it i know that people saying what was the need i you know i didn't even it didn't bother me
31:26or i didn't think there were too many till people started talking about it yeah and for that i'm like
31:32you know it's like you know it's like you know it's like you know it's a fun ride it's
31:40look at the look at the nuance the other character i love was the character of uh that uh rajat plays
31:47uh you know he doesn't give up ever he says because i'll only lose if i give up i mean the dialogues
31:55what beautiful dialogues you know to even extract dialogues like this i think my favorite dialogue
31:59was ki sitare to aate jate rehenge par asman hamesha right like that one that was really after a
32:06really long time made somebody say dude what a dialogue you know so get up it had like that movie
32:13quality in it there was i think another one where uh a sort of tippedi as they say is being made on the
32:21lead actor to say ki yeh ott star hai yeh film star material hai right so there are these little
32:27things that really get you so excited so so these are the things so and and rajat's character like i
32:32was saying so he is the guy who's waiting for 15 years to come back or to make a mark and when he
32:38does he doesn't become a nice guy he becomes a beep you know he becomes a really bad guy he wears a
32:46jacket saying 51 percent and he takes on sharuk and uh and what i love about so you you see where
32:54where arhin gets this from also is a lot from sharuk because sharuk yeah can make a dig at
33:00himself it looks like the entire family was behind this it looks like that they were on to prove
33:06something it looks like that they wanted to respond but they're in their own style dilip charyan
33:12is this well i think sorry sorry sorry just uh is this a case study before you go to dilip yeah just
33:18that i i think uh for whatever might have happened in at whatever time sharuk responded with uh
33:28he responded with that one dialogue but i think this is just adds off to aryan uh new geniuses on the
33:35block and new directors on the block uh i hope he acts as well i hope he acts and directs himself
33:40that'll be great i hope he does that because he has the talent to do it although directors might
33:45like me would love to direct aryan but i would love to see him direct himself as an actor okay
33:50very quietly listening to both of us gush over it so i don't know what's running on his mind
33:55but let me attempt let me attempt to understand that dilip charyan is this a case study in understanding
34:03how to answer criticism chaos and controversy in b-town is this the case study you know i think
34:13it's a case study of three things one that a star kid how an epo he may be made out to be isn't
34:21necessarily going to walk in the same boots as his father or mother that's one it's a case study that
34:28uh the ever savvy gauri and sharuk recognize that the world of being director actually is a less insane
34:40world in some ways than the roller coaster ride that any star must go through so in a sense they've
34:48moved him one rung up that ladder and the reference to the sky is actually a sly reference to that okay
34:57that the stars may come and go but hey there's the firmament above and the firmament is the director
35:05the third thing is what you said and what a lot of people have alluded to including a recent uh
35:12interview by a very well-regarded lawyer uh talking about the whole case and this in some senses sets
35:21that uh that matter to rest as it were the khans have spoken that's the last word
35:27and let's move ahead so there's always bollywood and i think that the resounding theme of bringing
35:36together this star cast which could not actually come together for almost anyone for any price is only
35:44possible because of what the khans represent and i think the point about gauri and the bringing up
35:53of the sun is very important there is the uh there is the sharuk who we some of us know as extraordinarily
36:02gifted and sharp and also has the ability to laugh at himself but this boy in the way he's directed
36:10has actually moved this whole thing ratcheted up a whole i would say a whole cycle you know uh he's done
36:19things which he can afford to do but he would it's actually infinitely more risky for him to do that
36:26because the kind of counter push or the push back would have been enormously more if he had to take
36:33that into consideration the fact that he hasn't more power to the boy and more part with creativity
36:40and creativity is not just as this film shows is not just being on screen but actually making things
36:49happen for the audience and i think in that sense they've done this they've brought the audience
36:55back to center stage because they've pushed all the possible buttons to make sure that the audience
37:01like the two of you responds in the way that they want you to and it's therefore a marketing act of
37:08genius marketing act of genius coming in from dilip cherry and those are heavy words he doesn't give
37:15compliments easy so that's a good one there but kunal i also think this this entire series stood out
37:22because for the first it didn't look like it was a sharuk production the star started a fair etc it didn't
37:30sound sharuk it didn't sound srk it has an aryan mark on it of course there's the backing of course
37:37there's a star of course there is an amir khan discussing two lines vada pao or idli that's all
37:43he does amir khan he's there for a cameo this is what happens this is the this is the sharuk khan power
37:50and this is the sharuk khan you know pulling in all friends in favor but despite that and along with it
37:56there is this aryan khan mark on it right so so you know what you take out all the star appearances
38:03the stores the show is still a blockbuster uh remove all these little vada pao references and
38:09remove remove the the the mini guest appearances uh that all of them have done the walking parts and
38:14all just which they've done as just for fun for sharuk obviously and because they would have seen
38:19aryan grow up in front of them so they would they've done it for him even without them this show
38:25is brilliant because of one other factor which no one is talking about that it is a massy commercial
38:30show it is not trying to be something else it is not trying to be a version of something else it's not
38:39trying to be a netflix kind of a show or an ott kind of a show it is just being a desi commercial show
38:47with desi characters and yes there are some of them who are not rooted and they're the ones you're
38:52laughing at the ones you're connecting with raghav joal's character uh all the other characters
38:58they are the hardcore desi ones and the ones you're laughing at are uh the girl's brother and you know
39:04those those those are the spoofs but the spoofs are not the desi characters that is where i say
39:11aryan is rooted that is where i say i'm i'm so pleasantly happy and surprised to see how rooted he is that
39:17he's understood this and he's laughing at what actually must be his immediate world but it's not
39:23it's clearly not because even characters like sukhi you know the the bodyguard he says so much
39:31you know that that one line that sukhi says where where uh laksh's character says that you know i can't
39:37afford this perfume and the bodyguard just says madam should i pack this for you like not even thinking
39:42because he knows he can just buy anything he wants for madam because he has the card in his hand he has
39:46to pack it it says so much you know these are these are little little nuances that have come in the
39:52show which say so much but like i said the desi commercial hindi cinema factor of it is what has
39:59worked and i hope ott's see that our commercial hindi cinema makers see that because the second big success
40:06of this year is is this after i would say sayara which was again desi and commercial and not trying
40:13to be anything and trying to be modern trying to be this trying to which again had a star kid by the
40:18way so there seems to be there seems to be a new version of nepo kids ones which are taking over power
40:26in nepal and the others who are taking over bollywood there seems to be two parallels of nepo kids which
40:31are really emerging out of this i have last few minutes but kunal very quickly i want to come to you
40:35before i go to dilip yeah as a layman watching it how much you know you are an insider help me
40:41understand how much of the writing is actually aryan's or how much of it is actually the team that
40:47sort of works around red chillies as well you saw some episodes which were written and directed by him
40:53others which are only directed by him according to the credits yeah yeah but let's let's not take away
40:59any credit from aryan because he is the director i've heard from many people who worked on the show
41:05that he is responsible for every grading forget just the writing the color correction everything i've
41:12heard from team members bobby has told me bobby's heard from the technicians uh i called up bobby to
41:19congratulate him we were having a chat about it and even he was saying he said kunal you cannot imagine how
41:25every department is aryan's chop and i think so even it's it's to extract it you know you've got to
41:32extract that work from the writers even if you've not written it yourself you have to extract it
41:37i once asked javed akhtar this that javed uh you know how come your writing is like this in a particular
41:43film and somewhat different in in another he said he said uh uh samane wale ko bhi samaj pehna jay
41:49you know what i'm saying what was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was it was so important
41:54so that is so important the person who's accepting the work approving the work taking it yeah he has to
42:00have that in him so i think let's give full credit to aryan on this one he deserves it i can see it as a
42:06filmmaker i've uh heard it from people who worked on the show so full credit everybody i know binged it
42:13everybody i know could not stop after the end of one episode they had to watch it till the end
42:17dilip charyan let me give you the last word and perhaps this is something that the social media has
42:22always been buzz about do you think with bads of bollywood aryan khan has managed to do what perhaps
42:31abhishek bachchan could not i know it's a tough one to balance out but would you say that this one
42:38came out just right i think you know the the thing that struck me was that nuance is only possible for
42:47those who've been through the process the process always involves trauma torture and long years of
42:56observation and i think that's what has many has struck me as this ott serial has that because the
43:05nuance is what actually if you if you just slap on a whole bunch of stuff however well it's written
43:11however big the names however uh homely the characters you need to have the nuance to make it
43:18sustained beyond one episode and i think the fact that people have binge watched it is a tribute
43:26to the fact that he has choreographed a whole bunch of things that happen behind the screen to make a
43:33product that does not require marketing it just markets itself because of sheer content of power
43:42does not require marketing at all but clearly it's it's a case study like dilip said and like
43:48unal is saying a lot has gone behind it as well but clearly this is i think it's been answered the khan's
43:54have spoken and we will we can only now wait to see what happens with the other khan in the family
44:00because come on we are we are a country obsessed with our film stars so we'll continue to do
44:05you know talk about it and watch them and you know also go on to understand all those hashtags thank
44:10you both dilip cheryn and kunal kohli for joining us on the program today this was fun chat
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