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Cebu City Councilor Winston Pepito joins Beyond the Headlines to share his responsibilities as a public servant, the challenges in local governance, and how the City Council is addressing key issues to improve the lives of Cebuanos.
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01:29Today, we take a closer look at the stories shaping our communities and our future, going past the surface and into the context, the impact and the conversations that matter.
01:43In every episode, we move past what's trending and examine what the headlines truly mean for everyday Filipinos.
01:51I'm Mildred Galarpe.
01:53And I'm DJ Moises.
01:55Today on Beyond the Headlines, we sit down with Cebu City Councilor Winston Pipito to discuss his work in the City Council and the responsibilities that come with serving the people of Cebu City.
02:07We will also hear Councilor Pipito's insights on the challenges and opportunities in local governance and how the Council is addressing key issues to improve the lives of Cebu City residents.
02:19Welcome?
02:23Welcome, Councilor.
02:25Welcome to Beyond the Headlines.
02:28Thank you for inviting me.
02:29Thank you for having me.
02:29Okay.
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02:33Okay.
02:34So, we know that you also started in the barangay space before your current role as City Councilor of Cebu City.
02:46So, how's the experience so far from Barangay Hall to City Hall?
02:52I was in the executive.
02:59So, there is a council.
03:02So, there's some kind of frustration.
03:07When I was in the barangay captain, I was able to implement some of the things that I can do with.
03:12The executive man.
03:13The executive man.
03:13So, I missed that time.
03:16And then, I have to work with my colleagues to make sure that they can propose their proposals.
03:21And then, you have to work with the mayor and the vice mayor and everybody there.
03:25Department heads.
03:26So, it's very, very difficult.
03:29But, anyway, we'll have challenges.
03:31But, that's what makes life interesting.
03:34And I have challenges.
03:35And we have to continue what we have to do.
03:37Okay.
03:37So, it's just like the challenge is you are to sell the idea.
03:45To other colleagues that would support your proposals.
03:49Something in Anna, no?
03:50Yes.
03:50So, that's part of the challenge.
03:52And then, of course, once the idea is okay, then the implementation of the executive department.
04:00So, aside from this one, Conspa, because these are day-to-day realities, no?
04:06That's also aligned to your new role at the city council.
04:12So, I'm curious.
04:13Because, for example, people like me go inside the city council.
04:16What I see is just the surface, no?
04:18But now, you get to see the behind the scenes, no?
04:21Are there any interesting or surprises that you also are seeing better now?
04:26That you can see what's behind the facade?
04:28So, instead of kind of do it, which is executive role,
04:57the idea is, can we do this?
05:00Yes.
05:00Murag na-feel na ko iya ang frustration kay.
05:04Anad siya sa kapitan ka nga.
05:07Oh, karoon, problema ang drainage.
05:09Manglimpyo ta sa drainage.
05:11Limpyo din sa drainage.
05:12Kung naka sa legislative mag-pass ka o resolution asking the mayor.
05:16You have to beg for it.
05:17Yeah.
05:18Can you please clean the drainage?
05:20Clean the drainage.
05:21Is this the proper way of cleaning the drainage?
05:25Nagbaha na dito po.
05:27Nag-nequest pa ka nga.
05:29For the executive nga.
05:30To look into it.
05:32To solve the problem.
05:33So, frustrating kay.
05:35Yeah.
05:36You started implementing things.
05:38So, so far as a newbie counselor, who are the leaders or the people who you are also seeking for guidance
05:49for now that you are still transitioning or new to this role?
05:55Ang kanay sa amuang, sa council ka ron kay, sa ako ang part, morag feeling na ko nagkahiusara jodmi.
06:02Kay pag, after the election, we decided nga sa amung group, nga, to support the agenda of the mayor.
06:09Kaya na makaayor lang sa atong syudad.
06:11So, wala kayo kung nagka problema sa ako mga kaoban.
06:14Open kayo na aming regular meetings.
06:17So, everybody's just helping everybody.
06:20Naman na, nahitabo ka ron.
06:21So, when you, when you said earlier nga katong ang challenge of selling an idea,
06:29na, kanang imang proposals ba?
06:31I wanted to know how did, what transpired when you proposed,
06:36when you co-authored the Integrated City Digital Services Ordinance.
06:41Where is it now?
06:42Karuna na siya for second reading.
06:45So, niagina siya sa Committee on Laws, no?
06:47No, no.
06:48Committee on Budget and Finance.
06:50Budget and Finance.
06:51So, what convinced you, Cons, no, to pursue digital transformation as your primary advocacy?
07:01Okay, in my experience,
07:04dako yung tabang ang technology para ma-improve ang atong pagkatapagong mga services.
07:10Sa sinso una pa, kanak na ako yung mga frustration, wala pa ako sa public service.
07:14Ma-frustrated kung nga I have to apply for leave sa work para lang mo avail sa mga services sa government.
07:19And then, ma-ad to pa ka sa barangay hall or sa city hall na lagyo kayo, magpainit pa ka, you go through all this trouble sa traffic.
07:30Napay rest sa emong safety, so...
07:33So, muna nga, mo sa tos na-himon akong number one, diyon, nga priority yung na-himok kong barangay, Captain.
07:40So, few months pa lang na naglingkod ko, kabalaman ko nga wala yung resources ang barangay to implement such thing.
07:48Muna nga, personally, ako di yung nagbuhat dyan sa system para lang ma-implement sa among barangay.
07:52Kung saan nga system, GONS?
07:54Basically, it's a mobile and web application.
07:59Tanan nga services sa government na exposed ito sa mga tao na pwede nila ma-avail online, no?
08:05Using their phone or...
08:07Like, kanang barangay clearance.
08:08Yeah, everything.
08:09Mga complaints, barangay clearance, certifications.
08:13Halos tanan dyan nga servisyo.
08:16In the barangay...
08:18Sa katotong sa barangay, Captain, ako.
08:19Pero ang... what made it very unique, aside from...
08:23Gipapinidot nato atong paghatag-servisyo, kaya online na mantanan.
08:26So, while tanaw-tanaw sila silang TV, pwede po sila makarequest o clearance.
08:32Ang unique sa among barangay, kaya...
08:36Not only that, gipapas-pas na to, ato po dyong gideliver ang...
08:41Like, ang clearance sa imuhang panimalay.
08:43So, naana kasi...
08:45Do they have to pay for extra for that?
08:47During my time, kaya free mantanan.
08:48Okay.
08:49Free tanan, so wala yung problema.
08:51So, pag-request nila sa ilangang phone, after a while, naana mag-tok-tok silang panimalay nga,
08:59Ma'am, here's your requested barangay clearance.
09:02So, it's kind of very unique.
09:03I don't think na-implement na sa Bisaga Asa, Dresa.
09:05Probably not even in other countries.
09:08I think, kanang, no, nindot na siyang mag-request ka o sa City Hall, kanang, I don't mind paying kaysa ma-absent ko sa work.
09:19Sure, true.
09:20Yeah, kaysa ma-absent ka sa work.
09:22And sa hassle nga, you'll be pushed from one office to the other.
09:26Kung, for example, bayad ka real property tax or business permit, kanang, sometimes there's a lack of process flow where to go, how to start, what step.
09:38So, with, sugod lang gilunta ka o apply online or magpabook, bisag booking lang for an appointment, parang atunin mo.
09:45Your priority number.
09:46Parang atunin mo, kanang, ikaw na ba ang iserve?
09:49Baka nang maglinya ka nga, uy, ugmat na kayo, nag-cut off na ka.
09:54Yes.
09:55Diba?
09:55Correct, correct.
09:56Naaman na ang gaya, tayo na pag-aboy dito ng experience mo na nga, if na iuban nga, need sila o physical appearance.
10:01Kaya naamay mga clearances o certifications ka need sila o physical appearance.
10:05So, pwede na gihapos sila maka-apply in advance.
10:08Para pag-abot nila dito sa, like, sa City Hall o Barangay Hall, all you gotta do is just answer some questions and then just grab your clearance.
10:16Kaya naanin, they may be pay if na yung mga payments na mayroon.
10:20So, can you tell us, Kons, more details, okay, this is also one ordinance that I'm excited about, the ordinance that you co-authored, which is Integrated City Digital Services.
10:33Can you tell us more about what the coverage of this ordinance?
10:37Ang akong ge-envision aning ordinance is totally transform doon sa tanang services sa itong city nga ma-online na siya, accessible online.
10:48And then, aside from that, I would like to use the AI-capable system.
10:57Mostly, the government websites, like, where do they find websites?
11:02You can apply for things.
11:04Downloadable forms.
11:06It's very difficult to navigate through all the links.
11:10They can use the subpages.
11:12So, you almost need a training to use the website.
11:16So, first of all, I want to apply for a senior citizen, be included in the senior citizens in our city.
11:35And then, the AI is, it's just like, okay, I have the form here.
11:39What are the details? What are your personal details? Give me your personal details.
11:43That's why I want to fill up the form for you.
11:45So, what you have to do is just print the form.
11:48Submit.
11:49For personal appearance.
11:50For personal appearance, yes.
11:52So, you can only add to the city hall for personal appearance.
11:55If you have the form here, you have to sign.
11:57And if you have to apply for your personal appearance.
12:00For personal appearance, for personal appearance, it's an option there.
12:05It might be the same option for people, that they must be selected from the delivery.
12:13If they choose the provider, move it, max-sim, grab or whatever.
12:17This option is to pick up or deliver.
12:20deliver deliver deliver on shop with you.
12:35I know it's gonna take time for this to realize their ordinance we have to look for budget and things.
12:40But I know now, I know not around okay well on waiting for this to happen maybe I'll I'll just do some something myself.
12:50I'll seek for approval to our mayor.
12:54Maybe I can do some programming on my own.
12:57Make it online.
12:58For example, the Cedula.
12:59I have a Cedula app or something.
13:04People can apply to Cedula.
13:08And then I can deliver to Ilaha.
13:10So if I have two drivers,
13:13if I have two drivers,
13:14then I can choose the options to deliver.
13:19So I think that's where I can start
13:24and then slowly expand.
13:26That's why it's proof of concept.
13:28It's important.
13:30And that's even one area,
13:33especially with open AI technology,
13:38as long as the information supposedly is digitized,
13:43AI can actually do the talking.
13:45So I'm glad there's somebody in the City Hall
13:48who is actually advocating for it.
13:50Because it's not really impossible.
13:52Yeah.
13:53If you go to banks,
13:55they're the avatar,
13:57like Union Bank for example,
14:00Rafa,
14:01who are going to assist you.
14:02So I think it's not impossible for City Hall to do that.
14:07It's not impossible for City Hall to do that.
14:09It's not impossible.
14:10So I'm glad that this is being advanced.
14:11I'm sorry, AI is more advanced.
14:12That's why it's more advanced.
14:13That's why it's more advanced.
14:14That's why it's more advanced.
14:15That's why it's more advanced.
14:16It's more advanced than AI.
14:17So for some of you,
14:20if you need information in the city,
14:22like ordinances,
14:23or if it's centralized on the server,
14:25you can see it on the AI.
14:27So it's easy to have the information.
14:29You don't have to do a lot of searching.
14:31And even to,
14:32even to councillors
14:33who can pass legislation,
14:35for example,
14:37for all you know,
14:38who can pass the ordinance,
14:40who can only implement it.
14:42Or they're contradicting each other.
14:44Or really having a hard time.
14:46Yeah.
14:47It's the same thing.
14:48Because of the limitation,
14:51I think,
14:52the other people in the database,
14:55but it's the same thing.
14:56It's the same thing in the archive.
14:59This is a very,
15:00I think,
15:01this is a very noble project.
15:02Yeah.
15:03Kung funding ang problema,
15:04I think,
15:05si Mayor Archival nindo,
15:06sigo nitagaan na itong priority
15:08kaysa,
15:09magsigitang support
15:10ng mga flood control nga Huayklaro.
15:12I mean,
15:13yeah, I know it's needed,
15:14but this one,
15:15it's the entire residence
15:17of Cebu City.
15:18Who will benefit from this?
15:20Can you cite cons?
15:22Although, nalang ko yung kanyang bias
15:24on what transaction it should be.
15:26Declaration, disclaimer.
15:27Okay.
15:28Can you cite any kanyang example
15:30of a transaction
15:31that with this technology
15:34must speed up siya
15:35to a certain percentage lang?
15:39Ako yung bias actually.
15:41Do you want me to ask about it?
15:43Okay.
15:44Yeah, like,
15:45katong sidula,
15:46that's something that can be done easily.
15:47Oh.
15:48Unsa man ni siya, Con?
15:49Mga business.
15:50That's the one.
15:51That's where my bias is.
15:52Unsa man ni siya,
15:53web or app?
15:55Web application and mobile app.
15:56Okay.
15:57So, mojin na siya itong.
15:58Yes.
15:59Anything,
16:00any platform nga.
16:01So, do ka naman mga open source ka ron
16:02na, can, can,
16:03if ang imong problema is ang developer
16:05or,
16:06I don't think, in a sense,
16:07sigur kamahal ang developer cons
16:09na itin itaka-afford.
16:10We can either hire internally
16:12or,
16:13pwede na ito i-outsource ang development.
16:15Pero ang nais sa hiring internally,
16:17kayo nakakaya control sa imo ang developers.
16:19Ika-inaanim mo.
16:20Ika-inaanim mo.
16:21And I know of ka na,
16:22another tier
16:23that's also working with open AI
16:26that saves,
16:27that will save you from the developer cost.
16:30Yeah.
16:31This is a big system eh.
16:34Dapat integrated mo na siya.
16:35Yes.
16:36Dapat ang sisiitiyang traffic
16:38connected po sa sa same ranga system.
16:40Ang atong sa health na ito.
16:42Connected na sila para.
16:43So,
16:44motong-motong na i-asset.
16:45It's because,
16:46pero may mga guna ibalik balik ang theme
16:48about the long application
16:49sa business permit.
16:50So, that's where my bias is, no?
16:52So, Moreg.
16:53I think anybody nga magnegosyo.
16:55We want it nga makat.
16:57Kaya mo lagi na.
16:58Kung long ang imong process,
16:59dagan sa kaghatagan.
17:02It's not sisiitiyang mong hatagan,
17:04but taas ang process,
17:05dagan ang system to corruption.
17:08Correct.
17:09And that's what we want.
17:10There's already an outrage
17:13for corruption.
17:14So, kanis siya,
17:15usan niya na kong solusyon
17:16na kanang makakat sa corruption.
17:20But,
17:21nasan ni siya'y gamayin ba?
17:23Displacement pong punis tao.
17:25So, unsan po itong,
17:26how do we address this?
17:28Okay.
17:29I'm sure katong ang trabaho,
17:30City Hall,
17:31tiktak-tak.
17:32Matumuwagi ito siya.
17:33Diba?
17:34Tingdawad's papel.
17:35Muwagi ito siya.
17:36Or sedula.
17:37Magamay na siguro ang work.
17:39Pero, usually,
17:40ang displacement is
17:41ma-assign na ka sa lying work.
17:43For example,
17:44if naa kay,
17:45tungod kay kulang sa budget
17:46ang City Hall,
17:47ganahan on ta siya
17:48mag-add o additional workers
17:49para mas maka sa lying department
17:52to do some other work na
17:54delete niyong ta niyong kaya ka
17:55wala ka budget ka ron.
17:56Karon, pwede niyong sila
17:57matransfer to yung existing
17:58re-deploy ito.
17:59So, mas ma-improve.
18:00Re-alignment.
18:01So, mas ma-improve
18:02mong services.
18:03Kaya,
18:04ang din yung makaya,
18:05oh, I wish na ako'y
18:06additional ataw
18:07para ma-accomplish na mo.
18:09I think we're
18:10top of mind lang
18:11because the back-end
18:12is already digital.
18:14So, that means
18:15ng City Hall can do
18:16more customer service
18:17type of work.
18:19So, instead nga,
18:20instead nga,
18:21relationship kind of work.
18:22Instead nga,
18:23ang daghan sa itong tao,
18:24nagsigig,
18:25stapler, everything,
18:26the manual things
18:27of doing.
18:28Some of them gisapot, no?
18:29Okay.
18:30Nugay kay karifil up sa form.
18:31Diba?
18:32So, karon,
18:33the back-end is already handled.
18:34So, they can be more friendly.
18:35Like, hello,
18:36good afternoon,
18:37what can I do for you?
18:38No, other,
18:39but, you know na,
18:40maybe other,
18:41other offices,
18:42you're gonna need good
18:43or manpower ba?
18:45So,
18:46dili saktotod,
18:47parayong muna siyas,
18:48I think,
18:49in other,
18:50in other industries.
18:51Like,
18:52AI is not meant
18:54to replace
18:55the,
18:56the human manpower.
18:57Grace opportunity.
18:58Yeah.
18:59It's an aid.
19:00But,
19:01you will be replaced
19:02by somebody who knows
19:03how to use the tool.
19:04Yeah.
19:05And, and, and,
19:06I agree with that.
19:07And, in the same manner also,
19:08nga nitransition ang world
19:09from typewriter to computer.
19:11Daghahan man sang nahadlok at ito.
19:13Because, there were a lot of,
19:14kwan nahadlok na,
19:15they will be displaced.
19:16But, the world moved forward.
19:18It created more opportunities.
19:19Diba?
19:20I mean,
19:21tanawa ito ba nga sa San Carlos?
19:22Ngaan pa yung typewriter niya?
19:23Uy,
19:24kaya ito nang dawaton,
19:25nga naay mga tao,
19:26nga naay ganahang,
19:27ngaay mga transaksyon
19:28nga ipahahatag sa,
19:30nga wala eh,
19:31dili ka malo.
19:32So, balik sila sa typewriter.
19:33But, I mean,
19:35it's not nga,
19:36mupada yun ta.
19:37But, yeah,
19:38it creates opportunity.
19:39Opportunities.
19:40It's up to you,
19:41unsao ni mo,
19:42pag-grab ang opportunity.
19:43Upskill yourself.
19:44To stay relevant.
19:45Yes.
19:46Mogid na.
19:47Sige.
19:48Naka madunggan sa ubahan nga masulti nga,
19:49katong mga areas nga like,
19:51walay internet.
19:53Ati gamay lang siguro,
19:54kaya area nga walay internet.
19:56But then,
19:57wala manimutang tanga nga,
19:58ang old nga,
19:59traditionally.
20:00Nga mangyapon.
20:01It's an option man lang niya.
20:02Maybe,
20:03mahihin mo nang primary nga option.
20:04Yes.
20:05Pero, you still have access to the city hall.
20:06No.
20:07But then,
20:08if naa ka sa bukid,
20:09if wala ka internet,
20:10instead of going to the city hall,
20:11then,
20:12matato lang ka sa ka ng taas ng sityo,
20:14o sa sising ng sityo nga na internet.
20:15Or internet cafe.
20:16Internet cafe.
20:17Or,
20:18maybe sa barangay hall ninyo na internet ito.
20:20Or, I'm sure,
20:21there's gotta be a place there
20:22na nga naka sila yung access internet.
20:23Which is closer to you,
20:24compared to going to the city hall.
20:26Siguro,
20:27hindi na ito malalis nga.
20:29Napag yun siguro yung lugar nga yung internet.
20:31Pero,
20:32pilan nalang gini sila.
20:33Gamay nalang yun yung population.
20:34I-compare ni mo.
20:35Majority.
20:36Majority.
20:37Karoon,
20:38bisag,
20:39unsa pa na kalamiin mong restaurant,
20:41DJ,
20:42wakay internet,
20:43wakay lamiin.
20:44Kaya dili man kung maka Instagram.
20:46Diba?
20:47So,
20:48dili siya something,
20:49ang connectivity karoon,
20:50is not something na,
20:51kanang,
20:52optional.
20:53It can be,
20:54but it's a must.
20:55It's a must.
20:56Yeah.
20:57Koan lang cons,
20:58because from experience also,
21:00one of the reasons why people,
21:03and I'm referring to those inside the city hall,
21:06are resistant to change.
21:08Aside from that is what will happen to me.
21:11The other question also is,
21:13how can I be enabled,
21:15for me to be able to be the person,
21:18the upskilling.
21:19Who can use technology.
21:22Kung sa may mga masagyast po di mga programs
21:24to address that question.
21:26Kinama yung gusto.
21:27But they just don't know,
21:29kanang,
21:30how they can be upskilled.
21:32That can be addressed through training.
21:35Training, Rajud.
21:37Wana yung matabang nato sa mga tao.
21:38And then,
21:39like I said,
21:40may re-alignment
21:41sa mga trabaho nila.
21:42So...
21:43Okay.
21:44The reason that I just raised that,
21:45it's because I'm also hoping that,
21:46part of the implementation of the ordinance,
21:49is also the training.
21:50Para ma-address ang fear.
21:52Some people,
21:53with experience with technology,
21:54some people,
21:55mohingo naman silang,
21:56I don't like it.
21:57But the truth is,
21:58ang underlying,
21:59is I'm afraid,
22:00that I will not be able to be capable to use it.
22:03Munang masuko.
22:04Yeah, akong akong dad before.
22:06Murug ni Ana,
22:07that's impossible for him to use,
22:08like Facebook.
22:09Correct.
22:10Seniors na sila.
22:11So,
22:13we haven't tried using cellphone before.
22:14So,
22:15but then,
22:16pag-try nila,
22:17master na kayo.
22:18Best na kayo mo comment, no?
22:20Best commenter,
22:21auto-liker.
22:22Diba?
22:23But it's true,
22:24the technology man,
22:25allows you to connect friends,
22:27you missed how many years ago.
22:29So,
22:30it actually brings people together.
22:33People together.
22:34So,
22:35Thank you for,
22:36last one now.
22:37bringing that up.
22:38Okay,
22:39some people would say,
22:40social media,
22:41or technology,
22:42is the one creating the wedge for people to build relationships.
22:45Which is also true.
22:46But I agree with that.
22:47Depending on the use of technology.
22:49Because technology can also bring people together.
22:52Technology was built for the good of humanity.
22:55But,
22:56hindi mo mali ka yan.
22:57Yan ang yung mga tao nga.
22:58Best good to twist it.
23:00So,
23:01kanya na agin.
23:02Actually,
23:03it's up to us how to use technology.
23:04It's there for us to use.
23:06Kung gamiton ba ni mo sa tinurong,
23:08o gamiton ba ni mo sa inamaw.
23:11Like,
23:12elections like for example,
23:13ang technology,
23:14tinuray ka ganito.
23:16Imo git yung magamit.
23:18Para anto ka mo,
23:19pakita,
23:20i-show on sa,
23:21this is my agenda and everything.
23:23Kaya mo manai mong pag-pag-pagya sa mga tao.
23:26But,
23:27there are also people who use the technology.
23:29For malicious intent.
23:30For malicious intent.
23:31Hala, away yun ka nitong turo.
23:32I-bash ka nitong turo.
23:33But,
23:34you know,
23:35we cannot stop.
23:36That's part of democracy.
23:37Pero mo lang na itong bantayan.
23:39Kita nga publiko.
23:40Kita labong magbinanta yun.
23:42And be wary nga,
23:43kanin-kanin nga na,
23:45at i-click ni mo,
23:46wag kayo'y photo,
23:47wag kayo'y post.
23:48Yan nga nung,
23:49sabak kayo ni siya.
23:50So,
23:51kayo ba wong nag-inita on sana?
23:52So,
23:53but I agree yun.
23:54Kanang,
23:55itong senior citizens,
23:56at first,
23:57sila gito'y resistant sa paggamit sa telepono.
24:00Karon,
24:01sus,
24:02kumpiyansa ka.
24:04O, wala'y internet.
24:05Na,
24:06di kita matuhayan eh.
24:07Paludi ko.
24:09Paludi ko.
24:10Di ka kita sa picture,
24:12sa photo,
24:13di ka kita sa picture,
24:14DJ.
24:15So,
24:16kanat siya.
24:17Kanat lang siya nga,
24:18adaption ba?
24:19So,
24:20and then,
24:21if they're really having problems with using the technology,
24:23pwede mo sila paka,
24:24pwede mo sila paka,
24:25pwede mo silang apo, silang anak,
24:26silang silingan nga.
24:27Dah, di mo kabaloan kayo,
24:29pwede kayo mag-apply sa anak,
24:30whatever.
24:31It's true.
24:32So,
24:33we cannot stop progress,
24:34with just some few issues ba?
24:37Or,
24:38kanang,
24:39let's not rule,
24:40make the exception,
24:41determine the rule.
24:42Yeah.
24:43Kanat bang,
24:44kanang ang mindset nga,
24:45di taan na kay,
24:46daghan ka di ka ba,
24:47oh,
24:48we adapt.
24:49Because,
24:50maun naman na siya ang,
24:51ang trend karun.
24:52Future, yeah.
24:53Yung maun na siya ang,
24:54daghan siya plus,
24:56kaysa negative.
24:57Correct.
24:58So, I think we go for,
24:59ano.
25:00Advancement.
25:01Yes.
25:02Kanan lang lagi,
25:03example lang lagi,
25:04ang ease of doing business using technology.
25:07Kanan mo,
25:08apply ka business permit.
25:09Kanan bang,
25:10maayon taig,
25:11add to na ko,
25:12either,
25:13igon nalang kumubayad,
25:14or igon nalang kumuda,
25:15o additional documents na,
25:16maun ni siya,
25:17additional requirement,
25:18kaya,
25:20wala ka nang,
25:21questionable,
25:22yung mong isabit nito ba?
25:23So, kinala lang pa,
25:24sabi itong kag-certified,
25:25something, everything,
25:26or, maybe,
25:27na ay challenge sa pag-take sa picture,
25:28diliklaro,
25:29so, kinala lang ka sa physical copy.
25:30Sure.
25:31But, that is,
25:32gamay na lang yung,
25:33na compare ni mo,
25:34you spend two to three days,
25:35just to have your business permit renewed.
25:38Or, even just to make sure
25:40that the documents are complete.
25:41Technology can actually check.
25:43And, mo agree sa katong imong cons,
25:45nga i-integrate siya.
25:46Oh.
25:48They will talk to each other?
25:49Yes.
25:51Kanang sa city,
25:53kanang,
25:55kao ba?
25:57Baka.
25:58No, no,
25:59not that cow.
26:00Kanang,
26:01mo appreciate bitaw sa properties,
26:03city,
26:04what sagay nga?
26:05Assessor.
26:06Oh.
26:07Ang city assessor,
26:08ang treasurer,
26:09kinangla na sila mag-integrate.
26:11Kaya,
26:12they're talking of,
26:13the same,
26:14so,
26:15hindi siya something ha,
26:16lagi nag-automated rin.
26:17Ma-overlap ilang transactions.
26:18Nag-automated rin rin,
26:19pero,
26:20igbalihin mo si siya siya,
26:21balik ka sa papel.
26:22Kanang,
26:23we're doing,
26:24naligo naman ka,
26:25panabo na lang.
26:26Kanang,
26:27make us it,
26:28all nalanggit banya.
26:29Of all this,
26:30yung very unconcern,
26:32is ang protection sa data.
26:34Are we protecting the current data
26:36that we have?
26:37Do we have backup?
26:39Are we doing redundancies?
26:41Kay,
26:42kanang,
26:43dili man sa magic,
26:44ang technology na,
26:46na siya'y answer to everything.
26:48Unless,
26:49nag-duhat,
26:50nag-duhat sa kasi mong own security.
26:51Hmm.
26:52Currently,
26:53on sa'y status,
26:54data sa city hall?
26:56Um,
26:57latest update na to,
26:58na,
26:59mga database na backup na.
27:01So,
27:02naana sa'y daily backup
27:03sa itong database.
27:04Okay.
27:05So,
27:06just in case na yung mga,
27:07ah,
27:08outages,
27:09sa mga,
27:10or sa hardware failure na na.
27:11So, maka restore ta,
27:12sa ito ang mga,
27:13sa itong mga,
27:14sa itong mga files.
27:15And then,
27:16most of the source codes,
27:18naanapun,
27:19naanapun takuan,
27:20wala pala nang validate
27:21if kato ba nga mga,
27:22copy working,
27:23bayuti sila,
27:24or what,
27:25I don't know.
27:26Pero at least,
27:27naana tay,
27:28ah,
27:29wala na itong kitats na lang,
27:30kaya wala dyan ma,
27:31ma-turn over,
27:32ma-resolve.
27:33Pero ang ato,
27:34aning plan is,
27:35ah,
27:36I think that's the plan
27:37of the mirror also nga,
27:38maghimu yun taog ka na,
27:40build from scratch na lang.
27:42Anyway,
27:43need man yun ta,
27:44kaya,
27:45ang uban na na,
27:46like,
27:47wapa ko na tao na,
27:48so,
27:49need man yun taog yun nga system.
27:50And then,
27:51since mag-build naman yun nga system,
27:52timely na po niya to ang ordinance,
27:53kaya para,
27:54dito na lang i-base ba,
27:55sa technology nga,
27:56on say,
27:57current nga technology,
27:58ginagamit ka ron.
27:59technology nga magsturya,
28:00they can talk to each other,
28:02di ba?
28:03I-automate as much as possible,
28:04tanan.
28:05And then,
28:06because of the invent of the AI nga,
28:07ang AI makasabot na bisag-bisaya.
28:09So,
28:10ang atong tao,
28:11di na kaya na mag-click-click pa,
28:12mag-i-sturya na lang sa AI nga,
28:13I want kaya na,
28:14to have a business clearance,
28:15so mo ni ang process ni mo,
28:17I already prepared the forms for you.
28:19You know,
28:20di not know ka na,
28:21for example,
28:22nanadiri ang AI,
28:23may ingaw na lang ko na rin nga,
28:24saan ako pag-renew,
28:26o pag-lookat,
28:27mag-i-sturya na lang,
28:29o kulang pa ka,
28:30you go to the,
28:31department,
28:32kaya mo ni kuwang ni mo,
28:33money yung kulang ni mo.
28:34So mo itong ni-suggest ko about,
28:36katong open AI,
28:37or any similar technology,
28:38kaya mo mo hudag indoors,
28:40but,
28:41but,
28:42but that's the one,
28:44it makes it conversational naman,
28:45rather than,
28:46kanang chatbots lang na,
28:47click-click-click.
28:48No,
28:49limited among choices.
28:50Limited among choices.
28:51If,
28:52i-mong choice,
28:53if i-mong problema,
28:54wak na-fall dito,
28:55like,
28:56manawag,
28:57i-mong tawag,
28:58wak ay pang call,
28:59kung saan na lang,
29:00diba so,
29:01that ends,
29:02na,
29:03you lost the opportunity of engaging your public.
29:06Correct.
29:07looking forward,
29:08you go on it.
29:09I also am.
29:10Yes.
29:11Sige,
29:12kata lang questions na mo,
29:13about traffic.
29:14And we also know that,
29:15ang city government,
29:17Yes.
29:18is already deploying,
29:19kanang CCTVs,
29:21even AI,
29:22sa traffic light na to.
29:24Kanang,
29:25are there any,
29:27legislation,
29:28that you have in mind,
29:30that could further aid its implementation?
29:34Yeah.
29:35Um,
29:36traffic is,
29:37probably,
29:38maju kesa atu akarun.
29:39Yeah,
29:40even until now.
29:41Uh,
29:42so,
29:43ako naamo ko sa,
29:44committee on transportation.
29:45And,
29:46I just,
29:47I found out,
29:48mag-start na ko nga,
29:49uy,
29:50marumog marumani,
29:51pinaka-resulting ngayling,
29:52committee.
29:53How do you solve,
29:54even sa mga personal countries,
29:55nagya po sa problem sa traffic.
29:57And,
29:58grabe ba yung tawa mo mag-demand,
29:59mag-result.
30:00And then,
30:01ang pag-solvet sa traffic,
30:02dili ma na siya overnight.
30:03It will take time.
30:04So,
30:05um,
30:06na may dagang approach sa pag-solvet sa traffic,
30:08sa infrastructure.
30:09Um,
30:10pero na yung mga things nga,
30:11mabuhat ni mo dahon,
30:13karun,
30:14nga wala,
30:15hindi ka mag-wait sa kanang,
30:16like,
30:17five-year na plan for infrastructure.
30:19So,
30:20what about,
30:21ah, sige.
30:22Kanang sa,
30:23yeah,
30:24kanang mga policies.
30:25So,
30:26that's why,
30:27I post for the INCAP,
30:28kaning,
30:29non-contact apprehension policy.
30:31Um,
30:32pero karun,
30:33tungog ka pa na apay TRO,
30:35ugi kan sa Supreme Court,
30:37against sa kaning INCAP,
30:39sa implementation.
30:40I-implement pa gundi sa Manila.
30:41Ang kitagaan lang,
30:42ugi kanang,
30:43kung karun nga,
30:44to implement datang MMDA.
30:45So,
30:46outside MMDA,
30:47ah,
30:48dili pata maka implement.
30:49Not,
30:50non ang LGU.
30:51Oo, wala.
30:52Pero if for example,
30:53si LG,
30:54si,
30:55to business justice,
30:56alagag sa mga ma'ya nit,
30:57ag sa mga individual.
31:02It really is now a need for a Metro Cebu,
31:03coordinating,
31:04lahat off,
31:05may kho 말씀드� calculated as a truly
31:06problem as not just traffic.
31:07Ak perfil na dia ang baha.
31:08In theigning left,
31:09ma'ya niya.
31:10Ganttal Tei break lightning.
31:11peligro,
31:12around neighboring LGU sport about it.
31:14That's one of the things
31:16nga ako pag gina-push.
31:18We can call it like MCDA,
31:20Trusibo Development Authority.
31:22We want politicians to be out of the picture
31:24sa kaning pagdisiplina.
31:26Ang mga politikong mong gawin,
31:28ma-hadlock sila o disiplina,
31:29mawag tangan sila votes.
31:30Mo-backlash.
31:31Ma-hadlock sa backlash.
31:31So, muna nga,
31:34if ganahang ka mahimok
31:36ang effective na politicians,
31:37you have to be willing to
31:38lose the next election.
31:40If ma-hadlock ka gumapail
31:41sa next election,
31:42no-adju kayo may buhat kayo.
31:43You avoid the issue,
31:44that will upset, no?
31:46Even if it's a necessary thing to do.
31:48Misang importante siya,
31:49di yung kamo-touch kay Kwayawan
31:50mga kagaday, kabutaran.
31:51Yes, it's very true.
31:52Very clear example na na
31:54ang mga tricycles na tali sa ICT.
31:56So, ang in-cap nga,
31:57katong,
31:58actually, like last month,
31:59ato man na siyang na-open nga issue
32:00and then,
32:01karabi yun ang feedback sa mga tao,
32:03baka nang wala sila na happy ba?
32:05Kay, nga,
32:06naanay,
32:07ganahan silang ang ilang suggestion is,
32:09anong,
32:10instead ng butang camera,
32:11nga nung butang ala niyong
32:12tao dyan nga mubantay.
32:13So, what's the difference?
32:15Mas maayag pagaling camera,
32:16kaya makasave tawag money.
32:17Yes.
32:17Nga, automated pa,
32:18malikay pa sa corruption.
32:20Correct.
32:20Nga, anong,
32:21ganahan mga kag-like,
32:22actual na person dyan
32:23nga mubantay versus camera?
32:25Because they were,
32:25in their mind,
32:26mag-on,
32:26ang ilang una-una sa in-cap
32:27is pariyo sa Manila,
32:29nga nang naghimu sila
32:29ang dedicated lane
32:30for motorcycles.
32:32Muto ilahang na silang mind,
32:33bang,
32:33wait,
32:34mag-buhat ang dedicated lane
32:35for motorcycles here,
32:37base na pariyo sa Manila,
32:38nga mura,
32:38grabe na kayong,
32:39nagtapok na ang motorcycle.
32:42Dili,
32:42naman,
32:42nasa to,
32:42akay.
32:43Ang atong,
32:43ang in-vision sa Carondiri,
32:44at least,
32:46atong,
32:46yun na una premiere,
32:47isa ka na sa mga intersections.
32:48Correct.
32:48Nga na na mga critical choke points.
32:51Nga butangan dyan,
32:51o ka nang automated nga,
32:53kung ang galing ka,
32:53makarelay sa tawong nga,
32:54mo'y magbantay dyan sa tanan.
32:55And if we look at it,
32:56pag nai dispute na inagbangga,
32:59they would still take pictures.
33:01It's still digital.
33:02Diba?
33:02Or worse mag-sketch.
33:04So,
33:05it would create further congestion traffic na gani,
33:09kung nagbangga sila,
33:10but dugay ang dispute,
33:12so the more it gets worse.
33:14So,
33:14if they need digital copy to address it,
33:17then,
33:17the CCTV can.
33:19So,
33:20I agree.
33:20So,
33:21yeah,
33:21and then sa,
33:21of course,
33:22sa kanilang system,
33:23pwede man ta makapili na,
33:24saun sa atong implement na,
33:26like,
33:26for example,
33:27sa kanilang camera,
33:28kanilang mga violations,
33:29ang pwede.
33:29Correct.
33:30Like,
33:30the red light,
33:31kanilang inana.
33:33Para po safety,
33:33kanilang bayang mga aksidente,
33:34tungod anang beating the red light.
33:36Yeah.
33:37Counter flow.
33:38Kaya,
33:38obvious magidna nga mga violations,
33:40no,
33:41which a camera can capture.
33:42Na-surprise ko nga nga nung,
33:43ang tao mo,
33:44they're like,
33:45they're happy ba,
33:45nasuko sila nga.
33:46Anakunan ako,
33:47madagahan di,
33:48daging mga badlungon rin nga drivers ato.
33:49I think so nga.
33:51Mas maay manggong,
33:52ang tao manggod,
33:53pwede nino mo mahangiyo.
33:54Ipatipaton.
33:55Ma-sorry.
33:56Pwede nino mahangiyo.
33:57Pwede nino mo malipat nga,
33:58na ay natabunan,
34:00hindi ka makita.
34:01But actually,
34:02si camera makita ang gitanan niya.
34:03Di man niyong maingong na.
34:04Sir, sorry,
34:05sasunod,
34:05magbantay na kung di man.
34:06My record is already there.
34:08Recorded man.
34:08Kuha ang manggit ka.
34:09Naan naman sa command center
34:10ang imong record.
34:11So,
34:11listen ka mag,
34:13magbalibad kay,
34:13maingong ka nga.
34:14Ay,
34:15dilip mong ko sa'yo pa to,
34:16ang,
34:16ipangwartahan lang ko sa enforcer,
34:18ano.
34:18Which way may evidence.
34:20Yes,
34:20naman to,
34:20capture naman ka.
34:22Wala bigid ka,
34:22amot lang.
34:23I don't know if na inadakpan nga mo angkon.
34:25Wala bigid.
34:26So,
34:26the camera will set up.
34:27Unless,
34:28unless,
34:28unless,
34:28in the act yun kawa.
34:29Unless mo yung pagkik,
34:30di ni ako.
34:31Humpa na kita na.
34:32To tamay,
34:32mental pa doon yun.
34:33But with cameras,
34:35din na dito ka ka-deny.
34:36Naan naman dito,
34:37recorded naman.
34:38I think,
34:38dako po din siya
34:39ugtabang
34:39for crime solution.
34:41Kahit,
34:42kanang,
34:42inumdum ka atong
34:43na ay
34:44incident before,
34:45katong iyahang na
34:46anuhan ang motor niya,
34:47nagwangwang siya.
34:49It was the CCTVs
34:50nga dool-dool
34:51ang naka-capture.
34:52So,
34:53with that,
34:53buha na,
34:54hinumdum ko,
34:55I forgot the title
34:57of the movie
34:57na akong nakitan.
34:59Na,
35:00ipadadaan siya,
35:01kay nag-violate siya,
35:02over-speeding.
35:04Dito siya na,
35:05kaininon man,
35:06nga kanang,
35:07ang iyahang alibi,
35:08nga kanang,
35:09he was somewhere else.
35:11But because of that ticket,
35:13na-prove nga siya
35:14ang nagpatay.
35:16Imagine ka nang ina na ba?
35:18It's so ordinary.
35:19Ang so ordinary lang,
35:21ang katong iyahang
35:22ticket for a traffic violation.
35:25So,
35:25I think,
35:26masayun,
35:26muda ko atong income
35:28sa violations
35:29kay,
35:30kung makareceive naman ka,
35:32masubject naman ka
35:34sa court proceeding
35:35o i-ignore,
35:36mo violate ka na na
35:37kay recorded to.
35:39Compare nyo mo sa,
35:41ka ng traffic enforcer,
35:45na maga,
35:45instead of actually,
35:47instead of investing
35:48body cams
35:49on enforcers,
35:50dito siya na lang
35:51tas kamera sa traffic.
35:52And also,
35:53most,
35:54if not all,
35:55first world countries,
35:57na-adjun sila
35:57aning mga palisiog
35:59ka na system.
36:00So,
36:00if successful sila,
36:01nga nang di ba
36:02na ito i-adapt the rest
36:02at to us.
36:03Ako lang dito,
36:04if no stopping,
36:05don't stop.
36:06If no lift turn,
36:07don't turn left.
36:09Don't turn left.
36:10So,
36:11ina-adjun nga mga basic
36:12na mga pamalaod ba?
36:13Anong,
36:14makuyawan man ka,
36:15kay ganahanda ka.
36:17By little judaika.
36:18Regular,
36:19by little judaika.
36:20Oh.
36:20Ang,
36:21Kwanaw,
36:22is this,
36:23because we only have,
36:25at least for this term,
36:26three years,
36:26no?
36:27Is this something
36:28that the public
36:29can hope,
36:30no?
36:30That we can already see
36:32within this term?
36:34As long as ma-
36:35ma-lift na ang
36:37TRO sa Supreme Court,
36:38ah,
36:38morag ka na ang limitation.
36:39will pause
36:40really,
36:41really hard
36:41para ma-
36:42I think,
36:43we already have
36:44an initial infrastructure,
36:45right?
36:46Yan,
36:46na-na man tayo,
36:47mga cameras na-install.
36:48Pero,
36:49anyway,
36:50pwede man takka-install
36:51po,
36:51log ka ng mga new cameras.
36:53Na-naagal yung mga
36:54providers diha,
36:56nga,
36:56they will supply everything
36:57walay gasto
36:58isagpiso sa government.
36:59Oh.
37:00So,
37:00karong,
37:01we have viewers man,
37:02cons,
37:02who can actually help
37:04in terms of
37:05lifting this TRO,
37:07no?
37:07Who can help
37:09locally na ito,
37:10din sa Cebu,
37:10to advocate for this?
37:12Well,
37:12as akong understanding,
37:14karong,
37:14number one,
37:16yung naging nangusog,
37:16ang national government.
37:19Ah,
37:19okay.
37:19Like,
37:20sa MMDA,
37:21especially Metro Manila,
37:23kay ganahan diyo sila,
37:24ng Tibok,
37:24dito,
37:24nga dagan ka mga LGO
37:25dito,
37:25Metro Manila.
37:27Na-na sila system in place.
37:29Ready na,
37:29ready to go.
37:30Na-na sila yung command center,
37:31they have the cameras ready.
37:32Walang lang gigamit.
37:35So,
37:36nag-standby,
37:36just waiting for the
37:37lifting of the TRO.
37:39So,
37:39they're lobbying hard for this,
37:40and also the providers,
37:41of course.
37:42So,
37:42I hope also,
37:43if these LGUs
37:44are also doing this
37:45while waiting for the TRO,
37:47I hope Cebu will also
37:48do more of this
37:49in preparation.
37:50Kay,
37:50parader dan na lift na,
37:52di hapata magsugot.
37:53Yeah,
37:53we're starting to
37:54talk to the providers,
37:56that's why,
37:57dito natalakit ang anaay mga providers,
37:59na they're willing
37:59to shoulder everything,
38:01na zero ang cost
38:01sa government.
38:02Why would they do that,
38:06na zero cost?
38:07Okay,
38:08ang ilahaan na,
38:08if na ay mga traffic violations,
38:11dito na sila mo,
38:12mo na ay sharing sa,
38:15sa kuan.
38:15Ah,
38:15mara siya ginana.
38:17So,
38:17they invest for everything,
38:18walay,
38:19walay gasto ang city,
38:19pero,
38:20they're hoping,
38:21sa connection,
38:22sila baway sa collection.
38:23Yeah,
38:23okay.
38:24In,
38:24in legal means.
38:26No,
38:26no,
38:26but it's true.
38:27Maika na,
38:27di ba,
38:28mara si like third party ba?
38:29Correct.
38:29Noong,
38:30rev share,
38:31and,
38:32maa ginagya po nag-council,
38:33di ba na siya,
38:34ang government,
38:35ang mo,
38:36mo,
38:36mo collect,
38:37ang mo,
38:38mo check pod,
38:38sa,
38:39sa violations.
38:40Ang city,
38:41maa po,
38:41ang mo,
38:42maingon nga ako,
38:43kaya dito,
38:43na ako ni,
38:44di na ako ni siya i-approve,
38:46na violation,
38:47kay,
38:47nanghangi on ni siya dari,
38:48or,
38:49na ay contest na niya.
38:50Yes.
38:50Contest kay,
38:52na emergency na ito mo,
38:53na,
38:53na,
38:53over speeding siya na.
38:54So,
38:55pwede na juhuhapong,
38:55normal lang na process.
38:58Recorded lang everything.
38:59Nakalahi lang kay,
39:00ang infrastructure,
39:02di provide na for free,
39:03and then,
39:03ang collection na,
39:04e,
39:04sharing siya dito.
39:05Pero,
39:05ang tanang nga,
39:05nga operation,
39:07ang city,
39:07rinjuhapong tanang,
39:08even,
39:09also,
39:09the approval of the,
39:10the violations.
39:12So,
39:13ganina ni Ion Kakunz,
39:14nga,
39:15the public have,
39:17kind of have a misunderstanding
39:18of NCAP.
39:20Nga,
39:20hadlock nga,
39:21nga nga nga nga nga,
39:22mag-invest ma magka,
39:23nga nga nga nga yung mga tao,
39:24di ba?
39:25Can you clarify,
39:27about NCAP,
39:28and,
39:29like,
39:30it's not everything.
39:31Kanang,
39:32kanang,
39:32unsa lang ang pwede ma,
39:34ano niya.
39:35Yeah,
39:35just replacing people technology.
39:37Maura,
39:37dun.
39:37So,
39:37hindi man takka-afford sa,
39:39tanga atong city,
39:40maka-afford o magbutang,
39:41o traffic enforcer every corner.
39:43That's,
39:43that's going to be very expensive.
39:45Nga,
39:46dilipon siya efficient.
39:47Whereas,
39:47katong,
39:48katong atong,
39:49ang technology,
39:50automatically detect violations if and then you have the recording of the
39:55violation it is not that I tell my screen I'll care and she's a sub-tandani
40:00can I ambulance so so screener
40:09some violations and I think you mentioned about kato mga basic
40:14violations like left turn over speed yes or beating the red light
40:18dangerous and the concept of even and canning deployment so canning Bantal
40:23Road basically it's a discipline zone what also help is that even just the
40:28presence of personnel it's already telling people now we need to follow the
40:35rules because people are watching that's also what the cameras will do it's a
40:41without necessarily deploying people can make holiday man said that
40:44napoy sundays so now you know I'm in my limitations and people in terms of
40:49staffing
40:53singaporean
40:54mo sila na nag nag hatag anak nga technology sa singapore
40:58sa igamit singapore mo ito na istoryahan yesterday so sila hadito wala kaya
41:03makita ng mga taka traffic enforcers but everybody's following the law
41:06so they are being watched
41:09kong kumpiyansa ka
41:11igulin mo sa inyo nag nakikagtiket and you'll really have to pay
41:15mungin akong gi I really wish nga it's within my lifetime
41:19agro nga nga hadlock man sila nagunawa na na di ka nga maviolate ka
41:22I don't understand ba
41:24Fear or objection.
41:27When I analyze, I don't know if I can't get it.
41:31They're just enforcing the law.
41:36Which is supposedly, if you intend to follow it, then why be afraid?
41:42And of course, if there are some shoes,
41:44they can't be in-cap with a shoe or a shoe,
41:48then they can't apply it.
41:50It's selective, it's their junction, their intersection.
41:54You need thousands of cameras.
41:57It's limited to the intersections.
42:01But eventually, the flow is heavy.
42:04Eventually, when it's hard, it's hard to get it.
42:07It's hard to get it.
42:09Crime prevention.
42:11The crime solution.
42:13Even in other countries, like Korea,
42:17it's hard to get it.
42:20It's hard to get it.
42:22It's hard to get it.
42:24I hope that if we have this system,
42:27it's deterrent.
42:29I know it's hard to get it.
42:31Whether it's authority or not,
42:34you have to follow the law.
42:36It's hard to get it.
42:37I should ever walk through it.
42:38I can tell them.
42:39One of the comments on it is,
42:41I'm going to go through the enforcers
42:43and wait for them to take it.
42:44So when they're not going to lose the enforcers,
42:46they can't violate you.
42:48May it go?
42:49Even if they don't.
42:50Yes.
42:51They just get stuck?
42:52They still don't take it?
42:53You don't have to do it?
42:54Yes.
42:55You don't have to do it.
42:56I'll see, you don't have to violate it.
42:58And that's the mentality. I think Mona is the main reason of their objection.
43:03So they have turned out.
43:05So they have the intention to violate.
43:08And then you post on social media that integrity is doing the right thing even if no one is watching.
43:14Why are they doing the game up?
43:16Why do they have a camera?
43:18The double standard.
43:21I think this is something that we need to...
43:24But you need to do the political well.
43:26If you don't like this city,
43:29if you don't like this,
43:31they don't have a discipline in Japan.
43:33The entire Philippines actually,
43:37they have a discipline.
43:39They have a discipline.
43:41Do you see if you drive?
43:44If you see if you open the window,
43:47if you don't have a discipline.
43:49I'm not sure if you don't like it.
43:51I think this is my version of the is
43:54if you take double park,
43:56maybe hazard,
43:57hazard,
43:58if you call their attention
43:59they are still going to get caught.
44:00They say,
44:01I agree.
44:02You are trying to violate.
44:03You are trying to obstruct.
44:05You are trying to do the right thing.
44:07You know what it is.
44:08They are согласed.
44:10But with technology,
44:11you will see they are ever automatically linked to the city.
44:14If you go into the city center,
44:15someone's like how about getting integrated city digital services it's
44:23already kind of under review so can we see this at least slowly being
44:30implemented this term cons I'm really pushing hard for it so hopefully I'm
44:37really hoping with the support of my colleagues they're also excited it's
44:41just that where do we get the money to implement this how much are we ballpark
44:47figure how much do we need for this modernization if in-house yeah maybe
44:53around probably start maybe around like 50 to 80 or something 50 to 80 million
45:02so let's say around 50 and then I mean I mean 10 more programmers can I'm a
45:07contractual yes project-based project-based yes and then anasa kayo
45:11ma-retain yes maintain same system system so mas magamay na ang cost niya sa katong
45:18initial na cost naging actually the AI is even not that expensive available man
45:23siya kaya baw ka 50 80 million bisan pag 100 million usara na ka project sa flood
45:29control so nga nung dikmanta mo invest aninga this is to improve upgrade our city
45:36service and it's about time because a lot of the major countries or country
45:41cities ba are already doing this yeah highly urbanized mga hambugta were the
45:45second to Metro Manila oi initially medyo mahal pero long term
45:51wala na ang kamay na siya gusto and then pero ang benefit nga ma dawat sa mga tao na ko mampu ka yun
45:57nag yun i-comment na ito diri koans na aunta mo ka nang kung about sa basura ma ma-appel yun yung basura sa in-cap di lang man ni siya traffic
46:06correct kaya non contact apprehension nakitaan kasi si tb nagbilin kang basura dito agoy ang sisit na'y bahala ni mo
46:14I think this in-cap is not just limited to traffic for now it's mostly traffic but then that can be integrated for our garbage good no
46:24kaya pwede man sila siya even if kanyang with contact gidak ko but na may support evidence nakitaan ka
46:30o o
46:31bisan pag ya bisan pag dak punta ka liha pero nakitaan ka ka nga na ikaw ang naglabay
46:35review na ito be
46:35oh god
46:36nagviolet ka no
46:38it's true it's true
46:41sige lang mambella si mambella yago nagtanaw na to
46:44sige mambella pero kanang usani siya actually si kinsa gito itong guest
46:48si mayor archival sa amung interview ni ingon siya usani ang kaning handling sa garbage
46:56especially nga ilang ipangugatan ang no segregation no collection so daku ka yun ni ugtabang kung madayo ning
47:03ma lift na ni sa sa supreme court ang TRO sa NCAP so napangipangunta na li
47:11sige ang koan ako actually is mo go back ko sa because si cons winston actually per the little stocking and
47:18research that I did
47:19the stalker
47:20oh
47:21kenang he also has in a colorful past no because in one of his interviews or the statements that
47:28he said he experienced kenang not having food no so so yes no and and you're also a self-made
47:38person that got you to where you are today so what are the what made those experiences kenang useful
47:46now that you are you have better influence nagid in the decisions that the city is making
47:52yeah um
47:54ato yung ganahan nga tungkol sa akong experience before
47:58na like na a few days nga wala djuke kaon djun matulog lang ko sa kilid sa kalsada
48:06eh was uh did uh
48:08dilip man ko takadiri djun sa cebu city dayo lang ko direct para maka opportunity maka
48:13siya
48:26mga
48:30naman
48:31So, I was like, when I was in Lisod, we were able to bring the opportunity to the government.
48:49I wanted to improve the lives of our people, to improve our services in our government.
48:58So, the scholarship is number one.
49:01The education is important for our lives.
49:05Talking of scholarship cons,
49:07when did the scholarship program open in the city?
49:11It was a problem with scholarships.
49:14It's important to know that it's not a good performance in many schools.
49:21But, even if they're not performing well,
49:26it's not a good opportunity.
49:29It could be,
49:31it could be,
49:32it could be,
49:34nutrition.
49:35Nutrition.
49:36Walay mo bantay sa egsuon.
49:38Can I be itong problema sa kakabus?
49:40Pinananing kamot?
49:41So,
49:43mura mag-unug ka nang,
49:44kung select,
49:45inanak ka selective ang scholarships to only those who are performing well scholastically.
49:51And yet,
49:52ato malimtan,
49:54mura bag ato nang,
49:55ato nang,
49:56ito nang,
49:57ito na sila nang gikoan nga.
49:58Aka mo,
49:59kay 75,
50:00raman mo,
50:01ato raman mo,
50:02tama sa peer,
50:03magtrabaho?
50:04So,
50:05nanay,
50:06discrimination ba?
50:07So, how can we make our scholarships nga,
50:09muanser,
50:10muhatag syang opportunities to everybody,
50:12I totally agree with you, Judd, because there are other grades in terms of the focus on your study, you can workman.
50:26So, I have to really review the ordinance or the implementation of our scholarship.
50:41The funny thing is that I was in the committee of the scholarship, but I didn't have a member of the local school board.
50:47So, I think in this ordinance, the member of the local school board, the committee of education, like others.
50:53Of all the committee, I missed the scholarship.
50:57So, I wondered if I read it and I didn't have a voice in the local school board.
51:03I didn't have a member of the local school board.
51:05Although I was in the scholarship, it was useless.
51:07So, what did the committee say?
51:10I don't know exactly.
51:12I don't know exactly.
51:14So, I think that's an opportunity for amendment.
51:16Yeah, amendment.
51:17So, that's what I'm thinking right now nga.
51:20I-revisit, no?
51:21Ang ordinance sa education o sa scholarship, para if there's a need to amend the existing ordinance
51:28atong pagkabuhatan kay.
51:30Na ako sa scholarship, pero wala ako kayo boy sa education.
51:32So, it's kind of useless.
51:34Connected.
51:35Connected.
51:36Connected.
51:37Connected.
51:38Ang scholarship sa education.
51:39Muna ako nakita nga ang select, more discriminating kayo ang paghatag sa scholarship ba nga.
51:44Ang sudyante, unless ka itong mga bugoy good yung makita ni mo.
51:49Pero even then, murang mga gulog.
51:51Ato nang high school pa lang sila.
51:53We already decided.
51:54Yeah, decided.
51:55Kinsay mo lang buo.
51:56Kinsay magpabilin.
51:57Diri.
51:58Ang opportunity, dili siya open to everybody who can, who will just like to avail.
52:03Nakasaya mga bugoy nga, maayo na ito pero kayo ang environment na nila mga bugoy po.
52:07Yes.
52:08So, nabugoy po sila.
52:09Pero, if takaan mo sa opportunity, mo-chance mo dyan ang tao dyan.
52:12Yes.
52:13Kana siya.
52:14I hope in, ana, ka-open ang, if, ana ba, kung dili mangani, I hope it can be amended.
52:20It's open to everybody who really is not, kanang, dili ka-afford ba?
52:25As long as they are determined.
52:27Yeah, determined.
52:28Determined.
52:29Kana, saan ka, promosory note nito nga, kanang, tiyan na, magpada yun, magtinarong yug ko kung,
52:37if I end up, nga wala ko nagtinarong scholarship.
52:40Student loan ba?
52:41Mura siyag inaana, bitaw ka nang...
52:43But it's just scholarship.
52:45Yeah, it's just scholarship.
52:46Mura siyag, if, muraig equity.
52:49Kung di ka mo tarong ugbayad 50%, muraig inaana,
52:52dili ni Mote Wason yung mong scholarship for, wala'y valid reason,
52:56you have to pay for the...
52:58Inaana, bitaw ka nang para, dili siya dole out.
53:00But it's something you need to protect and you have to sustain yun siya.
53:05I don't know.
53:06Yara, si Kunz nana, kaya si Kunz si Hel, dili ako.
53:09And then...
53:10And then...
53:11Oh, sige.
53:12Two months pa lang ako karoon sa council.
53:15Yeah, kasabot me.
53:16Pero nag...
53:17Nag-goori, nags-start ako pag-goori.
53:18Agoy.
53:19Nga, nga...
53:20Unsa ba kaya akong output sa ako ang term?
53:24Ika naman yun kung mo-perform,
53:26na ako ay mabuhat yun,
53:29sa ka na nga sulod sa akong termino.
53:31So, muna nga...
53:33Kamas-kamas yung maayaro nung ta na ako ay maduso,
53:37nga mapahimuslan sa ito ang mga katawahan.
53:40So...
53:41Sige lang, Kunz.
53:42Ang beyond the headlines,
53:43i-mong amplifier.
53:45Kaya nang kung naakay mga...
53:47Ang nga yung ipabat-bat dito.
53:50Yung naragay ni Kunz.
53:51Kaya meragay mo amplify,
53:53nga kinanglag-suporta sa mga kadagkuan sa City Hall.
53:57Nga, madiscuss na to ba nga?
53:59For example, katong...
54:01Ang NCAP nga nga nang...
54:02Naglibog na nga nang sila mo support.
54:05It's because, muna,
54:06ang mindset lagi sa tao is,
54:07if there's an opportunity to violate,
54:09they will violate kung ay nakakita.
54:11Diba?
54:12So, we really need to have...
54:14To make sure nga itong balaod,
54:16hait enough na tuman nun.
54:18Kaya mo na ito siya gi-draft.
54:19We did not pass it just for the sake of
54:21passing an ordinance.
54:22Diba?
54:23Na siya ay purpose.
54:24Kaya na po?
54:25To influence human behavior,
54:26there's carrot and there's stick.
54:28Believer gi ko anang carrot and stick.
54:30Hmm.
54:31Okay.
54:32So,
54:33Naka mga panapos lihang mga mensahe
54:35sa mga nagtanaw na to roon.
54:37Nag-uular ba ko sa pag-ingo niya ganina nga,
54:40ang...
54:42Things will change if you are really willing
54:44to implement something
54:46nga huwag kahadlok ka basig sa sunday eleksyon
54:49hindi ka kadaog.
54:50Diba?
54:51Totally.
54:52Ang akong number one goal
54:54is
54:55makabilin ko obligasiya.
54:57So,
54:58nga suma-mone akong priority.
55:00Dili ang
55:01ang kanang position.
55:02Yes.
55:03So,
55:04nga nga nindot ka ayo.
55:05And then,
55:06because of that,
55:07napildi ko sa next eleksyon.
55:08That's okay.
55:09At least naanam mo kay nabuhat.
55:10Versus nga,
55:11sige kong kadaog,
55:12for like,
55:13pila ka decades,
55:14but in wakasag ko nabuhat,
55:15useless nga kong life.
55:17Nagkatigwang ba yata?
55:18Yes.
55:19Hindi mga kaganahan nga,
55:20matigwang po sa ila sa
55:21mga politisyan.
55:22I have other people waiting for me,
55:23na ako yung family,
55:24na ako yung kids,
55:25na ako yung...
55:26They also need my presence,
55:27my time,
55:28pag-atiman po nila,
55:29mag-servisyo po nila.
55:30Dili lang sa atong city.
55:31So,
55:32as much as possible,
55:33ganahan ko nga,
55:34dagang kong mahimo
55:35sa mabubo nga panahon.
55:37So, I can get out of politics
55:38and serve my family also.
55:40My friends,
55:41nala sila na ako nga,
55:42others naman kaiwa,
55:43naman kai,
55:44jaming jaming na mo.
55:45So,
55:46I have,
55:47this is my priority now,
55:48our city is my priority now.
55:49So,
55:50if jaming jaming ko ninyo,
55:51makuhaan ko time
55:52para makahimo ko maayos sa atong city.
55:53So,
55:54I just,
55:55saptan lang dyan ko ninyo.
55:56Anyway,
55:57as long as na ako yung dako nating sa mabuhat,
55:59aling politics
56:01and
56:02jam jam na rin ta.
56:04That's refreshing to,
56:06ano ba no,
56:07na kanang
56:08ang intention is
56:11something,
56:12naka-contribute na ka ba?
56:14Kanang,
56:15as a citizen of Cebu City,
56:16naka-contribute na ka,
56:17yung,
56:18move on.
56:19Pare yan ni Mayor Vico Soto,
56:21nga way plano.
56:22Sa karoon.
56:23Sa karoon.
56:24Patakay ba?
56:25And,
56:26it's also refreshing
56:27to hear ka nang,
56:29that kind of perspective nga,
56:30a public servant nga,
56:32connected to the why.
56:34And,
56:35ang akong wish for you,
56:36cons,
56:37is you will stay with that why.
56:38No?
56:39Okay,
56:40it's like,
56:41we have to stay grounded.
56:42Correct.
56:43Because,
56:44correct,
56:45that will keep you grounded.
56:46Yes.
56:47You'll,
56:48keep me in check.
56:49Okay,
56:50we need feedback to our people,
56:52that's very important.
56:53Because,
56:54if you're not perfect,
56:55you'll be perfect.
56:56I'm trying to,
56:57at least,
56:58be perfect.
56:59But it's not a goal,
57:00if you're perfect,
57:01you'll be perfect,
57:02but,
57:03you'll be perfect.
57:04So,
57:06with that,
57:07DJ,
57:08that wraps up this edition,
57:09of Beyond the Headlines.
57:11We hope today's conversation,
57:13helps shed light,
57:14on the bigger picture,
57:15behind the story.
57:16And,
57:17we'd like to thank our guest,
57:18Cebu City Councilor,
57:19Winston Pepito,
57:20for joining us,
57:21and helping us connect the dots,
57:23in ways that matter.
57:25I'm Mildred Galarpe.
57:26And I'm DJ Moises.
57:28Thank you,
57:29and good afternoon.
57:30Good afternoon.
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